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 No.454351[Reply]

Hello Anons,

Let's get together and watch a nice Prolekult release today and also we can watch other stuff afterwards if you like until y'all get bored.

IIt's been a while since we had a nice big get together so let's have some fun.

We will begin the video at 2:30am GMT, 9:30pm EST, 6:30pm PST.

Feel free to come in early and watch things until video time and afterwards.

https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
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 No.454352

>>454351
Gonna start in two minutes
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 No.454355

Test
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 No.454356

Missed it…


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 No.430895[Reply]

Should we intentionally spread COVID and ignore public health guidelines to increase the collapse of capitalism. After all increasing spread would cause more lockdowns which would harm porky, making sure their is a lot of COVID cases would require the continuation of the eviction moratorium which is harming landlords.
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 No.439695

>>430907
All revolutionary acts will kill workers. Its a class WAR for a reason
Not taking any action kills many more workers, as their exploitation is continually reproduced
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 No.441606

>>430895
You are legitimately a fucking psychopath and belong in a gulag.
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 No.454310

redpill yourselves at once, muh "covid"
>they are killing people at hospitals
>then they count the death as if from cov
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 No.454337

>>440934
based, if you see a richfag, take your mask off and just start coofing, coof, coof, coof
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 No.454353

I tried. I really tried. But I wasted my time, it doesn't work. It turned out viruses aren't even real. lol


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 No.443868[Reply]

They are filled with conspiracy theories all over the net.

Interesting thing is how often they've been banned. China banned them, Franco spain banned them, Iran banned them, Nazis banned them, USSR banned them, papal banned them, Cuba banned them, hungary banned them. Goes on and on

What do you make of them?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry
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 No.444062

>>444044
obssesed
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 No.444251

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>>443875
Yeah. The Freemasons emerged from medieval guilds in the Western world where apprenticeship is very important. Young people would choose a "master" in a particular field, and professionals would group up in guilds to protect themselves, like for carpenters and… masons. That was the basis for what became these secret societies of bourgeoisie in England in the 1700s. When it came to America, it was a secret society for bankers, judges, wealthy businessmen, and politicians.

>>443868
>They are filled with conspiracy theories all over the net.
Yes. I think ultra-conservatives dislike the Freemasons because they see them as spinning powerful webs to spark revolutions.

Today, I suppose the Freemasons are pretty old-fashioned now. It's like old men who want to get away from their wives, while the upper bourgeoisie today have the World Economic Forum and so forth. The right-wing conspiracy theories don't really talk about the "New World Order" either anymore but the "Great Reset." And this is viewed in highly Manichean terms, like an "evil" plot to enslave the world. But the people at the top of the capitalist world don't see themselves as evil. They think they're doing good for the world, or doing things that will benefit everyone, whether that's the reality or not.

But I'd almost say the Freemasons in the 1700s-1800s were like the Protestant bourgeoise's alternative to the Catholic Church's upper crust of priests and cardinals. And they were at odds with each other, because the Freemasons discouraged Catholics from joining, and the Catholic Church issued injunctions against the Freemasons. There are ultra-conservative Catholics who also feared a Masonic-Judaic alliance. Jewish bankers and merchants worked with the Anglo capitalists who were part of the Freemasons and so forth. I imagine that's why Franco banned the Freemasons. He was an ultra-conservative Catholic leader. The Nazis of course banned Freemasonry as they were reactionary ultra-nationalists.

>China banned them

They kicked them out of the mainland. The Chinese freemasons were tied up with the British and the KMT and are apparently still allowed today to exist in Hong Kong. And they havPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.454313

It's all façade and you still look too misinformed about them. Nobody here relates them with "the protocols of zion's elders" and this speaks alarming
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 No.454335

Do they even still exist?
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 No.454340

>>443868
Haven't been politically relevant since the 19th century.


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 No.453179[Reply]

is so cringe. I can't understand how anyone takes them seriously. I went to a fascist political discussion subreddit called /r/discuss_government and it had some of the dumbest fucking posts i've ever seen being taken seriously. Browsing places like /r/monarchism and other right wing subreddits makes me think its almost trolling. I dunno.
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 No.453398

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>>453394
The democratic republic of Korea is the way it is because of US foreign policy of overthrowing governments they don't like. North Korea also has a success story to tell, their citizens are not subjected to war. Their are many countries in the world right now that are not able to protect their citizens like that.

