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 No.474596[Reply]

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=dOwhImVwjlY

Klaus Schwab, some moderately influential figurehead of a rich-people club that calls it self "world economic forum" gave an interview where he attacks not only the right to privacy but the right to person-hood all-together.

He's attacked the privacy for thoughts. Brain-privacy is the basis for people to become individuals.

I think violations of brain privacy is a crime that is so heinous that it requires punishment by death penalty. The stakes are so high that this is a reasonable measure. Lets put it this way brain privacy is the reason why humans and most animals evolved the capacity for conscious experience and a sense of self, yes even insects with only a few 100k brain-cells probably have it in a very limited capacity. On the species level it's a evolutionary adaptation of dealing with the separation of thoughts residing in distinct brain boxes. If you remove this separation by making brains loose their opacity, people's brains will most likely become unconscious neural clusters. It will probably be accompanied by severe mental atrophy, because all the brain muscles that used to be exercised for conscious thought would wither away.

You wouldn't make this up for a fictional villain because it's too comically evil, and yet here we are.

I don't know. maybe privacy has to be defined as informational opacity of people and their personal lives. Given that the anti-privacy-crime-cartel knows no bounds and wants to do away with privacy for your skull. We have to conclude that privacy can have no exceptions and may never be violated for any reason.
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 No.474597

>Finally, a decent post here that's not from me. Keep it up anon

That shifting definition of 'transparency' from citizens knowing what the government is up to towards the government knowing everything about citizens personal lives and inner world is by far the greatest psyop of the 21sy century.
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 No.474775

>>474597
>That shifting definition of 'transparency' from citizens knowing what the government is up to towards the government knowing everything about citizens personal lives and inner world is by far the greatest psyop of the 21sy century.

Is this a language battle ?

Do we have to specify opaque citizens and transparent institution specifically ?
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 No.474823

>>474596
I watched the video and kind of don't get what he's saying
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 No.474940

When the ruling elite tell you for over a century that they plan to exterminate you and take everything over and over, in every propaganda outlet they own, and beat you until you accept it, you should take them at their word.

Schwab is just declaring victory. They won, so they will proceed. You will indeed own nothing, and you WILL be happy. There is no choice and there is no will. I have yet to see a convincing argument that this won't succeed, save one - that no one has any reason to go along with this. Yet, they are doing so, and have no concept that it could be anything different.

Krauts, my friends. Not even once.

Anyway, you never had a "right to privacy" or a right to believe your brain was made of sacred matter that must be protected. When you stripped away the soul or any idea, these are the consequences. Some of us tried to warn you. Even then, the question isn't about a right to privacy that never existed. It was about simple security, which was always understood to be the basis for any genuinely free society - not Kraut "freedom", but freedom in the sense we vaguely still held when I was growing up. No one is going to give you security out of gratitude. The only way this stopped would be to not allow such a concentration of technology to enter private hands. Once it starts, there is no going back. Ever.
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 No.474941

The best you could hope for is to reclaim some part of your brain and force a settlement where this overbearing managerial hell-state is subverted. Only way I could see that happening is to stop believing tech can be controlled, and to work through it. So, the biological transformation will be understood, and you would welcome contact with the brain - give up your private thoughts and secrets, or at least the sort of privacy we once accepted. You're going to have to accept that this is a slave society now, and make of that what you will.

Basically the only way this ends is mass refusal to ever comply with institutions ever again. Most of the slaves will die. There is no other way. That was always the plan for us. Now it's too late to stop it.

I plan to keep going for however long this lasts, since compliance is not an option for me. They don't want my compliance, or even to kill me. They enjoy seeing me suffer too much, and I'm too stubborn to off myself. I don't feel like giving them the satisfaction of finding my corpse, and I suspect the worst is already done. I don't know what new torture they could make. All they could do is make my life more deprived and empty and take away the few nice things I hold onto.


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 No.474732[Reply]

Russia is only winning cause stupid nazoid vatniks are cheating bastards!!

