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 No.493455[Reply]

Also btw according to polls 14% of americans support communism, and like twice that support socialism. Your numbers are probably conservative, there's a large pool of potential recruits out there if we could reach them and utilize their very limited time, energy, and resources effectively.

While networks of extremely dedicated and disciplined communists will form the backbone of the proletarian state, large numbers of the masses will have to be brought into conspiracy against the bourgeois state and in material support of the proletarian armed forces.
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 No.493456

>>493455
>Also btw according to polls 14% of americans support communism, and like twice that support socialism
These numbers are definitely far larger in reality.


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 No.481938[Reply]

I am a Liberal
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 No.493345

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 No.493346

Every time I've spoken to a liberal they end up in a weird sex related drama, almost every single time.
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 No.493368

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 No.493369

>>493346
>I'm TRANS and I LIKE TO FUCK GIRLS which means I"M A LESBIAN.
>doesn't put in any effort into presenting as female
many such cases
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 No.493371

>>493369
My liberal friend chased a trans woman and a femboy at the same time and lost both and got kicked out of the community and is now demonized there. I'm still friends with him though but it was funny to watch in real time.


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 No.493357[Reply]

Do I not know where the left discusses stuff online or is there just a lack of such spaces?

I'm going to post the ones I know about that are primarily English, even if they're full of liberals just to keep track of this. Please help me with any that I've missed.

The ones owned and operated by the community:

Imageboards
Leftychan.net - you are here
Leftypol.org
nukechan.net

Lemmy instances
Lemmygrad.ml
Hexbear.net

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 No.493362

>>493361
Twitter is cancer.
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 No.493363

>>493361
>>493362
Oh. Dang, I was hoping there was some larger mainstream space somewhere. I suppose /r/latestagecapitalism at 830k subs is as good as it's going to get.

Oh I just had an idea, are there any forums where working class people shoot the shit? Maybe we can raid them just for fun and banter about communism with them. More of an >>>/i/ topic but you get the picture.
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 No.493364

>>493363
>Oh I just had an idea, are there any forums where working class people shoot the shit?
Most small hobby/interest forums are more-or-less that.
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 No.493365

>>493364
>hobby/interest forums
That leads me back to reddit or chans. Fudge.
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 No.493370

>>493365
NO. No, no.
I'm talking about small forums, not imageboards and absolutely not reddit. Like if you want a larger example of the kind of thing I'm talking about, SomethingAwful. Like that kind of format, but smaller. There are lots of those still around, some for local scenes, music, art, books, cars, etc.


 No.483853[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Party declaration:
https://x.com/ACPMain/status/1815163785134436404

The American Communist Party (ACP) is an organization which aims to reconstitute the historic Communist Party USA, which has become corrupted by federal agents and liberal forces. Look no further than Joe Sims, who supports the genocidal Democratic Party. It was launched in July of 2024, in response to the events of the 32nd Convention of the CPUSA. At this convention, party leadership subverted and betrayed democratic centralism and the freedom of critique which is supposed to follow from it. They claimed to be a genuine Marxist-Leninist party, but the leadership doesn't even follow their own rules. The CPUSA delayed all elections and without a vote made a resolution that they’d basically just campaign for Democrats. Just a bunch of boomers sitting around and writing articles about identity politics rather than organizing.

Already the ACP is far more successful than anyone would have expected from a brand new baby party. They are building reputation locally, taking care of their own communities and making areas safe for children and families to enjoy. Diplomatic ties on the international level have already been established. ACP has garnered more attention in the past couple months than the corrupt, decadent CPUSA leadership has in decades. A huge number of the CPUSA clubs across the entire country had a huge part in making this happen. Will you join up?

Website:
https://acp.us/
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 No.492868

'Chomsky is the Poison of the Left'

Was Infrared right about Chomsky now that the Epstein connection got revealed?
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 No.492894

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>>491561
No. classic Leftypol, Infrared, Stupidpol, leftychan are basically the same sort of userbase.
.org is mostly 20 year old zoomers from r/thedeprogram and r/Greenandpleasant with a mod team who are a bunch of unhinged BPDs.
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 No.493032

The thread about Abrahamic religions being compared to Nazism got gulag'd https://leftychan.net/gulag/ but here is my reply:



Xi Jinping's take is the following (from NYT article https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html
, use addon like Bypass Paywalls Clean if you can't read):

In several surprising passages, given the crackdown that followed, Mr. Xi also told officials to not discriminate against Uighurs and to respect their right to worship. He warned against overreacting to natural friction between Uighurs and Han Chinese, the nation’s dominant ethnic group, and rejected proposals to try to eliminate Islam entirely in China.

“In light of separatist and terrorist forces under the banner of Islam, some people have argued that Islam should be restricted or even eradicated,” he said during the Beijing conference. He called that view “biased, even wrong.”



Furthermore, the Infrared stance seems to be not to disrespect people's religions because it is alienating or something. Infrared's Haz said something like socialism is not just about being right but to correctly articulate their class position.

