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 No.460105[Reply]

>revolution will never happen in the first wo- YAKC!

https://truthout.org/video/stakes-are-high-for-workers-so-unions-are-mobilizing-for-midterms/

>Polls show 70% of American people support unionization
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 No.460229

>>460170
>Let's be honest, though–radical violence gets recruits
Maybe a few adventurists, but you don't get the support of the masses that way. Socialism has to be about the masses.

>>460183
>Mad Max or Fallout apocalypse would be much more mundane than people imagine it to be. Think more along the lines of starvation and cholera rather than cool "le epic" gang fights in modified junk cars.
Dystopian Sci Fi is unrealistic, because these societal collapses are very short in duration. People will reconnect the industrial linkages and restore/repair most of what was lost. It's just that many people will die for no reason during the industrial interruption. The kind of people we see flourishing in Mad Max style movies are basically the same as warlords in imperial resource extraction colonies. I think it's ideology to think that these people could thrive without empire. It's an ideological conception for some kind of "natural state" of society.
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 No.461568

>>460148
If terrorism is so good at radicalizing the proletariat, then why didn't it do it in the 60s and 70s, when every other leftist was toting guns and planting bombs?
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 No.461610

>>461568
In what way was terrorism not good for radicalizing people in the 60s and 70s? It was a huge part of the insurrections and civil wars that characterized the period.
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 No.461915

I think that you're missing the point here. Are these people supporting new unions, or AFL-CIO unions? AFL-CIO unions are actively cucking to the actions of Congress and the big bourgeoisie, so unless you have a plan to salt them and bring change or(much more likely) create new systems altogether for class struggle, I don't think this is the flex you think it is. Ask anyone you know what the IBEW or the UFT is like, and they will tell you the same story; little representation in negotiations, constant loss of bargaining power due to increasing workforce(ergo inexperienced workers that cannot provide the same quality), revisionist and outright bourgeois representatives. It's Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution to a textbook level. I suppose there's nothing we can do on our own to find out what the data actually means by that though.
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 No.461946

>>461915
Also workers in general are to stupid to understand how unions work. I'm dead serious. At my old job that was union everyone would constantly bitch about the union but never participate in meetings or do anything to support it.


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 No.442165[Reply]

It has been said often that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. This being said, there seem to be quite a lot of boycotts regardless. Are we to interpret each and all of these boycotts as being futile attempts to reconcile a lack of ethical consumption under Capitalism? Is there reason to participate in boycotts if all consumption under Capitalism is unethical anyway?

Is all consumption equally unethical?
Is there any meaningful difference between purchasing items like clothing or computers brand new vs. used?

I guess these are novice questions. I hope these aren't considered gauche.
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 No.461774

>>461773
>inb4 Android is linux too
ok, GNU+Linux lol
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 No.461775

>>461772
>I don't know, i guess they made contracts that stipulated good working conditions for their suppliers. They'd have to send inspectors to make sure there is compliance.
do you seriously think they send inspectors to china and taiwan?
also, it's not just immediate inputs, they would need to inspect the whole supply chain down to the African lithium mines and russian gas suppliers lol

>Google has more leverage over electronics suppliers they can get exactly the hardware they specify, small companies like fair-phone probably have to use mostly off the shelf components.

how is this relevant to them requiring my identifying information to unlock a bootloader?
Google doesn't ask me for no IMEI or serial
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 No.461776

>>461775
>do you seriously think they send inspectors to china and taiwan?
>they would need to inspect the whole supply chain
Here read it for your self
https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/good-working-conditions/
I don't really know what all of that means, but i think they outsourced inspections.
My guess is mixed results, parts of the workers do get better conditions but it's not 100%

>>461775
>how is this relevant to them requiring my identifying information to unlock a bootloader?
I guess that sucks but, isn't this how most android phones are unlocked ? This probably came with the soc, i doubt they intentionally chose to make a convoluted boot-loader unlocking parkour.
The pixel phone has a dedicated security chip ( i think it's called Titan) that handles boot security, as far as i know google designed that chip, and therefore they can have custom functionality. Small companies can't yet design their own chips, maybe with RISK5 that will be easier.
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 No.461779

>>461776
>This probably came with the soc, i doubt they intentionally chose to make a convoluted boot-loader unlocking parkour.
so what, this soc that handles boot security is shipped with an unique code by the manufacturer to unlock this particular bootloader?

why haven't these databases been leaked then yet?
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 No.461942

Is it ethical for America to import 5 million people a year and raise them up to western levels of consumption? How is t h at good for the planet? Even if you don't believe in global warming it seems wrong, but as democrats we are forced to destroy the planet if we want to replace the white people with people of color.


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 No.461922[Reply]

Been reading late 90s interviews with the former soviet top administrative functionaries, and holy shit all of them are retarded beyond belief. No wonder they crashed the ship with no survivors.