If those ruZZians played fair, Ukraine would have won by now.
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 No.474846

>>474832
I doubt any Russians post here, if you see Cyrillic letters it's probably somebody using a translation program.
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 No.474847

>>474822
>fascism
Ukraine might be going text-book fascism, open bourgeois dictatorship.
And they might be calling it a "Postponed democracy"

<Zelensky hints at postponing elections


>Ukraine will not hold any elections while martial law remains in force in the country, President Vladimir Zelensky said in an interview to the Washington Post published on Sunday. The country is scheduled to hold elections for parliament in October and for president early next year.


>However, no voting will take place while martial law is in place amid the ongoing hostilities with Russia, Zelensky told reporters, implying that the elections will not actually take place on time.


>“If we have martial law, we cannot have elections. The constitution prohibits any elections during martial law. If there is no martial law, then there will be [elections],” Zelensky stated.


https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/news/articles/1363077/zelensky-hints-at-postponing-elections

If you consider this in the context of them having already banned all 11 major opposition parties. It looks rather ominous.
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 No.474849

>>474822
>>474808
Reddit spacing. Reddit posts.
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 No.474850

>>474849
>Reddit spacing. Reddit posts.
Reddit spacing is when somebody leaves a space between the quote and their response because otherwise reddit would treat the whole paragraph as part of the quote.

Leaving spaces between your paragraphs to make your post more readable is called not being a retard.
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 No.474865

>>474847
> all 11 major opposition parties
More lies by someone who doesn't know anything about Ukraine. There's 349 parties in Ukraine, you fucking idiot. Furthermore no one was taken off his seat for membership in any of those parties. Literally just dissolution of an organized. You do not know anything about Ukraine.


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 No.474503[Reply]

<If you eat this shit, you are subhuman and shouldn't be able to vote.

Honestly, people who eat pic related can't even make a rational decision regarding their own health. Why should they be trusted to make decisions for all of society?

Inb4: limp wristed emotional argument
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 No.474794

>>474785
☑ insult the guy
☐ counter his arguments with reason

you ticked the wrong box
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 No.474813

>>474776
1) This is pol tier China bashing
>Lol look at those dumb chinks and their shoddy infastructure blah blah blah

2) it's thoroughly unmarxist in that it sees the world as a static things and not in a state of development and change, unable to pick up on the shifting winds on history

In all honesty though, I hope you're right. A world with China as the leading influence wouldn't be better than a world with the US as a leading influence
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 No.474827

>>474813
>being a delusional desperate Marxist

Another pathetic example of modern Communism.
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 No.474828

>>474783
That's literally what I said, if you would bother to read the thread I said "Even by his metrics" Meaning GDP which is not an accurate measure of economic stability; even by GDP the united states is trillions of dollars ahead of china.
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 No.474934

>>474827
Can you at least try reading the first 3 chapters of capital and then posting here? Please dude, it's embarrassing.


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 No.474710[Reply]

<Materialist explanation for libs both supporting censorship and constantly lying?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/real_clear_opinion_research/poll_is_censorship_a_partisan_issue_149790.html

>The concept of free speech dates to the 5th century B.C. in ancient Greece and was codified in America’s founding documents on Dec. 15, 1791, with the ratification of the Bill of Rights. The 45-word First Amendment prohibited Congress from “abridging freedom of speech, or of the press,” and has been long understood to include any branch of government….


>Some of what is dividing these differences is generational, as Millennials and Gen-Z have come of age in a digital age environment in which reasonable expectations of privacy seem a relic of the past. “Those under 30 are most open to censorship by the government,” Kimball noted, adding that 42% of this cohort deem it “more important” to them that the government protect national security than guard the right to free expression. Among those over 65 years old, the corresponding percentage was 26%.


>Also, a gender gap reveals itself, one that dovetails with the discrepancy in party registration between men and women — but which is more pronounced. Asked whether they support free speech even if it’s “deeply offensive,” 78% of men answered affirmatively, compared to 66% of women.


