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▶ No.490448[Reply]>>490464>>490475

The Empire is about to murder millions of people, both through the new concentration camp, the already existing ones, and now through taking away what little medical coverage the American poor had. How many millions of people must die before liberals realise this is bigger than Trump, bigger than the two party system, bigger than the endless game "my guy vs their guy" ad infinitum?
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>How many millions of people must die before liberals realise
Does it ever work like that? Liberals don't care until it affects them personally.
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>>490449
sadly true. I can only hope that this effects them enough that it wakes some of them up. I know that sounds fucked up, but at least then something good would come of it.
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>>490448
>How many millions of people must die before liberals realise
Infinity. Libtards are every bit as much the enemy as the most extreme vicious rightoids.
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>>490448
It appears that this has also increased the rate of de-dollarisation, as well as lower the dollar's international exchange rate.
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>>490464
The key here is that none of this is totally innate.
Literally anyone can come to their senses wrt certain things - Palestine has been a great indicator of that. There are MAGA people (not counting celebrities & politicians, I mean normal MAGA-infected people specifically here) whose beliefs in general are fucking insane who still have been horrified by the foreign wars & genocide, and whose worldview on those specific things falls closer to reality than the MSM narrative does. "Liberals" start to break out of the mind prison when they realize, too, like the "lesser evil" narrative completely fucking collapsed last year to the extent that even libs realized they didn't have a moral highground to try to guilt trip people into "vote blue no matter who" - I'm aware that fucking DNC freaks on twitter still did it, but nobody I knew IRL would, there was a genuine sense of shame. A lot of them are still frustratingly… complacent… but more are becoming aware of the contradictions now, even though they're still trying to keep up with the puppet show. Something I'm realizing is that the truth just fucking hurts a lot of people, actually facing the implications as opposed to merely saying it is difficult even for people whose class interests really aren't served by this sheer brutality.

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▶ No.490412[Reply]>>490415

I wonder why people almost never assassinate the wealthy class and the special interest group leaders.
I dont condone any assassination but Im just saying that that when politicians do things people hate its not like the politicians do things alone.

And damn that country you know which one shouldnt kill Mr K. for nukes.

and killing people wont solve the main systemic problems so never think of it.
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>>490412
>I wonder why people almost never assassinate the wealthy class and the special interest group leaders.
That's not true, during feudalism, rulers and their entourage got killed frequently, some of that was intrigue in ruling circles but a significant part was people exercising democracy by lethal means. Many kings and queens got un-elected by "cutting edge technology".

I think that the introduction of bourgeois democracy made systems bend enough to the demands of populations that lethal democracy became uncommon.

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▶ No.490283[Reply]>>490284

Who is the most evil man in history and why is it Leon Trotsky?
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▶ No.490284

>>490283
There definitely was a trot to neocon pipeline, so there is that.

To be fair the neocons did more damage to the US empire than the Soviets ever did. Maybe they played 3d Backgammon.
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▶ No.490310

Leon Trotsky was based. Fuck you

By the way, she's literally me fr fr!!!
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjcU4bE6/
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▶ No.490251[Reply]>>490292

Why is the left so fucking censorship/ban happy? Even on leftist forums, .orge and behind closed doors, you basically just cannot have discussion or acknowledge very real issues, because they sometimes are tangentially aligned to right wing narratives. This is also a problem in itself, the idea that the right is ALWAYS WRONG, when they just clearly isn't true, sometimes we are the ones who are spouting bullshit (usually from a place of idealism) and they turn out to be the ones that were acting in good faith.
A good example is Immigration, the left censored debate on this so hard, that it ceded the entire ground to the right. Now you have mass rape gangs, quality of life imploding in high immigrant areas, ethnic enclaves, increasing crime, lowered civicism and the left is still going "IF YOU DON'T WANT JASMINE SCENTED SEX WITH IMMIGRANTS YOU ARE A NAZI" while the far-right literally overtake the Establishment in polling because they actually address working class concerns.
You can see this as well with the rise of genuine antisemitism, Left censored the debate on Jews so hard, that when it turns out, shock horror, duplicitous religious psychopaths, are in fact, duplicitious religious psychopaths in a way everyone can BRAZENLY SEE, then it's the far-right who are the only ones with a narrative. Despite the fact, Christians and Muslims are also duplicitous religious psychopaths and push their bad faith bullshit as well, but because the far-right control the narrative because they never self-censored, they dominate the debate.
It's just wild to me, that Leftists, on sites like .orge, can't even engage in good faith debate, without crying for banhammer. They do realize that Banhammers don't actually exist in real life right?
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▶ No.490292>>490293