The idea that we can't have communism until everybody agrees is stupid, do you really think all those capitalist billionaires would ever give up their privilege to plunder the world and exploit its people, willingly ? Capitalism is torturing billions of workers with exploitation, every year 10s of millions of people are murdered with systemic violence, hundreds of thousands to millions more are destroyed with physical violence. Once all those people had enough of the despair, the suffering, the political disenfranchisement, the pointless toiling for the rich, the pointless dying… and they establish a system that works for the masses, it will be justice. And you don't get to judge the means by which this is achieved, unless you can do better and lead by example. Because the system as it is now sure as hell is not based on voluntarism.

You would be telling the people being slaughtered by fascism in WW2, that if they defend them self it's not justice unless all the Nazis agree with it.

Most communists and socialists have as personal characteristic, a strong sense of moral principle, and you are a liberal trying to use that against us.
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 No.453457

>>453387
"the left" doesn't

The Left™ in America® sure makes it seem that way though. You have to understand that the average normlord doesn't read theory, let alone about half the people who claim to be "into politics". People like us are an extreme minority in my local town (maybe 1-3% of the population)
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 No.453459

>>453179
do you think you really better than them?
what are you doing against what the rulng class is doing right now before your eyes?
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 No.453479

>>453179
>Browsing places like /r/monarchism
Why are you using your tiem like this if itbupsetd you so?
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 No.454338

>>453179
Neo-fascism is more of a spiritual/religious movement then an ideology, because they hate radlibs so much they just become their inversion. The culture war is a religious struggle, not an ideological one.


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 No.395252[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why is eugenics bad? I have a relatively minor genetic disease I inherited from my father and it sucks. I saw my dad suffering it as i grew up, getting dizzy and having to lie down. I didn't have it at first but now that im older i ended up getting the same shit, i feel dizzy all the time and tired as fuck.

Yes I know eugenics has a bad rep due to nazism and scientific racism. And there's arguably capitalist eugenics as well, preserving the life and health of the rich at the expense of the working class. But if there was a rational social order, eugenics based on actual science and genetics rather than race or class, why would it be bad?

Why would a person who has a chance to pass on genetic disorders, or a serious transmissible disease (eg. HIV) do that? You're condemning an innocent child to a life of suffering.

Is it really wrong to say its a bad idea for people not to pass this on? I only have a minor condition I can only imagine what its like for people with severe conditions
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 No.454315

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Small peebles do acumulate in the shoes of the walkers age after age, stage after stage. It's not climbing mountains what wears you out, but the peeble in your shoe.

>I am quite happy that you started to redpill yourself without falling into certain tendencies.

>Have a look at what Metapedia says about it, so you may end up deciding.
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 No.454316

>>420795

That's like nothing. Look deeper
>embed
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 No.454322

>>420807
>Negative eugenics involves preventing reproduction of those with dysgenic traits
>Negative eugenics, if handled with tact and concern, could be beneficial and ethical. Those with genetic defects could be incentivized by the state somehow not to reproduce, or, supposing they are not retards because of their genes, can make the ethical decision not to reproduce themselves.
If you scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.
I would consider "believing in eugenics" as a dysgenic trait, so please don't be a retard and make the ethical decision not to reproduce your self.
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 No.454326

>>444591
? aren't you mexican? you're saying you wouldn't want to put a baby in her >>444122 ?
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 No.454334

>>454315
>Masons against Natives.jpg
Idealism the picture
They didn't live happily, they got slaughtered by colonial powers. They needed technology to make better weapons to defend them self.
What the fuck do you have against roads, schools and hospitals ? That's the first thing every socialist government builds more off.


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 No.424267[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why do incels gravitate towards fascism instead of communism? Wouldn't they rather live in a society where they are treated equally/equitably rather than one where they would be treated as genetic waste?
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 No.454327

>>424267
>Why do incels gravitate towards fascism
They don't though.
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 No.454328

>>424476
This, most self proclaimed communists online are of the dirtbag left which are libs. They take a particular ire to incels because their existenence undermines both patriarchy theory and liberalism.
Incels show that not only are there men who are more marginalized than women, but that it's due to three reactionary politics of women. Incels show that women hold power over men in certain spheres of influence, and if that's true in relationships, where else is it true?
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 No.454329

>>433268
It's hilarious how riled up women get about men they claim they don't want finding an outlet for their sexuality that's not orbiting them.
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 No.454330

>>424316
>To elaborate look at "looking", misc on bodybuilding.com, pua forums and videos. These are all focused on how to get in better shape, discussions on how to pickup women, how to improve financial state and earn more.
This is 100% true and it's because the Western left has decided to collaborate with lib feminists that veiw the sexuality of low status men as inherently predetory. So frank converstaions about picking up women are seem as reactionary.
At best you'll get patronizing advice like "be nice" when anyone that's asked a girl in the last 15 years knows is wrong. At worst you'll be relentlessly gaslighted into believing you're a monster that women can sense.
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 No.454331

>>454330
*that's asked a girl out


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 No.399571[Reply]

These books will change your life. Read them.

