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>Three Mass Shootings in America during one weekend
>New York State
>Republicans will defend all of this… Somehow.

Out of curiosity, how many mass shootings have there been in all of Western Europe over the weekend? Or this month? Or for the entire year, for that matter? Any guesses?

It's time to ban the guns. I know. Radical concept.
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Take your meds chud


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>The freeing of uyghurs



stop being bitch and answer mr left guy


Not h! But it's a completely retarded question that doesn't even deserve an answer. What does it have to do with anything?


The association of socialism with left-liberalism has been a disaster for the human race.

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/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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<You have to go back.


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Think of all the stress being a nutcase like Alex Jones is out under


Wasn't Alex a bodybuilder at one time. Was it the roids that aged him?


I don't know if he was a body builder but he was fucking ripped when he was younger

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Lifestylism is a major problem in the American Left. It encourages purity spirals and alienates tentative supporters. Shitting and pissing because a leftist is economically successful feeds into the liberal argument that socialists are all just loser burnouts bitter at the world. Stop it.
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>That's the result of the internet
No, that's the result of the retreat from socialism, starting from the second half of the 20th century.
>What do you mean detach from leftism? do you mean remove themselves from all the id-pol, moralizing and such.
Yes, not for moral reasons, but because all the moralization and idpol is inherently non-political.
>Resurrecting the movements won't do shit
I specifically mentioned resurrecting the political core of these movements. The failure you repeatedly mentioned are only failures because they have yet to be redeemed, because the leaders of these movements chose to merely retreat rather than learn from their failures and start again.
>another million man march won't change anything
>your movement will be made up of just you and your bohemians, plus the very very small (a couple of people) you manage to recruit with shitty flyers or some outreach
This is specifically what I am addressing. What about any of this strikes you as political?


Communists have been trying to draw liberals in for decades and it has been a failure, liberals aren't going to switch over to the side of a small powerless ultra-minority, not even a small amount has. Liberals aren't going to give up control willingly and it'll take the collapse of the entire global capitalist economy to even give a small possibility of revolution, if the revolution comes liberals will be happily killing any pro-revolutionary's they see encroaching on their control.


The best example of a liberal who switched over to the side of a small powerless ultra-minority would be Karl Marx.


>No, that's the result of the retreat from socialism, starting from the second half of the 20th century.
They retreated because they failed over and over, the new generation of radical socialists tried to pick up where the last left off (often making the same mistakes) but they're still failed.
>I specifically mentioned resurrecting the political core of these movements. The failure you repeatedly mentioned are only failures because they have yet to be redeemed, because the leaders of these movements chose to merely retreat rather than learn from their failures and start again.
You would be resurrecting not a healthy body but a very rotten dead body. Even if it a new healthy mass movement gained traction it would quickly be another failure.
>This is specifically what I am addressing. What about any of this strikes you as political?
It is political so say that political movements against capitalism will always be failures.
Were talking about the revolution.


Your attitude is merely a more honest and explicit rendition of what every leftist today implicitly believes, and the source of their degeneration into pseudo-political moralizing and idpol.
Politics is a struggle for power. Socialism is the struggle for working class power. Contemporary leftists are not political, because they struggle for justice rather than power. Any movement that wishes to seize power must be political and vice-versa.
The organizing of workers into soviets was political. The Soviet Union would not have existed had the Bolsheviks merely chosen to encourage marching in the streets or writing pamphlets.
Of course they would have been unsuccessful if they refused to be political, and that's precisely what happened to the radical left once it became apparent that Soviet socialism was reaching its limits.

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Can I get a redpill on this fella? I don't know how to wade through the propaganda and get a clear picture of him. Was he just a pure fabricator? A useful idiot for Western imperial ambitions?


A reactionary who muddled truth with exaggeration and lies, he is not to be trusted. There is plenty of honest criticism of the USSR that you can find elsewhere.

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>Trump's Home has been raided by the Fed's and the Right is on suicide watch.
Where were you when Civil War II Electric Boogaloo was canceled?
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The republicans were already going that route Trump just unleashed it a decade before hand.


Unironically, it's because he's not racist enough. Also Mitt Romney is viewed as an orthodox elite, and that does him no favors in a political climate where people are generally dissatisfied with the establishment


Police: Man killed himself after ramming US Capitol barrier
>WASHINGTON (AP) — A man drove his car into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol early Sunday and then began firing gunshots in the air before fatally shooting himself, police said.


Didn't this happen under the Floyd riots too.

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Ukraine's Thread, for fuck's sake
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>more liberal screeching about fantasy scenarios
Russia is now undoubtedly winning the war, they have just liberated Udy, Vershyna and Pisky. Ukrainians are pinned down by artillery in trenches around Mykolaiv, praying for a Kherson counter-offensive that will never come.