>>490251
I dunno but it's very frustrating for me as a free speech absolutist on the left, I feel like there is no community for me on the internet. Right wingers are retarded on most issues so even if you're not censored you will be mobbed by pure idiocy if you talk about stuff like economics, but left wing communities are like a minefield where any small transgression against one of their sacred cows will end up with you expelled entirely.
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▶ No.490293

>>490292
There's not such thing as a free speech "absolutist", don't fall into that propaganda trap. You're either for speech without qualifications or you're not a free speech advocate.
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>>490291
>This topic is controversial in certain marxist spaces because people are very attached to ideas of productivism in marxism.
Marx said that when a mode of production becomes a fetter on the productive forces that's when material forces impose a change in the mode of production. As example he states that feudalism was holding back industrial productive forces that's ultimately the reason why it was changed into capitalism (and in some places into a soviet style industrial system).
You would have a very hard time arguing that productivism isn't central to marxism. Pay attention that productivism in marxism means that a given amount of labor-time gives you more use-value. Capitalists have a looser definition where they make no distinction between more efficient production processes and simply making people work longer for the same pay. Marxists genuinely consider the latter as lowering productivity, which is the polar opposite of how bourgeois economics sees it.

We have to take into account the physics perspective, specifically statistical mechanics and thermodynamics. That teaches us that configurations of matter that are more effective at maximizing entropy are significantly more likely to exist over those configurations of matter that are worse at entropy-maxing. This is the very reason that life exists at all. If the sun keeps shining at a piece of dirt for long enough, eventually a plant will evolve simply because matter arranged as a plant is better at maxing entropy than matter arranged as bare dirt. (If you care about the physics, atoms jiggle that's called Brownian motion. The jiggling allows atoms to re-arrange at random, the configs that maxes more entropy are more stable, as in less likely to be jiggled into a different config, hence why you end up with the matter-configs that entropy-max real good )

For societies that dynamic holds true. Agrarian societies were displaced by industrial societies because industrial machines were better at maxing entropy. But there is more to this, in nature there are 2 ways of increasing entropy. You can grow trees and deer to increase entropy, but you can also have a big forest-fire. At the level of societies the parrallels are, you can have lots of production or alternatively you can have big wars. In general terms you can increase entropy bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>490295
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If you care about preserving the biosphere, by for example reducing the use of fossil fuels to lower CO² emissions, you have to find a way to displace fossil fuels by going to a method of energy production that makes more energy, (to beat the fossils at entropy-maxing). Nuclear for example could significantly out-compete fossil fuels in terms of how much energy you get, there might be a way to have power-generation eat the plutonium from those nukes, which would shut that box of Pandora's.
90% Renewables + Nuclear isn't hard, with most going to Renewables.
It just requires a smart grid, doing a smart grid, would knock out 50% of energy requirements due to efficiency gains. Through Renewables/Nuclear as well, you knock out the majority of cargo shipping emissions which are used to transport fossil fuels.
Issue is we live in a world where the state has given up to Capitalist logic, so the state doesn't give a shit about electrification of everything and a smart grid. If we had a planned economy, we probably would have largely finished electrification by 2010s and moved onto solving some element of Carbon capture (my suspect this will be done through biohacking plants to make them far more efficient carbon stores)
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▶ No.490297

>>490296
>90% Renewables + Nuclear isn't hard, with most going to Renewables.
I agree with renewables + nuclear is the way to go, but the ratio you suggest is unrealistic. Technically nuclear is renewable too, if you are good enough at nuclear physics. Renewables are excellent for residential and less power intensive sectors of the economy. However for high energy demand industries, it's not suitable. Wind, solar,… capture very dispersed forms of energy, to concentrate all that power to one spot, where a giant industrial machine uses it, you need a giant web of cables. Installing a nuclear power plant is much better for that application.
As for the ratio i think 50/50 green/atomic is probably about right. In the very long run nuclear might become the bigger share because it's got less space constraints, especially if we figure out nuclear fusion.

