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 No.479884[Reply]

So in the copyrite regime everything that gets published gets copyrited by default, automatically, by the mere fact of publishing.

If somebody re-publishes something but fake-dates it to an earlier date than the original release. It creates contradicting copyrite claims.

This design flaw probably wasn't realistically going to be exploited in the analog days. But in the digital age where the copyrite regime has imposed many automatic guilty until proven innocent automatic copyrite censorship mechanisms. This can be exploited.

It could be avoided by creating a central copyrite claims office where people have to register for a copyrite claim. The central data-base would have an authoritative record of who actually published first, preventing contradicting claims. If copyrite claims have to be registered, they can't be the automatic default anymore. Many people simply would not bother registering. Many works would simply be released as public domain.

I'm sure people are abusing this already. However I'm wondering whether there is a way to use this to bring about beneficial changes to weaken the copyrite regime so it can't be used as a means for censorship, monopolism, frivolous litigation, etc.

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 No.477700[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>475181

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 24,000.

The US House, with Biden's support, approved more than $14,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel.

South Africa filed a case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza.

Houthi rebels in Yemen have attacked cargo ships in the Red Sea in an attempt to disrupt the supply line of Israel's ongoing carpet bombing campaign against Gaza. The Biden admin has responded to the Houthis with a retaliatory bombing campaign.

400,000 marched in Washington DC in protest of Biden's support of Israel's genocide.
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 No.479879

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UK workers blockade factories accused of sending arms to Israel

Trade unionists in the UK are blockading weapons factories accused of alleged arms sales to Israel amid the devastating Gaza war.

Hundreds of trade unionists and workers have shut down arms factories in England and Scotland accused of supplying the Israeli military with essential components or weapons.

The action's stated aim is to disrupt the flow of arms to Israel as it prepares for a ground invasion of Rafah and to urge the UK government to support an immediate and permanent ceasefire, the workers' groups said.

It follows the Canadian government's announcement on Tuesday that it will halt future arms sales to Israel, having already reduced its weapons shipments to Israel to non-lethal equipment, such as radios, following the 7 October Hamas attacks.

Israel's war on Gaza has killed around 32,000 Palestinians, the vast majority women and children, while a blockade has led to deaths by starvation.

Workers, including teachers and artists who are members of trade unions, are shutting down GE Aviation Systems in Cheltenham and Leonardo UK in Edinburgh – factories that produce components for F-35 fighter jets, the world's most advanced fighter jet.

A Leonardo spokesperson told The New Arab: "This morning a group of protestors assembled outside the Edinburgh site. The safety and wellbeing of our employees, contractors, and neighbours is our first priority. Police were in attendance. Leonardo UK complies fully with all the UK Government's export control protocols, the legal obligations and the processes in place to operate those protocols."
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 No.479881

>>479874
>Israelis pouring concrete into a well… in the West Bank!
I mean they're just going to dig another well. And when the cement is dried it can be chiseled into bricks for building material. But the level of mental derangement necessary for attacking life-support systems. Wow.

>>479875
>Netanyahu suggests in the Knesset that the Biden pier can be used to remove Gazans.
So Genocide Ben wants it to be a deportation-pier.
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 No.479882

>>479877
>influencing operation has been targeting UNRWA
The Zionist propaganda narrative pushers stand out like a sore thumb, the dumb fucks are so incredibly pushy, aggressive and downright grating, that they generate anti-zionism as a core value in people they touch.

I think the article somewhat misses the core of the problem. The problem isn't that they can create sock puppet accounts on social media to spread bullshit, the problem is that they're a military using information war-fare tactics against civilian populations. This is a problem in the military hierarchy failing their responsibility.

>How so?
People will realize what's going on anyway, and the Zionist silence will be understood as malicious intent.
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 No.479887

>>479881
>So Genocide Ben wants it to be a deportation-pier.
Sounds like it, yeah.
>>479882
>The Zionist propaganda narrative pushers stand out like a sore thumb, the dumb fucks are so incredibly pushy, aggressive and downright grating, that they generate anti-zionism as a core value in people they touch.
Hasbarists are remarkably similar to Swarmfront.
>I think the article somewhat misses the core of the problem. The problem isn't that they can create sock puppet accounts on social media to spread bullshit, the problem is that they're a military using information war-fare tactics against civilian populations. This is a problem in the military hierarchy failing their responsibility.
This is true. The fact that they have such a huge dedicated propaganda wing is an obvious problem, and it's a fact which their quislings in the west deliberately ignore.

