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 No.482369[Reply]

The US Supreme court has decided to hear the case, fueling speculation they will side with those wanting to criminalize public homelessness.

With the approval of the California governor as well.

This recently came to a head in Grants Pass Oregon, a small Republican county with almost 2% homelessness. Their approach so far was over 500 criminal citations being given to their homeless for sleeping in parks until a circuit court stopped Grants Pass from issuing further citations. Now Grants Pass is asking the supreme court to give explicit permission to all states to criminalize public homelessness.
https://apnews.com/article/grants-pass-oregon-supreme-court-homeless-encampments-a8dcddb518bd76b11d409666c06701b8

The DOJ disagrees however, stating “Regardless of any future Supreme Court ruling, the law” is clear that “officers lack reasonable suspicion to stop people for merely sleeping on public property when they have nowhere else to sleep,” in a criminal complaint against Phoenix Arizona's treatment of the homeless. https://prospect.org/justice/2024-06-20-scotus-homelessness-doj-war-on-poor-phoenix/

The subreddit r/SanFrancisco is also celebrating the possibility of public homelessness being illegal.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1cale76/supreme_court_likely_to_side_with_grants_pass_on/

What is your take on this /leftypol/? The war on the homeless is in full swing.
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 No.482443

>>482432
>The first thing isn't really relevant - who the landlords are doesn't actually matter. The only people to worry about are single-home owners, and an exemption or reduction can be carved out for them.
>The government as it exists now literally prints money to pay for its military spending. We can't actually afford to do that when the US loses its hegemony, which technically means we can't afford to do it now, since the country has a fuckton of debt & the military spending isn't stopping China from outpacing us. The extensive militaristic spending is profoundly wasteful, and we'd have to stop doing it even if we didn't invest in housing and (other forms of) American labor. The handouts for the arms trade would have to stop no matter what we did, and investing in the wellbeing of the nation will have far greater returns, and will also be a much better deal if we fund it by taxing deadweight economic activity like land speculation which drives up costs.

Honestly good take, but the military industrial complex is not going to yield funding easily. They see the shrinking empire as proof that there needs to be more militarism. That investing into "the well-being of the nation" has to look and sound like it's still militarism. You see it's not universal health-care it's universal combat-readiness.
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 No.482455

>>482432
>>482443
The government could pay off its debt in a heartbeat. The reason it doesn't is because finance capital has a vice grip on officials and directly profits every time treasury bonds are issued. It indirectly benefits from the debt ideology it imposes over the government and by claiming its interests take priority over the federal government's. Remember Obama's entire cabinet came from Citigroup.
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 No.482527

The Supreme Court says cities can punish people for sleeping in public places

In its biggest decision on homelessness in decades, the U.S. Supreme Court today ruled that cities can ban people from sleeping and camping in public places. The justices, in a 6-3 decision along ideological lines, overturned lower court rulings that deemed it cruel and unusual under the Eighth Amendment to punish people for sleeping outside if they had nowhere else to go.

Writing for the majority, Justice Gorsuch said, “Homelessness is complex. Its causes are many.” But he said federal judges do not have any “special competence” to decide how cities should deal with this.

“The Constitution’s Eighth Amendment serves many important functions, but it does not authorize federal judges to wrest those rights and responsibilities from the American people and in their place dictate this Nation’s homelessness policy,” he wrote.

In a dissent, Justice Sotomayor said the decision focused only on the needs of cities but not the most vulnerable. She said sleep is a biological necessity, but this decision leaves a homeless person with “an impossible choice — either stay awake or be arrested.”

more:
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/28/nx-s1-4992010/supreme-court-homeless-punish-sleeping-encampments
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 No.482529

>>482527
There's only one option left, the homeless have to become ninjas
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=osTeKSTvtC8
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 No.482531

>>482529
>>482527
>>482443
>>482442
>>482440
>>482433
>>482432
>>482418
>>482403
>>482383
>>482373

Made a thread for raiding the liberal r/SanFrancisco forum who have been calling for the arrest of their homeless there in massively upvoted threads for weeks, join me in the raid

https://leftychan.net/i/res/1972.html


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 No.475365[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Be honest…

Has your life gotten materially better or worse since this faggot supposedly got elected.?
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 No.481962

>>481921
"Real corporate profits" are not "the economy."

