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 No.483922[Reply]

you killed my leftypol so i killed one of your threads
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 No.484161

>>484138
That's part of the entertainment, so congratulations on your promotion from bunker vols to /leftypol/ vols.
They can be bunkerchan now.
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 No.484164

>>484161
Nukechan is also open go say hi.
https://nukechan.net/index.html
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 No.484165

>>484164
Hell no honky I aint goin to yo David Duke chan ass
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 No.484166

>>484165
Oh Lenin have mercy, the xitterfags have ended up in getchan.
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 No.484168

>>484166
All us black folx vote .net SON BOY FOO


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 No.476318[Reply]

The infamous chatcontrole-law internet apocalypse in the EU has been postponed. It seems dead for now but these things tend to become like zombies rising from the grave.

Now lets discuss how to actually fix the pedo-problem.

The pedo-problem is a meat-space problem that is bleeding into the virtual world. So lasting solutions can only be found in meat-space.

We have to analyze the politics at play. I doubt the neo-liberal system allows for genuine collective well-being politics. So doing something that benefits all children will not be possible. All the available politics are zero-sum games, improving the lot of some children at the expense of others. This can be overcome by creating civil-society parent lobby groups, enabled to act on the part that benefits the child-interests they represent while blocking the detrimental actions towards other child-interests by locking that into a perpetual battle against each other to neutralize the "negative energy".

The main political energy that genuinely seeks to clean the internet from pedo-material is however, people trying to hide the problem, they don't care about children at all, they care about the appearance of a just society. They see their affluence threatened if the injustice of child-abuse is too visible. They are perhaps the worst bunch. Bending this political energy into a positive outcome is very hard. We might be able to turn this into a general child-privacy scheme. We could make an AI-filter that gets trained to recognize and blur all children. This filter system could be made entirely transparent including the entire source-training-database since regular pictures of children aren't crimes, making it harder to abuse and also minimally invasive by selectively blurring out only children, without censoring the entire material. AI filters are quite good at detecting age and the silhouette of people, and this scheme does not require AI to understand context, reducing false positives. It need not be made mandatory, because it's an easy non-threatening way to prevent having to deal with pedo-material. I feel confident that most websites would use this to make moderation easier. It uses very little compute resources, and the child-abuse is out of sight (which realistically is all that can be done on the computer side of things). On the ethical side we get better online child-privacy without needing heavy handed governmental top-down interference.

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 No.476320

People's inherent rights take precedence to everything else including your "protect muh children!" Rehtoric. You can never stop all of it. It's sad but it's true you can just meditate it and you mediate it criminally and mentally via forcing them into therapy and psychology. But it's naive and stupid to think you can ever get rid of it completely.
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 No.476321

>>476320
>People's inherent rights take precedence
I agree with that wholeheartedly. But i fear that this isn't how political mechanisms actually work.

I think they'll keep using the pedo-crap as pretext to try and fuck with the internet, as long as that pedo-crap persists.

We could probably lessen the threat against the internet, if we could find a offline mechanism that would allow them to capture pedos. This is why i'm proposing to create psychological abuse-diagnostics in schools and pedo bounty hunters. I reckon that unlike fucking with the internet, this would actually work, at least enough to reduce the problem below the threshold where it can become a political hot-potato.
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 No.484127

Most discussions about pedophilia (including this one) seem to think that detaining children, either in person or avatar, is the only safety measure.

Any organisation that has the "F-bomb" (Family) in their name, slogan, or target audience is a big red flag.
Any suggestion like OP that talks about "blurring childrens pictures" or "extensive diagnostic studying" of children often lead to child abuse.


The only way to confront pedophilia is to admit that childhood as we know it is a social construct that doesnt really hold up to reality.
Innocence is not a virtue of youth, nor should it be.

Modern society thinks that children are supposed to be sheltered from any slight nuance and never be told about anything nor trained for self defense.

"Let kids be kids" is the common sentiment used to justify prolonged ignorance in the juvenile stage of life.