>But the most glaring gap is between conservatives and liberals, i.e., between Republicans and Democrats. On the issue of free expression, at least, Republicans are not the authoritarian party…


>•Republican voters (74%) and independents (61%) believe speech should be legal “under any circumstances, while Democrats are almost evenly divided. A bare majority of Democrats (53%) say speech should be legal under any circumstances, while 47% say it should be legal “only under certain circumstances.”

>•Nearly one-third of Democratic voters (34%) say Americans have “too much freedom.” This compared to 14.6% of Republicans. Republicans were most likely to say Americans have too little freedom (46%), while only 22% of Democrats fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.474730

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Malcolm knew all about it
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 No.474749

>>474721
Has this passed peer review and been published in the journal it was targeting yet? I really wish people would stop using pre-prints from rxiv as justification for important scientific developments, it's a very bad habit.
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 No.474760

<Materialist explanation for libs both supporting censorship and constantly lying?
>A bare majority of Democrats (53%) say speech should be legal under any circumstances, while 47% say it should be legal “only under certain circumstances.”
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 No.474761

>>474716
This reads like a right-wing fantasy of what conservatives are like. There's a weird optimism here about right-wingers which fails to grasp how full of shit most of them are. They aren't consistent - if anything, they pay lip-service to ideals like freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and then betray them even harder than the "left" libs. Propertarians are the only exception, way more right-wingers will say "how dare the government tell me how to raise my kids, run my business, how to practice my religion" and then turn right around and tell other people how to raise their kids, run their business, and practice their religion. The difference is that more centrist libs admit to doing this.
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 No.474767

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>>474710
>Some of what is dividing these differences is generational, as Millennials and Gen-Z have come of age in a digital age environment in which reasonable expectations of privacy seem a relic of the past. “Those under 30 are most open to censorship by the government,” Kimball noted, adding that 42% of this cohort deem it “more important” to them that the government protect national security than guard the right to free expression.

100% glowies trying to manufacture consent.

If you asked people: Should the government be able to trample you rights simply by evoking a concept like "national security" Virtually everybody would say "Fuck NO".

If you asked people would you rather live have free expression or would you like to live under a censorship regime. Virtually everybody chooses free expression over censorship

If you asked people about whether they want their lives to be opaque enough that they have privacy, or whether they want to be spied upon the entire time. Virtually anybody would choose privacy.

There is no consent for privacy violations and violations of free speech.


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 No.471994[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Maui fires raise questions over warnings, death toll hits 80

"MAALAEA, Hawaii, Aug 11 (Reuters) - The death toll from the Maui wildfires rose to 80 on Friday as search teams combed through the smoldering ruins of Lahaina, and Hawaiian officials sought to determine how the inferno spread so rapidly through the historic resort town with little warning.

The fires became the deadliest natural disaster in the state's history, surpassing that of a tsunami that killed 61 people on the Big Island of Hawaii in 1960, a year after Hawaii joined the United States.

Officials have warned that search teams with cadaver dogs could still find more dead from the fire that torched 1,000 buildings and left thousands homeless, likely requiring many years and billions of dollars to rebuild.

"Nobody has entered any of these structures that have burned down and that's where we unfortunately anticipate that the death toll will rise significantly," U.S. Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii told MSNBC.

In a late evening statement, Maui County said that the death toll had risen to 80.

The Lahaina fire that spread from the brush to town was still burning but 85% contained, the county said earlier. Two other wildfires on the island were 80% and 50% contained.

Three days after the disaster, it remained unclear whether some residents had received any warning before the fire engulfed their homes.
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 No.473983

>>473845
>It's just temporary, prole!
I mean you're not wrong, there's a risk that they end up stuck in the tempcontainers.

I wonder how one would organize something like this to remove the risk of people getting left behind.
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 No.473985

>>473983
>there's a risk that they end up stuck in the tempcontainers.
While that is true, the alternative is to provide these people nothing to appease schizos. Again, the gentrification of NO was a far more serious issue than fucking FEMA camps. It's a conversation designed to distract from the real issue, which is the transfer of wealth and property from the poor to the very rich.
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 No.474057

>>473985
>the alternative is to provide these people nothing to appease schizos
>THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, PROLES
>We built these concentration camps out of the kindness of our hearts!
>The displaced couldn't possibly be allowed to live in houses or apartments
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 No.474076

>>474057
Temporary housing isn't a concentration camp. Nobody is required to go there. Nice try, though, schizo.
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 No.474705

>>474076
it's a literal pogrom to herd people into shipping crates. kill yourself fed.