>It just requires a smart grid, doing a smart grid, would knock out 50% of energy requirements due to efficiency gains.
I don't know what you mean, and i kinda associate the word "smart" with enshitification of electronic gadgets. Something to be avoided. What exactly makes a grid "smart" ? My hunch is that you want to conform energy demand to energy production. Meaning that people have to schedule their energy consumption to happen when the sun shines and the wind blows. People in a society do not behave like members of a orchestra or a dance choreography, they are not going submit to that level of discipline. If you want my advice go for energy storage if possible. It'll also increase grid stability and it will reduce the time pressure on maintenance work.

If you think that efficiency gains reduce power demand, you are wrong, that is demonstrably incorrect. Efficiency gains are obviously nice and very desirable, however they are not a substitute for energy.

>Through Renewables/Nuclear as well, you knock out the majority of cargo shipping emissions which are used to transport fossil fuels.
Most oil and gas gets transported through pipelines. But you could do cargoships with nuclear reactors or sails (or the more efficient rotor-sails, which are spinning tubes instead of big sheets of fabric). I will admit that nuclear reactors would have to be idiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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▶ No.487320[Reply]

when it will be over for eu

what do you think on european union in general
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>>487531
do you think normal tanks aren't like that ?
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>>487535
actually gas ballons explode rather not violently so if you mount them some where outside in the save place (at the top)
they most likely won't damage a tank (at least the polymer ones)
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▶ No.487927

So, do I go to Balkan from Portugal then?
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▶ No.490183>>490187

This is so embarrassing…

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1935187633145024933
US Can Incapacitate European Fighter Jets With "the Push of a Button" — Belgian MEP.

Belgian Member of the European Parliament, Marc Botenga has expressed his deep concern over European economic, political and military subservience to the United States, even as the Trump administration threatens to take Greenland from EU and NATO member, Denmark.

He criticized the response from some European officials to spend more money on American weaponry, stating:

"We know that these F-35 fighter jets are controlled by the US. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but it is enough for the US to just push a button for them not to take off. So we are not going to defend our own country or our own continent against the United States with their own weapons.

Botenga, from the Worker's Party of Belgium, has been a member of the European Parliament since 2019.
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▶ No.490187

>>490183
I don't know how to think about this.

At one level this means the F35 has a design defect. Because this, lets call it "remote kill switch" probably can be figured out and used by others, not just the US, so the F35 might at some point not work at all. Considering that Iran might have shot down one or several F35 jets, that might happen depending on how intact the wreckage is.

The other level is that yeah it was not very clever to buy this. To be fair sometime weapons systems are bought to be reverse engineered.

Anyway based Botenga for pointing the finger at Fighter DRM

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If you are not posting on 4chan you are failing as a leftist in the most fundemental way possible. Right now there is a huge opportunity to use the market crash and consequential recession that is coming to turn a lot of dissolusioned right wingers over to our side. To the side of truth, reason and sanity. I post on /b/ at the very least when a thread comes up revolving around trump and go on pol daily. We have to be where they are. We cannot just keep sequestering ourselves off in our hug boxes all the time. You have to be posting on 4chan as well.
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>>490144
>Tony Blair
What if we told you there's nothing about this guy that is "left"? Would you meet us at our level so we can have a productive conversion, or will you do the usual thing where you continue arguing against a straw man?
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>>490145
>What if we told you there's nothing about this guy that is "left"?

