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 No.456027[Reply]

Free Brittney Griner!
>The basketball star is an innocent victim of the reactionary conflict between US imperialism and the Putin regime in Moscow.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/08/06/mbjj-a06.html

The USSR and the USA used to trade captured spies, which each considered an asset. The haggling was done quietly and behind closed doors. Now, the US and Russia - and others - frame and use just about anyone as a bargaining chip for geopolitics.

In this case, obviously politics is overriding justice. Ms. Griner's medical records and doctor's prescription are evidence of medical necessity. She was not using hard drugs for recreation or entertainment. She should have never been arrested or imprisoned. Putin's regime is opportunistic as are others.

In a capitalist dominated world, everyone is treated as a commodity and disposable (at minimum expandable). Worse, even entire countries are being used as proxies, such as Ukraine and Taiwan, not just ordinary citizens. Millions of human beings suffer as a result of geopolitics.
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 No.456033

>>456029
>She isn't even hot.

Absolutely kek
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 No.456035

>>456029
>>456029
I don't think you can classify basket ball palywrs for the NBA bourgeois. Labor aristocrat but not bourgeoisie.
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 No.456036

>>456028
Do you have any principles, anon?
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 No.456043

>Free Brittney Griner
lol is this a shitpost?
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 No.456046

That's a dude…


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 No.456023[Reply]

Was the internet good or bad for radical leftists and pro-revolutionarys? Before the internet you were say either in or out of the local groups, you disagreed with a few things, and you're kicked out, burn the heretic. This either led to people making their own group, conforming, or just abandoning theory all together, to become one of those people who called it just a "phase" now they happily vote liberal. The internet allowed these disgruntled and say vagabond, despised people to spread their books and pamphlets, now everybody interested could read what they had to say and those not possessed by the local mantra could become a follower. Everything said on here, the internet is nothing, it has no value whatsoever, irl groups had more power of course around town, but they're still as powerless as groups on the internet are.
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 No.456024

That's to say it increased our ranks a lot, but it didn't make us any more powerful, many more people may have knowledge of theory, but we have no force and force is power. The internet increased the power of the global capitalist system many times over than it did for those against it, for example a person may have an inkling towards radicalism. But when they get home from work they have their own niche, why read any theory when they can get many time more gratification from interaction with the same people who enjoy the same entertainment they day. Not to say that normal people were more inclined to read theory before the internet, no, today access to theory is a click away, millions more people can read it a thousand times easier. But they won't still, as always of course, we are small and few.
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 No.456025

>>456024
Well I guess those "niche" clubs still existed like the cult of Ringo, but pre-internet niche groups are puny and pathetic to the size and scope of the internet.
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 No.456026

>>456023
>Was the internet good or bad ?
Are people still using the internet, when they log on to corporate platforms like facebook ?
The main feature of the internet was that it made a million different systems talk to each other, but once you log on to a corporate platform that's no longer the case. Facebook and other platforms like it are closed networks, you can only visit with their system (official website or phone-app) and only their back-end servers are allowed. That's no longer like the internet.

You can of course say that it's still using the tcp/ip protocol but so is your local-lan network and that's not part of the internet either.

So I'm going to say that the internet was good, and that we should go back to it.

You also need realistic expectations, it's just an information exchange system, it's not going to create a better world for us.

There are however a few things about the internet that we fucked up, that is not the fault of corporate platforms locking users into closed systems adjacent to the internet. Even in the web 1.0 days when social media was basic forums. It was possible to click on their account name and read every post they ever made. You don't have that in meatspace when you meat a person, you can't easily find out everything they ever said. Why did we build this shortcut for stalkers and which-hunting-mobs into the web ? We should never have build this on account systems with names that correspond to virtual personas (The intuition that people evolved is for meat-space limitations). We should instead have treated it like a big wall full of drawers and give people 2 sets of keys, the first one allows you to open a drawer and read the letters inside, and the second key allows your to write a message and add it to the drawer. And your browser stores the keys (with usb-stick backup functionality)
If you wanted to sign your message with your name you could still do that.

