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 No.464061[Reply]

New Global Economic Update dropped, sempai discusses the economics of the Ukraine proxy war this time.

EVERYBODY GET IN HERE
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 No.464069

>>464068
The level of technology and the level of the development of the means of production outgrows mere competitive and private enterprises and must by managed on either the conglomerate or state - without necessarily and emancipation of the working class.

People here are wrong in thinking neo-liberalism is the dominant trend. Rather, a sort of emergence of the power of a technocratic supra state is the dominant modern emergent feature.
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 No.464070

>>464069
That would imply that nationalist capitalism isn't on the menu then. Neoliberal capitalism is the emergence of a technocratic supra state, how can it coexist in a world where states attempt to wrest national control back over their capitalist classes?
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 No.464091

>>464070
Another case of zoomers using words without understanding their meanings
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 No.464102

>>464068
That countries are showing signs of shifting allegiances to the national bourgeoisie is part of an emerging political strategy in response to multipolarisation. For example, it won't be possible for the United States to both outsource the vast majority of production to China while also fighting them in a war.
Thankfully, as of right now the militaries of the United States and every other great power are pathetic. But it's likely this trend will change. We're already seeing renewed naval and nuclear arms races.
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 No.464106

>>464068
No, he's not. Althuserians are never right about anything. Porky is eating Porky, which is exactly what Marx said would happen.

 No.464047[Reply]

Mr. Castro, how come you are boarding a Soviet airplane?
>Simply bekoss sovietic are our friends. And hear, you tok away our plants. Hear united states you the authority rob our plants. And the sovietic plan our the plan. That is…
Mr. Castro, are you saying that the American people are not your friends?
>The American people I think is good people. Yes. They are they have not a charge with the guilty of all the lies of publiçity uuuhm… hell to them.
Mr. Castro, can I ask if…
>The people of United State is good people!
Yes, thanks for clarifying, Mr. Castro.
>Havula people is wonderful people.
How do you like the…
>United state people is very good people.
How do you like the American press?
>WAT
How do you like the American press?
>Ha ha ha. You will report it. Are wonderful. You're the writers. Are wonderful. But you are not the owners. Any newspaper belongs to the monopoly here.
[Sweating hands cut the film here.]
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 No.464048

Absolute legends
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 No.464049

Why is this translated so horribly? Spanish is not a very complicated language.
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 No.464050

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>>464049
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 No.464051

>>464050
Is the point to be incomprehensible?

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 No.463890[Reply]

>even though Musk has lost more money than any human in history, he won't be going hungry any time soon – he’s still the world’s second-richest person
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 No.464027

>>464022
As it turns out, banging an entrepreneur is a pretty smart financial descision.
Didn't finish reading this because it seemed pointless. The woman seems to have the presence of mind to not complain about the situation.
Makes Elon sound even more based - a man who simply assumes he'll get what he wants, and then who gets it. Not like faggy leftist effeminate men who make sarcastic quips to cope over their perpetual poverty and lack.
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 No.464028

>>464026
Poast gfs weight and bodycount
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 No.464029

>>464028
>U MUST HAVE A GF AT ALL TIMES, OTHERWISE YOU ARE A CUCK SOY
>U MUST BE OVERWEIGHT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT YOU POSTED
>MUH BODYCOUNT
…

Mr. Right Winger, I'm a non-virgin European individual who also happens to be a Marxist, whose longest romantic relationship went on for 6 years, have a """sex-count""" of above 30+ partners, non-fat, and so on.

I'm just again trying to point out as with >>464026 previously, that your set of premises speak more about your own insecurities (chinlet.jpeg) than of your random opponents online.

Get a life, will you?

Stop licking the boots of individuals of the American bourgeoisie, will you?

cheers, fgt
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 No.464031

>>464029
How's the rapefugees crisis treating you?
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 No.464046

>>464031
Despite being only 13 percent of anons, /pol/acks make up 52% of shitposts.