>Social democracy is a social, economic, and political philosophy within socialism[1] that supports political and economic democracy and a gradualist, reformist, and democratic approach toward achieving social equality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

If belonging to a tradition within socialism makes someone a leftist, then Blair is a leftist. It's like right wingers trying to claim that someone like Angela Merkel wasn't actually right wing because she wasn't literally Hitler reborn.
>okay but it's not REAL socialism, chud!
>okay, but it's not REAL conservatism, leftie!
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▶ No.490152>>490153

>>490151
But sure, I'd love to hear about how Blair totally isn't a leftist.
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>>490152
>>490151
Blair was a Thatcherite Neoliberal who ran as Labour, retard. His policies were rejections of previous party stances.
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>>490153
Right, fair enough, that quote does seem to be legit, so I guess I could've been wrong, but that still doesn't change the fact that multiculturalism and open borders are leftist policies (as in, most people today who would consider themselves socialists, communists, whatever, support those things).

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▶ No.489544[Reply]

<Uhm, I promise, uhm, to the multinational Russian people, uhm, that the trains, um, WILL go on time.
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>>489967
>"The Chinese" are not a monolithic hivemind
Nobody said so.
>nor are they an actual democracy whose government policies can be said to be directed by the workers.
Chinese workers have rising wages, that means they must have political power.

>The Chinese state is an electoral oligarchy
No that ain't it, the people in China you consider oligarchs, did try to get political power in the 2000s, a bunch of them got executed as a result. Nominally the Chinese state resembles a ML-type leadership democracy, of note is that decision making in their system is relatively decentralized, which is unusual.

>ultimately governed by the iron law of value
This is true for every system, socialist systems also have a law of value, just not the same as the capitalist one.

> If it make sense for a private capitalist or a government bureaucrat to pursue exploitation abroad because it enhances their profitability, then they will try to make it happen.
It doesn't make sense, look at the dustbin of history that contains all the fallen empires.

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>>489981
>No that ain't it, the people in China you consider oligarchs, did try to get political power in the 2000s, a bunch of them got executed as a result. Nominally the Chinese state resembles a ML-type leadership democracy, of note is that decision making in their system is relatively decentralized, which is unusual.
Anon, you've got to disabuse yourself of liberal propagandistic notions of what the modern republic is. Oligarchy is not "that thing that comes with capitalism or some previous system", it is simply rule by the few. Elections are not democracy. They are fundamentally oligarchic in nature because they always have and always will select from only that stratum of society able to run for office in the first place. Failure to recognize the role of electoral oligarchies in reinforcing class rule will only lead once more to the tragedies of the sabotage and repeal of the soviet experiments.

>a ML-type leadership democracy
This especially is completely Orwellian gibberish. If you want to defend vanguardism as a necessary and useful tool to transition from a revolution to socialism that's fine, but please don't pretend it resembles actual democracy. The point of vanguardism, ostensibly, is to lead the proles to democracy. Not to give up and settle for an obviously oligarchic system where a class of bureaucrats jockey for power and direct the economy.
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▶ No.490008>>490019

>>489982
>Anon, you've got to disabuse yourself of liberal propagandistic notions of what the modern republic is. Oligarchy is not "that thing that comes with capitalism or some previous system", it is simply rule by the few. Elections are not democracy. They are fundamentally oligarchic in nature because they always have and always will select from only that stratum of society able to run for office in the first place.
Xi Jinping (China's current head of state) started out as a peasant that did manual labor in the fields.
That's pretty good in terms of social mobility. China's political system requires politicians to rise up through the system, they start out in their local government. That always struck me as somewhat more favorable in terms of regular people having the chance to get into high offices.

I don't know why you think that China is an electoral democracy, it's clearly not and they don't describe their system as such either. They call it deliberative democracy.

>This especially is completely Orwellian gibberish.
Leadership democracy is not a term I've made up to befuddle you with double-speak, I've seen other Marxists use it.

> If you want to defend vanguardism as a necessary and useful tool to transition from a revolution to socialism that's fine, but please don't pretend it resembles actual democracy. The point of vanguardism, ostensibly, is to lead the proles to democracy. Not to give up and settle for an obviously oligarchic system where a class of bureaucrats jockey for power and direct the economy.
The Chinese consider their current system as lowerstage socialism, they have a different name tho, something along the lines of "building towards a moderately prosperous society". That seems to imply that they intent to change their system once a higher stage becomes available, so they kinda agree with you a little bit.

