/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>492227
This is a bit of a silly reply, maybe, but would OP happen to be interested in the traditional art and culture of the place their ancestors came from?

I'd be interested in learning about kinds of Dutch folk music, if you'd like to post them on >>>/music/
And if you wanna talk about Dutch baked goods, pastries, desserts, and confectionery, there's >>>/b/158847

Polite sage because this isn't really answering your question.

>>492227
my family fully americanized when they came over so we have no recipes or traditions. They also abandoned their ancestral tongue. Any kind of culture wiped away, kind of sad, but also progressive from a Bordigist point of view.

>>492233
I think it's one of the worst things about America, although it's also true that tragedies like this have played out all over Europe and elsewhere - as much as people shit on Islam, historical Christianity tended to be even worse as far as wiping out pre-existing religious practices where it was introduced. Like India was under Islamic rule for a long period, at times very strict, but today where are the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, etc. and where are the practitioners of the ancient "paganism" of the Slavs, Scandinavians, and Druids?

I say this as someone who actually likes the contrived syncretic culture of the US and thinks Jesus was pretty cool in terms of the philosophy attributed to him, but I think it's a tragedy how aggressively Abrahamic religious spread and American assimilationism have erased historical culture and traditions. No one has it worse in this sense than black descendants of slaves, who have had to meticulously retrace the Atlantic slave trade to figure out roughly where the fuck on the African continent their ancestors were even abducted from, even many white Americans wouldn't be able to tell you exactly where they came from today.

>>492235
I'm white and I have no idea. Some ancestors were from Austro-Hungary, but I can't get more specific than that.

Although true Bordigists aspire for all culture to be replaced with a Proletarian one. Different goals, same end?

>>492236
This is really how it is in the USA. Capitalism just wipes out culture and replaces it with commodified copies of culture. Like look at black people brought over from the slave trade.

They have no culture of their own anymore so they had to create one in the form of hip-hop and such. Slaves back in the day sung slave hymns. the thing is capitalism, like all things under capitalism, only allows something to exist in so far as it can profit off of it.

>>492235
After learning about my heritage I really hate Christianity more now than ever, lol.

>>492193
People are going to forget in a few years, just as they forgot Chiqita's warcrimes and Nestle's slavery. Outrage politics are inherently fleeting.

>>492211
This isn't a defense of "boycotts don't do anything!!!" at all, you're just moving the goalposts.

Sage because this thread is fucking stupid, but so are the arguments being presented """against""" boycotting.

That’s why we have cartoon porn.
Also, the only reason why porn is bad is because of the shaming of cishet male sexuality

>>492216
Are you fucking stupid?
It's bad because of the massive abuse that happens behinds the scenes, the spread of diseases and drugs, and that it normalizes "cishet male sexuality," which is in and of itself a reactionary sexuality.

>>492232
>it normalizes "cishet male sexuality," which is in and of itself a reactionary sexuality.
This thread just keeps getting fucking stupider holy shit.

>>479950
The US elites learned lessons of Vietnam war too well. Wars go much smoothier if the coffins arrive to another country instead of yours.

>>480076
You're hinting at the Ukraine proxy war ? While there are few coffins coming back from that war, it's not going smooth either.

More shit going down, it sounds like:
https://x.com/agent_of_change/status/1859952119366684943

US defense secretary Lloyd Austin revealed yesterday the existence of the "US Task Force Ayungin", a military unit in the Philippines that has never been publicly acknowledged before.

Austin said he "met with some American service members deployed to US Task Force Ayungin" and that he "thanked them for their hard work on behalf of the American people and our alliances and partnerships in this region".

US troops are providing "guidance and training" to the Philippine military, supposedly in response to Chinese aggression.

Duterte arrested.

Philippines ex-leader Duterte arrested on ICC warrant over drug killings

Philippine police have arrested former president Rodrigo Duterte after the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued a warrant accusing him of crimes against humanity over his deadly "war on drugs".

The 79-year-old was taken into police custody shortly after his arrival at Manila airport from Hong Kong on Tuesday.

Latest reports from local media say he is on board a private jet on the airport tarmac. Earlier, his daughter said he was being "forcibly" sent to the Hague in the Netherlands, where the ICC sits.

A press conference from the presidential palace is expected soon.

Duterte has offered no apologies for his brutal anti-drugs crackdown, which saw thousands of people killed when he was president of the South East Asian nation from 2016 to 2022, and mayor of Davao city before that.

Upon his arrest on Tuesday, he questioned the basis for the warrant, asking: "What crime [have] I committed?" in a video posted online by his daughter Veronica Duterte.
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>>485818
Bongbong Marcos will be the chairman of ASEAN in 2026.

Just made this

Did a tribute to fallen IOF soldiers.

My celebrity lookalikes

The chief problem with this is that, under the current conditions, "anti-immigration" is purely used as an identitarian fake cause to divide workers and sow chaos.

