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 No.472619[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are the political implications of the world's first presidential mugshot? What will happen if he's convicted?
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 No.473259

>>473060
>Muh magatards
>I'm not psyoped, you're psyoped x 10
What a faggot
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 No.473261

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 No.473283

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 No.484994

He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power. Dems poll awful against almost every candidate except Trump.
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 No.485025

>>484994
>He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power.
Convict him of what? After 8 years of investigations and impeachments and lies and propaganda they ended up convicting him of putting a business expense in the wrong tax category. The only rational explanation at this point as to why the richest and most powerful people in the establishment hate him so much is precisely because he is so clean they have nothing to blackmail him with.


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 No.483825[Reply]

In only six months, Sahra Wagenknecht's new party has BTFO'd the remnants of Die Linke and is already the 3rd most popular party in recent German state elections in Thuringia and Saxony. Is she gonna do it, anons? Can Germany be saved after all?
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 No.484465

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>itt hazoid larpers
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 No.484466

>>484465
>if a shit eating e-celeb has the same views as you, you now have to reject them
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 No.484983

>>483870
climate change deniers get the bullet

immigrant dehumanizers get the bullet

especially since the former phenomenon causes the latter
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 No.485007

>>484465
This has to be a shitpost from him, bacause ive definitely laughed, didnt know this guy
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 No.485023

>>484983
>climate change deniers get the bullet
>immigrant dehumanizers get the bullet
If you actually lost access to fossil fuel energy and had to share your food and living space with migrants you would change your opinions in a heartbeat. You only support this shit as long as it's not costing you anything.


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 No.484627[Reply]

Iran is bombing Israel. what do you think? I stand iran.
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 No.484731

>>484726
>If I was the leader of Iran and the US assured me that I could retaliate and the US wouldn't attack me, it would have little bearing on what decision I made.
I think the previous case of a "choreographed theatrical retaliation" where the Iran negotiated the details and timetables of the attack with the US could have become a blue-print for defusing escalations. While in the end it did not work, it was definitely worth the attempt of turning war-fare in a spectacle without much real destruction. It's a shame the jedi-mind trick didn't work on the warmongers.

Iran now seems to be aiming for a strategy of degrading Israel's offensive capabilities. Like damaging air-bases. While they currently are on a wave cadence, I think they'll end up on a constant slow attrition strategy that puts pressure on Isreal's re-supply. The US and most of the western weapons industry is having difficulties of organizing timely production of those very complex weapons systems, because of the neo-liberally eroded industrial base. Slowly depleting the offensive potential also was the strategy of the Russians during the middle part of the Russian-Nato-proxy-war in Ukraine.
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 No.484734

>>484731
History does not repeat nor tolerate the present state Israel wishes to impose on it.

With what Iran is building up, I would not be surprised if they flatten Israel and rain hellfire, and US looks the other way.
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 No.484763

>>484734
I don't think Iran really intends to "flatten" Isreal. They're looking for deterrence primarily, and if they can't have that they'll attempt to destroy Isreal's capacity to attack other countries in the region, while preserving Isreal's viability as a state.

They do have the fire-power to obliterate Isreal, but that won't come into play unless Isreal tries to use nukes. Some of the ultra Zionist hardliners want to use nukes in Lebanon, not because it serves a military objective, but rather as an attempt to intimidate.

If that happens Iran would switch it's economy to a war-time command economy, begin underground nuclear weapons testing and start continuously hammering Israel with conventional weapons, this time with the aim of destroying Isreal's viability as a state. I.d.k. if the US pulls out and looks away, but it's definitely possible, it's not worth it for the US to throw down on behalf of Israel, not economically and especially not politically.

At the moment this scenario is not very likely, the US military probably would act resolutely to frustrate any use of nuclear weapons they haven't approved. The other factor, as Alexander Mercouris puts it: "Russia's long shadow descending upon the middle east", is changing the power equation in a major way.
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 No.484797

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<484627
>i support one militant anticommunist hellhole against the other militant anticommunist hellhole, in words
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 No.485011

>>484797
What's grosser than the turd was the way the foreskin was peeling outward over the glans.
Also, something tells me that turd was fake.


 No.483169[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>481432

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 39,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll, and excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

Reports in the Israeli press confirmed that the IDF implemented a 'mass Hannibal Directive' on October 7th, knowingly and purposefully killing many of its civilians and turning the Gaza border into an 'extermination zone' to prevent hostages from being taken alive.