I don't get the impression their economic plans represents the dictatorship of the "bureaucrat-jockeys". THey generally appear to

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▶ No.490019>>490067

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Social mobility doesn't refute the point about elections selecting from a limited stratum of society. Cicero was a so-called novus homo, a "new man", who came from a plebian family which never had political power but he rose to become the most notorious slum lord of the late Roman Republic as well as senator and consul. Traditionally, access to the senate and consulship was so ossified that only established patrician families remained in power throughout generations, so it was often a sensation when a new family rose to power. Did that make Rome any less of an oligarchy? Of course not.

Despite some pretentious "developments" in the naval-gazing profession of political science, "oligarchy" is not about social mobility or even how much inequality a political system has. Is it simply a form of government where a limited group of people rule. Is it true that oligarchy can reinforce class rule? Very much so, classes that already have advantages over another can utilize that advantage to select for themselves in electoral systems. Then, once they're in government, they can implement policies that further privilege themselves. Not only have we seen this trend throughout history since the Greeks coined the term, but it's also been the clear case in "socialist" countries of the contemporary period. Again and again, oligarchic systems of government have privileged the already-existing power of a bureaucratic "state capitalist" class which eventually used them to undermine and overturn the very system they were supposed to defend. Many of the modern "oligarchs" of post-Soviet countries were in fact former Soviet bureaucrats who took the chance to privatize state infrastructure that the originally administered. "Oligarchs" in this sense is a vulgar distortion of the term's original meaning though. Everyone in office in an electoral system is by original definition an oligarch.

>i think we have a word-contest where you try to say China bad, and i try to say China not bad.
This is an unfortunate way to interpret this exchange and it seems to be biasing you against a more important, more fundamental discussion of forms of government and how they interact with capitalism. We don't need to play out another round of Neocons vs Idolized Foreign Country Defense Force here.

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>>490019
Ok you are using the text-book definition of oligarchy. The most common interpretation these days however is that oligarchs are just the biggest capitalists who have captured the keys to power.

As far as china is concerned, i will say again, Chinese workers have rising wages, rising standards of living, and so on. That means they must have political power/influence.

>This is an unfortunate way to interpret this exchange and it seems to be biasing you against a more important, more fundamental discussion of forms of government and how they interact with capitalism. We don't need to play out another round of Neocons vs Idolized Foreign Country Defense Force here.
As long as there are all those neocons and similar creatures lurking around looking to provoke more wars, everything goes through the filter of avoiding anything that can be used to manufacture consent for wars. Find a way of criticizing our political structures in the west in a way that it can't be co-opted by the neocons. I don't want a repeat of freedom-bombs democracy-bombs and human-rights-bombs.

>I like discussing forms of government because I think it is a critical blind spot that the organized Left has ignored for something like 150 years now. Marx himself grew up in a time when the Orwellian inversion of the meaning of "democracy" had already happened thanks to leaders of the French and American revolutions. Ever since his time the Left has far too often assumed uncritically that the modern electoral republic is an inherently good thing and a natural vehicle for socialism if an ideologically-driven party can simply seize power.
If you want to argue that in the west we should try out a Sortition democracy, that's worth a try, the current political systems don't appear to be working, and there might be material conditions for changing that. But that advocacy has to be tied to the west. There cannot be anything that is usable for undermining foreign governments. What China's government is supposed to be is for the Chinese to decide. Not just for the sake of letting other countries have sovereignty, but also to avoid systemic criticism getting diverted to talking about other countries, instead of our systems.