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 No.473268[Reply]

Haz Retardation Appreciation General
/HRAG/

Post your best highlights from the most insightful midwit in Amerikwa
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 No.474554

>>474551
Good point
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 No.474563

>>473268
Honestly you could spend all day picking him apart and criticizing him. But at the end of the day his class position is literally some kind of bourg (he has literally confirmed this and him having the carelessness to drop out of law school confirms this) and now his class position is that of a lumpen grifter. That’s all you need to know. He hasn’t tried removing himself from his class position by either Getting a job or touring the nation and deeply analyzing the classes and working conditions like Lenin did.
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 No.474564

>>474563
You uyghurs are beyond autistic. You can take one look at Haz and his social media and tell he's a retarded broken clock
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 No.474567

>>474564
Okay retard you didn’t even read my post
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 No.474568

Haz is trying to hard to be based which is the antithesis of based


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 No.459598[Reply]

After much discussion and being voted for by a democratic majority, in the matrix. the new leftychan constitution has come into effect, replacing the outdated pre-split document. This should hopefully provide more clarity over the general goal of leftychan, the rights of users, the powers and constraints of mods as well as the specifics of how our user democracy functions. Please feel free to ask any questions regarding the constitution in this thread or in the Matrix Congress room, which we encourage you all to join using the link above.
Additionally, another vote has passed to trial a self-improvement board on /777/ under the name of /chad/, which will be the roulette board for the next two months, replacing /roy/. Finally, for those not in the matrix chats, here is a recent votes and their outcomes:

10/21/22 - All mod account and janny accounts that have been inactive for 15 weeks or longer be deleted on the staff democratically decided upon. PASSED - 5 Yes - 0 Nay
10/15/22 - Make the maga communism thread cyclical in order to keep the board from getting shit up with tons of maga communism threads NOT PASS - 1 Yea, 4 Nay
10/11/22 - Tupamaro becomes an official jannoid PASS - 5 Yea, 1 Nay
10/11/22- /a/ will return to the board roster PASSED - 6 yeah 0 Nay
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 No.470110

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>>459739
>Yes, mods should decide which posts spread Nazism and fascism. If mods fuck up too much, you remove them. Don't make idiots mods (like ogre).
Gods, I just can't with you retards..

<here's my solution! do the EXACT same thing again and again and expect a different result! Problem is always with individuals, ie BAD jannies! Just have GOOD jannies! Easy!

fucking genius
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 No.470187

>>470110
Go back.
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 No.470729

>>470187
bro what if we just had good cops?
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 No.474512

>>459622
>no rules
>makes rules
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 No.477605

>>459622
>rules bad
>now here are my new list of rules
Never change individualist anarchists.


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 No.471806[Reply]

You heard me. The fuck was wrong with them? Those monuments are creepy as fuck. Children dancing around a crocodile? Really? It's like they were made for a disaster.
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 No.471838

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>>471808
Idolatry ist still kringke
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 No.474475

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unironically………………………………………………………………………………………….. … they didnt keep it real
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 No.474476

The Soviets made mostly awesome statues

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=_5X2BvMS4yQ
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 No.474478

>>471807
It came before bioshock so it's really the inspiration for it?
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 No.474511

>>471807
>Just look at this shit. This is straight out of Bioshock.
Reminded me of this video, lol


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 No.472596[Reply]

As some of you anons might be aware, Donald Trump has just been indicted a fourth time in a series of lawsuits designed to prevent him from running for office again. Trump is, of course, not being prosecuted over his many high crimes–the same high crimes that every other president has committed and gotten away with–instead, the lawsuits are only over completely frivolous shit, the illegality of which is dubious. The legal system is thus being used in ways it's never been used before to violate the unwritten rule that rulers are above the law and immune to legal retribution. The are historic parallels for this.