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 No.463290[Reply]

you've lost your "leftypedia" wiki domain twice in 2 years without any good excuses. Literally just put it on a cheap VPS and pay off a few years of the domain
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 No.463822

>>463821
Recognizing propaganda is a useful skill every leftist should practice. I already said I don't want an echo chamber.
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 No.463824

>>463822
When there is no clear distinction, recognizing propaganda is not a skill. It's just a premonition.
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 No.463975

>>463290
Leftists are typically incompetent losers who somehow, despite all evidence to the contrary, believe they're hyper intellectual savants.
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 No.463976

>>463529
Nighas here are allergic to success

Being 'leftist' is a faggy in-group orientation and has nothing to do with effecting change or building a movement for such.
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 No.463983

>>463290
So do it? Whats the problem?

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 No.463418[Reply]

>mass genocide taking place by insane serbians
>Multiple attempts at peace from NATO
>only around 1000 civilians died
>stopped a fucking literally genocide

Why was the bombing of Yugoslavia necessary?
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 No.463832

>>463830
>https://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/depleted-uranium/en/l-2/5.htm#0
>opinions
So not actual research, then. Let's read it.
>Outside the laboratory, there is evidence on health effects of lower DU exposures from medical monitoring of Gulf War veterans. Some have embedded DU shrapnel, and have much higher concentrations of uranium in their blood than civilians or soldiers without direct exposure to DU. So far, no serious health effects have been observed after 16 years monitoring.
And the other mention of adverse effects is just eating the stuff. I'm sure you'd have higher lead content in your blood if you had shrapnel in you from a conventional round.
https://deq.utah.gov/waste-management-and-radiation-control/depleted-uranium-energysolutions
>Uranium decays very slowly, with a half-life in the range of millions of years. The decay products of uranium become more radioactive over time due to ingrowth.
>millions of years
Yes, I know. We all know that. You aren't going to live for millions of years, and this is talking about industrial levels of waste DU.
https://www.nrc.gov/waste/llw-disposal/llw-pa/uw-streams/bg-info-du.html
> Additionally, the nature of the radiological hazards associated with DU presents challenges to the estimation of long-term effects from its disposal – namely that its radiological hazard gradually increases due to the ingrowth of decay products, eventually peaking after 1 million years, rather than decreasing significantly over a few hundred years like that of typical LLW.
>1 million years
Yes, we get it. The US government is worried about industrial levels of waste over the long term. Nobody is worried about DU used in munitions.
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 No.463833

>>463828
>That the only way to get it into you is by eating it. You probably heard that shit from an officer and have just been parroting it ever since.
Your own sources say that. You can breathe it if you work in a mine. You're not going to get enough exposure from munitions. And for the record, I'm not in the military, nor have I ever been in.
>Scroll up.
None of your sources said that. You're just lying.
> In fact, why don't you provide a link to one of these studies that you say exists. The VA says that it is dangerous, and they are shelling out money to treat people who were exposed to it. Now, tell me why they are wrong.
The VA is not a scientific body and is an organization that routinely pays out money because of ED and other shit that is not service-related.
>Or you could get it into you in all of the ways that the VA describes.
Yes, by directly having shrapnel inside you. In what way is this more toxic than lead?
>You seem to think that after the round goes through an armor plate that it stays one solid, unsheared chunk. Is that right?
It stays mostly solid. The destructive effects come from heat and other molten metal that is part of the vehicle. DU does break up, but it isn't going to turn into particulate like conventional rounds.
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 No.463837

>>463832
>And the other mention of adverse effects is just eating the stuff.
And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin. Say it with me, "And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin." All of the sources we have looked at have talked about those methods of having uranium introduced into your blood stream.
>this is talking about industrial levels of waste DU
It is talking about how it is not as safe as they had initially thought to store depleted uranium near the surface. How much is "industrial levels?" How much depleted uranium gets produced by power plants in comparison to how much the military rains on a battlefield?
>The US government is worried about industrial levels of waste over the long term. Nobody is worried about DU used in munitions.
Again, in terms of volume what is the difference?
>So Serbian faggots can stop bitching about getting bombed with DU to stop their genocide.
Yeah, they probably did try to cook the study honestly. I remember that investigation.
>And for the record, I'm not in the military, nor have I ever been in.
Really? You talk like a marine, and, no, that is not a compliment. I suppose that would explain why you haven't developed a healthy distrust of anything that the DoD calls "safe." It would also explain why you think that the VA just hands out money without having its arm twisted first.
>You're just lying.
Every last one of them is saying that depleted uranium is more dangerous in theory but that they have not seen it in effect yet in affected soldiers.
>Yes, by directly having shrapnel inside you.
Whaaaat? I thought that you could only eat it.
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 No.463843