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 No.493071

>>492894
Leftypol is not twenty year old zoomers. It's mainly people older than that
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 No.493367

>>491561
ogre also censors any mention of .net. But no we don't have any rules to suppress discussion about /acp/ and the fact that ogre does that is more proof that
>[leftypol_mods_are_feds]
Is an actually correct statement. I mean there's no way feds don't know about them.


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 No.493201[Reply]

Sounds crazy, I know, but I think Xi-fans should at least consider the flaws of China's "Do nothing, win" strategy, and how it may paradoxically still lead to its undoing.

The US bourgeoisie knows it can't beat China in head-on conventional warfare. So, it doesn't.

Porky has put a lot of effort since the Vietnam War to avoid making Amerikkkans feels the impacts of US wars of aggression to great success. Despite the amount of conflicts the US is involved in as we speak, anti-war sentiment is negligable. There was nothing like the anti-war movement during Vietnam, which by itself wasn't even strong enough to end the war either. It was the Vietnamese who militarily defeated the US that ended the war.

Amerikkkan reliance on proxies and mercs is the key to maintain the Empire. If they can make China's neighbours fight them in their stead, they they can win, and have East Asia plundered, like they have plundered Eastern Europe since the 90s, to give capitalism another 50 years.

China has failed to counter this problem completely, letting country after country on their borders fall into US hands in recent years. Once friendly countries turned into enemies.
China's rebranded 'socialism in one country' strategy isn't enough to resist US aggression. The US doen't need to do much to blockade Chinese shipping, and block all imports from entering the mainland. Going from "random" drone boats sent from US vallal states, to airstrikes and piracy conducted by US forces themselves, which they have been training for through the recent attacks on Russian and Venezuelan ships.
China can't retaliate against this adequately, due to their lack of bases or proxies of their own around Amerikkkan territory.

China's complete neglegt of this danger may be its downfall. For all their greatness, they cannot last against a neval blockade, land siege and hybrid warfare, the US has been preparing for.

This is why solidarity is so important. Supporting comrades in other countries isn't about kindness. It ensures you will not be attacked by brothers turned against you.
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 No.493223

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>>493201
OP do you have any idea how far ahead China is materially? VERY roughly how advanced a society is can be measured by it's energy usage.

They have 200x the naval manufacturing capacity. They have literally better chemistry and more powerful explosives. They produce half of the steel produced on this planet while the US produces 5%.

You mentioned Taiwan and the navy, but Taiwan is just off the coast of China, they can just sit there and send clouds of drones and whatever the hell else at Taiwan if they wanted to.
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 No.493231

>>493201
>This is why solidarity is so important. Supporting comrades in other countries isn't about kindness. It ensures you will not be attacked by brothers turned against you.
>Meanwhile, the global bourgeoisie has shown extreme amounts of solidarity amongst themselves, to great effectiveness. They are very unified, especially compared to the 1910s, unlike us.

I completely agree with this.
The situation is such that it's down to every single bit of solidarity that can be had.

I agree with the rest, too. The US would lose in a direct war with China - and a direct war against China, Russia, the DPRK, Iran, and whichever BRICS-aligned global south countries decided to join would completely destroy the US's grip on global power and end the existence of its vassal states. With this in mind, the Chinese strategy only seems to leave a huge opening for the US to consolidate global hegemony to such an extent that there are no trading partners who would disregard US sanctions or disobey US marching orders.

The US's strategy relies on mercenaries, proxies, and large scale economic warfare, so this approach which China takes, which seems to allow for individual countries more aligned with China to be attacked and destroyed one by one, seems really ill-advised to say that least. The US's reliance on mercenaries, and its willingness to spread itself thin and take on unreasonable debts… are all vulnerabilities, but not ones that China appears to even be that eager to exploit. Frankly, looking at the US today, it's not impossible to get the impression that the mercenaries took over running the empire some time ago, so I can't even rule out that the US would still be a threat if something like that occurred.
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 No.493264

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>a nuclear power would lose in a war with another nuclear power
Gee, ya think? All of humanity would. Anyone seriously entertaining the notion of a conventional war between nuclear states is a myopic fool.
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 No.493281

>>493264
nukes not real
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 No.493314

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>this is how a labor concentration camp may actually still lose to another labor concentration camp, both of which are under control of the bourgeoisie
kek


 No.493108[Reply]

We know why they don't label mainstream religious beliefs as delusions and why they come up with their numbers-based cope about what constitutes a delusion: because they'd run themselves out of business if they insulted so many people. Ergo, they prioritize money, killing their credibility with everything else. How is one supposed to know whether or not they're drawing out treatment to get more money?

Scientific evidence show that kids a few months younger in a classroom have more adhd "diagnosis". Kids who are in classrooms that don't have 32 pupils but 24nare reduced risk of "adhd". it's a literal scam.