This statistic is just an artifact of two things:
- Inflation (CPI adjustment does not account for all inflation because CPI is rigged)
- Reducing the wage share (wage share goes down, profits go up)

Neither of these things are an improvement of "the economy" for the masses, they're a degradation.
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 No.482421

>>475365
this is a regressive economic boom where the lower classes aren't thrilled because not enough is trickling down and prices rose a few years ago

thing is, it's mainly the Fed rate hikes causing the tail end of this boom. Which is inherently inflationary.

A Dem Congress without gridlock would do better than Republicans in making it less regressive but we have gridlock now
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 No.482422

>>481863
we had like 5% GDP last quarters of last year

virtually every other indicator has been great

a recession requires 2+ quarters of negative gdp growth, and it is still positive with Republicans blocking everything

Biden did a better job than Obama at flooding the economy with money and if u can't get at it ur retarded because so much money got put into the economy
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 No.482423

>>482422
either Trump or Biden will keep flooding the economy with money, there really isn't any indication there's be a crash that'll bleed into the real economy unless the Republicans with the House and Senate again. A Dem Congress + Trump or a Dem Congress + Biden would keep money flowing into the economy for whoever needs it. Compared to that miserable 8 year money shortage under Obama. God those years sucked.
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 No.482424

>>475365
This is the first year in my 34 years on this planet I could conceivably live on my own and without help from others.

It's been an objectively good economy for myself.


 No.478430[Reply]

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=vTzVSNfaGvs

This guy did a decent video, on an attempt at introducing a internet ID-law
<government ID for accessing a website (initially porn-sites).

It's hiding behind deceptive legislative speak.
<think of the children while we attack your civil liberties

Big tech companies apparently are supporting this.
<so it might spread to other parts of the internet as well

Obviously none of these people really care about the welfare of children, or else we'd be living in a very different world. They might be targeting porn because they think it's a way to get a foot in the door for an ID-access-wall. Or they might actually be trying to identify people's porn habits in order to facilitate discrimination based on sexuality. Even if that's not the intention right now, it'll definitely be the result. We don't live in a dark age theocratic society where the church regulates sex, because it's currently not possible. All the puritanical bullshit will come flooding back the moment it becomes possible. Every ruling class seeks to control sex.

The Internet ID stuff will get hacked so even if you're a gullible fool that believes in this.
<think of all the identity theft
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 No.482309

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>>482308
limitless
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 No.482310

I possess an exceptional online tool that creates highly authentic and lifelike depictions of adolescent royalty, catering to a demographic characterized by youthful exuberance and unbridled potential. NO ROASTIE CAN STOP ME!!!
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 No.482311

>>482308
>>482309
>>482310
sus-ness aside, do i need a beefy computer to run this program and which program is it? or do you do it from online?
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 No.482334

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>>482311
(obfuscation sponsored by GPT4All)

To successfully set up your environment for "on topic" activities, follow these steps:

1. Acquire a used Nvidia GPU with 16GB VRAM at a cost of less than $200, and purchase a cooling fan retrofit to ensure optimal performance. Note that Tesla GPUs are suitable options but require additional power supply and do not come with built-in cooling systems.

2. Choose a hypervisor capable of supporting GPU pass-through technology. This will allow your "on topic" guest to directly access the hardware resources, including the Nvidia GPU.

3. Set up a VPN or Tor router as a guest within your hypervisor environment. This will help hide your "on topic" activities and protect your privacy while downloading files.

4. Install a Linux-based operating system on another virtual machine (guest) for the purpose of running "on topic" tasks. Ensure that you have installed the proprietary Nvidia driver to support the GPU operations.

5. Introduce comfyui into your "on topic" guest, and then install the comfyui-manager plugin for added functionality.

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 No.482335

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>>482311
This setup is designed to minimize potential risks associated with "on topic" activities by creating a secure, isolated environment within which these tasks can be performed without leaving any trace or causing unwanted attention. If you prefer not to engage in such activities, feel free to proceed directly on the hardware (metal) level without using virtual machines. However, if caution is your priority, utilizing VMs will help isolate "on topic" operations and ensure they are temporary and easily reversible by reverting to a previous snapshot or shutting down the guest within the hypervisor environment.