Another mistake is that links are one-way-valves. You can use a link to go from website A to Website B, but when you are on Website B you can not go to Website A unless there is a second link that links the other way. You have a back-button in your browser but that doesn't help if you start out on website B. Search engines have something like back-link catalogues, some of these seaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.456004[Reply]

Leftypol is a shithole and so are 95 % of the users. Perfect example imo, is this, and the Israel vs Palestine shit, even though that is a bit different. I don't give a damn about this conflict or any conflict, or supporting the people of Ukraine, my first and foremost goal is the revolution, the destruction of capitalism. Also from what I've read there and in the Ukraine thread, their proposed anti-imperialism is just whining about US imperialism, while supporting Russia and China (both capitalist states), this is in fact entirely pro-capitalist.
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 No.456017

>>456013
>>456016
The anti-war and peace movement failed. Despite the millions marching war and capital go on and on, unchanged. If anything the peace movement helped capitalism be more versatile, thousands are able to live happily in the capitalist world, a lifestyle of non-radical anti-war time-wasters, they blame the social institutions not the capitalists. I'm sick of them and I'm sick of the discussion on the Ukraine or Taiwan, I'm sick of capitalism, I spit on the reformers or moderates, I am more for communism than ever.
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 No.456018

>>456017
The real roots of the anti-war movment were founded in early 2000's and 90's anti-capitalism though .I understand that shit like that will usually get co-opt'd by capitalism, but, that still doesn't mean that it's alright to support wars where workers kill workers in the name of captialist governments. That's insane.
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 No.456020

>>456018
>but, that still doesn't mean that it's alright to support wars where workers kill workers in the name of captialist governments. That's insane.
Are you fucking retarded or trolling? what part about hating capitalism and being more for communism than ever confused your snail sized brain.
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 No.456021

>>456020
That doesn't necessarily mean you are against war, dumb ass. You are projecting.
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 No.456022

>>456021
I already said I was indifferent to it you shithead. You put words in my mouth saying I was supporting wars where workers got killed. Go ahead and kill yourself and don't reply, you and everything you say are shit.


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 No.455509[Reply]

You are all mentally deranged, cultists who will not succeed in your attempt to subvert healthy societies to international socialism, there is nothing good here. Your administration support a virtue signalling cult where dissent is not allowed, you do not have free thought. A society which operates under your principles and rule will inevitable collapse. There is no hope in leftist or any other politics which attempts to subvert the raw, tribal society.
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 No.456010

>>456007
Good quote.
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 No.456011

>>456002
Yeah so what? What does that have to do with the working people rising up and freeing themselves from.their chains?
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 No.456012

>>456011
I should have added more, yes. Lenin is often quoted or looked up to by pro-revolutionarys, the situation was entirely out of his hand, the German empire used him as a tool to weaken Tsarist Russia. Had the Germans not employed Lenin, he would have just been another anti-tsarist pro-revolutionary in permanent exile. The destruction of capitalism, the revolution, was most probable or maybe possible in the aftermath of WW1, a situation entirely out of the hands of the working class.
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 No.456014

>>456012
Not really, capitalism, though its own internal contradictions usually brings about a crisis in one way or the other. You are thinking in terms of nations and borders but the global industrial proletarian are the only ones who can truly organize and achieve a world free from the exploitative labor of capital. There were plenty more things kicking off at the time around the world including in the united states outside of russia. The real major issue with the modern era is taht industrial labor is all but killed and now they are trying to kill it more by raming through the USCMA trade agreement which is basically the TTP 2.0. But, no, you are wrong or you don't really seem to understand; Of course history is out of lenins hands. It's out of everyones hands. We do not MAKE history it is only up to us as a class of people to grab hold of it and take control of it for ourselves.
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 No.456019

>>456014
>Not really, capitalism, though its own internal contradictions usually brings about a crisis in one way or the other
WW1 was the biggest crisis of the global capitalist system.
>You are thinking in terms of nations and borders but the global industrial proletarian are the only ones who can truly organize and achieve a world free from the exploitative labor of capital
They can't and wont organize unless a major crisis in the capitalist system forces them to in their own self-intrest, the proletariat aren't noble knights, they're selfish and look out for their best interest, and who's to say they actually progress but not go backwards anyway?
>There were plenty more things kicking off at the time around the world including in the united states outside of russia
That's why I mentioned WW1 and not just Lenin.
>The real major issue with the modern era is that industrial labor is all but killed and now they are trying to kill it more by raming through the USCMA trade agreement which is basically the TTP 2.0
Industrial labor is all but killed in the west, imperial core, it still exists in southern asia and what Brazil? That problem is kinda our fault, western corporations weren't willing to pay industrial workers higher wages, the capitalists all went to look for cheap labour.
>But, no, you are wrong or you don't really seem to understand; Of course history is out of lenins hands. It's out of everyones hands. We do not MAKE history it is only up to us as a class of people to grab hold of it and take control of it for ourselves.
Our class isn't untied at all, and it won't ever be, the ultimate proof of this is that we all essentially agree on the same things, but the radical left has always been infighting, there is no consciousness, in the same way all the various religious sects in the world are the final disproof for the universal message of The Word of God.


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 No.455536[Reply]

socialism is giving resources to wrong people, and not giving them to good people

i hate socialism –karl marx
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 No.455546

>>455543
>i would give resources to good people
how do you get the resources in the first place ?
maybe by exploiting a bunch of people ?