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 No.479783[Reply]

Why do leftists ignore central banks and the finance industry in all their economic analysis?

https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/94110/06-04-2022/the-truth-about-inflation-and-how-to-fight-it/
https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/article/marxian-theory-inflation/study-guides/marxian-theory-inflation/

Every leftist publication I can find blames inflation and the cost of living crisis on "muh greedy corporations" and "muh incompetent politicians". Not a single mention of deficit spending, fiat money printing or fractional reserve banking. Why is that? Do you guys actually think that banks are completely blameless in this system you call capitalism?
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 No.479817

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>>479808
Good poast
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 No.479858

Mostly because once central banks exist, what function they play is not about capital or a productive economy at all, but management of assets at the highest level. They are the stronghold of the proprietors, and indicate the victory of property over society. There is no more "revolution" if that happens. If that happens, the people have lost.
Humanity lost as a result of the war of 1914, and everything since has been the continuation of the end of the world. The future refused to change.
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 No.479859

It is worth noting that Marxists believed the "second revolution" - anything you would call "socialism" - was far in the future, perhaps more than a century removed from the time they wrote or longer. Anything that would have allowed socialism as a meaningful proposition didn't exist as a worked-out plan until the last third of the 20th century. By then, socialism made clear that it did not include most of humanity, who were never wanted nor needed, and so we got the world we got. There was never going to be anything else. They were never going to let you in their society.

The early socialists mostly were reformers who wanted a nicer capitalism, and at most suggested that "hey, maybe we should have less wars and allow the world to unite peacefully instead of do the things we know you're all planning to do." Had it been allowed to exist on its own - had the middle class and proprietors seen correctly that they were being lined up to be wiped out, and their enemy was always above, not below - history turns out very different, starting around the middle of the 19th century, in ways that make 1900 nearly unrecognizable. Among the changes is that the British Empire is wiped out on all fronts, ending with an invasion of the island by the end of the century and a very violent extermination of the eugenists and their fellow travelers in all countries of the world. This is unlikely to ever happen for a variety of reasons, but that would be a bare minimum to avert the course we're on, with unknown results. Very likely the world would turn into a dystopian hell, and this would be better than the world we're going to become. There would have been an end to that world, when the next thing arises.

As it is, there is nothing that can possibly change this world that is realistically possible. It went on for too long, and it is now global. There isn't even an idea that suggests anything should be different, let alone could be different. That's how far gone we are.
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 No.479860

In this "world line", you might have salvaged something until 1989, but it was increasingly little, and humanity didn't just lack any good in them, but were nowhere near as smart as they believed themselves to be. All of those brains chopped told the rulers that humans really were more animal, including themselves, and that's why the rulers embraced acting like Satanic retards.

After 1989, world history is locked in. None of what happens now would happen unless the rulers were not confident that this was inevitable and desirable and the only idea they have left. This idea was always at the apex of human civilization, so it is not surprising it did turn out this way.

Eventually this beast will do its thing, and the next thing will start - I expect in 40 or 50 years they will memory hole everything they did now and act like they dindu nothing. But, all that was done will last forever. Humans, in total, are irredeemably retarded. There is nothing intellectual in them, and the religion they chose will wipe out any sign of independent thought they have. There will be attempts to build something, but humans have become so degraded that it is improper to speak of the concepts that once held spiritual and political currency after long enough. Already, large swathes of humanity have given up completely, not expecting this to ever be different. For themselves, it is certainly over, and they're going through the motions out of a sense that maybe divine intervention happens, or because they have nothing better to do but live. There is nothing "up there" that would construct anything. Their last hope is that they have some super "wonder weapon" that will allow them to become immortal gods or super-computers, and this is the greatest folly. The Fall of Man will be complete. Failed race.
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 No.480007

>>479860
<dooomer misanthrope ramblings
sigh
>After 1989, world history is locked in.
After the Soviet fall, reactionary counter revolution undid a lot of progress in the world. However history is not 'locked in', because that's idealist nonsense. History is just stories about the past, which sometime are true.