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 No.467807[Reply]

I'm asking my self whether or not the neocons are nothing but blood-dripping salesmen for the arms-industry, and all their ideological stuff is foolishness.

I'm not looking for cheap shots, like proving they never achieve their stated goals like "winning the war on terror". Just assume it's part of their strategy to lie about their true goals.

I used to think that they were both effective at generating profits for the arms industry and also furthering US imperial power. But I don't think that anymore.

For example the wars in the middle east caused something like a war-chaos-belt that separated Europe from Asia and prevented the formation of "Ꭼurꭺsian" (loaded term) economic integration that could potentially become an economic block that would be many times more powerful than the US. So in that sense you could look at the failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on as somewhat effective at maintaining US hegemonic power.

But it turns out that it wasn't the case. The conclusion that most analysts are drawing now is that the US wasted a bunch of time and effort fucking up the Arabs. And was nothing but a distraction that allowed China to grow into an economic powerhouse that is now more or less untouchable for the foreseeable future.

The Ukraine crisis again follows a similar structure, it seemed like a viable way to separate Russian-German economic cooperation by creating a trade-disrupting war-zone and political-capital for economic separation, so that economic integration may not lead to a Russo-European economic block that would have been more powerful than the US.

But it turns out that this wasn't the case either. The result of the Ukraine crisis is:

Sino-Russian economic integration. Which might lead to the formation of a much more powerful economic block than the Russo-European one. But the consequences don't stop at undoing the Sino-Soviet split. It also has killed the economic power of Europe which means that a potential Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ (loaded term) economic block is much weaker now.
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 No.477440

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The neocons are planning to seize the frozen Russian assets in order to continue funding the Ukraine proxy war.

Western finance went REEEEEE DON'T, this will trash our reputation and spook the investors

The Unintended Consequences of Seizing Russian Assets
https://internationalbanker.com/news/why-attempts-to-divert-frozen-russian-assets-could-seriously-damage-the-wests-credibility/
<the West is persisting in its endeavours, with a proposal to use frozen public Russian assets to finance Ukraine
<For many other countries, however, freezing Russian assets is widely perceived as a method the US-led West employs to weaponise its primary currencies. The European Central Bank warned in June that using interest-rate proceeds from the frozen assets could prompt other central banks to “turn their backs” on the euro,
<“The implications could be substantial: it may lead to a diversification of reserves away from euro-denominated assets, increase financing costs for European sovereigns and lead to trade diversification,” the note added. And Bank of America analysts led by Michael Hartnett recently noted in a report that “US dollar debasement is the ultimate outcome as the dollar is weaponized in a new era of sanctions.”
<Such fears are thus expediting not only the ongoing global trend of de-dollarisation but also the construction of viable alternative financial systems by China or even Russia.
<nations and regions have accelerated efforts in recent months towards arrangements aimed at reducing their dependence on the dollar. At the heart of these de-dollarisation initiatives is the fear in many capitals that the US could someday use the power of its currency to target them the way it has sanctioned Russia
<Indeed, central banks are already calling back their offshore gold assets to domestic storage facilities in increasing quantities over such fears.
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 No.481614

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=AaLX8ozOJRA
Starting at 1:09:00 Alexander Mercouris sums up how the Neocons managed to unite all of the US's adversaries and make them forge alliances, creating a geopolitical opponent that is so large and powerful that it will be indomitable. And the irony is that the early neocons from the 70s like Brzezinski, warned about this.
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 No.481616

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>>481614
I feel like the neocons ultimately got exactly what they wanted though: an enemy so large that they can justify another massive spending spree on their friends in the military industry.
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 No.481620

>>481616
Yeah you might be right the neocons may simply be motivated by Number go up for defense contractors. And there is no grand strategy or anything.

But an arms race against all that ?