The very same capitalist political class which seeks to blame migrant workers for everything also wages war globally, places sanctions all over the world knowing that their economic war causes mass migration, censors on behalf of "Israel" as it displaces millions from the middle east (ICE is even used to abduct and terrorize people who are in the US legally for criticizing "Israel" for its war crimes), actively attacks and skirts labor law and hard won workers' rights, attacks unions even as business cartels buy more capitalist influence through corporate lobbies, and then they gladly hire migrants in order undercut labor domestically even as they use anti-immigrant rhetoric and draconian policing to terrorize migrant communities and keep them afraid while segments of the workers born in the country are unwittingly tricked into doing their bidding.

Here is my solution, and it's very simple:
I. Make it easier to get citizenship legally
II. Give automatic citizenship to any undocumented workers who rat out their employers for hiring them illegally
III. Deport the employers, seize their assets and appoint new company heads, and make the newly citizen workers take mandatory courses on American labor law

If the problem is corrupt businesses favoring undocumented workers, then this will solve it. Furthermore, an end to foreign wars and economic war will massively reduce the number of refugees and economic migrants. Additionally, there should be better public transit between rural and urban areas so that workers from the cities, where there are many unemployed people, can more easily get to the country where there is a large need for manual labor on farms.

Within actual currently existing politics, though, the appeals to oppose immigration are insincere. Where I am concerned, immigration is a neutral value; it's neither bad nor good, and there are valid arguments for or against it. However, when none of those arguments, in the mainstream, are addressing the roots of the problem, and when the material interests of the political actors are aligned with those who are exploiting the current situation, there is no advantage to me pretending that the programme of mass surveillancePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Immigration lowers wages
Capitalists lower wages. Don't ever forget who has the actual power in class society. Want to stop the wages being lowered? Go after the capitalists. Because they will certainly find a way to lower wages with immigration or without it.

dubs checked
read cockshott monica

>>492183
Sauce? I didnt know they were this based.

>>492197
>While these things were going on, in the city of Argos civil strife broke out accompanied by slaughter of a greater number than is recorded ever to have occurred anywhere else in Greece. Among the Greeks this revolutionary movement was called "Club-law," receiving this appellation on account of the manner of the execution.
>58 1 Now the strife arose from the following causes: the city of Argos⁠3 had a democratic form of government, and certain demagogues instigated the populace against the outstanding citizens of property and reputation. The victims of the hostile charges then got together and decided to overthrow the democracy. 2 When some of those who were thought to be implicated were subjected to torture, all but one, fearing the agony of torture, committed suicide, but this one came to terms under torture, received a pledge of immunity, and as informer denounced thirty of the most distinguished citizens, and the democracy without a thorough investigation put to death all those who were accused and confiscated their property. 3 But many others were under suspicion, and as the demagogues supported false accusations, the mob was wrought up to such a pitch of savagery that they condemned to death all the accused, who were many and wealthy. When, however, more than twelve hundred influential men had been removed, the populace did not spare the demagogues themselves. 4 For because of the magnitude of the calamity the demagogues were afraid that some unforeseen turn of fortune might overtake them and therefore desisted from their accusation, whereas the mob, now thinking that they had been left in the lurch by them, were angry at this and put to death all the demagogues. So these men received the punishment which fitted their crimes as if some divinity were visiting its just resentment upon them, and the people, eased of their mad rage, were restored to their senses.

Diodorus Siculus, Bibliotheca Historica volume 15:

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/15D*.html#57


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If we are going by classical historical stuff the left should focus on.
Minimum classical reading for the left really should be The Art of War, The Thirty-Six Stratagems and The Prince.
Furthermore I think reading Dream of the Red Chamber, Romance of the Three Kingdoms and other classical literature that involves a lot of political/palace scheming (see lots of Chinese classical literature) should also basically be on any leftists bucketlist. The main classical historical figure the left should read about is Cao Cao obviously. Imperial Warlord: A Biography of Cao Cao is another one that should be required reading.
The main reason for this is the left genuinely has complete and total shit for brains when it comes to actually carrying out politics and playing the political game, near every time I watch left wing wannabe politicans or left wing activists in the media, I can't help but absolutely cringe at how amateur hour it is to the point I legitimately believe an average 12 year old could run rings around most leftists.
The left has an issue of thinking about politics as a grand strategy game, big policy announcements, big geopolitical moves by states, but it doesn't think strategically on the micro level, there is very little strategic wording or playing the game of actual day to day politics, lack of real manuvering around political opponents, opportunists, journalists, staffers, management of interpersonal relationships, recognizing talent, being able to accept criticism, well crafted messaging etc. In fact, not only does the Left largely ignore this stuff, it always seemingly to be against it. Any leftist that actually cares about messaging or even priorotizing certain issues is deemed a reactionary or fed or some bullshit. "WE CAN DO MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONCE", no, you quite literally cannot, every political figure has a limited amount of political capital and you have to delegate that capital and time effectively and the left almost always chooses a broad jack of all trades shot while then largely doubling down on the most unpopular Idpol GOOD FUCKING PERSON positions when push comes to shove.
The left really needs to learn how to be scheming Eunuch tier because at the moment we are being clobbered by actual fucking retards.

> I can't help but absolutely cringe at how amateur hour it is to the point I legitimately believe an average 12 year old could run rings around most leftists.