This is the extent of the Ukrainian offensive by Kherson:
>This isn’t Afghanistan, it’s not Iraq … it’s sitting in a hole getting shelled. You could die at any moment. You could die without even firing a round'
Some more Canadian neo-nazi volounteers ran home with their tail between their legs after they realised that they don't have the tech or support they had while slaughtering Afghani sheep herders.

Russia has already won this war. Now we wait for Ukraine and its master NATO to realise it.


lol at that image. But I'm not a Russia shill.


answer these Nazi cuckboy: >>456124 >>456129 >>456132
you ignore the facts you can't meme to, and always get caught up on one thing.

How embarrassing will it be for you after Ukraine capitulates? You gonna come back into this thread and say you were wrong? Didn't think so.


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Putin’s fascists: the Russian state’s long history of cultivating homegrown neo-Nazis
>Many commentators have already debunked Russian President Vladimir Putin’s absurd claim to be waging war to “de-nazify” Ukraine.

>Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraine’s 2019 parliamentary elections, far less than in most of Europe. Others have drawn attention to Ukraine’s Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and the efforts of the Ukrainian state to protect minorities like Crimean Tatars and LGBTQ+ people, who are subject to brutal persecution in Russia.

>What has received less coverage is the Putin regime’s own record of collaboration with far-right extremists. Even as Russian diplomats condemned “fascists” in the Baltic states and Kremlin propagandists railed against imaginary “Ukronazis” in power in Kyiv, the Russian state was cultivating its own homegrown Nazis.



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Is this shit even worth talking about?
Some retard shot up an FBI feild office in Connecticut. Probably some maga retard who thinks he's fighting a revolution. What is the deal with these people?


Not worth talking about. You can go on endlessly about retards.


Post this in the Trump thread!


uygha I lov laughing at them though

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Was gonna make this thread on that other site but got smacked with an insane bullshit ban for hurting a janny's feelings, so let's see if we can get an interesting discussion here instead. Since the end of the Thirty Years' War and the Peace of Westphalia, Western warfare had been conducted through rules of engagement excluding the targeting of civilians. Sherman's March to the Sea was an early exception, and the Japanese civilian bombings in China in the early 1930s seemed to shock many Western powers at the time. However, it wasn't until World War II when the major powers threw this idea completely out the window and began targeting civilians in mass with the justification that long-range aerial bombardment can theoretically quickly bring a conflict to an end where previous conventional wars had been bogged down. Modern military power is such that most belligerents can reduce the others' cities to rubble or kill each others' populations indirectly through the targeting of infrastructure if they choose to.

Let's say the workers in a country have just won a revolution against their own capitalists and they now find themselves at war with other capitalist powers. Is there any room left for restraint among anti-capitalists when it comes to targeting noncombatants in the 21st century? Can or should anti-capitalists engage in "just" warfare when fighting for their existence?
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OP and this thread are stupid and lame.


Not as lame as your butt.


Suck it.


Anyone knowledgeable on the subject know if the Soviets bombed out cities during WWII, much like Britain, Germany, the US, and Japan?


They didn't have the capability to do so but Stalin probably would if he could, especially if it was in retaliation for German attacks.

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The FED just popped the biggest bubble in the history of man kind and we are about to experience one of the most dramatic down turns in history.

The question is what are YOU doing in order to take control of history and lead the prolotariate out of this endless market anarchy?

Look at this:

subprime loans are begging to default

This is the same kind of predetory borrowing that we saw in the 2008 financial crisis and these people, forced to choose between debt and good in the face of infaltion, obviously are choosing food.

Fanne Mae expects economic contraction in the housing market.


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I warned you bro, I told you dog


So the US had it's economy contract for two quarters in a row, by their own definitions they are in a recession. What does this mean for workers?

Also there are increasingly many protests in numerous countries, mostly european ones from what I've seen hints of. Completely not covered by the media. Should I be optimistic that western societies are approaching revolutionary conditions?


Corporations are sitting on trillions in cash. It's going to be a decade before we see this bubble pop.


>What does this mean for workers?
I think it's actually a good sign because the unemployment continues to slowly fall.
I think we're at an inflection point where the efficiency gains from IT, and illegal immigration are tapped out.
Businesses will continue to shrink but this will not be accompanied by an erosion of worker political power because there is no way to squeeze more value out of them.
I predict we'll see more desperate attempts at deploying half baked technology like self-driving trucks and trains that will go hairwire or be hacked, or genetic engineering products that give you cancer.


And I'll be sitting nice from my comfy factory job.