The US and the EU plus a few other countries just lost at war supply logistics against just Russia in Ukraine. I can't fathom trying that against a block that is over an order of magnitude larger.
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 No.482312

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=e2fHem1IjK0

Consider the following:
The neocon Ukraine scheme resulted in Russian relations with ROC (South Korea) withering and they now went for an alliance with the DPRK (North Korea). Including a mutual defense agreement and military exchange.

Neocon sanctions damaged Venezuelan oil production, resulting in Cuba no longuer getting fuel from Venezuela. The neocon sanction against Russia eliminated any incentive the Russians had to not break the blockade against Cuba. The Russians have begun sending fuel and other exports to Cuba.

Add up these developments to other events like the severing of German-Russian economic ties via hijacking of EU foreign policy and the Nordstream gas pipeline sabotage, or the reversal of the Sino-Soviet split by antagonizing both Russia and China at the same time.

I can see a pattern emerging
The neocons are trying to revert the international relations to how it was during the depths of the cold war.

Conclusions
I think the neocons realized that they personally flourished during the cold-war political climate, but when the detente came, all that went away, and society turned towards peace-makers instead. That's why they are trying to recreate those conditions. They simply are optimizing for rising personal careers as cold-warriors, and that's it. Nothing else. All the damage they are causing to the west's geopolitical status , because that strategy no longer works in present material conditions, isn't part of their considerations.

I'm proposing to call this political solipsism


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 No.481725[Reply]

there is not one reason why i should help them or make their life easier. they generalize and exagerate about every government on earth ever. they lie through their teeth as natural as as they breath. they take advantage of the progressive zeitgeist that happen in society. they take advantage of everybody lying about nation/tribe/etc that are againts the libtard view of the world. they take advantage of people not caring but still having the drive to bully the non-"""normie""" part of society. not a single healthy society from the stone age up to now allow them to speak. THEY SHOULD BE ROPED!!!! when we have a new hammer&sickle revolution they should- no- MUST! THEY MUST BE ROPED!!!!
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 No.481951

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>>481725
The world was better before SJW.
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 No.482200

>>481951
So just to be clear: "class reductionism" is a word that feds made up, doesn't exist and politics focused on gender and race are called identity politics and are counter-revolutionary, did I get that right? I just want to know that I'm not crazy for believing this.
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 No.482206

>>481951
>>482200
That's RIGHT!!!!
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 No.482223

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>>482200
Das right, uyghur. The core of identarism (= "racism", "sexism", "ageism", "ableism", "classism" ("people of means") & so on) is social division cringed on inherent characteristics of individuals & specific groups & subsequent ruling over the unleashed societal chaos. The more chaos is there @ the bottom, the more order there is @ the top.
If they like to tug the rope so much, let them do that with their actually fucking privileged necks. They do not want to dismantle the system of killing alienation, they only want to better their own positions in it by means of societal discrimination, & therefore they are the most rabid pro-system anticommunists of our times since they are the middle class of the present world.

>>481725
They are not persons, they are system-serving fascists.
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 No.482302

>>482223
>classifying 'billionaire' as a slur
Good. This is funny and provocative.


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 No.482164[Reply]

So, Saudi Arabia is ditching the prtodollar. Isn't that wild?
What does /leftypol/ make of this one?
Thoughts? Feelings? What's going on?
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 No.482188

Things have been set in motion that can't be turned back now. A big question I'd like answered is whether or not Modern Monetary Theory still applies when you're no longer the world's currency hegemon.


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 No.482189

>>482188
>Things have been set in motion that can't be turned back now.
Technically the US could do a massive political shift away from militarism towards civilian production of goods, and then the rest of the world would try to buy those goods and the Dollar exodus would reverse. The US has a lot of natural resources, a large workforce and a lot of high tech know how that makes this possible. The probability of that happening is somewhat low. The more likely outcome is that no significant political shift occurs and the currently gradual Dollar exodus will go on for a while, but as more and more feedback mechanisms kick in it'll begin to accelerate and follow the curve of an inverted logistical distribution.

>A big question I'd like answered is whether or not Modern Monetary Theory still applies when you're no longer the world's currency hegemon.