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Israeli military says four soldiers killed in Gaza, will draft 10,000 more troops
Israel's military announced Friday the deaths of four soldiers in Gaza, saying it needed thousands more troops to press its offensive, just as the premier's coalition faces the prospect of collapse over ultra-Orthodox conscription. News of the soldiers' deaths came as Gaza's civil defence agency reported 38 killed Friday in Israeli attacks across the territory, where Palestinians observed the Eid al-Adha holiday under the shadow of war for a second consecutive year.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250606-israel-army-announces-4-soldiers-killed-in-gaza-thousands-more-troops-needed
https://archive.ph/20nfN

Conference to recognise Palestinian state to weaken scope of its ambition, diplomats say
The change to the aims of the conference, due to be held between 17 and 20 June, marks a retreat from an earlier vision that it would mark a joint declaration of recognition of Palestine as a state by a large group of countries, including permanent UN security council members France and the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/07/saudi-arabia-conference-to-recognise-palestinian-state-weakens-scope-ambition-diplomats-say

Colombia: Judge Orders Senate Vote Repetition After Fraud in Popular Consultation, Highlights Petr
The judicial order responds to evidence that Senate President Efraín Cepeda prevented three congress members who supported the Popular Consultation from exercising their right to vote, altering the final result and violating democratic participation rights. Petro called this act a fraud and an attack against democracy and popular sovereignty.
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California officials decry union leader’s arrest amid renewed Ice raids and protests
During Friday’s protests at a federal detention facility in downtown LA, David Huerta, the president of the California branch of the Service Employees International Union, was arrested amid a police response that included teargas and flash-bangs. Huerta, who was injured and detained, released a statement to the Los Angeles Times from the hospital, saying: “What happened to me is not about me. This is about something much bigger.” “This is about how we as a community stand together and resist the injustice that’s happening. Hard-working people, and members of our family and our community, are being treated like criminals. We all collectively have to object to this madness because this is not justice,” he added.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/immigration-raids-los-angeles

Tesla seeks to block city of Austin from releasing records on robotaxi trial
Austin public-information officer Dan Davis told Reuters on April 1 that “third parties” had asked the city to withhold the records to protect their “privacy or property interests.” Austin officials on April 7 requested an opinion on the news agency’s request from the Texas Attorney General’s office, which handles public-records disputes.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-seeks-block-city-austin-releasing-records-robotaxi-trial-2025-06-06/

A US territory’s colonial history emerges in state disputes over voting and citizenship
In what experts describe as an unprecedented case, Alaska prosecutors are pursuing felony charges against 11 residents of Whittier, most of them related to one another, saying they falsely claimed U.S. citizenship when registering or trying to vote. The defendants were all born in American Samoa, an island cluster in the South Pacific roughly halfway between Hawaii and New Zealand. It’s the only U.S. territory where residents are not automatically granted citizenship by virtue of having been born on American soil, as the Constitution dictates.
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HOUDINI: Mutual Aid Organizations | Some Thoughts on Hierarchy and the Creation of It Within Our Own Organizations
As some of you may know, I am a big fan of mutual aid as my primary form of organizing. I think going into your community, providing for the people, trying to build intentional communities, trying to give back to the people—going amongst the masses, doing good works—I do believe that is one of the most effective ways to bolster your connections to your community, connections to your neighborhood, connections to other people. Find new people who are allies. It's just a great starting point. And I think it's something that anyone can do, and it's a nonviolent logistical form of resistance that is infrastructure-focused on action. I'm a big fan of it. That said, I've learned many things in my time, whether it has been going and physically handing out meal kits, safety kits, and hygiene kits to people, or actually working at pop-up soup kitchens, or free fridge programs, what have you. I've learned some things, and I think that we're missing some of the points with mutual aid. Maybe I'm going to come off a little bit too ruthless here, but we are creating hierarchies in our own organizations, and we are effectively doing charity, not mutual aid community building.
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A health care industry giant’s Wall Street overlords just admitted that the company’s sky-high health insurance coverage denial rates reaped them enormous profits — and to keep the money flowing, they’re suing to stop the insurer from approving more patient care. UnitedHealth Group has been facing growing discontent from its investors, a battle that — as the corporation faces mounting public scrutiny over its care denials — could shape the future of health insurance for 29 million people. A May 7 lawsuit brought by a small-time investor in UnitedHealth Group is one of the latest chapters in the battle, arguing that the company’s tanking stock performance this spring had cost its investors unfairly. Some corporate media rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>489926
>The corporation was one of the first insurers to come under fire for using artificial intelligence tools to deny care.
Does that mean that patients need to use AI tools to request care ? As in have AI brute force millions of requests until it figures out by trial and error how to get care requests approved.