Baybakov, who was for 20 years the head of Gosplan until 1985, and before that a minister under Stalin, sacked by Khruschev from Gosplan for being against his sovnarkhoz reform, is basically a dengoid with a Stockholm syndrome because he got bullied by Kaganovich and Beria lol. Kaganovich would swear at him and call him names and Beria one time threatened to shoot him if he couldn't supply Baku's oil (Baybakov was a wartime minister of oil).
The sheer incoherence of his views is astonishing. One the one hand he defends central planning and says there was no crisis and Gorbachev fucked up everything and says how planning methodology and technology was advancing, but the constant erosion of planning discipline and widespread lobbying in CPSU by ministries, republics and other interest groups undermined these advances, makes some redpilled comments that if soviet union had hidden inflation then by the same logic capitalist countries have hidden deficit, and how the western theory of soft budgetary constraints is a product of western imagination because soviet union never just printed money, it got revenue from material economic activity, and the major battlefield for various interest groups was the limited investment budget for every plan period.
But on the other hand he is delusional that central planning and price controls can coexist with the private property, that dengism is the way to go, that mixed economy is a stable construction, and that there will be a place for Gosplan planning in this mixed economy lol even tho western social democracy begun crumbling long before the interview.
He thinks that Kosygin reform was a path to dengism and to the saving of the soviet union, but at the same time he whines about the practical results of enterprise financial self-sufficiency, how some enterprises were hoarding profits while the central government was struggling.
It's very weird, he says that all the economic problems were because of the lack of planning discipline in fulfilling the plans, but at the same time he thinks that Kosygin reform that weakened the planning discipline even more was the way to solve soviet problems lol. It's incoherent.

And he is the least retarded of the all interviewees lol. Next will be Bachurin, Baybakov'Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.461937

>>461936
just call them chinks, it's more honest, dude
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 No.461938

>>461937
nothing to do with ethnicity
dengism is a state of mind, dengoid
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 No.461939

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This is the candy the Dengists took from me. Notice the thief Dengist's disregard for my visible discomfort.
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 No.461940

>>461939
dengism is a capitalist ideology just like social democracy
seethe
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 No.461941

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The first Dengist in my life? My twin sibling. This is when she stole my pacifier from me. That moment I swore an oath to combat international (((dengism))) in all its wicked manifestation.


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 No.456240[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This declared war has greater dimensions than Ukraine, and its goal is to qualify Russia to lead the world and to lead the axis of resistance and to rehabilitate Putin, who has a black history of seizing power, liquidating his opponents, violating the rights of the Russians, and trading power with Medvedev for decades, qualifying him to lead the axis of resistance. Which includes Iran, the Islamic resistance, the Palestinian and the Yemeni as well.. This is how the West hopes that Putin will become qualified to lead the peoples with the right judges. And to reproduce the old polarization with the Soviet Union, which was somewhat comfortable and did not threaten Israel in terms of existence as the resistance threatens Israel. If this situation indicates anything, it indicates that the real conflict exists, even if it is not visible, between Russia and the axis of resistance over the leadership of the peoples, and not between the United States and Russia. Putin is a creation of the West, not a representative of the Russian people. And now his view of Dugin has entered the line, and the goal of assassinating his daughter may be to float his Eurasian project, which is the new incubator of Israel.
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 No.461203

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While sharing in the World Cup Tournament and celebrating its winning over Argentina in Dawha , the KSA executed today 17 prisoners by decapitation . Very sportive indeed and very world cup inspiring . This is simply disgusting, and these gulf countries that are normalizing with israel have confiscated the Arab identity. So, when they win , it is the Arabs that have won and we have to celebrate and embrace their victory and make it ours . Fie to such claim and assumption . Those who kill and decapitate and dismember and fund ISIS and promote terror and create havoc do not represent Arabs nor do they represent the Arab values that are noble values . A true Arab will reach for other nations who share the same values like Iran and Latin American countries . The true Arabs are the Heroes of Lebanon and Palestine and Yemen and not some hired stooge who kills mercilessly and wants to be promoted as the best in the football field. This is really pathetic . They have turned everything into a trade and have ruined Sports.
Dawha is not the best place for such tournament . There is nothing there in Dawha except money .. Money and normalization with israel and the largest US military base in the region and maybe in the world . This is what the World Cup this year is about. A poor environment indeed to host such a big event .
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 No.461241

This thread is the very image of intellectual masturbation.
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 No.461870

Entire thread reads like a GPT-3 bot. Free speech is for humans, not bots.
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 No.461908