Yes and No. The value theory parts of MMT were never correct, regardless of the currency hegemony status. The political application of MMT can still work. Specifically the public sector economy can print money to hire every last employment-excluded citizen as long as those people are instructed to do productive labor (in the strict Marxist definition) and there would be no resulting increase in inflation. There are some caveats, this assumes the US chooses a geo-political path of a managed de-dollarization with a soft-landing. If they continue down the path of ramping up militarism, currency wars and trade wars it'll cause a hard landing with significant inflation pressure, that would make MMT schemes more difficult.
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 No.482197

>>482189
Controlling inflation is as simple as a government-mandated price freeze. The US itself has done it at least twice in history. Inflation isn't controlled, or rather, is actively sought out, because it's a policy to keep workers desperate and difficult to organize.
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 No.482208

The best way to beat inflation long-term is by controlling inflation in land prices - IE taxing the shit out of land speculation so that it becomes unprofitable and land prices drop.
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 No.482214

>>482197
>>482208
So you want to take on big real estate hedge funds like Blackrock ? What's your "game-plan" for doing that ?


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 No.482116[Reply]

Our society is organized by identity. We have systems that recognize somebodies identity and that grants/denies access to powers and resources. While that mostly works, we might be able to do better. I propose as an alternative that we organize around deeds instead, and have systems recognize actions rather than identities.

History of identities
Early tribal societies used identities and lineages to prevent inbreeding. In slave societies identity was used to keep track of slaves. And in feudal societies identities were used to attach hereditary political power to people. Identity also served persecution alot, for example: which hunting, or in ww2 the Nazis holocausting the Jews. States use identity to attempt to conscript-nap people and force them to wage wars.

Anonymity
This is what enabled many slaves to free them selves. It is what enabled many Jews to evade the extermination camps. It also is necessary for democracy, because votes have to be anonymous in order to prevent coerced votes. Anonymity became a political value during the beginning of the bourgeois revolutions, and are conceptually based on early cities where masses of people had to cooperate without being able to know everybody.

examples for proof of deed, recognize action instead of identity
We already use some systems that recognize action but not identity. For example when you buy a ticket for amusement rides, the ticket grants you access by proving that you payed for the ride, and there is no need to recognize your identity. Voting systems can also work entirely without identity, people vote anonymously, then stick their thumb into a die that stains the skin for a few days and prevents voting more than once.

Political intentions
Proof of deed systems are better at enabling rewards for beneficial actions, while proof of identity systems skew a lot more towards punishment. Proof of deed systems are less easily abused for persecution. Identities also get abused to establish aristocratic domination (privilege for me and burden for thee). So less persecution, more fairness and motivation by the carrot rather than the stick.

A society of the deed would be anonymous safe for interpersonal relations, and perhaps counter-intuitively also more orderly, since it operates on actions directly. One would have to try it out to know for sure.
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 No.482134

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holy hell nig next you're going to tell me that objective truth doesn't exist you Machfag
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 No.482148

>>482134
>objective truth doesn't exist
>Mach
Where do see that in the opening post ?

Why do you think this proposal would philosophically break with materialism and a conception of objective reality ?
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 No.482150

>>482148
Ok I re-read your op. I thought that you were suggesting that systems of identification drove historical development instead of relations of production.
Is your post instead about information technology? I'm confused about the applications of 'deed actions'. If there were to be incentives for a public program it would need financing whether that be in money or labor time. If that's the case then a coupon only system would shut an organizing party out of doing analytics which would be important for evaluating success outside of a raw number of times a program was accessed. What would be the benefit?
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 No.482161

