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fixed the got meme that's making the rounds


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can someone male a left wing version of this meme


I'm not a Holodomor=intentional genocide type, but a 3% mortality rate in gulags is 10x current US prison rate, so i wouldn't call it "roughly equal".


It's already leftwing


>muh white grievance

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Do you support the taliban? From reading comments here I've seen some support for them but idk if it's people trolling or /Pol/yps

What are your thoughts?

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They killed Naji so they can rot in hell for all I care


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>daily fail


I do not support the Taliban because they are not governing based upon scientific principles. A proper socialist government must always defer to scientific truths and the people governed should eagerly adhere to those laws. I see neither such reality in Afghanistan under the Taliban rule.


I don't really agree with this because there are important concepts to humans such as freedom that can't really be measured by any scientific theory. Of course we should always relegate and listen to the sciences to guide us as people as this is a tried and true tested methodology, but,some things are not so simple and this is why the open forum exists.


>Do you support the taliban?
The US funded and armed the Taliban in the 80s to overthrow the Government the Soviets put into place in Afghanistan. You have to ask the American rulers why they thought getting the Taliban into power was better. Maybe the Soviets would have been able to set up a modern and secular governance in Afghanistan. With enough industrial development, that may have worked, i guess we'll never find out.

The US occupation didn't try to do enough industrial development, for it to have a chance at modernizing and secularizing afghan society, they went a more colonial rout of using bribes to set up vassals and comprador aristocrats. And that wasn't going to work in the modern age. It was always going to end up like it did. Afghanistan was producing 80% of the worlds opium, right before the US invasion opium production dropped to almost nothing because the Taliban banned drugs. After the US invasion opium production got restored. One wonders if that had something to do with it.

>I don't really agree with this because there are important concepts to humans such as freedom that can't really be measured by any scientific theory.
Why not ?
I doubt that people will really agree on a definition for freedom, but it doesn't mean you can't have a scientific understanding about how societies struggle to define concepts. The capitalists define freedom as what ever lets them steal surplus from the workers. You can imagine why the workers would feel more free when they can keep more of the surplus they produce. This is not the only dimension how societies struggle about freedom, but it's an example of how a scientific approach would work. Another example would be how currently the ruling class is trying to control the narrative, they are trying to re-define freedom of speech as a narrow range of discourse they find acceptable. And obviously most other people object to having their expression dampened, by such machinations.

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>Marine Le Pen open to appointing leftists if she wins French presidency

<“I could very well have people, for example, from the Chevènement left, in other words a sovereigntist left, a left which supports re-industrialisation, the defence of our great industries,” she told RTL radio.

<“There are lots of people on the left who are attached to French secularism — which fits well, it’s a fundamental issue for me — who are attached to education and are very opposed to the way in which Emmanuel Macron is planning to destroy schooling,” Le Pen said.
<“There are lots of people attached to the civil service, when Emmanuel Macron is in the process of sinking the state,” she added. “Those people could equally be part of my government.”

So it increasingly appears that the upcoming french election will embody the "neoliberalism vs everyone else" attitude that is growing in liberal democracies across the world.
Macron, the firmly centrist neoliberal candidate, is all but guaranteed a place in the second round; but who his rival will be has been uncertain throughout the past few months. Zemmour, Le Pen, Melenchon, all oppose Macron's laissez faire, europhile, small-government views for their own reasons and have all seen surges in the polls. And crucially their voters disapprove of Macron's ideas too, meaning that whoever does take on Macron in the second round will need to appeal to both the far-right and ideologically socialist sections of the electorate to be in with a chance of winning.

As Marxists, we should be hoping that this situation forces socialists like Melenchon to address the concerns of the large right-wing voting working class, who have been disillusioned from the left because of issues such as immigration, liberal idpol, the EU and sovereignty. Hopefully getting the European left back on track and focusing on what really matters after an extended period of decline and decadence. However, this is almost certainly wishful thinking. The most likely scenario is that we end up with a Macron v Le Pen second round.

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No to Macron and Le Pen! For an active boycott of the 2022 French elections!
>The PES proposes to workers and youth not to vote in the elections and to advocate a conscious political rejection of the poisoned choice between Macron and Le Pen.