>>463837
>And breathing it. And getting particles imbedded in your skin. Say it with me, "And breathing it.
Munitions do not create enough particulate for this to be an issue.
>And getting particles imbedded in your skin." All of the sources we have looked at have talked about those methods of having uranium introduced into your blood stream.
So either you work in a Uranium mine or you got hit with DU munitions. I fail to see how this means the US shouldn't use DU munitions or how it was wrong to use them on the former Yugoslavia.
>It is talking about how it is not as safe as they had initially thought to store depleted uranium near the surface.
Yes, over millions of years at industrial levels of waste.
>How much is "industrial levels?" How much depleted uranium gets produced by power plants in comparison to how much the military rains on a battlefield?
From a quick research, the US generates about 2000 metric tons of waste per year. That is what is being stored. The US dropped a total of 15 tons of DU munitions over the whole area. Of course that is offset by the fact that tonnage includes casings and explosives inside the bombs, so it's considerably less.
>Again, in terms of volume what is the difference?
It's a gigantic difference. And no studies have shown links between use of DU in the battlefield and long term effects for populations in those areas related to DU use.
>Yeah, they probably did try to cook the study honestly. I remember that investigation.
Oh, so now any study that doesn't agree with your histeria is cooked?
>Really? You talk like a marine, and, no, that is not a compliment. I suppose that would explain why you haven't developed a healthy distrust of anything that the DoD calls "safe."
I didn't get my facts from the DoD, so you can stop bitching about them now.
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 No.463848

>>463787
>westoid thinks that it's actually Eastern Europe that is fascist
many such cases

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 No.459920[Reply]

If a dictatorship of the proletariat ever emerges in the anglosphere, it might not be portrayed as a far-left phenomenon. To the contrary, its likely be perceived as the seizure of power by white cis male supremacists. Of course this will happen not because its the truth, but because such is simply how one interprets the world under the influence of the ruling ideology.
>Democrat ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…they must be contained
>Republican ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…which is BASED and REDPILLED
Indeed, it might even be possible that the far-right ends up supporting an anglosphere DotP based on this illusion. Of course we should reject any notion of a red-brown alliance, but the accusation may be hurled at us regardless.
The working class ought to have nothing to fear due to this, as we know that the vast majority of proles of all races reject identity politics. But we also know that every working class movement has involved a petty-bourgeois intelligentsia. These intellectuals are vulnerable to such ideological trickery, and it might be the case that many self-identifying socialists, communists and anarchists - from moderate social democrats to the most hardline Marxist-Leninists - will immediately reject an anglosphere DotP. We must therefore be critical of our own camp just as much as we are of the bourgeois ideologues.
However, the most important point is for those who take these warnings seriously. The worst decision one can make is, through being overly critical of the ruling ideology, to then misperceive any movement decried as "white cis male supremacist" or whatever to be a working-class movement. This is unironically how some socialists might foolishly end up supporting neo-Nazis. We must not fall into the trap of outright rejecting anything we perceive as bourgeois or passively accepting anything that is "anti-capitalist", "anti-elitist", "anti-establishment" and so on.
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 No.463512

>>460125
It is extremely embarrassing that so many self-described Marxists are clueless about how the capitalist state functions. I blame Marx's lazy ass for this.
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 No.463515

>>463512
Thanks for volunteering yourself as an example.
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 No.463548

>>463515
cope
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 No.463556

>>463548
Yes, I will cope with you having no idea what you are talking about.
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 No.463564

>>463556
seethe

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 No.462900[Reply]

European countries attacked by the Soviet Union. This is why NATO is expanding tsnkies. You think your former wards forgot?
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 No.462903