>>482150
>I thought that you were suggesting that systems of identification drove historical development instead of relations of production.
No, i just added the historic bits for context.
>Is your post instead about information technology?
I suppose it would also have an effect on that as well, to be honest i haven't thought that far ahead. I ranted about bio-metrics because i think that it is foolish, and this was just another opportunity to bring that up.
>I'm confused about the applications of 'deed actions'.
You are going too fast, I'm not yet thinking about applications, to me this is in the stage where we think about the philosophy of organizing principles. Most of our current systems of organizing, at the most fundamental level begin with detecting the identity of people interacting with it. I think it's possible that we might do better with systems that center on detecting actions instead of identities. Conceptually the next thought would be to figure out all the ways to recognize an action.
>If there were to be incentives for a public program it would need financing whether that be in money or labor time.
Not yet, i think we would have to begin experimenting in a setting where the stakes are lower. I think this is a very novel idea and it will require trial and error to get a bearing on what works and what doesn't.
>If that's the case then a coupon only system would shut an organizing party out of doing analytics which would be important for evaluating success outside of a raw number of times a program was accessed. What would be the benefit?
This is a reasonable starting point. A coupon for a deed, that would be a system that centers on recognizing actions. Obviously that won't be sufficient. The coupon system would fall short in many ways. Once you collected experience, you can formulate additional structures to compensate for those shortcomings. Figuring this out would be a process. It's not going to be just one mechanism, it'll be multiple ones working in concert.


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 No.480629[Reply]

I have been banned from leftypol.org for saying, that you can be a leftist and also oppose trans-ideology. This is not a fringe position, since Sahra Wagenknecht openly voiced her opposition against trans-ideology in the german parliament live on TV. And yes, she calls it that way.
I'm interested, how this site here will react to left-conservative opinions.
https://www.sahra-wagenknecht.de/de/article/3336.ihr-gesetz-macht-eltern-und-kinder-zu-versuchskaninchen-der-pharmaindustrie.html
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 No.482154

>>482149
The Arabs/Muslims were never part of the "Israeli" project and have no reason to ever want to be part of such a beast. Political purges imply that standing members of the party are beholden to the party. You can't fight City Hall as a subject.

The Palestinians have always refused to be subjects, and only regard the Entity so far as they must abide something monstrously evil to get the Zionist to go away. "Purge" implies that there was any friendship of the political sort between them. You would not speak of purging society except by institutions which can claim the minds and souls of everyone against their will. That would be religion, except the participants here follow very different religions that are diametrically opposed and know this. So there is one way for purging to work - schools, and mind control efforts.
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 No.482155

>>482153
The challenges of purges are that political officers see a purge as something they must prevent to save themselves, and purges are only possible with loyal officers. Stalin cannot personally purge 50 gorillion Russians with his bare hands - that's not how it went down, and purges are never led by imperious will. They are led by factions within a party, against rival factions and through institutions that were under the command of political officers. Every general in an army knows who their bosses are, and the dangers of becoming their own boss if they think about history for five minutes.
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 No.482156

>>482152
>The Nazi MO is that only members of their club were "real".
The internal loyalty in Fascist political formations wasn't that great, they did a lot of back-stabbing.
>The point of the Nazis was to maximize the thrill of torture
From the perspective of the sadistic assholes they enlisted perhaps, but from a historic perspective fascism would appear to be national suicide on behalf of the most powerful capitalists. In WW2 you could see Germany being sacrificed to damage the Soviet Union. Japan in a way was sacrificed too, they could have surrendered to China or the Soviets, which would have spared them a lot of US Areal bombardment with fire bombs and of course the 2 nukes.

>when dealing with actual enemies, the Nazis were lazy and ineffectual

There is a history of fascists choosing bad strategy, so i'll give you ineffectual, but lazy ? I don't think so.

>The people the Nazis purged were poor people who did nothing to them except look unsightly and fail to fit into their race-faggotry.

Interesting thought, however the top figures in the Nazi movements were not attractive or "well put together". The Nazi movie villains tend to have a particular fashion style, but if you look at actual historic pictures, not so much.

>as long as they had someone to kick down, they were safe - until they were not.

Yeah it does look like Fascism creates these sacrificial hierarchies.
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 No.482157

>>482153
>For our personal political affairs, purging the Satanic is simple - we simply do not allow them inroads into life ever again, and destroy any insinuation the moment it starts. This would require a social engineering strategy working against the dominant one. That is - we would be declaring war against this society.