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 No.478125[Reply]

The supposedly left-wing desire to obsess over the "racist, settler-colonialist Zionism" of the Israeli state is a way to obscure how the conflict is connected to capitalism, specifically, how it emerges from the failures of capitalist politics. What the so-called left has managed to achieve through their exhortation to focus on the plight of the Palestinian people is to transform empathy for suffering into a thought-terminating cliche, wielding it as a a blunt instrument of censorship, and at the expense of the very people who they claim to have empathy for. In true Orwellian fashion, they have managed to reconcile their empathy for Palestinian suffering with unwavering support for Hamas, free from any cognitive dissonance.

The extreme rhetoric and spectacular protests of the contemporary left is little more than a means of pressuring mainstream capitalist politicians, and even the desire to "defund Israel” (a policy that far-right Zionists also support) is likely just a way to scrub away the issue of Israel/Palestine in U.S. politics. Ultimately, their goal is not to support the liberation of the Palestinian people, but to be “on the right side of history", to wield moral authority over others by appearing to side with the most vulnerable belligerents. They perversely enjoy the fact that Palestinians will continue to be slaughtered, proudly parading the numbers of dead so that their "progressive" mode of politics can remain relevant.

But the greatest crime that the contemporary left commits is to tell people that they can be petty-bourgeois radicals, nationalists and fundamentalists, yet also be progressive - that socialism is unnecessary for the cause of progress and justice. The post-colonial world is the history of peoples living together but being shoehorned into nation-states. This is the outcome of the vision of the League of Nations and of the United Nations; it is a world of nation-states, and therefore a world of widespread national repression. There is no way that the nation-states which emerged from decolonization can be accepted as progressive or liberatory in the socialist sense, and the reason why the Soviet Union refused to join the League of Nations in the first place was to reject this very vision of a world of nation-states.

How we should interpret the Israel-Hamas war is not as a noble struggle for liberation against the forces of oppression, but as a capitalist political negotiation through violence. The goaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.479811

>>478252
Still writing it. I can post the incomplete version if you want.
>>478255
This is pure capitalist realism. I critiqued this attitude in an article about the Russo-Ukrainian war. I can post it here if you want.
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 No.479813

>>479811
You're a wanker and you just want to feel smarter than other people, and fixating too much on this alienates you and makes it more difficult for you to effectively work towards change. If you want to make a difference, stop complaining about other people for not phrasing everything to meet your sensibilities. You can be of value, but you choose to sit around in your armchair jerking off to your own opinions instead. Reconsider your approach.
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 No.479818

>>479813
Speak for yourself. It's better to do nothing at all than to participate in pseudo-activity that only simulates change. I've chosen to spend my time critiquing that so that we can start genuinely acting towards a serious goal rather than participating in a glorified circlejerk masquerading as progress. You're the wanker, mate.
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 No.479819

Sounds like you have a lot of straw men residing in your head rent-free, OP.
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 No.479821

>>479819
Ya I agree I didn't do a good job at fairly representing those I was critiquing

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 No.477809[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You need a license to:
- drive a car
- hunt/fish
-own a gun
- vote
-travel
- trade
-operate machinery
- do skilled labor

Yet, the most consequential job in the world requires no licensing: RAISING A FAMILY.


Is it any wonder why so many kids turn out all fucked up?
Too many halfass adults feel entitled by virtue of age to have a spouse and offspring.
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 No.479041

>>479039
Enrichment is only necessary for certain reactor designs that rely on U-235. However, there are nuclear reactors designs that don't. Heavy water reactors and molten salt reactors can run on natural uranium or thorium.
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 No.479043

>>479041
>Enrichment is only necessary for certain reactor designs that rely on U-235.
>However, there are nuclear reactors designs that don't.
>Heavy water reactors and molten salt reactors can run on natural uranium or thorium.
I know, but we're talking about a kid from the 90s
for context see these posts
>>479033
>>479038
He probably didn't build an advanced reactor design as a hobby.
I'm still confounded how he build any reactor design.
Even a very basic nuclear pile would be very hard to pull off.
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 No.479771

>>479043
He used radioactive pellets from broken smoke detectors.
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 No.479772

>>479771
>He used radioactive pellets from broken smoke detectors.
Lol is that the reason those were banned for a while ?