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 No.484042[Reply]

remember 9/11 1973
never forget

also I guess we can also have a schizo thread where we talk about how burger 9/11 was an inside job or whatever
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 No.484045

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 No.484046

Ah yes, the anniversary of the CIA's fascist coup against Allende. How could I ever forget?
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 No.484063

>>484046
Yeah we didn't just loose a socialist country, we also lost the first attempt at doing cybernetic socialism. It would have been so interesting to see the results of that experiment.
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 No.484070

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>>484045
herr…
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 No.484124

I hate to interrupt an Allende thread with stuff about some dumb revenge attack on history's 2nd evilest empire, but the Canestraro declaration is juicy.


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 No.483823[Reply]

Anarchists of the 19th and early 20th century: planting bombs, assassinating rulers, organizing radical unions
Anarchists today: wear leather jackets and doc martins, listen to Sex Pistols, maybe they'll spray paint some graffiti, otherwise do absolutely nothing

Not saying they were always engaged in effective activity (Propaganda of the Deed is the dumbest revolutionary strategy ever), but at least the original anarchists actually did something. It seems like in every lefty org I've been in the anarchists are the ones least likely to roll up their sleeves and actually get some work done.

What happened?
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 No.483894

Assassinations went out of fashion, it's mostly arson now. You can get the news if you know where to look.
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 No.483895

>>483894
Seems like the kind of crime that'd be real easy to false-flag on someone else.
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 No.484053

>>483828
>set up a commune
I guess many end up like this instead of building orgs for nationwide revolution.
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 No.484118

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>Anarchists of the 19th and early 20th century: planting bombs, assassinating rulers
Propaganda of the deed was a failed strategy.
However, Siegefags (a syncretic form of neo-Nazism) have tried to continue that strategy in an attempt to incite a race war through terrorism. As you can see, that shit isn't working, but I find it hilarious that they took one of the least effective parts of anarchism and decided to run with it.
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 No.484119

>>484118
that, along with the copying blac block, etc. has almost made them the new as-a-farce anarchists. hurr dur lets shoot down a power transformer. lets just put up some posters an d graffiti.
Honestly, the neo-nazis deciding that 'acktaully the cops and military and big business bad' castrated any chance of them pulling a brownshart corporate-backed coup, which is basically the only way neo-fascism has a chance in present conditions.


 No.483788[Reply]

From Democracy Now!:
After nearly two decades of obstruction by the U.S. military, The New Yorker has obtained and published 10 photos of the aftermath of the 2005 Haditha massacre, when U.S. marines killed 24 Iraqi civilians in revenge for an IED bombing that killed a service member. The graphic images show dead Iraqi men, women and children, many of them shot in the head at close range. The victims ranged in age from 3 to 76. Release of the photos came only after producers of the investigative podcast In the Dark sued the Navy, the Marine Corps and U.S. Central Command to force them to turn over the photos and other records. "What the photos clearly show is that these were innocent people who do not appear to be doing anything threatening at the time of their deaths," says Madeleine Baran, host and lead reporter of the podcast. Four marines were charged for the killings, but the charges were dismissed in three cases, and the last ended with a plea deal that did not result in a single day in prison. Baran says the survivors of the massacre, who cooperated with producers to get the photos released, are still waiting for justice. "What they want is the world to know what happened to their family, to know that their family were good people, not insurgents, and they want justice," she says.
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 No.483798

>>483788
Will Americans ever face the consequences? I wish a 9/11 every single day for them.
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 No.483805

>>483798
>Will Americans ever face the consequences?
Well the Bush-junior era neocon Wars on of Terror, wasted a lot of money on blowing shit up in the middle east, and that led to funding deficits that harmed a large part of the US population. So there were consequences but it definitely affected the wrong people.
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 No.484041

>>483798
>>483805
i fucking LOVE collective punishment of everyone but the wrong people

i fucking LOVE confusing the guilty ruling class and military of a nation with their working class

i fucking LOVE never ending wars of retribution


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 No.483504[Reply]

Ya'll remember Pierre Tru-dank?

Now he buck dances for Yankee Tankie for a shred of the internet relevance he once had, picking up trash…

for fee
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 No.483808

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>Canadian Marxist-Leninist with influences from Georges Sorel, Daniel De Leon, and the Fourth Political Theory.
>Watch next: The State: De Leon vs "Left" "Communism"
>this channel artwork
Yep, it's another mloid (= nutsoy cuck). Why did you bring this particular faggot up?
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 No.483920

>>483505
OG leftypol youtuber

Dude got really fat, lol
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 No.483946

Ah yes, leftists shooting left again. I'll wait till someone tells me a real reason to not support the ACP, even if they're a meme party. Maybe I'm being naive but ever since they launched they've been slandered by leftists on the internet, and it's the same kind of slander that democrats slander Trump with on /r/wholesomememes: it's always some dumb personal attack.
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 No.483952

>>483920
Although I used to like his videos.

