/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>484919
That's strange. Usually everyone hates libertarians

TIME WAVE ZERO anyone?

Novelty is KIN-G!

QUANTUM SURF's UP!

https://medium.com/@christian.marques/the-ressurection-of-timewave-zero-276ffcceb23e

>>484519
>what is to be done about the masses of sheeple who always do whatever the empire tells them to do?
We organize around them
>vaxies who support vax mandates
This is a wedge issue, like abortion and trans issues. Ignore it.
>how am I supposed to deal with people who vote
>vote
Voting is largely irrelevant, organize with communists instead of worrying about it. Do the party work.
>what are we supposed to do about the brainwashed, bloodthirsty psychos who support the global 4th reich?
Here I think is a good question because even if propaganda led people to believe certain things, I can't help but feel some kind of hate towards the ordinary masses that aren't anti-capitalist.

Like, if you make an honest mistake, you should still make up for it in one way or another. You aren't innocent just because of how you think. In the same way if you go to work for the regime uncritically, I don't really care that you are too ignorant to see the truth - you are actively proliferating the system.

But I think I need to step back and realize that once there is a real alternative dual power in America, then some people, hopefully enough of them, will be on the side of the working class, and everyone else will expose themselves as class enemies.

It's kind of as simple as that anon.

>>484919
Liberals are now firmly to the right of conservatives. You aren't tripping.

Conservatives are at least somewhat critical of the system, and many of them hate MAGA at this point.

Liberals do exactly this:
>Libs will smugly and self-righteously support literal fascism
And they, being midwits who think they know everything, argue using lies, and after you debunk their lie they come up with another one. The only argument against a liberal is a bullet to the head.

>>497437
>Conservatives are at least somewhat critical of the system, and many of them hate MAGA at this point.

This is the only point here that needs evidence.

>>496724
Yes, true.

I am very firm. The truth is that even if their cultural analysis has truth to it (like blacks in America being annoying and low autism score), nothing justifies the existence of rulership. That's far more powerful of a point to make than a regular leftist going "uhhh that's racist!" (for example.)

>>496548
I remember you said on leftypol that you're Albanian. Are you Albanian Albanian or American-Albanian? Are you Muslim?

>>496787
Albanian-American. Not muslim. Born and raised without a god.

>>496548
I made a new video. Forgot to bump it here, sorry guys.

identity politics is a resonant fractal ov thee pattern/matter inherent zeitgeist trap … 1bit B&W diagrams & weather reports (& Werner Herzog stuff) are the only way?

I dig "her" stuff … Albanians have the physiological edge - classically conditioned rhinognosis!

>>495977
>romanticizing lumpen
It's 2026 and you're still using this retarded claim. Nobody is "romanticizing" anything. You talk about the segments of the working class as though they're some distant thing for us to fantasize about, but it's not the case. I don't have to "romanticize" anything; I'm lumpen, and I have plenty of experience with others in this strata. I make no broad positive or negative claims about lumpenproles; no pedestals, no moralistic condemnations, our class status is related to our material conditions, and I don't believe, from my experience, that this inherently results in reactionary behaviors as an entire strata.

By contrast, the capitalist propaganda which perpetually incites working people against other working people, and perpetually obfuscates the crimes of the rich while condemning the crimes (and supposed crimes) of low-level workers, is by its nature reactionary, and it's very telling that this is the only thing you focus on perpetuating when you come here and make your same old strawman argument about how everybody on the left today totally thinks lumpenproles are magic negros who spray sunshine out of their butts.

>Bukele is super popular
Also super mobbed up. An insanely corrupt guy whose actual programme is based around incorporation of large drug cartels' influence into state policy, and heavy backing from the U.S.

>lumpens can be tools of reaction like fascist paramilitias
Weird thing to argue while also shilling for Bukele. I'm told (by you every time you post this dumb argument) to uncritically believe that fascist paramilitaries are popular with the working class, so if your argument is that lumpens are inherently fascistic, then what's the problem? That's popular, or at least seems to be if you evaluate nothing else and don't take any other factors into account.

Marx's tirade about the lumpenproletariat, his most famous one, besides being a short part of a broader bibliography whose ire was focused far more against capitalists, landlords, etc. than against lumpen (unlike bourgeois propaganda, which incites especially against lumpenproles), was also distinctly moralistic. It's far, far, far away from the height of material analysis when he's basically just compPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>495981
… but with that said, there are two aspects which are still insightful. First, the concept of the lumpenprole itself comes from it, and second the description of the "reserve army of labor" actually is helpful and useful and you can actually understand the situation better if you focus on this aspect of the analysis and not all the shit where Marx is seething over how much he personally hates prostitutes. Seething over hookers isn't worth shit; a Fascist can blame the hookers for moral rot and seethe over it and incite, and those who have not been relegated to the positions of whores (yet) might cheer. It's worth much more to understand why lumpens exist, and to use that understanding to create a society with more educated people and more opportunities which produces less need for people to became prostitutes or beggars.

This naturalismizing tendency of class pseudostudies is just the sign of childs' fake marxism. Learn proper marxoid science and think in actual true categories. Think about goyim.

>>495977
The left romanticizes lumpens when they’re not shouting out right wing slogans.

>>497422
Once again, nobody "romanticizes" lumpen, retard.
See >>495981

>>493115
Neither is a science, because they do not utilize a scientific method.

psychiatry is, like everything nearly else in the "healthcare" industry, an evil born out of necessity
they know that there are people in desperate need of psychiatric help, just like pfizer knows that your grandpa needs the jibby jab if he doesnt wanna die to a cough, so they get to charge you as much as they can get away with and treat you like a guinea pig
they know that people will take a debilitating diagnosis like DID or ADHD seriously, so they fuck with the diagnostic guidelines and prescribe addictive substances like candy
they have immense power over your quality of life and thus will abuse that power like any other corporate dickwad would
everything is scamified in capitalism, you dont need to create a pure scam to scam the shit out of innocent people anymore

>>497220
ADHD was introduced as a pathology back in the 1990s when schools began cutting back recess time for benchmark tests.