<1. Capital, Vol. I | Karl Marx

The classpill. Discover the extent to how the bourgeosie exploit you. NOTE: I wouldn't recommend reading it in its entirety as Marx was a shit writer and Capital is completely disorganized. Perhaps pick up the David Harvey companion book and jump around with Capital as if it was a textbook. Also, don't bother with Vols. II and III, those are just for the autists.

<2. The Unique and Its Property | Marx Stirner

The egopill. Eliminate your spooks, be your Unique. Or, in layman's terms, be gay and do crime.

<3. The Society of the Spectacle | Guy Debord

The situationistpill. The book examines the “Spectacle,” Debord’s term for the everyday manifestation of capitalist-driven phenomena; advertising, television, film, and celebrity. Everything about capitalist society starts to make much more sense after reading this.

<4. Capitalist Realism | Mark Fischer

The doomerpill. Or, as I like to call it, the realistpill. From wikipedia because I got lazy:

"According to Fisher, capitalist realism has so captured public thought that the idea of anti-capitalism no longer acts as the antithesis to capitalism. Instead, it is deployed as a means for reinforcing capitalism. This is done through media which aims to provide a safe means of consuming anti-capitalist ideas without actually challenging the system. The lack of coherent alternatives, as presented through the lens of capitalist realism, leads many anti-capitalist movements to cease targeting the end of capitalism, but instead to mitigate its worst effects, often through individual consumption-based activities such as Product Red.[3]"
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 No.427336

>>399571
>ctrl+f
>no tiqqun
shiggydiggy lads. Bloom Theory is essential reading despite being largely rehashed points from Revolution of Everyday Life.
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 No.427338

>>427333
21 and up to be a communist!
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 No.431497

>>426990
Add John Smith to the list of modern Marxists who give insight into why Marxism is a vital tool for demystifying the modern global political economy.
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 No.447269

bump
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 No.454317

>>399571
I did know how the bourgeoisie does. But didn't turn me into a communist. Since…
<"The moon is a harsh mistress" by Robert Heinlein


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 No.444362[Reply]

Like many others, I was very impressed by the Islamic victory of the Taliban retaking Afghanistan from Ameri-zionist mutts. It made me consider studying Islam, and converting if it seemed to be speaking the truth more than ameri-zionist do. But anons on /leftypol/ have shown me evidence that there might be atrocities in Islam, like pedophilia is CONDONED by scriptures. How can a religion that advocates pedophilia be the true word of God?

I need help to figure this out before pledging my immortal soul to a possible demon-inspired movement – is Islam God's truth or a sick lie?
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 No.444434

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>>444362
For Germany, the criticism of religion has been essentially completed, and the criticism of religion is the prerequisite of all criticism.

The profane existence of error is compromised as soon as its heavenly oratio pro aris et focis [“speech for the altars and hearths,” i.e., for God and country] has been refuted. Man, who has found only the reflection of himself in the fantastic reality of heaven, where he sought a superman, will no longer feel disposed to find the mere appearance of himself, the non-man [Unmensch], where he seeks and must seek his true reality.

The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

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 No.444443

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>>444421
Stfu I dont browse 4chan because I have a life outside of social media. You have the sexual impulsivity required to regularly jack your dick off to women with horrifically large eyes and voices that sound like fucking children as furrified Versions of themselves and on top of that you show blatant support for a religion known for the legalization of child marriage, rape and rewards inbreeding and with all this it's pretty easy to guess that if any woman regardless of how fat or ugly walked up to you and said they wanted to smash youd gleefully go ahead with them abandoning any of your muslim morals. I'm far far less reactionary than you faggot
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 No.444470

>>444443
>One digit off.

<4chan is social media


Actually true lol
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 No.444482

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>>444443
strange how you would have that whole reply for someone who tells you to go back to 4chan.
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 No.454314

Only God knows how many truths and lies are now plaguing religions after so many years, so many wars and unknown forgotten knowledge followed by innovations.

>In Kali Yuga, the hypocrisy of puritan moralists will prevail.