He's just too obsessed with the patsoc stuff nowadays.
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 No.484002

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>>483946
if you pee your own pants you can't cry about people making fun of you
thems the rules


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 No.471994[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Maui fires raise questions over warnings, death toll hits 80

"MAALAEA, Hawaii, Aug 11 (Reuters) - The death toll from the Maui wildfires rose to 80 on Friday as search teams combed through the smoldering ruins of Lahaina, and Hawaiian officials sought to determine how the inferno spread so rapidly through the historic resort town with little warning.

The fires became the deadliest natural disaster in the state's history, surpassing that of a tsunami that killed 61 people on the Big Island of Hawaii in 1960, a year after Hawaii joined the United States.

Officials have warned that search teams with cadaver dogs could still find more dead from the fire that torched 1,000 buildings and left thousands homeless, likely requiring many years and billions of dollars to rebuild.

"Nobody has entered any of these structures that have burned down and that's where we unfortunately anticipate that the death toll will rise significantly," U.S. Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii told MSNBC.

In a late evening statement, Maui County said that the death toll had risen to 80.

The Lahaina fire that spread from the brush to town was still burning but 85% contained, the county said earlier. Two other wildfires on the island were 80% and 50% contained.

Three days after the disaster, it remained unclear whether some residents had received any warning before the fire engulfed their homes.
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 No.473985

>>473983
>there's a risk that they end up stuck in the tempcontainers.
While that is true, the alternative is to provide these people nothing to appease schizos. Again, the gentrification of NO was a far more serious issue than fucking FEMA camps. It's a conversation designed to distract from the real issue, which is the transfer of wealth and property from the poor to the very rich.
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 No.474057

>>473985
>the alternative is to provide these people nothing to appease schizos
>THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, PROLES
>We built these concentration camps out of the kindness of our hearts!
>The displaced couldn't possibly be allowed to live in houses or apartments
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 No.474076

>>474057
Temporary housing isn't a concentration camp. Nobody is required to go there. Nice try, though, schizo.
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 No.474705

>>474076
it's a literal pogrom to herd people into shipping crates. kill yourself fed.
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 No.483861

>>473947
thats most people worldwide tbh.

I think our moern society obsesses too much over academic skill to he point where its replacing common sense and survival skills.


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 No.483733[Reply]

Editor’s Note: Jakarta has been engulfed in fiery unrest in recent days, as thousands of protesters attempted to storm parliament in response to controversial changes to election laws. In September 2023, MintPress News revealed leaked files from the National Endowment for Democracy, suggesting that this CIA-linked organization has built an extensive network of political, media, and civil society infrastructure in Indonesia aimed at facilitating regime change. After years of fostering insurrectionary fervor in the country, has the NED’s influence finally reached a boiling point? MintPress News is republishing the following groundbreaking investigation by Kit Klarenberg as events in Indonesia once again come to the fore.



Widodo’s candidacy also reportedly stimulated Indonesia’s stock market and Rupiah currency due to his sparkling political and economic record. One might think burnishing the country’s finances to such a degree through sheer force of personality would make him an ideal leader from Washington’s perspective. Yet, the President has also prioritized “protecting Indonesia’s sovereignty” and limiting overseas influence in Jakarta. Moreover, he pursues an intensely independent foreign policy, much to the U.S. Empire’s chagrin.

Widodo has encouraged leaders of Muslim states to reconcile and pushed for Palestinian independence. His Foreign Minister visits Palestine but refuses to establish diplomatic relations with Israel. He has also distributed sizable aid to oppressed Muslims abroad. Most egregiously, since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, he flew to both countries and urged their leaders to seek peace. When Jakarta hosted the G20 Summit that year, he invited not only Zelensky but Putin to attend despite fierce Western criticism.



Widodo is now preparing to leave office, his constitutionally-mandated terms over, and personal approval ratings at all-time highs. His departure creates a clean political slate, which NED is eager to fill. Mercifully, a repeat of the intelligence agency-orchestrated slaughter that brought Suharto to power decades ago appears unlikely. But the leaked documents obtained by MintPress News make clear the U.S. Empire is preparing to pull off another coup in Jakarta under the aegis of “democracy promotion.”