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I don't really see how you could call yourself a socialist and support the expansion of NATO. Regardless of what you think of the Soviet Union.
Also, the history of these conflicts should be judged individually on their own merit to come to a clear conclusion not all lumped together to support your propaganda.
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 No.462951

Bump
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 No.462956

>>462900
Looks like a skill issue to me.
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 No.463384

>>462900
>The imperialists and domestic reactionaries will certainly not take their defeat lying down and they will struggle to the last ditch. After there is peace and order throughout the country, they will still engage in sabotage and create disturbances in various ways and will try every day and every minute to stage a comeback. This is inevitable and beyond all doubt, and under no circumstances must we relax our vigilance.
Now, can you explain how this quote is wrong, OP? Because if you agree with it, then these are the times where the US and its imperialist forces tried to infiltrate and destabilize the Soviet Union and its allies, right?
On a similar note, what do you think of what happened in Tiananmen square?
>Donations to the Pro-Democracy Movement came from several sources: Peking University was the first to start fund raising, students collected money on the streets. Other donors included the private sector, trade unions and overseas Chinese, particularly in Hong Kong.
>On May 27 supporters in Hong Kong staged an all day concert featuring Hong Kong singers, actors and actresses that raised around thirteen million HK Yuan.
>In Hong Kong, then still a British territory, support for the movement was massive, with thousands of citizens rallying to support the pro-democracy protests.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_student_organizations_during_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
Do you think China attacked England!? How bold of them, isn't it?

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 No.463168[Reply]

Why are white people so embarrassingly dopey and low t?

Pic is only marginally related, but is illustrative of the way in which whites look like literal clowns/mental invalids (rest in piss, fag). Where does the meme about white people being heartless Aryan conquerors come from? If anything, whites are a race of overweight fags and cucks with nasally voices and effeminate mannerisms. Seriously, was every other race just that weak 300 years ago, or did white degenerate into their present condition?
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 No.463258

>>463168
show me a late capitalist nation that isn't a bunch of effeminates?

whites have only had the upper hand due to technology rather than a person's 'warrior spirit' whatever than means. Other civilizations were more advanced at certain points and others also developed feudalism but they would remain trapped within superstition, the philosophical tradition bequeathed by the greeks would provide the ideological justification for the development of capitalism which wouldn't be possible without the precedent of rationalism. Base determines superstructure in the final analysis but only if it has an ideology it can latch onto. So whites have always been faggot navel gazers, not because they're inherently so but that was their fate given to them by history, random or not.
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 No.463259

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>>463258
>capitalism was impossible without the right ideology
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 No.463263

>>463259
I think an analogy of saying that our amount of vocabulary limits our range of speech but the organ itself sets a hard limit is apt. Superstition would pre-exist in primitive communism which is essentially thought-systems that would later provide a metaphysic of class society that would be gradually refined. For example enlightenment rationalism would first be conceived formally then be brought about through the bourgeois revolutions materially throughout europe since any religious doctrine would put constraints upon it, likewise socialism would be conceived and then be currently underway. But this isn't utopianism since it's not by ahistorical mutual agreement of ideas through good will but by what is possible to actualise within any given material condition.
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 No.463318

>>463168
I hope more follow
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 No.463353

>>463176
You're putting the cart before the horse. The people in the west are all mentally ill and obese because of deteriorating conditions. We lead increasingly sedentary lives, are sold garbage foods, and are almost entirely atomized. It's not like everyone just got fat and depressed overnight, this is the reality of living under neoliberalism.

 No.463244[Reply]

Post everything related to the ongoing collapse. Also, if you have predictions about how long the Empire will survive, feel free to tell us about it.
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 No.463321

>>463320
>And they also said that about making advances in Kherson and Kharkiv. Look how that turned out.
No, I'm afraid the commander of the Ukrainian military did not say that. You delusional moron.
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 No.463327

>>463321
Yes, dipshit. He also said that about the previous offensives. He said they did not have the ability to carry out large counteroffensives without hundreds of tanks. You haven't been paying attention.
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 No.463329

>>463327
Present a source. Here's the source for
Zaluzhny's recent statements:
https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript
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 No.463330