>Read about Kali Yuga, pls


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 No.451514[Reply]

I don't know how to say but fuck, fascists are too fragile about everything. Because of that, i'm in fucking danger
You know that at twitter, if you had post your pictures at there and if you are political; there is %100 chance that someone will post them as about you. It's something that fascists always do, they take pictures about leftist and share them.
Now, there is turkish-fascist girl. She is Turkicist, Islamist and so on; everything that sewer basically. She had captioned an vegan-food photo and said there avarage dinner at Dıyarbakır Prison 41 years ago. Referencing to the neo-fascist coup at 1980, where many of leftists, dissidents and some apoltical Kurds send to the prisons and they had tortured hard. Including rape and forcing them to eat their shit, which she had make fun of. Ofc, it created an problem at Turkish political-twitter.
Other thing is, while she is fascist, her photos were degenerate for far-right standarts. She had tumblrite red-hair and modern artistic-photos and while she is islamist, her apparaence is forbidden. And i posted them at bottom of tweets about her. I didn't attack her, or said oh, she is hot or anything like that. I just had showed the irony of her, she is degenerate but a fascist?? Then she triggered and attacked to me as How dare you share mine photos!! i will sue you.
WTF?! Other irony is, her acoount is also full of hate-crime. She is attacking everyone that not white-skinned turkish muslim hetero conservative ultranationalist male, yeah she is also an self-hating woman.

Now, as i learned.
1-)Avarage crime-sue needs 3-6 months for being had open.
2-)Twitter only gives personal-information about users only by request of courts
3-) After an acoount is deactivated, that account is being deleted after one month
4-)Twitter can't reach the personal-information about deleted acoounts. (I deactivated my account yesterday)
(I was also anonymous. I didn't post anything about myself)

Now, can i learn. Am i safe? Can twitter give personal-information without request of court.? Can court want personal-information this month ?

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 No.451519

>>451518
>if you made the mistake of trusting proprietary software get ready to spend 5-10 years in prison for crimes against the state.
I didn't made any crimes against the state though
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 No.451521

>>451520
After a one month that account is deactivated, account is being deleted and Twitter theirselves say that they can't reach the information
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 No.452404

You need to take your medication.
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 No.452854

>>451514
i don't understand what this is about, you just talk about what identity these people have, but not their class status or any other relevant context , which makes it hard to figure out what is going on.

If you are in danger, you can find strength in numbers, by building a mutual security group.
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 No.454308

>>451514
>do not want to be proud about thing that cannot be chosen
That is the weak spot, the falsehood of totalitarian right: the pride about things they did not bring, but of a forgotten irrecoverable past. Being triggered was just the proof of their flaw.
>they deserve to be roasted
>no one is safe

You want to know why they are fragile, but also know that to watch how anything works at the insides you must first… break it. Pride is a foolishness.


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 No.451642[Reply]

I've just finished watching the Caleb & Haz discourse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uUuB6Slqk about "muh third worldists and US socialist patriotism" (which was basically a covert response to the recent Caleb vs. Unruhe drama on Twitter), and came to a revelation.

Caleb emphasizes (generally, but in this exchange as well) how just like China had its "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" so will the USA in the foreseeable future have its "Socialism with Amurrican Characteristics [SWAC]." So it made me wonder… what would SWAC look like? And then I had a revelation. It would be how like their current advocates are, meaning Caleb and Haz: bullshitters making shit work by bullshitting.

If you aren't familiar with this take I'll give you a crash course:
>Caleb Maupin
>well read on communist history
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and philosophy
>tries to start an IRL movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult

>Haz

>well read on non-Marxist philosophy
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and world history
>tries to start an online movement
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 No.451755

Doesn't Haz actually argue that the current state of affairs is "socialist" in a way because the anarchy of market capitalism is already subjected to de facto coordination by means of bourgeois institutions, such as the government's money printer, and the large banks, except that this socialism is run to maintain the interests of private capital, in an ironic sort of reversal? Thus the requirement to preserve capitalism from self destruction inadvertently digs the grave of said capitalism. At least that seems to be the general idea which he gets at.
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 No.451774

>>451714
>>451710
Read the thread
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 No.454283

>>451755
That’s what I got too. It seems to me that he believes we live in bourgeois socialism, since established companies like Goldman Sachs and Boeing can survive on bailouts without generating a profit. It makes some sense, but I’m not really convinced.
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 No.454284

if you're already been persuaded by leftist rhetoric there is absolutely no reason to watch these folks, they're good to draw people in, but thats about it.
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 No.454285

Caleb might be retarded in his approach but he's right in the fact that Americans will never lach into socialism with out appealing to unique values Americans hold.


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