The US Congress invited Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak. Tens of thousands demonstrated in DC, blockaded roads, and pulled mischief at the Watergate Hotel, but apparently failed to arrest Netanyahu for war crimes. Many were met with pepper spray and tear gas. At least 96 congress members boycotted the speech. Ahead of the visit, the Center for Constitutional Rights called for the DOJ to investigate Netanyahu for genocide, war crimes, and torture as required by US law. Simultaneous demonstrations occurred in other parts of the US and Canada.

A deal for a "national unity government" between the Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas was brokered in Beijing.

The International Court of Justice issued an advisory opinion on the legal status of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories, as requested in 2022. It found that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid, its occupation is illegal, and its activity in Gaza & the West Bank has continued to constitute a de facto occupation even after the IDF ostensibly withdrew in the '00s. It also confirmed that supporting Israeli apartheid and illegal occupation is illegal.

Yemeni Houthi attacks on shipping, in solidarity with Gaza, have continued, nearly shutting down the Israeli port of Eilat. A Yemeni drone struck a building near the US embassy branch office in Tel Aviv on July 19th. This was followed by direct Israeli airstrikes on the Yemeni port of Hodeidah.

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 No.484981

>>484978
<There were reportedly 15 people in the house, seven of them children, including the man’s mother, a lawful permanent resident of the United States.

<In an effort to rescue the survivors, the family contacted Israeli authorities, providing them with the residential address and GPS coordinates of their home to arrange for the safe passage of an ambulance. However, the Israeli military apparently used that information to bomb the house a second time and then targeted the ambulance as it attempted to rescue the survivors, killing the doctor and several children.

They bombed the house a second time to make sure nobody digs out a US passport out of the rubble, also spite.

The moral of the story is that if you give GPS coordinates to the Israeli and tell them a story about people in need, they will bomb those coordinates. That is a critical operational flaw in the Israeli military. Because it means that some random schmuck can direct where they drop bombs. That includes feeding them bogus targets to just make them waste ammo pounding inert rubble.

Blumenthal was right Zionism makes people stupid.

A sophisticated adversary that can coordinate complex operations might be able to manipulate them to bomb their own soldiers. If they pick a real fight with Iran …
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 No.484982

>>484980
You are correct in your historical analysis, but the experience of the last 20 years probably has eliminated the possibility of consent for another middle eastern war.
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 No.484988

>>484980
Yeah this.

>>484982
They're 100% about to try it and will go through with it within the next year provided they aren't stopped through direct action & mass organization. Propaganda can be very powerful, there will be a lot of people going war-mad over night. It actually will be ill-advised… like, most people still will not want war with Iran, but most people aren't in command of the US military. We're about to see some more really horrible shit going down.
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 No.484989

https://twitter.com/simpleesimi/status/1846107815900778924
Snipers on the roof at Israel vs. Italy game.
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 No.484997

New thread: >>484995


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 No.471056[Reply]

Isn't it funny that Cornel West runs third party but the best the mainstream parties can do is 2 rapists, a Guantanamo Bay torturer (so probably also a rapist), and a recovering dope fiend?
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 No.484970

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>>484965
>it's like voting for Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
Over Eugene Debs?
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 No.484971

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>>484965
>it's like voting for Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
The comparison is actually more on the nose than you probably realize. In the sense that Teddy's campaign in 1912 was another one of those celebrity campaigns relying entirely on the popularity and reknown of the candidate to generate excitement. Teddy's presidential run in 1912 was the closest anyone has ever gotten to breaking through the two-party system in the US. And what happened when he failed to win? His Progressive Party collapsed overnight. Eugene Debs's Socialist Party, on the other hand, thrived for about another decade as an organized grassroots party until they fractured in response to the Russian Revolution.

Cornel West is a celebrity candidate without even an organized party behind him, and much like Roosevelt, whatever "organization" he'll have built during his campaign is going to collapse the moment he loses.

Why would you support this kind of celebrity-oriented, in-the-moment electoralism when it has been a demonstrable failure over and over throughout US history?
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 No.484975

>>484970
I prefer Roosevelt to Debs.

>>484971
Because like Roosevelt or Debs he is a candidate who I feel is exceptional. I don't care if his organization won't continue to live on. Because even if it did live on after his loss I doubt it'd ever be able to break through the two party system.
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 No.484976

You know what would scare the shit out of the elites? If no one shows up to their "elections".
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 No.484977

>>484975
>I prefer Roosevelt to Debs.
So you're not a leftist.