>>463329
I know about his recent statement.
This article is authored by Zaluzhny and Zabrodskyi.
>Preparation of an offensive campaign demands that Ukraine sets up one or more operational (operational-strategic) groupings of forces consisting of 10 to 20 combined arms brigades, depending on the intent and ambitions of the Ukrainian Command. In the current situation, the above could be done exclusively by replacing the main types of armament available to the already existing brigades with modern ones, provided by Ukraine's partners. Separately, a need should be highlighted to obtain more missiles and ammunition, artillery systems, missile launchers, EW assets, etc. All of this will require consolidated efforts of all partner countries, while taking up a significant amount of time and financial resources.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3566404-prospects-for-running-a-military-campaign-in-2023-ukraines-perspective.html
This article was written in September, before the Kherson retreat. The man has always said he needs more and that it will be critical to end this war with Ukrainian territory remaining part of Ukraine. You're stupid and don't pay attention because you only read Russian blogs and propaganda sources and think this is some kind of gotcha or admission of loss. Nobody ever said fighting Russia would be easy for the poorest nation in Europe, yet here we are, almost a year into this so-called "special military operation," with no end in sight and vatniks coping a few words said as if that changes the situation on the ground. Here's a hint, dipshit: Russia is going to lose this war and lose badly. This is why Putin is now screeching about how he just wants to negotiate, not realizing that the only negotiations the Ukrainians want to see is how much reparations Russia is going to have to pay and who will be tried at the Hague.
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 No.463331

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>>463330
>Russia is going to lose this war and lose badly.

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 No.463222[Reply]

LlI live here and we just had days with -12°F (-24°C) and Wind Chills as low as -40°F (-40°C) or lower. Shitty outdated fossil fuel infrastructure failure and now they asking the largest population of the state on the Christmas Weekend to lower temperatures after doing hikes on energy bills. It's a fucking mess. Feel free to ask me anything.

Read below. I'll answer questions because I am now living through a potential natural gas outage event in the US.

https://www.wisn.com/article/wisonsin-gas-supply-affected-damaged-pipeline-we-energies/42331657

We Energies asks customers to lower thermostats to 60°F.

<Company officials blamed the unprecedented request on an equipment failure at one of its suppliers out of state.

<MILWAUKEE —
>In an unprecedented move late Friday, We Energies asked customers to reduce natural gas use by lowering thermostats to 60-62 degrees.

>"This request comes after one of the interstate pipeline suppliers who provides natural gas to We Energies experienced a significant equipment failure — reducing the amount of fuel they normally send by 30%," a statement posted to the company's website and social media accounts said.

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 No.463225

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People on Twitter were calling out WE Energies for trying to save money by forcing people to lower their energy usage instead of actually providing other means of providing the necessary energy usage needed for our current Winter Storm and getting through the holidays.

It's nice to see people calling out corporations on their bullshit.

It's why we got this update.

From WE Energies twitter:

>Thanks to the efforts we took and our customers’ response to our broad public appeal to turn down their thermostats, the system has stabilized. However, we are still asking customers to keep their thermostats lowered overnight. We will provide an update Saturday morning.

>We made this unprecedented request after one of the interstate pipeline suppliers who provides natural gas to We Energies experienced a significant equipment failure — reducing the amount of fuel they normally send by 30%.

>The impacted pipeline is one of multiple sources we use to receive natural gas. On a typical day, an issue like this would not require customers to reduce their usage.

>However, with extreme cold setting in over much of the United States, we are unable to receive additional natural gas from other pipeline suppliers.
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 No.463233

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>LlI live here and we just had days with -12°F (-24°C) and Wind Chills as low as -40°F (-40°C) or lower.
The Upper Midwest during Winter is pretty much just the game Frostpunk.
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 No.463236

>>463223
The imperial bourgeoisie ordered the pipeline sabotage, it's very unlikely that one of these people are freezing because of this.
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 No.463237

>>463225
Jesus christ what a fucking joke and the government just lets it happen.
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 No.463238

>be me 2022
>Ukraine will be fucked by winter
>mild winter in Ukraine
>ok
>completely fucked winter in imperial core
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