We saw what happened in Rome when this began to occur. The Roman legal system was used in unprecedented ways in Tiberius Gracchus's struggle against the Roman oligarchy for populist land reforms, the legal system used to undermine the powers of elected officials, both Gracchus himself and his opponents. This eventually culminated in the Senate-organized murder of Gracchus. What ensued after was a spiral of escalations where politicians became emboldened to use increasingly violent methods to go after their rivals, until finally the legal system was ignored entirely and culminated in a hundred years of civil wars and hundreds of years of despotic dictatorships.

My question is this: what should the left be doing when a crisis of faith in the current state's legal system seems to be approaching?
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 No.474488

>>474485
Not as fucking garbage as this fag.
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 No.474496

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>>474488
Remember these are the people calling you a soyboy and saying poljak looks nothing like themselves
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 No.474498

>>474496
And that has what to do with this thread?
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 No.474499

>>474488
>Omg, this guy's fashion is a statement against my fashion
Dork
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 No.476930

>>473299
>they
>the common prole
>Trump
>Tate
>Elon
>I guess booj in-fighting is a good thing for the proles
>maybe their divisions can be taken advantage of, but I don't know where to start really
Keep doing good work, agent!


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 No.465728[Reply]

So the entire UFO happening was the US military spending big bux to shoot down hobby-balloons.
I feel bad for the people who have that hobby, they probably thought that balloons were so harmless that nobody would ever bother to disturb their happy fun time.

Why did this thing turn into such a big deal ?
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 No.468100

>>465728

When America's "right" is in power it's all "we are the strongest, haha, look at our might."
When America's "left" is in power it's all "well, we can't let the "right" call us weak, better be exactly as retarded and let them get whatever they want and blame the voters"
It's very disconcerting, or it ought to be!
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 No.468101

>>466869

Idk… I mean all this shit has had computers in it forever. The US seems to want every piece of its own tech to have a double-purpose for surveillance, it's probably something which could be done. It's dumb, but… the whole thing is fucking dumb. The US is paranoid, but also kinda should be… but the American public should be more paranoid about the American state itself.
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 No.468111

>>468101
If the US wants to have surveillance for those cranes, can't they just stick their own surveillance equipment on those cranes ?

>The US is paranoid, but also kinda should be…

In that case I don't get it. From a technical point of view the most secure crane, is the one that uses technical minimalism. If you only implement the technology needed to operate the crane, the attack surface for subverting it's function is the smallest. If you add more features like surveillance, that massively increases the attack surface.

As far as container security goes, i would try to figure out ways to scan their contents for malicious stuff. The scan method has to be fast and economical, so x-ray-ing a bazillion containers is out. However you can scan for particulate emissions to find hazardous materials like toxic chemicals or explosives. You only need an air-pump and a molecular-particle detector to extract a container-gas-sample, which only adds a few seconds to container processing because it only requires sticking in a small suction-tube in one of the many container-drain-holes. That method is neigh impossible to beat because it will detect particles even through many layers of plastic wrap. Inherent Molecular vibration means all containers leak a little. A few molecules will always manage to wiggle through the walls of any container, and even low cost mol-dedectors are ridiculously sensitive.

>the American public should be more paranoid about the American state itself.

Even if you trust your own government, you have to be aware that all technical backdoors are very promiscuous.
In a potential cyber-war between the US and China, the Chinese will have access to all those backdoors as well. Backdoors have become near-infinite-value targets, and any rational actor with the means to pay the price for getting in, will do so. This isn't just my opinion, this is what most technical security researches think.
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 No.468183

Apparently the Chinese refused to set up a meeting to talk about the balloon with US delegates.

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=6OhL4AawYvk&t=4120

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 No.474474

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=zgWv3kXUn10

So the US government has now confirmed that the Chinese spy weather balloon was indeed blown off course by accident/weather, and the pentagons examinations of the balloon wreckage concludes that it did not activate its sensors while being over US territory.


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