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 No.483736

Hello from Indonesia

I live in east borneo and while people complain about government on social media, no one is actually organizing or attempting to do anything
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 No.483737

>>483736
most politically active dayak fag
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 No.483738

>>483736
>no one is actually organizing or attempting to do anything
In what regard? Like they're not attempting to prevent a coup or they're not attempting to do a coup?
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 No.483811

>>483736
What do people think of Sukarno and Suharto? Do they even know who they are?
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 No.483849

>>483738
they're not attempting to prevent a coup


 No.483723[Reply]

Seriously wtf
Is Macron dictator for life now? What's happening? What's going on?
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 No.483724

>caring about booj political drama

Ok no I'm just being a dick, I don't know more I wish I did.
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 No.483725

>>483723
>Is Macron dictator for life now?
Definitely not, the military would never back him, because he already betrayed them when he tried to feed them to the meat grinder in Ukraine. He'd be dead in a week if he attempted a dictatorship.

>What's happening? What's going on?

The neo-libs lost power, and they haven't accepted it yet.
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 No.483726

>left "popular resistance" coalition nominates another neoliberal for PM who went to the same elite schools as Macron
>Macron rejects them anyway
What can be said? They pissed away their credibility by pushing more banker bullshit when they had the power to push for something leftward. The only way this could work out in their favor now is if they went to the people and said "See, our opponents won't even accept another right-wing neoliberal austerity peddler, they can't be reasoned with!" I highly doubt they're going to do that though.
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 No.483728

>>483726
>The only way this could work out in their favor now is if they went to the people and said "See, our opponents won't even accept another right-wing neoliberal austerity peddler, they can't be reasoned with!" I highly doubt they're going to do that though.
They should though!
I feel like we might actually be at a turning point with this stuff. The pro-Palestine/anti-genocide movement in the US has comparable stuff going on, where the so-called "centrists" keep rejecting absolutely every generous concession and compromise from the people they characterize as "radicals," who actually represent an ever-growing portion of popular consensus. I'm not an optimist, but I think it's sending a message to a lot of people who might otherwise have dismissed it.
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 No.483729

>>483728
>I feel like we might actually be at a turning point with this stuff. The pro-Palestine/anti-genocide movement in the US has comparable stuff going on, where the so-called "centrists" keep rejecting absolutely every generous concession and compromise from the people they characterize as "radicals," who actually represent an ever-growing portion of popular consensus.
What i found noteworthy was how surprised and befuddled the ruling classes were when they got so much shit for supporting a genocide. They appear to have mentally disconnected from the population. That's probably why they're rejecting every compromise that's offered to them.

Their blunt imperial smash strategies don't work either anymore, and they don't appear to be accepting that either.


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 No.483656[Reply]

How does the left deal with the fact we've completely lost the online sphere as well?
>All social media/forums taken over by establishment bootlicking Neolibs.
>Young male content all alt-right adjacent
>Tankie has become a mainstream insult against anyone left of Obama/Blair
>Basic left wing positions are now claimed to be wrecking/unrealistic by majority of "progressives" that supported them just 4 years ago.
>Left wing outlets censored from social media, journalists arrested or blacklisted.
>Left wing forums completely overrun by insane idpollers who worm their way into mod positions and ban anyone who doesn't bow down to their libshit
>Dirtbag left media ecosphere is dead
How does the left deal with this? Online is incredibly important for information dissemination but the left has been effectively pushed out of the Online sphere as well. Dead IRL and dead online, don't know how the left will crawl back from this tbh.
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 No.483705

>>483703
No you shut the fuck up.
Im sick and tired of imageboard users whining about bullshit allegations of radicalisation of male youth.
Im sick and tored of imageboard users with their minited vocabulary of buzzwords and they get upset at me for disagreeing.
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 No.483709

>>483703
>Please stop
Wtf
You said
>Young male content all alt-right adjacent

which is a blanket statement, and you just want everyone to accept this?
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 No.483712

>>483705
Isn't there legitimate data on the phenomena at this point?
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 No.483719

Enough about things that haven’t happened
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 No.484056

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>>483656
>its le over fellow leftist


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