Very informative analysis of French politics and class struggle!

In reading this article, French elections gave me a flashback to US electoral farce. The dual between Macron and Le Pen reminded of Trump versus Hilary Clinton. Mélenchon plays the role of Bernie Sanders. It is more or less the identical scenario with different actors resulting in the same outcome: the French working class interests sacrificed.

Macron, a former banker, and Marie Le Pen are establishment candidates and both serve the French ruling class. Macron is nicknamed 'Le Petit Napoleon', the diminutive Napoleon, as he rules with an iron fist. Marie LePen is a fascist. Like Trump, she appeals to anti-immigrants and anti-Muslims.bigots. Neither candidate represents the working class.

Melenchon is the French version of the American Bernie Sanders. He also asked his supporters to switch their votes to Hilary Clinton, the anti-Russian warmonger, after he was conspired against by the Democratic party. Many of his followers refused to endorse her.

Macro has had a tumultuous experience as president of France. He angered Algeria, a former colony, by criticizing its government resulting in Algeria closing its airspace to French airplanes. He was also outplayed in Mali by Putin, ending with the French exiting Mali. Then Macron was humiliated by the submarine deal where France lost a 10 Billions contract to USUKAUS plot against France. To make matters worse, he was slapped by a French citizen during a campaign.

French politics mirrors that of the US in so many ways. Le Pen is not anti-Russian so was Trump. Macron pursued almost the same policies Hilary would have enacted had she been elected, She was a staunch opponent of Putin. There are differences between France and US politics of course.
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Thank you WSWSanon


Le Pen seems like someone amerimutts would call a commie because of her economic positions. Her any day over Macron definetly.


I mean yes, but also, I wont invest a lot of energy arguing about the minute differences of two liberal political candidates.


By god, La Pucelle please win.

Please win.

Sauve la France!


DOOMERS BTFO! Climate Change has been averted
Expect mass suicides by the /r/collapse crowd


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It hasn't been averted, Not even close. Millions and millions of people ar estill going to be effected by this in the coming 60 years, but, signs are good and we are managing to, hopefully, avoid the worst of it. Make no mistake though people on the coast are still fucked beyond belief.


Nice. At least the air will be more fresh and breathable and cities will go more green so I can toke cannabis and enjoy nature as my cope for being a lifelong perma-virgin


Did you even read >>455102
That's hardly the case.


No mention of the ecological collapse that is certain to happen. Their agumet relies on some deus-ex "improved technology" and saying it's certain that everyone will switch to electric or renewable and that will stop climate change. It's not guaranteed that every country will do this, and It will take decades for the switch to electric/renewable and that's if nothing bad happens in these countries which is not guaranteed. Africa is projected to have the largest population increase of the continents, these hundreds of millions of people are not going to be driving electric.

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Pic related is how tankies use the same logic as European colonizers.
I believe that soviet occupation of eastern Europe is exactly the same as European colonialism of places like Africa and India. This is because countries like Estonia and Lithuania are quite distinct from Russia. Even western and central Ukraine has a healthy reason to stand aside from Soviet or Russian claims.
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>If I call it liberation then it is.
USSR was using the Warsaw Pact as client states. They got some benefits from it but they mostly paid fealty to Stalinland. Which is why almost all the Soviet satellites faired better after it collapsed than the USSR did, save Cuba and NK which were practically graphed to onto the USSR.


>All of the republics of the USSR saw significant economic development and increases in quality of life.
Except it would have been pretty hard to make economy and quality of life worse after two consecutive world wars. The real metric should be how slowly did economy rise in soviet countries compared to capitalist ones? The answer is, they are still trying to catch up 30 years later…

>The comparison is nonsensical for that reason.

The comparison was one of mentality: European imperialists argue that their colonies were better off by being conquered; Tankies argue that Soviet states were better off by being conquered. You didn't address that at all. Just saying "we are the good guys therefor it's different" is an admission of defeat.

>The Bolsheviks took these territories with the intention of building socialism in these lands.

But if socialism is so great all you need to do is build up your own country and everyone else will follow voluntarily


Most soviet states did a lot worse after the USSR dissolved. Why do you make shit up ?