Anyway did it work did he get any energy out of it ?
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 No.479774

>>479772
I think so. Look up "Radioactive Boy Scout." It was from the 1990s.

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 No.479729[Reply]

judging government based on their policy is wrong.
judging government based on what said government said is wrong.
judging government based on what the people said is wrong.
potraying government as hating queers and minorities is wrong.
stop potraying goverment as if they monitor their citizen 24/7 to see sign if they do things that are considered queer or againts making hetero familliy. and then arrest them becuase they hate queer people and put them on scary labour/torture/cell camp. it is wrong to potray government like this.
stop potraying government as if their country have every region filled with anti-queer/ anti-minority people who are the same as american conservative level people. it is wrong to potray government and country as that.
always remember to specify everytime everywhere.
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 No.479731

>>479729
Not sure where you're going with this.

Can you explain for example the first one
>judging government based on their policy is wrong.
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 No.479732

>>479729
>judging government based on their policy is wrong.
no it isn't
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 No.479734

>>479732
it actually is but not for faggot op reasons. If a bourgeois government finances its military it can be sure to be used against the proles. If a DotP does the same policy it can certainly be a good thing. Liberals get into the policy only mindset and end up supporting backwards policies like higher tax rates for the sake of "public works" ie paying off your campaign backers.
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 No.479768

>>479734
>If a bourgeois government finances its military it can be sure to be used against the proles. If a DotP does the same policy it can certainly be a good thing.
This is true, it matters what class interests are served. But here is a question: did socialist countries actually use the same policies as capitalist countries ?
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 No.479786

>>479768
yes, this is especially true for elementary policy like setting sales tax in regional governments. Policy is broadly defined such that the capitalist kernel is removed and it spans multiple modes of production.

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 No.466060[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The more older I become the more I understand just how strong is my urge to murder other communists.

Almost every one of them is some kind of a sperg, an idealist, a dogmoid automaton, a lib, a nationalist, a culture warrior, a grifter, a socialite, I could go on and on.
I can't fucking stand you. Every time I talk to one I imagine him choking on his blood, and this image gives me a relief.

First thing that triggers me immensely is the obsession with philosophy. Every time some idealist sperg mentions dialectics to me it takes me titanic effort to not pick up a chair and bash their head into the nearest wall with it.
Seriously, it got so bad that I sometimes daydream about choking Engels and Hegel with a stupid smile on my face.
I'm now convinced that there can not be such thing as a proletarian philosophy. Philosophy is a mind poison of the ruling classes, always has been, and it poisoned the minds of the leaders of the workers movement due to them all being intellectuals. All according to Marxism lol.
This obsession is so widespread that I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who came to Marxism through the study of history and not through some philosophic elitist drivel. It tells

The second thing is idealism (being an insufferable sperg is closely related). It seems like you just can't expect communists to be pragmatic in this day and age. It's like they are stuck between the Scylla of maximalism and the Charybdis of defeatism. It's either "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!" or "capitalism is actually socialism because they say so". It seems like communists don't have the patience or the mental capacity to just keep fucking grinding to their aims, slowly and methodically, using everyone and everything they can, and patiently waiting for their moment. No, they just NEED to sperg out and express their very important opinion (that 10 out of 10 times is some banal idealism or empty populist platitudes) on every little matter!
At moments like this it usually takes me two to three cigarettes to calm down.

And as we touched on it already, lets discuss the third thing - cheap populism. It is so widespread that I got in more fights over populist rhetoric than over any other thing. It seems like every communist takes his audience for fucking 10-year old kids who can be manipulated by simple tricks. Hey, you know that I can SEE what you are doing? You know we're all adults here? Hey, look me in the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.479759

Eugene is a weaponized general AI. We are being targeted by the Big Three. It's over.
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 No.479764

>>479759
Fear Eugene.
There is no Big Three. Only AM.
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 No.479765

>>479764
Who or what is Eugene or AM?


AM as in "ante meridiem"?
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 No.479766

>>479726
Based
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 No.479767

>>479726
<false dichotomy of left right bourgeois politics, to divide and conquer the proles
>>479766
>Based
why ?

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 No.479738[Reply]

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/03/12/degd-m12.html

Latin America
<Argentine strike wave continues

>In recent weeks, Argentine unions have called strikes by teachers, aeronautical workers, railway workers and others to put forward salary demands due to high inflation and economic policies promoted by President Javier Milei.