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 No.484881[Reply]

He blow all gold bug, UBI, and debt hawk arguments to smithereens. Including those ones adopted by Milton Friedman loving "anarchists". Also why is the left so impotent in America that it took the founder of "III Capital Management" to do this for us?
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 No.484944

>>484941
>If you wanted to end monopolies, it would start with circumventing their actions.
As far as the cure for that high blood-sugar ailment is concerned, it already happened. The pharma monopolies couldn't prevent Chinese scientists from inventing this, so they got circumvented. I mean if it's half as good as the early results are suggesting, it'll get used by pretty much everyone who's afflicted no matter what the monopolists do.
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 No.484951

>>484894
UBI in a capitalist system will just make them raise prices to compensate. If they know they can exploit people harder then they will, like how they used COVID as an excuse to jack up prices.
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 No.484952

>>484951
That is true, but that could be counteracted by price controls. If there were enough people who depended on UBI, the politics would likely change and price-controls would happen to some extend.

I don't know if that development would be desirable, and my point is that there's always a counter tendency.
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 No.484959

>>484952
The idea people are natural entrepreneurs who love using money and starting small businesses just b because they are given free money is retarded.

The state forcing people to work is the only reason people are even using USD.
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 No.484960

>>484959
>The idea people are natural entrepreneurs who love using money
I guess you're not wrong. Monetary thinking definitely does not come natural to most people, it has to be drilled into people. The least unnatural form of accounting might be counting labor-time and material resources.

But i do think that there is something like an entrepreneurial spirit, but in a more general sense of trying to organize groups of people to build something. There is extreme ideological distortion going on of course. And in some sense, neo-liberal talk about entrepreneurs is double-speak, because what their system does is deeply demoralizing to what they have identified as the entrepreneurial subject.

>The state forcing people to work is the only reason people are even using USD.

The state and taxation plays a role by forcing everybody to use the same money, but MMT makes claims that go much further than that.

Marx makes three statements about money
1. it's the universal commodity
2. it's controle over labor-time
3. it's a veil that obfuscates the real social relations

Maybe we could simplify the differences between Marx and MMT thusly:
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 No.484932[Reply]

Was Saddam Hussein a socialist? If he is a socialist, what is the evidence/proof of this?
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 No.484934

>>484932
I think he might have been part of the Baathists (not sure how that's spelled) which is usually considered Arab socialism.

When the neocons did the Iraq war around 2003, he kinda was trying to spend oil revenue on social programs and economic development. That is standard socialist doctrine for resource rich countries, but also not that different from bourgeois national liberation. It kinda looks like that might have triggered the neocon war because the imperial system wanted to keep Iraq as an undeveloped resource extraction unit. Not sure, there's other potential explanations that also make sense.

There is a peculiar footnote of history. I think Saddam also hired a famous American engineer to design and build absolutely giant cannons that could potentially reach Israel. He was buying lots of massive machined metal cylinder segments, which kinda raised some eyebrows. The engineer guy was mainly interested in building mass-drivers for catapulting bulk material into low earth orbit, and this was the only available big-ass-cannon-gig. The CIA or some other 3-letter agency had him assassinated, probably.

I think the Soviets may also have supported Saddam at some point, which is kinda weird, so maybe they thought he was socialist.

TLDR maybe not sure
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 No.484938

>>484932
No.

>>484934
He was Baath, but actual-existing Baath is more like a form of Arab nationalism. I think Saddam operated a kind of heavily-regulated mixed economy. Baathism was nominally socialist, but so is India.

>There is a peculiar footnote of history. I think Saddam also hired a famous American engineer to design and build absolutely giant cannons that could potentially reach Israel. He was buying lots of massive machined metal cylinder segments, which kinda raised some eyebrows. The engineer guy was mainly interested in building mass-drivers for catapulting bulk material into low earth orbit, and this was the only available big-ass-cannon-gig. The CIA or some other 3-letter agency had him assassinated, probably.

Vid related.

>I think the Soviets may also have supported Saddam at some point, which is kinda weird, so maybe they thought he was socialist.

The US and UK supported him too.