No one said improving you liberal faggot. Conditions did improve but freeing people from the tyranny of fucking capital is freedom you retard. Stop defending the us


Can you not read, I said they did better than Russia itself after the break up.

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Why do they always start revolutions in industrially backwards shitholes?

Haven't they read Marx?
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Earth really is a backward shithole. Why can't it be a nicer place like the Solar system. Everybody knows the Universe of Time and Space is the forward looking part of the frame of reference.

Nationalism deludes you. Embrace the world in total and refuse the framing error fallacy.


He's not wrong.


He's not wrong.


>Framing error fallacy

The what?


Research the conditions in which a revolution can happen. If the majority is eating bread and has a job they are not going to pick up arms.

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Let's talk about Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory and his gang.

I mean, Stepan Bandera, OUN-UPA [Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and Ukrainian Insurgent Army] and their relevance in today's Ukraine and its politics.


The Greyzone does excellent reporting on this. There is a Nazi occupied government in Ukraine.


I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong, but, greystone isn't the most objective outlet, lol.


Why do you say this?


Because they have a pretty clear bias imo.

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What's going on with south korea? The opposition candidate is said to have won off an anti-sjw platform

>He is seen in ROK as an Masculinist & Anti-Feminist, being framed as the "Candidate of Incels", promising to “Abolish the Gender Equality Ministry”, something that could be compared to Trump’s “Build the Wall”, of the Moon's Liberal Government that promoted Radical-Feminist ideologies into 🇰🇷 ROK society

>Yoon blames the later point, the spread of Feminism in South Korean society, for the Low birthrates in ROK, which angered (a lot) the so-called "K-Pop" fans in South Korea
>Yoon has a kind of Laissez-faire Economic policy, which attracted the support from ROK Libertarians
>Yoon, despite having participated in the Gwangju Uprising, expressed favorable views on the Government of the "Far-Right" Military Strongman, General Chun Doo-hwan that ruled ROK from 1980 to 1988 via a military coup
> He is overtly Anti-China, to such extent South Korean liberals call him an "Extreme anti-chinese Racist" & "Xenophobic"
>Yoon has a Belligerent Policy towards DPRK (North Korea), more than any Candidate than the ROK Military Juntas of Cold War
>Yoon is in Explicitly in favor of deploying Tactical Nuclear Weapons in South Korea/ROK to counter the Nuclear weapons of DPRK (North Korea)
>He vowed to get as much as possible THAAD systems from US to counter the "DPRK Threat", something that many South Korean liberals see as "dangerous to the policy of unification of Korea"
>Unlike the South Korean Liberals, Yoon and his faction have a Pro-Japanase stance and shares Japan views on 🇰🇵 DPRK and 🇨🇳 China


time for re-unification


Okay I hope Lee Jay wins


Being anti-sjw only matters if you are also a communist. Otherwise you are just a reactionary dipshit who, also, is into idpol but doesn't realize it cause he's a smooth brain.


Men are tried of feminism. Feminism is literally "The Protocol of Zion" but with Jews replaced with penis havers. Strap yourself in because this is the century of the beta uprising.



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to signal your support for world peace and the soviet union, please post your favorite ukrainian and laugh at the genetic mumbo jumbo that gave us NOTHING in 100+ years
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There is no difference between Russians and Ukrainians other than their language, and even the languages are so similar the relation between the two people obvious.


People on the east half of Ukraine are basically considered Russians from what I understand.


One of the most. Resisting nazi vandalism for 8 years and then purging them all while wrecking NATO. I say based.


Yes, but my point is the division between eastern Slavs is borderline fake.


Says who?


the guy in cockshotts new video mentions a post or paper he wrote detailing this plan he has for a parallel socialist society. Anyone been able to find it?

He makes some interesting suggestions with keeping labor inside the community and not paying taxes. Could go far even within an american audience.


What's his name? Search searx.


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This is interesting but it is a bit sparse in the details, for example the tit for tat commune defense needs flashing out. The unmodified tit for tat strategy has a weakness, every tit for tat interaction requires a certain amount of resources and human time, and if two agents that judge each others actions as uncooperative follow that strategy they will both get into a retaliation chain where the one with the most resources wins. In the early stages communes are likely to be in a situation of having limited resources and can't use that strategy.

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