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File: 1673230552879.jpg (33.94 KB, 1100x619, Ana Montes.jpg)

 No.463927[Reply]

>“Montes betrayed our nation, but not for money. In fact, she never received payment for any of her actions – astonishingly, she was motivated purely by hatred for America,” Rubio wrote in an op-ed penned for Americano Media.
GIGA BASED

‘Queen of Cuba’ spy released from US jail
Ana Montes, described as “one of the most damaging spies” in US history, has been released from federal prison in Texas. The double agent for Cuba was freed on Friday after more than 20 years in custody, data on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website shows.

Montes, now 65, made a solid career with the US government, initially working for the US Department of Justice before joining the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) back in 1985. She ultimately became a senior intelligence analyst for Cuba –even scoring a nickname the ‘Queen of Cuba’– and worked in this role until her arrest in 2001, days after the 9/11 attacks.

It turned out that Montes had been spying for Cuba throughout her whole government career, as she had been recruited by that country’s intelligence when she was a student at Johns Hopkins University. Officials at the time said it was believed that the Cuban Intelligence Service (CIS) had pushed her to pursue the DIA career in the first place.

As a double agent, Montes is believed to have funneled highly-sensitive information to the CIS for nearly two decades. According to federal charging documents, Montes was very careful, never taking classified information from her work computer but memorizing it instead, as well as using water-soluble, easy to destroy paper to deliver the data to her Cuban handlers.

According to the Bush-era US Counterintelligence head Michelle Van Cleave, Montes has become “one of the most damaging spies the United States has ever found,” who has compromised “virtually everything” Washington knew about Cuba.

In 2002, Montes pleaded guilty to espionage charges which could have carried the death penalty for her, yet was ultimately sentenced to 25 years in prison under a plea deal. According to her lawyers, Montes was primarily motivated for spying by a belief that “the Cubans were treated unfairly by the US government.”
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 No.463979

>>463978
Weak men create hard times
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 No.463982

>>463979
lmao this is the extent of your knowledge on why america is declining? Amazing analysis dumbass
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 No.463985

>>463982
Bro, your schtick is being in poverty and calling other people dumb…..
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 No.464013

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>>463927
Based comrade spy
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 No.464032

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>>463982
I hope this was worth it, anon


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 No.463890[Reply]

>even though Musk has lost more money than any human in history, he won't be going hungry any time soon – he’s still the world’s second-richest person
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 No.464027

>>464022
As it turns out, banging an entrepreneur is a pretty smart financial descision.
Didn't finish reading this because it seemed pointless. The woman seems to have the presence of mind to not complain about the situation.
Makes Elon sound even more based - a man who simply assumes he'll get what he wants, and then who gets it. Not like faggy leftist effeminate men who make sarcastic quips to cope over their perpetual poverty and lack.
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 No.464028

>>464026
Poast gfs weight and bodycount
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 No.464029

>>464028
>U MUST HAVE A GF AT ALL TIMES, OTHERWISE YOU ARE A CUCK SOY
>U MUST BE OVERWEIGHT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT YOU POSTED
>MUH BODYCOUNT


Mr. Right Winger, I'm a non-virgin European individual who also happens to be a Marxist, whose longest romantic relationship went on for 6 years, have a """sex-count""" of above 30+ partners, non-fat, and so on.

I'm just again trying to point out as with >>464026 previously, that your set of premises speak more about your own insecurities (chinlet.jpeg) than of your random opponents online.

Get a life, will you?

Stop licking the boots of individuals of the American bourgeoisie, will you?

cheers, fgt
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 No.464031

>>464029
How's the rapefugees crisis treating you?
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 No.464046

>>464031
Despite being only 13 percent of anons, /pol/acks make up 52% of shitposts.