 No.484519[Reply]

what is to be done about the masses of sheeple who always do whatever the empire tells them to do? how are we supposed to organize in solidarity with vaxies who support vax mandates? how am I supposed to deal with people who vote in support of genocidal zionist politicians like Harris, Trump, and Kennedy even though it's clear they are screwing their own voters regardless? what are we supposed to do about the brainwashed, bloodthirsty psychos who support the global 4th reich?
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 No.484573

Hypnotherapy is not a trivial thing. It is impossible to undo the damage by any re-education. There is only managing the livestock once it takes root. No "awakening" changes this once they internalize this many lies, in the way they were made to do so.
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 No.484574

That said, compliance is no longer an option, and all of the compliance with COVID was premised on fear and marking down the enemies of the "Jehad". It was inevitable after what you allowed to happen in the 1990s. The eugenists brag that you were operating the death camps and couldn't stop them. A Satanic race cannot change.
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 No.484586

Propaganda is a helluva drug, but good teaching and persuasion principles apply here. Use the Socratic Method, lean into evidence whenever possible, develop a habit of tactfully reminding people when their assertions haven't been supported enough to be arguments. When someone realizes that they can't support their own beliefs in a friendly, non-confrontational setting, that's when the conditioning starts to break down.
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 No.484590

Have you consodered tgat most sheeple are "truthseekers" like you and hence why theyre the easiest to dupe?

The game of mass deception is avhievable because of "alternative" media.
Most "alternative" media spreads the same biases as their respective mainstream counterparts.

In fact, alot of alternative news media are indirectly corporately owned.

Even if not, most "truthseekers" are unable to read further than pop culture cliches.
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 No.484919

>>484586
I've found more common ground with conservative and libertarians than the liberal types where I live. Libs will smugly and self-righteously support literal fascism and talking to them has been largely a waste of my time and a test of my patience.


 No.484817[Reply]

Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov speaking at the UN General Assembly just recently. Pretty good speech imo. What do you think?
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 No.484859

>>484839
cope
They lie a little like re-labeling war as a "special military operation" but they're right about the big picture stuff, like NATO-east-expansion being the trigger for the war in Ukraine.
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 No.484870

>>484859
His critiques of the west are generally the strongest points.
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 No.484880

>>484839
This is how Democrats unironically think.
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 No.484890

>some cuck is getting paid 0.01 cents for making threads like this
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 No.484908

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>>484890
>thinking I get paid to post news to leftychan


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 No.484694[Reply]

>One of the most significant pieces of evidence is the testimony of Otto Ernst Remer. In a 1997 interview, Remer admitted that he had received Soviet backing during his time in the party. Remer stated that he had met with KGB officials in East Berlin and had received financial and logistical support from the Soviet Union.[13] In addition to Remer's testimony, there are other sources of evidence that support the claim that the Soviet Union supported the SRP. For example, a 1953 KGB memo outlines the agency's efforts to cultivate and support right-wing extremist groups in Germany, including the SRP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Reich_Party


What the hell guys, I thought the USSR was heckin anti-fascist???? What gives???
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 No.484860

>>484704
>They want everyone to think "both sides bad" and that Stalin was as bad as Hitler etc.
Stalin was way worse than Hitler. In terms of bodycount alone Stalin killed more of his own people before WW2 even started than Hitler ever did. The only reason Stalin and the USSR get a free pass is because they were on "our side" during the war.

>Doing a little reading will show you that they are in fact opposites and that Nazis are closer to Americans than the USSR

Whatever book told you that WW2 was America + Germany vs Russia was /pol/ fanfiction. Read a real book.

>what you just regurgitated is CIA propaganda

CIA propaganda is the reason you have a mini heart attack when you see a swastika but the hammer and sickle or red and black flags are completely socially acceptable to parade around in public.

>>484706
>National "socialism" should be called fascism, and yes its more or less opposite to socialism.
Decentralized free market capitalism is the opposite of socialism. Centralizing the entire means of production under the state because "muh proletariat" is not the opposite of centralizing the entire means of production under the state because "muh aryan race". Doing the same shit for different reasons doesn't make you opposites.

>>484722
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 No.484861

>>484860
It's apparent that (like many of us once were) you're the victim of propaganda anon. I hope some day you'll open your eyes and look around.
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 No.484867

>>484860
>Stalin was way worse than Hitler. In terms of bodycount alone Stalin killed more of his own people before WW2 even started than
Name them, inb4 holo
Stalin ordered grain sent as soon as the scale of the famine was evident to him just as he did during an Indian famine.
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 No.484873

my cock supports ur mom
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 No.484877

>>484860
>Stalin was way worse than Hitler
That's what they want you to think. Do you really think that the people who privately own everything in America aren't doing everything in their power to make sure you don't consider communism as an alternative to their system?

>Whatever book told you that WW2 was America + Germany vs Russia was /pol/ fanfiction. Read a real book.

They were not allies during WW2 but it's true that Hitler had a portrait of Henry Ford in his office and that after WW2 Americans gave Nazis high ranking positions (as scientists, head of NATO, etc) while the USSR executed them.


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