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>be me
>get yelled at by progressives for complaining about forced diversity, DEI, neopronouns, furfags and feminazis
>get yelled at by conservatives for supporting LGBT, Palestinians, migrants and socialist economics
>get yelled at by everyone for being an anarcho-individualist
That's it, I'm done with the Internet.
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>>489859
Why do people want licensing for everything except for procreation?
Why do people allow incompetent parents to breed?

At this point, "eugenics" is just an indignatory remark.

People have no problem with putting trackers on their kids.

People have no problem with background screening for employment.
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>>489863
>Because socialist nations have never, EVER, engaged in nationalism, EVER.
Well, the leaders of these so-called "socialist nations" would constantly shit on council communists, mutualists and anarcho-communists anyway so… I guess it depends on what we mean by the word "socialism" then.
>>489862
>Under the current system, immigration IS forced diversity
Neither did immigrants vote for their country to be empoverished by imperialism but whatever. I don't have a definitive stance on immigration (anti-immigration is peak reformism anyway) and I do understand the grievances of white workers but, like, immigrants are people too. I don't think treating them like literal savages is coolio. I think we should try to build bridges instead and attack the core cause of illegal immigration instead of attacking immigrants themselves.
>Yeah, cause they both operate on fear, which is a fascist tactic.
I'm not scared of LGBT, I just think hating queers is silly, counterproductive and irrational. When it comes to feminazis then sure but LGBT isn't even an ideology, the same way "leftism" isn't. Or are you implying that your ideas are the same as those of radlibs, ancoms and Strasserites?
>You're just retarded.
Not an argument, you're retarded for saying this. Only retards throw insults when they have nothing to add.
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>>489871
>Why do people allow incompetent parents to breed?
Conservative propaganda. They think more children = good and less children = bad.
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>anarcho-individualist
Oh you're retarded
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>>489879
>Oh you're retarded
The picrel is you.

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▶ No.489878[Reply]>>489880

Saw this comment on the Internet:

Someone pointed out that
>wealth inequality in America is actually worse than pre-revolutionary France and Russia
And someone else replied:
>America is too powerful militarily to have a revolution

And I realized that leftists have really not addressed this in sufficient capacity.

The implication here is that if we're going to be fighting a revolution, the entire might of the US military would be opposing us.

Saw this comment on the Internet:

Someone pointed out that
>wealth inequality in America is actually worse than pre-revolutionary France and Russia
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>>489878
>And I realized that leftists have really not addressed this in sufficient capacity.
Read more history
Tsar Nick N°2 send his navy to attack Japan, they got their asses whooped, the Russian navy felt betrayed and switched allegiance to Lenin and the Bolsheviks. It's called the battle of Tsushima (spelling might be wrong).

>The implication here is that if we're going to be fighting a revolution, the entire might of the US military would be opposing us.
Well the US rulers want to attack China, that could be their battle of Tsushima moment.
Basically get the soldiers to join your side. When a ruling class sends their military into battles they can't win, this all of a sudden becomes very doable.

>I think this is very likely true. And if it's true then it is the single best explanation for why there is no political movement in the US:
If all the workers go on strike, and hide in a hole somewhere, all that military power does nothing.
The real reason why lefty political movements have a hard time in the US, is because imperial super profits enable the imperial bourgoisie to continue extracting profits from their imperial periphery while their domestic workers go on strike. That means they can weather these strikes, they continue to have transnational revenue during strikes which they can use to pay for political repression.

Lenin realized this and basically decided that revolution had to happen in the periphery first in order to break that dynamic. He was mostly correct. During the period of anti-colonial liberation, the British empire lost virtually all of it's colonies and as a result the labor movement in the UK got very strong.

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>>489880
Based and informed reply.

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