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 No.455376[Reply]

Are there good arguments for why communists should or should not become entrepeneurs, landlords or investors?
What should the few bourgoisie who find themselves sympathetic to communism be directing their efforts towards?
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 No.463584

>>455376
>Are there good arguments for why communists should or should not become.. landlords?
landlords are scum
and as a social group - a breeding ground for petty bourgeois mentality
if you're making a living by collecting rents - as a commie you should try to transfer accumulated capital into productive sector

>entrepeneurs

depends what you mean by this

if you mean """investing""" and collecting dividends - then no

but if you mean getting into the thick of corporate governance and direct capital-labor interactions - then again, it depends

it depends if you understand that there is a conflict there, and that you will be forced to take sides

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 No.463587

>>463584
>possibly using your unions as a vehicle of wider political organizing
forgot to add that you need to keep union leadership rotating, because they will sell out and backstab your ass if they get entrenched
ultimately strong militant unions are your only support base against shareholders, or their state
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 No.463815

>>455706
>*ussia
Reactionary radioactive shitdump with Zimbabwe-tier resource export characteristics

>hueg economy

Can't even make its own nails due to such total ideological hatred to any kind of industry that even MIC was always under dismantling. Sometimes shitty rushka has to buy band-aid industry from DPRK though but even that is only for acquiring another means for extraction of even more stuff from the mantle.

>super-pooper-level memetary

Literal rapefest. And a means for the generals to always have a ton of cannon meat to send at another Chechnya, head on. And even this was gradually uprooted in favour of gubbermint-issued mercenaries due to their anti-popular sentiment which will guarantee their loyalty in case of any political dissent back at home.

Stop taking this fucktarded colony as a case of some kind of world power already.
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 No.463970

>>463815
>when you can't help but shit up every over thread on the site with your meme politics
go back to your containment thread and stay there forever you fucking chimp
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 No.464006

you shouldn't go out of your way to be a shitbag but you can start your own thing and sell it why the fuck not just don't forget you're an anti-capitalist


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 No.463290[Reply]

you've lost your "leftypedia" wiki domain twice in 2 years without any good excuses. Literally just put it on a cheap VPS and pay off a few years of the domain
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 No.463822

>>463821
Recognizing propaganda is a useful skill every leftist should practice. I already said I don't want an echo chamber.
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 No.463824

>>463822
When there is no clear distinction, recognizing propaganda is not a skill. It's just a premonition.
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 No.463975

>>463290
Leftists are typically incompetent losers who somehow, despite all evidence to the contrary, believe they're hyper intellectual savants.
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 No.463976

>>463529
Nighas here are allergic to success

Being 'leftist' is a faggy in-group orientation and has nothing to do with effecting change or building a movement for such.
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 No.463983

>>463290
So do it? Whats the problem?


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 No.463418[Reply]

>mass genocide taking place by insane serbians
>Multiple attempts at peace from NATO
>only around 1000 civilians died
>stopped a fucking literally genocide

Why was the bombing of Yugoslavia necessary?
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 No.463832

>>463830
>https://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/depleted-uranium/en/l-2/5.htm#0
>opinions
So not actual research, then. Let's read it.
>Outside the laboratory, there is evidence on health effects of lower DU exposures from medical monitoring of Gulf War veterans. Some have embedded DU shrapnel, and have much higher concentrations of uranium in their blood than civilians or soldiers without direct exposure to DU. So far, no serious health effects have been observed after 16 years monitoring.
And the other mention of adverse effects is just eating the stuff. I'm sure you'd have higher lead content in your blood if you had shrapnel in you from a conventional round.
https://deq.utah.gov/waste-management-and-radiation-control/depleted-uranium-energysolutions
>Uranium decays very slowly, with a half-life in the range of millions of years. The decay products of uranium become more radioactive over time due to ingrowth.
>millions of years
Yes, I know. We all know that. You aren't going to live for millions of years, and this is talking about industrial levels of waste DU.
https://www.nrc.gov/waste/llw-disposal/llw-pa/uw-streams/bg-info-du.html
> Additionally, the nature of the radiological hazards associated with DU presents challenges to the estimation of long-term effects from its disposal – namely that its radiological hazard gradually increases due to the ingrowth of decay products, eventually peaking after 1 million years, rather than decreasing significantly over a few hundred years like that of typical LLW.
>1 million years
Yes, we get it. The US government is worried about industrial levels of waste over the long term. Nobody is worried about DU used in munitions.
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 No.463833