The ideological premise at play here is that you assume that people will always just get exploited and the only question is who gets the loot. But we don't have to base societies on exploitation. That is optional.
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 No.455569

What is the idiot OP trying to even say?
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 No.455972

>>455569
Just reducing marxism to moralfaggotry
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 No.455993

>>455536
Das rite!
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 No.455995

>>455993
Unironically this


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 No.436630[Reply]

Tanks in Brasilia edition

Last one got full

Bolsonaro calls a review of troops to intimidate congress in the day of the printed ballots amendments is to be voted
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 No.445974

>>445930
>Pode ser, apesar o pessoal do .org serem os esquerdistas anglos mais idiotas que conheci na minha vida. Só venho pelo BR mesmo.
Fora as pequenas comunidades que cercam os acadêmicos e pensadores que usam a internet, /leftypol/ é a melhor comunidade esquerdista anglo que conheço. Ganha de longe de qualquer outra comunidade "informal".

>>445079
Daqui a pouco eles resolvem isso.

>>445084
He has made literally everything worse. As a matter of fact, ever since Car Wash started, literally everythingonly kept getting worse, save for violent crime which started going down considerably in 2017. Then Bozo reversed that single good trend with his cretinous gun laws aimed at arming fucking crime syndicates.

>>445949
Olha, Talibã é uma das pouquíssimas entidades que talvez sejam preferíveis a intervenção dos EUA. Talvez.
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 No.446008

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>>445974
>Ganha de longe de qualquer outra comunidade "informal".
Se verdade, triste. Esquerda online é bem desanimadora mesmo, doido pra essa merda acabar pra discutir política em protesto e boteco.

>>445949
Lembrando também que o talibã combateu a prática nojenta do Bacha bazi.
Mas liberais não se preocupam nem com as crianças do próprio país, quanto mais do Afeganistão.
PCO baseado pra caralho.
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 No.446729

>>445974
>Olha, Talibã é uma das pouquíssimas entidades que talvez sejam preferíveis a intervenção dos EUA. Talvez.
Ops, quis dizer que intervenção dos EUA seria preferível a eles.

>>446008
É possível dizer que o Talibã é melhor que a porcaria que os gringos colocaram no poder?
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 No.455911

>Like a certain ML party because they actively shun the marcusean garbage that contradicts the dialectical materialism as a party policy
>mayoral elections coming up
>their lineup is centered around a white guy who calls himself black, a native man(the chillest guy), a trans woman and a feminist collective candidacy
Why are left wings parties like this?
How come the trotskist garbage like PCO and PSTU look more normal than actual hardline ML parties?
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 No.455966

>>455911
>Why are left wings parties like this?
Because left wing parties are retarded and accomplish nothing, if the destruction of capitalism is your aim at least. A union would help end global capitalism, higher wages especially in the assembly line of capitalism like China and other cheap labor assembly's in the third world. Reformists can bite me.


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 No.455932[Reply]

BEES are the only* (dunno for sure) purely matriarhal communist society in the animal kingdom.

A deep analisys of how they interact with eachoter, how to act, what they believe, what they decide and what they like is the same between all types of bees, be them male or female

All the types of bees:
Male worker bees
Female worker bees
Qween (worker) bee


The Male worker bees are the Male counterpart of the Female worker bees, but the differences between the Males and the Females are:
-Males are fully sexually developed (they can reproduce and shiet)
-Males are bigger and stronger = get more resources = consume more
-Males have a different way of flying (they "levitate" above the ground, keeping an altmost perfect height above it, like in those superconductor videos; when they land, it's like a crash landing, or like a monkey when he jumps from tree to tree but he's about to fall because he's very close to not getting a good grip), which still bamboozeles scientists (Area51 already figured it out, that's from eye witnesses seeing different aircraft behaving like superconductors)
That's about the differences between Male and Female worker bees
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 No.455934

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Fun fact: Honeybees and some other vespids and ants practice actual democracy in nesting decision-making compared to modern republican oligarchies.


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 No.454382[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

> You won't reach herd immunity with pfizer
My country is over 85% vaccinated and there's still a push to get more people vacced, still restrictions, still mandates.

> Omicron is a ticket out of the pandemic

It's not deadly and getting will give you immunity to the virus. There's no reason to be worried about it.

> Pfizer doesn't reduce your chances of death


> There's no reason for young people to get the shot

Little kids don't go to the hospital for covid, that's not a thing. So why
are they being pushed to get the vaccine? Or even forced to wear masks in
schools for that matter?

> The pcr tests over-report deaths

Apparently there's no such thing as asymptomatic covid carriers.
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 No.455860

>>455851
So other than the fact that this is a very obviously bias news outlet what makes you think the vaccine will have negative side effects? Furthermore why do you think that the benefits of vaccinating people when millions and millions of people have died globally because of COVID is not worth the risk of some side effects? What makes you think the side effects will be bad?