Now people think it’s a side effect of electronic media

>>497214

i better be without boners and emotionless than see horrors of my mind all day! i was genuenly scared when symptoms appeared

… if you can regulate your own thoughts/actions for like 20seconds/2mins/2days/2months/2years yer ok u dig

… if you want to connect with galactic hive mind you need to go straight edge cold turkey for a month or so …

yall fuckers are probably so tired of me lol😭 i'm the least woke libtard person💔💔💔💔 please all stay good and safe

>>497316
This is yet another reason why college enrollment should be restricted on basis of the most academically competent.
Everyone else can do five hundred hours of community service to be eligible

>>497257
> we all shall understand poor people and people with mental/physical issues. don't harass people with less discipline, give them good info sources how to eat better. companies hunt on these people and sell weekly dose of sugar in a cup

That means stop excessively patronizing kids.

>>497318
The biggest problem was cutting carbs (on top of the Dew) and going with high protein and fruits and vegetables. I lost 40lbs too fast and had frequent low blood sugar causing afib and nsvt. Now I eat carbs again but I can't gain weight. The point of brown sugar is when a recipe calls for baking soda it has to have a catalyst. So I don't use it on anything, that's what Splenda is for. Monkfruit on granola is tolerable but that's about as much sweets as I can take.

>>497392
>a catalyst
reactive ingredient for thermal decomposition and leavening. lol

>>497358
By freebies I mean free booze and snacks and "state sponsored" girlfriends.

>>497366
They offered massive jobs programs, which is a condition which did more to end "wilful slacking" than any punitive measure they might take.

>>497368
I feel like that's an infinitely small subset of people who I virtually never encountered at all before I started using this site. Tbh I kind of think they're some kind of op.
The Leftypol demographic has been really, really dumb since Bunkerchan got couped.

>>497358
nothing is a freebie in a society where everyone has to work and receives the full value of their work
this is the ideal of socialism, to each according to their contribution, whether or not the ussr achieved it
able bodied people who want things like public housing or healthcare without putting in the socially necessary work to pay for it are not socialists…

>>497374
>nothing is a freebie in a society where everyone has to work and receives the full value of their work
>this is the ideal of socialism, to each according to their contribution, whether or not the ussr achieved it
But also "from each according to his ability; to each according to his need." It's not the exact opposite of what you said, because there is some overlap, but these are still very different statements.
>able bodied people who want things like public housing or healthcare without putting in the socially necessary work to pay for it are not socialists…
They also largely don't exist.
The vast majority of people who want public housing and healthcare as social services already work jobs, or, if they don't, have a lack of opportunity for work due to an exclusionary private jobs system which creates so many unemployed people by design that the US has consistently had to cook the books by redefining what it means to be "unemployed" to exclude people who've given up on finding work. A major point of socialism on a largescale state level is to put the profits of labor towards the greater good and democratize their usage rather than just enriching the capitalist and rentierist enslavers of humanity. The point isn't to lay some previously non-existent burden onto the backs of the people, but to enable the people's labor to go towards actual common progress and benefit.

>>497377
>from each according to his ability, to each according to his need
thats communism
>They also largely don't exist.
we're not talking about the vast majority of people here now are we

t. The Onion

>end up in some cyberpunk world
Already there.
>i heard a podcast the other day say "a world covered in datacentres" without the slightest sense of irony, cynicism, doubt, or really anything negative. i don't find trouble in that personally
Then you're really, really dumb.
The purpose of those is mass surveillance and suppression.

>the powers that be
Genocidal pedophiles. Deeply stupid human beings with names and addresses.
You'll die some day regardless of what you do. Death, eventually, is inevitable. No one who fights fights because winning is the only possible outcome or because it is easy. If you are unwilling to overcome a childish fear of the inevitable in order to fight something intolerably horrible, you are either a tremendous coward or you don't understand how bad it already is.

I literally don't understand why you would go to work to enrich some stranger you have no relationship with.

You should be working to enrich yourself and the people you love.

The current predicament shouldn't be tolerated, yet it is, and it's so absurdly stupid that I am really close to being angry at the average working person.

It really is that simple.

>>497148
>>497160
People who talk like this are often the least likely to be front lines of revolution

Umm… anon? Are you all right?

What could they possible do with a 40,000 acre data center in Utah? I'm actually having trouble imagining any project requiring that much compute. Either they are desperately trying to advance AI without advancing the computer science and throwing hardware at the project, or they think they can start automating large parts of the economy now and they need computers to power humanoid robots. Or there's some secret third option.

data centers are a) a scam to destroy productive forces b) massive storage of surveillance data for the slave panopticon. there's no "AI"

>>496523
What could they do with surveillance though? They already have ICE agents putting people into concentration camps, do they really need a surveillance excuse to do more of the same thing?

Also can you please explain how AI will destroy productive forces, I thought AI itself is a type of productive force.

And obviously there is AI technology but I agree that there is no AGI.

>>497051
>do they really need a surveillance excuse to do more of the same thing?
It's less an excuse and more having a larger amount of data and data sorting capacity in order to track people more, improve propaganda, and run more ops and crowd manipulation experiments.

>>497053
Will this push Americans towards organizing a proletarian vanguard party? Or will they just be NPC's about it?

Surely there must be a `last straw` of tolerance that people have about their conditions.