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The conquest of the new world in the 15th century was not a singular endeavor it was a global endeavor in which many countries shared and the church also . the European invasion to what was thought to be India came as a surprise to the Natives of that area who were not prepared to such intrusion and who never thought that there lived on earth hordes of barbaric people for whom nothing existed but material greed. They never thought that such blood thirsty vultures existed on earth and they were overwhelmed by such discovery and could not get their act together to face the challenge . The vicious endeavor was a real success in the southern and the northern continent and more so in the northern continent where the genocide of the Natives was also a cultural genocide and worked on uprooting the very existence of the Natives cultural wise. The native languages were erased and so were their religious practices . This successful bloody attempt was certainly very inspiring, and the European predators sought to spread it all over the world and that is why they repeated it in Palestine; and this time instead of sending the outlaws of Columbus or the Puritans of the English kingdom they sent the Zionist Jews to colonize Palestine and massacre the original population like they massacred the Native indigenous in the Americas .
The narrative that accompanied this invasion was also a religious narrative like the Puritan narrative for they had a different notion of good and evil and took their greed for deservation of what wrongly belonged to others . But this endeavor in Palestine was not a success like the one that happened in the new continent and in Australia for the Natives had learned a lesson and the colonialists were received differently by the Red Indians of Yemen and Lebanon and Palestine . The Resistance of the people is what the European blood thirsty predators are facing In Palestine , in Lebanon , in Yemen and in Iran, and everything we are witnessing right now in terms of colored Revolutions and Arab springs and terrorism and war in Ukraine is because of the Resistance of the people . The world powers cannot overcome such Resistances that are sometimes highly inspired and motivated and receptors of the heritage of a long struggle .
What the colonialists are trying to do is go around this challenge by creating fake Revolutions and soft wars and promoting terrorism and spreading diseases and reproducing the polarity pattern that put states in confrontPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.461909

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In order to promote the world escalating polarity between US and Russia that is triggered and has no foundation , Putin inaugurates in Moscow with the presence of the Cuban president a big statue that represents leader Castro . This happens as a commemoration of 60 years on the missiles crisis that happened between the USA and the USSR in the sixties . Thus Putin is bringing up again the USSR history of Russia . This is to say that nothing can be further from Castro than Putin himself ; Castro, who during his life never permitted that a statue of him be raised or allowed that a street be named after him, has nothing to do with Putin whose self promotion campaigns had conquered the social media picturing him sometimes as riding the Grizzly bear or taming the tiger or riding proudly the horse like an American cow boy or scoring in Judo . Castro had banned all sorts of cults of personality that he described as anti revolutionary while Putin does not miss one opportunity to promote his image .


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 No.294972[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

VERSIÓN 2.0
The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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 No.454775

¿Alguién tiene un artículo u algo sobre las causas de la crisis venezolana? Parece como si todo lo que encuentro no dice nada fuera de "los comunistas comen wawas"…
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 No.454784

>>451859
bukele recibió unos cuantos shekels por parte de ""emprendedores"" de las cripto ""monedas"" para darle un poco de credibilidad a ese bulo
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 No.455299

>>435225
Fuera de hispa/pol/ no esta tan mal al menos no esta tan boteado como el 4chanclas
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 No.455399

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Por favor que alguien me diga que la infraestructura de internet en latam ya no es así.
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 No.461843

Castillo is gone
¿que se sienten Peruanons?


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 No.437674[Reply]

During these hard times (when vols kill vols) I thought that it would be more than appropriate to start an /EPG/ since for months I've seen users complaining about the lack of effort posts on leftypol.

In any case…

What is an effort post, you might ask? An "effort post" is a response written by a comrade that goes beyond the level of "fuck you" and putting effort into detailing his or her position.

Please be shameless, and plug your OWN effort posts ITT.

I would recommend the userbase to actually address said effort posts in their perspective threads, and the effort-posters to shamelessly screenshoot said posts here for future generations.

I'll start:
>on Caleb Maupin's intellectual enterprise:
>>437615
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 No.447074

>>447073
come back at me when you are prepared to shred your po-mo post-ironic stance and come down to our real situation

until then: enjoy your high ground
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 No.447075

>>447074
I am autistic, I do not have a sense of irony
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 No.447076

>>447075
I'm anti-autistic. (It's an actual and SERIOUS condition, look it up!) The symptoms include:
1. not being able to look at the world through a post-ironic lense.
2. being an actual pragmatic communist.
3. fuck you.
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 No.451045

Should be revived.
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 No.461803

bump


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 No.461565[Reply]

What is the viability of the civil disobedience campaigns such as these garbage protests by the Young Lords in 1960s Harlem? Are there any successful more recent examples of such tactics, or have the police adapted to counter them?
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 No.461694

>>461685
>>461689
The cops are not in the habit of providing statistics on the people they kill.
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 No.461697

>>461694
t. has no idea how police departments function
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 No.461698

>>461697
Do you mean that there are statistics compiled regarding the individuals who were killed by cops? Show me.
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 No.461699

>>461698
Every bullet a cop shoots has to be accounted for in reports, you don't think they catalog kills too?
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 No.461700

>>461699
Of course they do, but they sure as hell don't make those numbers public, nor, do I imagine, does each department give those numbers to other departments. That's why I said, "show me."