Declaring war against society seems like bad advice tho. For successful mass politics you have to divert most of your efforts towards elevating the beneficial things, obviously some effort has to be diverted to prevent wreckers from derailing the political goals, but that can not be the priority.
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 No.482158

>>482155
>The challenges of purges are that political officers see a purge as something they must prevent to save themselves, and purges are only possible with loyal officers. Stalin cannot personally purge 50 gorillion Russians
Reasonably unbiased historians estimated that Stalin's purges affected between 1800 and 3000 people during his roughly 30 year in political office. I'm not going to judge the morality of that, because those were a very different times and i don't know how to weigh things like facing an existential struggle in the world wars, nearly a century removed from that.

I'm only looking at this from the point of view of political strategy. Take for example a few years ago that situation in Venezuela, where that CIA-guido tried to usurp the Maduro government. Maduro could have cracked down hard, because of attempted sedition and treason, but he did no such thing, eventually the wrecker just faded into obscurity. That's what we want.


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What are we to do with the ever-increasing agespan of adolescence?
This is a serious problem in the first and second world.
Why is it normalised to waste away your teens and twenties (AND THIRTIES!!!) in quiet despair and zero technical skills?

Generation X and Millennials have normalised mediocrity in youth.
They even say worldly exposure/attributes in youth are elitist.
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 No.481670

>>481668
I understand that the capitalists did universal education because they needed more educated workers, and a place to store the children while parents wage-slaved. But that doesn't make it a bad thing, the Soviets and all the other socialist projects did the same thing, they also send children to school.

However I'm willing to hear you out on what you think Marx wanted and how it differs from what capitalism did.
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 No.481672

>>481670
Marx said children should start working st age nine and be given moderate hours
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 No.481673

>>481672
In the 18 hundreds children often began working in the fields or factories when they were six years old and often had to work long shifts.

I can't be bother to check if your assertion is true.
So if Marx suggested to raise the work-force entry-age to 9 years as well as reducing the hours to "moderate" , that would make him somebody who sought to reduce child-labor, relative to the usual praxis of his time.
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 No.481707

>>481673
regardless I think kids should be involved in theprocess of industriaility.

Adults accuse kids of being lazy leeches but ban kids from the real world.

Also, academic skills dont mean shit in the real world.
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 No.482101

I think this needs to be discussed more.
People complain about ableism amd ageism but then talks about "brain development" as an excuse to disqualify young people from worldly affairs.


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https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Them-vs-Us_CTUP-Rasmussen-Study-FINAL.pdf



The survey is a first-of-its-kind look at the views of the American Elite – defined as people having at least one post-graduate degree, earning at least $150,000 annually, and living in high-population density areas (more than 10,000 people per square mile in their zip code) – and compares them to what the average American thinks. The Elites represent 1% of the U.S. population but have an outsized voice on public policy in the United States, with their views seeming somehow to dominate the national conversation. This may be because it is the Elites themselves who determine what that conversation will be about on campus, in the legacy media, and corporate board rooms. Not surprisingly, these people talk about politics far more than most Americans. The data show that nearly a third of them (30%) talk about politics daily or almost every day. Just 9% of the voting public do. It is worth noting that members of the Elites who talk about politics daily have views that are even further removed from the opinions of the voting public. This is true even when the Elites self-identify as Republicans. They typically may be more conservative than Elite Democrats but they still have attitudes and opinions that are far removed from those of the typical American voter. The Elite class – regardless of party – is an exclusive club that sees and experiences America through a different lens than ordinary Americans.

These results confirm what people have long suspected: today, there are two Americas. One is wealthier, more highly educated, and attended the best schools. They put much more trust in big government “to do the right thing” and, by their own admission, benefit from more expansive government policies. They have also been hurt far less by the high inflation of the Biden presidency than those who live from paycheck to paycheck and are in the lower and middle classes.

This Grand Canyon-sized chasm between where every day Americans stand on the state of the country, expanding government power, draconian climate change solutions, and Joe Biden’s job performance may partly explain the Donald Trump phenomenon and his high approval ratings among working-class voters,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.478794

>>478792
stay in your own thread schizo
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 No.479313

ffs upload .pdf
Not hard
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 No.481964

>>478794
It's a pretty accurate take, if you don't or can't read just ignore it.
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 No.481971

>>481964
>necrobumping to defend schizospammer
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 No.482225

>>481971
>seethe so hard you forget about sage


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