It is Astrology but with institutional funding. Psychology is bullshit. It's just to get easy money.
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 No.493109

Wait, are you talking about psychiatry or psychology anon?
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 No.493110

>>493109
psychiatry and psychology
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 No.493115

>>493110
I feel like one is a science and the other is about making you feel better about being a slave using drugs
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 No.493117

>>493108
It's just astrology but hating the evil narcissists. People eat it up. Half the time every disorder has a comorbidity.
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 No.493251

DSM is so unscientific it actually can't be used to justify research funding lol.
The entire thing is hyper-political as well, the DSM is basically just a board of a handful of psychs who basically deem what is and isn't a disorder based on their personal feels and what way the political winds are blowing, hence why Gender Dysphoria is no longer considered a "disorder" while other Dysphoria's are, Psychopathy isn't treated as a disorder or even trait and DID is totally real despite no the vast majority of the field believing it to be at most a dissociative symptom of BPD.


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 No.493158[Reply]

Now that Maduro is captured, is it likely that Cuba will be invaded? Will there be a civil war in Venezuela later on? This fits up with Israel's attack on Sinwar and the fall of Damascus. Is warfare going to be shorter? Or is it a one off?
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 No.493169

>Now that Maduro is captured
Allegedly.

>is it likely that Cuba will be invaded?

Nah, they're going for Iran next.

>Will there be a civil war in Venezuela later on?

If by later on you mean immediately?
Maybe.

>This fits up with Israel's attack on Sinwar and the fall of Damascus.

The former took over a year, the latter took 13 years.

>Is warfare going to be shorter?

That doesn't seem to be the pattern outside of this. Iraq seemed to indicate that in the '00s, but then Afghanistan kept going for over a decade.
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 No.493190

>>493158
>shorter
It hasn't even started yet, what you're watching is the prelude.
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 No.493209

>>493190
The show must go on


 No.492068[Reply]

>Be Northern Virginia.

>Corporations build hundreds of data centers that receive most internet traffic.


>So much demand for data centers here that they are literally shutting down garden centers to build more data centers



(Not saying we should do any trolling, but AI slop is ruining the internet, sooo…)

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?layerId=0&layers=ffda13ae2bb8433cb1c97258c6474f56
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 No.492069

That's way too many data centers. Having 10 in a small city would already be weird.

I don't think even the average computer enthusiast really appreciates how fast a modern computer is. A top of the line personal computer would be considered a supercomputer in the 90's, like the ones used for rendering CGI for Jurassic Park, or performing nuclear simulations.

And they need that many of them? To brute force solutions to problems that probably aren't socially applicable, and only work 95% of the time at best?

Clearly there is something wrong here, and there is an incredible waste of resources.

Like after all that, can they even make a robot that will do my dishes? Even with a dish washing machine? I have yet to see that. They couldn't get self-driving cars to work after decades, so I think we're finally seeing this AI shit peak.

And you know what, I'm glad, because at first this AI stuff seemed like it would really might get to human levels of intelligence. I'm happy it's really just a toy.

And maybe I should be happy in the short term that this is where they're putting surplus value - into making computer chips that turn electricity into heat, instead of more weapons and war or something worse.

>In these crises, a great part not only of the existing products, but also of the previously created productive forces, are periodically destroyed. In these crises, there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier epochs, would have seemed an absurdity — the epidemic of over-production.
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 No.493121

>>492068
This is going to be a disaster, Singapore and Dubai are apparently going all in on AI as well


 No.492952[Reply]

The collapse of America is funny to see Bush was Trajan
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 No.492953

Why Trajan? Trump is obviously Commodus.
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 No.493119

>>492953
You have it right, Bush would be Trajan since both took their countries to their greatest extent. I think. Biden or Kennedy would be Aurelian


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 No.492990[Reply]

im someone whose been interested in secret societies and clandestine shit, but i was always surprised how there were so few left-wing ones, compared to the myriad of right wing secret societies, since the only one i could find anything about is the spanish anarchist secret org called "The Disinherited".

why does the left seemingly not utilize secret societies, or are most of the left secret socs just really good at staying secret?
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 No.493012

>>493004
>Anyway, it's really the state propaganda machine and crackdowns which make garnering sympathy difficult.
Yeah, and they have the upper hand by being out in the open. It's very difficult to counter this stuff from the underground.
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 No.493033

>>492990
I wish I knew how to join them
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 No.493060

>>493004
>revolutionaries have to operate underground unless they already have established military support
Isn't 99% of what an org should do, they can do above ground?
I don't see how you can do any sort of community work underground, like what the black panthers did with meals and healthcare.

Of course the panthers were met with force and assasinations - so it's either be safe but be underground or be out in the open and clash with the state. But directly resisting the state is going to come sooner or later, and what activities would you even do underground?
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 No.493061

>>493060
The Black Panthers kept their militant and political wings essentially separate.

Community programs and services obviously have to be above ground - I mean, you could do them underground, but that would obviously be a pain in the ass unless you were already in open hot war with the state. I guess when I said "revolutionaries," I primarily meant militants, which was admittedly a confusing way to phrase what I meant since a revolutionary party's political wing is still composed of revolutionaries.

Although, actually, I kind of think that any western revolutionary group maybe should work on an underground political wing. Organizing masses of people in a community simply to do ordinary mutual aid stuff without detection is an extremely good idea.
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 No.493073

>>492990
The Illuminati was so successful that it became a boogeyman even if it failed not long after its foundation.


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