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Observers seem totally lost regarding the latest developments. They cannot put the pieces together and they jump from one place to another not knowing where to head or where to reach. Some observers are completely lost . One analyst today said that the US is unable to overcome Russia, and therefore it hopes to push Russia into China’s arms and after that it would be easy to deal with China because the US will deal with it the same way it dealt with the USSR, and will cause its collapse . This is close to delirium and is just to give you an idea about how people are looking at things . Certainly , the situation is complicated and what makes it more complicated is that no one is looking at facts or is giving a good reading of what is happening , and they are either linked to a certain agenda or starting from a wrong assumption . No one wants to understand the reality about the war on Ukraine and they want to see in it a righteous cause or a Russian self defense initiative while it is something totally different and is a conspiracy on Ukraine and on Russia and on the world security and stability , and will cause penury and food shortages. What we are witnessing is the next chapter after the Covid 19 conspiracy that has struck all societies and undermined them socially , financially and economically. But the tendency is to see in this a Russian cause at the time the NATO missiles were not even deployed and Ukraine is Not a NATO member and has difficulties joining the EU even . And this will lead to partitioning Ukraine and displacing the people and sanctioning Russia only to find new markets for the israeli gas in Europe . No one wants to investigate Putin’s past to find out who Putin is, for how to invest in someone who has starved his own people by stealing the money reaped from exchanging foods in return of minerals ? The media now is demonizing Putin – they say- but this not true because no one is casting a light on his past and this recent demonization is to remain for consumption and will never reveal who Putin is . As for the alignment USA+Gulf Countries+israel it was outshined by the spectacular Iran+Russia +Turkey alignment after Turkey has been promoting its relations with israel and the gulf countries and when Russia is still coordinating with israel the raids over Syria that have multiplied lately . And they say that this is a strategic alliance between the 3 and many are buying this, keeping in mind that withholding Turkey from annexing more SyriaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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The world powers are maneuvering and not sincere . China has become a tiger made of paper no one is taking seriously the Chinese military maneuvers while 3 unarmed drones overflying Karish have made israel stand on one foot and the world powers have mobilized


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It is a one world order that we have to deal with, or rather say disorder, and this order is set against the peoples themselves, any peoples, and has for purpose to submit peoples and defeat them. This is in short the conglomeration of world powers and their strategy . Their strategy is not against this or that state or this or that country, their strategy is against the people themselves and including their own people whom they subdue in various ways by confiscating their will and by manipulating them and granting them a fake freedom in which they have no say and through which they do the world powers bidding while thinking that they are acting freely .
Why we say this is because of the weapons that these countries are developing stealthily. and the kind of arms they keep in their arsenals which are weapons that target peoples and do harm to people, and all the world powers develop these weapons that cause great damage to peoples whether Europe or US or China or Russia, and they are all part of the world powers . Remember Hiroshima and Nagazaki . Who was targeted in these atomic bombs ? it is the people themselves and they are the ones who suffered and are still suffering . And beside the Japanese we have the Palestinians and the Vietnamese and the Iraqis and the Syrians and the Libyans and the Yemenis and the Lebanese and the Iranians and the Ukrainians and others, not to forget the Native Nations in the New world and the Irish people that were among the first victims . The kind of weapons these countries harbor explains the nature of the target which is none other than the people whom they seek to exterminate. .
Take a country like China- for example- that develops biological weapons and does biological researches that are funded by the USA after the USA has closed its biological labs at home due to the Anthrax threat and scandal , and has assigned China and other countries the continuation of the researches concerning biological weapons. This is how China resumed these researches in its labs in Wuhan from where Covid 19 originated, and we never learned how this pandemic spread , and we had to be satisfied with the bat and rat version, and all the scientists who raised specific questions were silenced . All this while the biological labs in Ukraine are being denounced nowadays by Russia after decades of complacency, and no one speaks about the Wuhan biological researches funded by US to develop biological weapons . This shows that China is a reaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Who defends the people are the Resistances in Lebanon, in Palestine, in Iraq and in Yemen, and they have acquired the right weapons and have taken to arms pressured by the situation and the immanent threat on their very existence . Their war is a defensive war and their weapons are defensive weapons .


israel's issue nowadays is the fuel issue >>455681 >>455676 and the extraction of the natural gas from Karish and the Lebanese Resistance threats that there is no fuel for anyone unless Lebanon starts extracting. And israel has its hands tied . Neither could it answer the Resistance conditions nor could it ignore them . One way out of this dilemma is to open a new front which israel did by declaring war on the closest faction to Iran and the Resistance which is al Jihad al Islami . A Palestinian failure here would have been in favor of israel . But al Jihad held the ground and the israelis failed .


The world powers produce harmful weapons and then sell them to indigenous countries. Iran is the only strong country that does not sell arms.

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