>>463828
>That the only way to get it into you is by eating it. You probably heard that shit from an officer and have just been parroting it ever since.
Your own sources say that. You can breathe it if you work in a mine. You're not going to get enough exposure from munitions. And for the record, I'm not in the military, nor have I ever been in.
>Scroll up.
None of your sources said that. You're just lying.
> In fact, why don't you provide a link to one of these studies that you say exists. The VA says that it is dangerous, and they are shelling out money to treat people who were exposed to it. Now, tell me why they are wrong.
The VA is not a scientific body and is an organization that routinely pays out money because of ED and other shit that is not service-related.
>Or you could get it into you in all of the ways that the VA describes.
Yes, by directly having shrapnel inside you. In what way is this more toxic than lead?
>You seem to think that after the round goes through an armor plate that it stays one solid, unsheared chunk. Is that right?
It stays mostly solid. The destructive effects come from heat and other molten metal that is part of the vehicle. DU does break up, but it isn't going to turn into particulate like conventional rounds.
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 No.463837

>>463832
>And the other mention of adverse effects is just eating the stuff.
And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin. Say it with me, "And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin." All of the sources we have looked at have talked about those methods of having uranium introduced into your blood stream.
>this is talking about industrial levels of waste DU
It is talking about how it is not as safe as they had initially thought to store depleted uranium near the surface. How much is "industrial levels?" How much depleted uranium gets produced by power plants in comparison to how much the military rains on a battlefield?
>The US government is worried about industrial levels of waste over the long term. Nobody is worried about DU used in munitions.
Again, in terms of volume what is the difference?
>So Serbian faggots can stop bitching about getting bombed with DU to stop their genocide.
Yeah, they probably did try to cook the study honestly. I remember that investigation.
>And for the record, I'm not in the military, nor have I ever been in.
Really? You talk like a marine, and, no, that is not a compliment. I suppose that would explain why you haven't developed a healthy distrust of anything that the DoD calls "safe." It would also explain why you think that the VA just hands out money without having its arm twisted first.
>You're just lying.
Every last one of them is saying that depleted uranium is more dangerous in theory but that they have not seen it in effect yet in affected soldiers.
>Yes, by directly having shrapnel inside you.
Whaaaat? I thought that you could only eat it.
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 No.463843

>>463837
>And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin. Say it with me, "And breathing it.
Munitions do not create enough particulate for this to be an issue.
>And getting particles imbedded in your skin." All of the sources we have looked at have talked about those methods of having uranium introduced into your blood stream.
So either you work in a Uranium mine or you got hit with DU munitions. I fail to see how this means the US shouldn't use DU munitions or how it was wrong to use them on the former Yugoslavia.
>It is talking about how it is not as safe as they had initially thought to store depleted uranium near the surface.
Yes, over millions of years at industrial levels of waste.
>How much is "industrial levels?" How much depleted uranium gets produced by power plants in comparison to how much the military rains on a battlefield?
From a quick research, the US generates about 2000 metric tons of waste per year. That is what is being stored. The US dropped a total of 15 tons of DU munitions over the whole area. Of course that is offset by the fact that tonnage includes casings and explosives inside the bombs, so it's considerably less.
>Again, in terms of volume what is the difference?
It's a gigantic difference. And no studies have shown links between use of DU in the battlefield and long term effects for populations in those areas related to DU use.
>Yeah, they probably did try to cook the study honestly. I remember that investigation.
Oh, so now any study that doesn't agree with your histeria is cooked?
>Really? You talk like a marine, and, no, that is not a compliment. I suppose that would explain why you haven't developed a healthy distrust of anything that the DoD calls "safe."
I didn't get my facts from the DoD, so you can stop bitching about them now.
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 No.463848

>>463787
>westoid thinks that it's actually Eastern Europe that is fascist
many such cases


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 No.455421[Reply]

QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I couldn't find it so i'll make a new one.
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 No.463744

>>463684
>>463686
I meant the argument of "having to stick to your interests" when if that logic was strictly true, dekulakization would never have been possible.
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 No.463751

>>463743
That's another genocide, and it should not be swept under the rug. You are correct.
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 No.463799

>>463742
Lol, you dumbass. The entire academia and even the most anticommunist historians deny "Stalin's genocide". No one believes it anymore because there is no evidence to support it, plain and simple. The only people who still believe in the Holodomor today are deranged far rightists.
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 No.463817

>>463742
Read a fucking book uyghur
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 No.463841

Am I gae?