< River-boat operators and crews in Buenos Aires Province struck following a legally mandated cooling-off period. The struggle is over wages. They may be joined by river workers in Santa Fe province, which borders Buenos Aires, along the Parana River, whose cooling-off period expires on March 15. Ships that are still sailing will dock at their destination, download their cargo, with the strikers remaining on board during the duration of the work-stoppage.
< On March 7 transit workers in metropolitan Buenos Aires carried out their second strike this month. The strike is over unpaid wages and wage increases. The trade unions that represent transit workers defined the underlying wage issue as the protection of workers’ buying power.

<Women protest against gig work in Quito, Ecuador

>Thousands of women marched in Quito on March 8 (International Women’s Day). The demonstrators denounced the rise of contingent employment, due to the economic policies of current president Daniel Noboa. The demonstrators also carried signs condemning the ongoing Gaza genocide.

>The demonstrators rallied in Quito’s historic San Francisco Square. At the rally, women read manifestos denouncing Noboa’s policies, the war and conditions of increasing misery and poverty.
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 No.479747

>>479746
Why do you think they want to allow anyone to live? There is no "natural" cause for this. It's pure rent extraction because they want to price working class people out of the city. Out of society. Out of existence.

Every time this is naturalized and excused as something other than what it is, the enclosure continues and people are nullified before they could even begin to act in their own defense. Paralysis of resistance is inherent to the entire German ideology.
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 No.479748

Also funny that strikes of service workers that work with poor people are being elevated - strikes to punish the poor basically, not that legal services for poor people exist in this cursed world and it's all a joke. But, it's telling that they're cutting away the last pretenses that the institutions have anything to do with "helping" anyone. We really are on our own, lined up. That was always the plan.

I just go on expecting the worst. I said when COVID started the key choice will be when the workers will be told to sacrifice the losers and glorify it, and that this "choice" would be made for them. Only way this could end. The good news is that most of the people are not so enthusiastic and make their displeasure clear with all of this. It's too late for the losers. We were selected to die a long time ago, and if we live, it will only be the most perilous existence. This will be much worse when Nazification mandates such civic participation. It always does that.

I will tell everyone while I can - do not believe decency ever appeals to those who glorify indecency in all of its forms. That's the worst thing you can do. Showing the utmost contempt for such glorification of indecency, calling them the fags they are, puts them on edge. They threaten and insist that you must uphold decencies while they mandate more and more indecency. It is simple enough to show them the true hatred, instead of the slimy snark and faggotry of their failed race.
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 No.479754

>>479746
>a massive amount of it is just land speculation driving prices up across the board because literally everyone and every industry uses land & buildings & natural resources.
You are right that land is a natural monopoly, especially for real-estate in cities and agricultural land. Large hedge-funds have been able to abuse that in many regards.

However nothing is/can stop people from building floating houses and grow cities or towns into the ocean. It might take a while until all the engineering aspects are worked out and the most effective technological pathways are found. That famous city in Italy with building on stilts that was just an early attempt.

Storm-proof stable(non-sway) floating foundations are already done and cost efficient.

Sewage is currently stored in tanks, and then periodically pumped off by a sewage-barge. That could use some improvements. Sewage could be decontaminated, purified, dehydrated, then mixed with cheap sand to create soil for floating agriculture barges. People would get payed for their sh…bodily-contributions while also foiling the ploys of agro-land speculators, one dump at a time.

Electrical supply is wave-power, solar and wind. There is grid-power based on underwater cables derived from houseboat-supplies, but it's too expensive to scale up. However, 70% energy efficient, focused microwave power links exist. It's good enough for supplemental grid-energy used in conjunction with renewables. Nicola Tesla dreamed about creating wireless energy towers, and now something vaguely similar might actually become viable. And it's very cheap, a microwave link rectenna is basically just a wire mesh. Installing that is cheaper than a satellite dish.

The micro-wave-link Power-Towers could have small modular nuclear reactors, they would dump their waste-heat into the surrounding ocean water, by passive radiators. The floating buildings could use heat-pumps to collect that heat to make hot-water supply and building heat, from the same ocean water. Basically remote-heat without any pipes.