Guarantee that nothing substantial will come.over thos and this is just more conspiracy moon land is fake fear mongering.
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 No.455918

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>>455847
>>455860
>the vaccine keeps people dying

It might keep people from dying from covid, but with medicine you must be able to show that the following statement is true:

<you live longer after doing this treatment


So if you survive covid but die earlier from other side-effects the risk-benefit analysis changes. I believe they made this a standard when a cancer treatment was tested that killed the cancer but also the patient.

I don't think they have adequately shown this.

For one thing it highly depends on your age group, and also the benefit vs risk analysis changes with each mutation of the virus.

If you have the CDC pushing kids to get boosters that literally makes no sense to me since children rarely have serious issues from covid.
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 No.455921

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>>455860
>what makes you think the vaccine will have negative side effects?

Well this is just an unarguable fact, here's a safety report from germany that lists the variety of side effects that have happened. I mean it's up to you to asses the risk of course but there is a risk.
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 No.455931

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>>455918
>>455918
Yeah but the ones is on you to prove the vaccines have negative side effects which you can't. You can only complain about not liking the time from the government released it on and you're getting your wish anyways and as I said the data will 100% show there are no sever long-term adverse side effects. You have nothing but hot air. vaccine denialism has always been nonsense all the way up to the quack nutcase who started all this discordance. What an absolute joke.
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 No.455933

>>455931
Did you see this?
>>455921

Now you might say I accept these chances of getting these side effects if the benefit is not dying of covid. But are you old and diabetic?

Instead of getting a booster I will take my chances with the latest variants. That's my bottom line. And pushing it onto kids is just wrong. And we will have to wait and see but I bet these vaccines are responsible for at least some of the rise in non-covid excess deaths. That's not denialism that's common sense and pragmatism.


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 No.455835[Reply]

The PLA will conduct military drills in these regions around Taiwan in August 4-7

They're calling it a special "military exercising and training operation"
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 No.455842

Unless WW3 is happening there shouldn't be a thread on this.
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 No.455844

>>455840
>>455840
This conflict would be nuclear you realize it hay correct?
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 No.455845

>>455844
There will never be a nuclear because that would kill the booj.
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 No.455852

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Gerontocracy
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 No.455861

>>455852
I would literally have a parade if this women died.


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 No.455410[Reply]

That's quite a normie subject, but it only makes it more concerning
So, stranger things season 4 just dropped and something caught my attention:
>Kate Bush - Running up that hill is the season main song
>This very same song was used for several of the esoteric fascist meme of "hyperborean edits"

https://youtu.be/sXPZtwByhyU
https://youtu.be/HiNcB8c5EvU
https://youtu.be/vqO4Q5tqBDM
https://youtu.be/04EmaakUj6M

Considering the very premises the show runs into, such as MK ultra like experiments, parallel words within our own (such as the hyperborean mith itself), all indicates that Hollywood is actively working to constitute this esoteric fascist mythos, and bringing it to the mainstream
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 No.455420

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 No.455432

>>455414
>The boys also has the idea of child experiments bringing superpowers.
It's science-magic because these superpowers use too much energy, even if they had an organ that could make the energy, they would cook them self from all the heat that would release.

In The Boys show they basically are saying that super-powers have fascist origins, but they are also comparing the superhumans to the gods of antiquity. Maybe the makers of that show want to point out the similar themes in these ideas.

I don't know about the implications. Eugenics was invented by pseuds to justify class society, they weren't competent scientists, so that part of the show is a bit iffy. But they also do link corporations to the Nazi past, and that part is correct, the corporate sector was heavily involved in fascism, and i wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't retained or reinvented fascist ideology.
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 No.455444

The connection is that both are obsessed with nostalgia. The trauma of the 80s potentially promised by the ideological outlook of the time. There was a lot of innovation happening after microchips and it led to the birth of the late 70s early 80s futurism. Blade Runner, Star Wars, Robocop. The way people talk about how we got all the boring parts of the cyberpunk future dystopia with none of the flying cars. Growth stagnated and living standards dropped.

It's all an attempt to form a cohesive narrative between where society seemed to be going, to where it ended up now. To keep repeating the past until it's properly symbolized.
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 No.455508

>>455444
>It's all an attempt to form a cohesive narrative between where society seemed to be going, to where it ended up now. To keep repeating the past until it's properly symbolized.
Can you explain what that means repeating until it's symbolized ?
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 No.455698

Didn't the same shit happen with Taylor Swift previously? Maybe I don't get it but it seems like fascists have an odd relationship with unremarkable female pop stars in general.


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