I don't feel like gae… but ppl keep calling me gae.


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 No.456034[Reply]

Some clarification is necessary with regards to the Russo-Ukrainian War.
When Lenin quoted Clausewitz in saying "war is politics by other means", he should have appended "in capitalism" to it. Capitalism may generate crises that result in wars, but war is not about economic interest, nor is war merely a different expression of politics.
War is a political failure, appearing as one party (oftentimes the weaker one) using force to "negotiate" and to achieve their goals. War is ultimately a pseudo-politics that relies on morally blackmailing others to pick a side. It is pseudo-politics because politics is not about morality or justice, despite any such motivations, but is about freedom and power.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies in capitalist politics, opportunistically taking positions based on political clout. Of course a socialist movement should take advantage of divisions among the ruling class, but it should also point out the rotten and unprincipled positions that members of the ruling class tend to take in this context (bourgeois pacifism, bourgeois defeatism, et cetera).
Socialist politics is the class struggle, the struggle to organize the working class to seize political power without national boundaries; all other activity ought to be subordinate to this goal. Socialists ought not cede to capitalist politics by taking sides on capitalist wars.
We are constantly being manipulated by capitalist politics, making it difficult for us to imagine an alternative. Therefore, our first step should be to ask how we can organize workers independent of capitalist policy.
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 No.463545

>>463519
>>463527
>>463537
>>463538
>>463543
Keep the sports bar tier discussion in the containment thread please and thank you
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 No.463551

Just aother capitalist imperialist war where workers are brainwashed with patriotism to kill each other instead of the corrupt oligarchs that profit from the bloodshed.
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 No.463563

>>463545
What the fuck sports bars have you been going to? Are you from Boston or something?
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 No.463565

>>463563
I go to the kind of sports bars where every bar fight ends in a very drunk angloid and an even more drunk vatnik accidentally stabbing their own chests, all following a dispute where they were too drunk to figure out whether or not the soccer game on TV was really supposed to be football or rugby.
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 No.463566

>>463565
Ohhh, Philadelphia. Say no more.


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 No.459920[Reply]

If a dictatorship of the proletariat ever emerges in the anglosphere, it might not be portrayed as a far-left phenomenon. To the contrary, its likely be perceived as the seizure of power by white cis male supremacists. Of course this will happen not because its the truth, but because such is simply how one interprets the world under the influence of the ruling ideology.
>Democrat ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…they must be contained
>Republican ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…which is BASED and REDPILLED
Indeed, it might even be possible that the far-right ends up supporting an anglosphere DotP based on this illusion. Of course we should reject any notion of a red-brown alliance, but the accusation may be hurled at us regardless.
The working class ought to have nothing to fear due to this, as we know that the vast majority of proles of all races reject identity politics. But we also know that every working class movement has involved a petty-bourgeois intelligentsia. These intellectuals are vulnerable to such ideological trickery, and it might be the case that many self-identifying socialists, communists and anarchists - from moderate social democrats to the most hardline Marxist-Leninists - will immediately reject an anglosphere DotP. We must therefore be critical of our own camp just as much as we are of the bourgeois ideologues.
However, the most important point is for those who take these warnings seriously. The worst decision one can make is, through being overly critical of the ruling ideology, to then misperceive any movement decried as "white cis male supremacist" or whatever to be a working-class movement. This is unironically how some socialists might foolishly end up supporting neo-Nazis. We must not fall into the trap of outright rejecting anything we perceive as bourgeois or passively accepting anything that is "anti-capitalist", "anti-elitist", "anti-establishment" and so on.
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 No.463512

>>460125
It is extremely embarrassing that so many self-described Marxists are clueless about how the capitalist state functions. I blame Marx's lazy ass for this.
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 No.463515

>>463512
Thanks for volunteering yourself as an example.
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 No.463548

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 No.463556

>>463548
Yes, I will cope with you having no idea what you are talking about.
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 No.463564

>>463556
seethe


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 No.462948[Reply]

(Pic- Kim Il Sung University who released below publication)

2016.12.10.