People would move around on city-barges instead of city-buses/trams. It's slow but very energy efficient, cheap, quiet and pleasant to look at or ride in.
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 No.479761

>>479754
>small modular nuclear reactors
A scam if there ever was one. Nuclear power should be big and industrial to maximize efficiency. Not small and numerous to maximize risk.
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 No.479762

>>479761
You're not wrong, a 300 megawatt SMR is about 5% less efficient than a 10 gigawatt whopper. But SMRs are already developed, so we might as well use em. And they do have very small exclusion zones, which makes them particularly easy to slot into a city design. The risks on both design strategies is very low.

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 No.479612[Reply]

What is the scientific explanation for why different races of human are not different subspecies. I would like an actual answer rather than ban I am not trolling.
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 No.479625

Will also say - white people vastly overestimate their "smarts", believe in the stupidest symbols and virtue signaling because they've been trained to become fags of the lowest sort. The people who bray the most about who the smart/stupid races are are visibly stupid degenerates justifying their perversion. Usually the legit racists remain quiet and let the enablers shit up the world for them - and the enablers are trained like dogs to obey, which says something about what the white race became. Us Yakubians did it to ourselves I'm afraid.
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 No.479626

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>>479612
>races
that term was depreciated
-the scientific community was too embarrassed about 18 and 19 century "race-science". They were frauds, measuring the size of people's skulls to make it look sciency and then just made shit up.
-We also discovered genetics, it turns out a lot of old-timy race-classification were completely wrong, Dog-races for pets are mostly just brand-names. For proper science based on genetic stuff the word sub-species is used, to avoid confusion.

It's all very un-intuitive
We have over 10000 different ant-sub-species. Many of whom only have slightly different antlers/antennas.
Sometimes there are animals that look very different but their genetics make them the same species, while other animals that look very similar have genetics that make them separate species.

<What is the scientific explanation for why there are no human subspecies
There used to be lots of human subspecies like for example Neanderthals and Denisovans. But they all died out. We don't really know why. There's just one type of human now, basically us. There is lots of speculations about why human subspecies were extinct, but they tend to be light on scientific evidence, often leaning into the genre of pre-historic-fiction.
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 No.479634

>>479626
so its phenotype vs genotype?
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 No.479638

>>479634
I can sort of understand why you'd think this, but no, not really.

Most of the ways of categorizing organisms that predate high fidelity scientific measurement instruments don't really work, it doesn't map 1:1 onto any of the more recent scientific knowledge. Many are hellbent on doing that anyway and are attempting to shoe-horn genetic data into racial categories that originated in the 17 century for example. To the great chagrin of geneticists, i might add. Which understandably do not want to have biases injected into their work.

I will say that the genetic rout probably isn't the last page in this book. My hunch is that organisms might be described as a self replicating pattern that adapts and changes over time. As well as connecting to other parts of a biome through matter, energy and information exchange.
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 No.479722

>>479638
Gee… like, I don't know, an assembly of objects working in concert. What do we call those objects? "Organs"? Heavens no, that is against The Science. Organisms can't have organs, don't be silly!

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 No.304257[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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>>478804
These guys think hitting thirty is old age.
>OMG IM SO OLD BCUZ IM THIRTY AND I DONT HAVE A GF
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>>351336
Lets go surfin now
Everyones learnin how
Come on a surfin safari with meee……
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I think it is pretty comforting that most socialists thought that the young USSR would be doomed if Germany would not follow up (They had the largest socdem, socialist and communist party around that time with the SPD). But USSR won their civil war, developed so rapidly, defend against Nazi Germany and be the second superpower within 30 years and constant besieging. Nowadays they would have it even easier with modern computers and internet to make a fairly sophisticated actual planned economy.
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tankies should focus on defending things more. "talks" are manipulative and have always been like that.
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>>479554
>Nowadays they would have it even easier with modern computers and internet to make a fairly sophisticated actual planned economy.
Yeah if the imperial moron-gang sets off WW3, the silver lining will be the unraveling of the global order to the point where another USSR2.0 can rise. And this time around it won't be held back by technological barriers. If capitalism survives that at all, it'll never be able to go beyond social democracy with lots of well-fare, good public services and strong labor protections.

>>479653
>tankies should focus on defending things more.
Probably yes, a lot of contemporary anti-communism tries to justify it self on the basis of lies about the history of socialism in the 20th century.

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