That’s an insult to tweens.
Also, leftism died in the 1970s.
I don’t think it wasn’t meant to be in this timeline.

>The left has an issue of thinking about politics as a grand strategy game, big policy announcements, big geopolitical moves by states, but it doesn't think strategically on the micro level,

Idk it seems that the neoliberal left is more focused on political stuff in the social-personal realm.

>there is very little strategic wording or playing the game of actual day to day politics, lack of real manuvering around political opponents, opportunists, journalists, staffers, management of interpersonal relationships, recognizing talent, being able to accept criticism, well crafted messaging etc.

Um, the neoliberal left is already doing all of this.

>In fact, not only does the Left largely ignore this stuff, it always seemingly to be against it. Any leftist that actually cares about messaging or even priorotizing certain issues is deemed a reactionary or fed or some bullshit.
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>>491634
It's a free country!

>>491634
Sarkozy is now in prison.

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1981061435976200670
⭕️🇫🇷 Former french president Nicolas Sarkozy was stopped from sleeping by several french inmates, saying they would avenge the late Libyan leader Gaddafi.

"Oh Sarko, you son of a wh*re, wake up! You killed Gaddafi …"

They said Germans didn't have a sense of humor.

>>492037
Not true, Germans can be very funny. Wankel engine always cracks me up.

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1987937160008269959
Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy has been released from jail. He was freed on Monday, November 10, 2025, after serving approximately three weeks of a five-year sentence for a criminal conspiracy conviction.

Sarkozy, who was incarcerated at La Santé prison in Paris on October 21, 2025, was released under strict judicial supervision pending his appeal. Conditions of his release include a ban on leaving France and a ban on contacting any justice ministry officials.

A court granted the release after his lawyers argued he was not a flight risk and did not meet the legal justifications for continued "provisional detention" while an appeal is ongoing. The appeal hearing is expected to take place in March of next year.

Nicolas Sarkozy was jailed for his conviction on a charge of criminal conspiracy related to the illegal financing of his 2007 presidential election campaign with funds from the late Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

In September 2025, a Paris court found Sarkozy guilty of "criminal conspiracy" for allowing his close aides to engage with Libyan officials to secure campaign financing between 2005 and 2007. This was before Sarkozy played a key role in the NATO overthrow of Gaddafi and decimation of Libya.

>>488214
UK left is completely turbo pozzed LGBT and open borders cargo cult.
Left parties will never get off the ground here because there is no "big tent" they are working towards to bring across a standard working class agenda, so you will just get left parties that are extreme in all the wrong ways and follow whatever shitlib pozzed zeitgeist they get fed from largely US dominated Social Media.
This is why even most Green parties don't even focus on Environmental or Industrial/Agricultural policy anymore, because they got hijacked by every quack "left adjacent" group out there to push their personal agendas, and the only "cross faction" difference they need to cover, is how much "girldick" should you be forced to suck because being declared a real leftist.
>>488243
>I sometimes wonder if the left could have done something like this too.
Yes if the Western left was actually competent and had any basis in normal working class people at all. No in reality, because the Western Left is nothing more than a cargo cult of quack losers and freaks.
Honestly Corbyn when he played the game, and focused only on bread and butter working class economic issues with broad appeal, literally hit 45% in UK polling with the Tories sitting on 37%. Do you think the modern British left would accept Corbyn's popular policies like massively strengthening police powers and hiring 40k more police? Of fucking course not.

>>488221
>My bet is that poster above you is an oblivious sufferer of duopoly brainrot
Or it was sarcasm so advanced that a galaxybrain such as yourself couldn't detect it.

>Labour has been an increasingly Thatcherite party economically since Blair
Is that why taxes are higher than ever, public spending is higher than ever, and millionaires are fleeing the country in record numbers?
https://londondaily.com/over-10-000-millionaires-depart-from-the-uk-in-a-year-amid-changing-financial-landscape

>>490407
Millionares are fleeing the UK because it's an absolute miserable fucking shithole that is going to the dogs.
If you are a british Millionare, and your assets are being taxed in any meaningful way, you're actually retarded. The UK literally set up the global system of tax avoidence.

https://news.sky.com/story/ex-labour-mp-zarah-sultana-at-centre-of-new-party-row-over-800k-in-donations-13468018
Student politics woketard wrecker continues to wreck.
.orge, Green and Pleasant and all those types still lick her boots, bit it's actually astonishing how fucking shit of a political actor she is
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002lq9c
Interview she did with the BBC as well and she sound literally like every first year student who just discovered Socialism as the cool kids club.

Was this legitimately over water resources or is Israel somehow involved again?

>>489396
Wow you got him pegged

Truce reported (and broken?)

13 killed in New Delhi car bombing at the Red Fort:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/11/11/delhi-red-fort-blast-live-terrorism-law-invoked-in-india-after-9-killed
and now a blast in Islamabad has killed 12:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/11/blast-outside-islamabad-court-in-pakistan-injures-at-least-eight

What's going on?

An interesting detail she mentions is that Janjaweed/Rapid Support Forces (RSF) fighters were apparently employed against Ansar Allah in Yemen.