Deformation in the spiritual and cultural life, this is the means by which the capitalist state and the capitalist class attempt to turn the working masses into modern-day slaves.

The bourgeoisie is spreading reactionary ideology, culture, and rotten bourgeois lifestyle in order to paralyze the working masses' consciousness of independence, make people obey the capitalist system of exploitation, and further degenerate into slaves to money. Thus, in a capitalist society, a perverted hobby of pursuing animalistic "pleasures" that has no relation to people's healthy demands has arisen, paralyzing people's bodies and minds.

Comrade Kim Jong- il , the great leader , taught:

“Even in the countries where capitalism is said to be the most developed, the number of illiterate and mentally handicapped is increasing day by day, and many people are degenerating into vulgar humans who pursue only momentary comfort and pleasure without any ideas or aspirations . ” 》 Supplemental Edition Vol. 12, p. 422)

In the United States, where normal human thinking is completely paralyzed and intelligence and civilization are deformed, the issue of same-sex marriage, which cannot be imagined in human society, is an important topic of discussion every presidential election.

In the United States, the issue of same-sex marriage has been a major topic of discussion during the presidential election since 2004 and has been raised as a political issue. Following the 2008 presidential election in 2012, the views of the presidential candidates against same-sex marriage became a concern of the electors. In the United States, voters generally refer to candidates who support same-sex marriage as innovative and those who oppose it as conservatives.
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 No.462949

>“Even in the countries where capitalism is said to be the most developed, the number of illiterate and mentally handicapped is increasing day by day, and many people are degenerating into vulgar humans who pursue only momentary comfort and pleasure without any ideas or aspirations . ”

Based
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 No.463490

>The bourgeoisie is spreading reactionary ideology, culture, and rotten bourgeois lifestyle in order to paralyze the working masses' consciousness of independence, make people obey the capitalist system of exploitation, and further degenerate into slaves to money. Thus, in a capitalist society, a perverted hobby of pursuing animalistic "pleasures" that has no relation to people's healthy demands has arisen, paralyzing people's bodies and minds.
What could have been a good entry to a material and economic analysis, was instead followed by a shock propaganda article along the lines of
<woahhh! Can you BELIEVE that they’re doing gay shit over in America?!?!
The argument presupposes itself and just relies on the possibility that the reader does not like gay people. I know people love to call Paul cockshott a bigot and shit but at least he tried to think along the lines of economic and material implications of homosexuality


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 No.462900[Reply]

European countries attacked by the Soviet Union. This is why NATO is expanding tsnkies. You think your former wards forgot?
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 No.462903

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I don't really see how you could call yourself a socialist and support the expansion of NATO. Regardless of what you think of the Soviet Union.
Also, the history of these conflicts should be judged individually on their own merit to come to a clear conclusion not all lumped together to support your propaganda.
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 No.462951

Bump
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 No.462956

>>462900
Looks like a skill issue to me.
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 No.463384

>>462900
>The imperialists and domestic reactionaries will certainly not take their defeat lying down and they will struggle to the last ditch. After there is peace and order throughout the country, they will still engage in sabotage and create disturbances in various ways and will try every day and every minute to stage a comeback. This is inevitable and beyond all doubt, and under no circumstances must we relax our vigilance.
Now, can you explain how this quote is wrong, OP? Because if you agree with it, then these are the times where the US and its imperialist forces tried to infiltrate and destabilize the Soviet Union and its allies, right?
On a similar note, what do you think of what happened in Tiananmen square?
>Donations to the Pro-Democracy Movement came from several sources: Peking University was the first to start fund raising, students collected money on the streets. Other donors included the private sector, trade unions and overseas Chinese, particularly in Hong Kong.
>On May 27 supporters in Hong Kong staged an all day concert featuring Hong Kong singers, actors and actresses that raised around thirteen million HK Yuan.
>In Hong Kong, then still a British territory, support for the movement was massive, with thousands of citizens rallying to support the pro-democracy protests.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_student_organizations_during_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
Do you think China attacked England!? How bold of them, isn't it?


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