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 No.369405[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

While there are surely some people interested in Maoism on /leftypol/, the tendency has no noticeable presence here. From my observation Maoism has been gaining traction in socialist communities online recently. Though the ideology's influence is still relatively small, I'm optimistic that we're witnessing the earlier stages of Maoists winning leadership in the movements of the working class which will result in the reconstitution of Communist Parties guided by MLM. I started this thread to spur investigation and discussion amongst potential comrades.

Why Maoism? https://tjen-folket.no/index.php/en/2019/08/14/why-maoism-what-is-maoism/
"Maoism is developed in the first place by six great communist leaders: Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Gonzalo."
"The rightist line led China back to capitalism, and dismantled the dictatorship of the proletariat into a fascist state. (…) But the cultural revolution and Mao Zedong Thought inspired millions of people all over the world, and led to the creation of a number of new communist parties on a revolutionary basis. They started people’s wars in Peru, India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Nepal."
"Gonzalo and the PCP maintain that Mao’s mass line, the line for the protracted people’s war and the line for the cultural revolution are the foremost examples of Maoism’s universal applicability, along with Maoism’s advancement of Marxism’s philosophy and economy."
"Gonzalo Thought is Maoism applied to the concrete conditions for revolution in Peru, but it is the universal conclusions in these thoughts that apply to the rest of the world."

Maoist Resources:
http://www.marx2mao.com/
http://www.massline.org/
https://www.bannedthought.net/
https://struggle-sessions.com/

https://www.reddit.com/r/catsaysmao/comments/mahczm/mega_thread_on_maoism_and_a_debunk_of_all_of_the/
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 No.454875

>>454869
>climate bollocks are a "fair point"
die faggot
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 No.455147

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My first video, produced in Kdenlive.

For creative application of materialist dialectics to hopeless conditions!
For the mass line and people's war!
For the anti-rightist campaign and cultural revolution!
For the communes!
Proletarians of all countries, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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 No.455148

>>454875
You will never be a great socialist leader.
You will never change a single persons mind
You WILL LIVE IN your echochamber
You WILL stay in your elitist cliques.
You will never build socialism.
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 No.461564

The PPW specifically refers to the military strategy for a semi-feudal country, with nowhere near the level of communications a modern imperialist state has. In our world(let's be honest maybe like one of you doesn't live in an imperialist country), where legions of cops or soldiers can go to any location in the country in a matter of hours(especially if you live in burgerland), what is the new military strategy of the proletariat then?

This is not to say to discredit all of MLM and its thought, simply the idea that "PPW is universal", which generalizes the term beyond all meaning.
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 No.461613

>>461564
It has been so long since PPW has had any success whatsoever, that I think that it can be safely consigned to military history.


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 No.361470[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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 No.461508

>>461499
The primary source was a guy who was in Canada when it happened?
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 No.461511

>>461508
Are you retarded?
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 No.461512

>>461511
That's exactly what it is, though, isn't it? A guy who was in Canada was the primary source.
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 No.461513

>>461512
So you are retarded
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 No.461514

>>461543
How dare I contradict your questionable source who couldn't have seen any of what he was talking about or who might have had any bias regarding the subject!


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 No.461327[Reply]

One of my more embarassing conversations with a liberal recently was when they asked me how one should prevent the degeneration of armed self-defense groups into rackets, the same way the black street gangs went. I didn't have an answer. What is the best idea of the people here?
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 No.461332

Gangs become.gangs because of the need to fund their organizations. Communists do not dabke in the world of profits.
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 No.461336

You don't.
Mao said political power is born out of the barrel of a gun, henceforth true democracy can only be achieved by assigning everybody their own personal nuclear warhead at birth.
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 No.461338

>>461327
Not an answer but another example of this happening would be the IRA. After the Good Friday Agreement they started doing some vigilantism by taking out drug dealers and their operations. However after doing this some of their members started to allegedly sell off the dealer's stock and took over the drug market in parts of Ireland and the UK. They're also involved in a bunch of other criminal shit, which is what most of the IRA does now.

I guess the Colombian guerillas could be accused of doing something similar with the cocaine trade, but at least they're using the money to fund their armed struggle.
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 No.461340

>>461327
>how one should prevent the degeneration of armed self-defense groups into rackets
When?
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 No.461440

I think the simplest answer is making sure that members are brought in with the expectation and duty to serve the people first with whatever they might need at that time, rather than going straight to arming them. Either they will give up and become a criminal somewhere else or become conscious of the people's needs and prove themselves as an honest member.


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