/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>489057
/leftypol/ literally is an 8ch offshoot.

>>489036
>the NazBols.
the "national Bolsheviks" were a fringe political party in Russia that only existed for a few years in the 1990s.

I don't get it, how is that occupying a part of your headspace ?

>>489060
uygha are you new here?

>>489032
There's a formerly popular theory amongst some political Christian circles that Palestinians are actually the real Jews and that the Israeli Jews were fakes.

And I'm leaning more on that side.
I honestly believe that Palestine may be the real Israel and it's destruction will trigger the end times.

I mean. Look at how many people are protesting against Zionism.

>>489058
Yea I know. I used to browse there in the last two years of that boards existence. And people didn't change.

>>489062
>There's a formerly popular theory amongst some political Christian circles that Palestinians are actually the real Jews and that the Israeli Jews were fakes.
It's not really much disputed that Palestinian Christians & Muslims are mostly descended from Jews and Samaritans who converted to Christianity and Islam, which is true even without the "who are the real Israelites?" prophetic/religious speculation.

What about it?

Moved to >>>/777/1526.

I think single moms need money

wtf i like mutual aid now

>>488973
>US imperialism supported the Azov Battalion
>Go look up who funded Hitlers political party and mercenary gangs.
By the way, I really wish lefties would bring up more often the fact that the Azov Battalion was literally funded by a Ukrainian-Israeli billionaire. It brings to bear so many amazing points about the nature of fascism, Zionism, and ruling class interests.

>>488989
no dude, seriously? im literally just telling you about the dilemma that zizek is raising, i never gave an argument in favor of one conclusion or another, why are you just assuming what i believe
please god im begging you people to just engage with zizek here instead of treating this like some kind of breadtuber debate ffs

>>488990
Honestly, this was a really weird thing when I put two and two together about how it could be significant.

>>488976
When I'm general secretary of the United Socialist States of America we will have a secret program that is basically a staged repeat of covid. Creat a panic, rush out a vaccine, don't publish trial data, make up bullshit public health protocols, stage an illegal transfer of wealth.

Then question, strip of title, and re-educate anyone going along with this. Oh you're a doctor and you were okay giving this vaccine? Lose your license. Oh you agreed to give this vaccine to your kids? Maybe you need to take a class.

You're a community leader and you didn't organize against this? Step down.

In fact a socialst government should practice changing leadership by force: every so often people will be required to arm themselves and storm the parliament and depose of the previous government. If they're willing to step downw it will all be staged. If not the people will have practiced for this.

>>489012
>socialist government
>the parliament
Sorry anon we're going to try actual democracy this time.

>>488693
Don't start wars you can't finish.

>>489008
It's astonishing that even in a thread like this, you're still the most bad faith and hateful poster participating.

There is no "Jewish question" Only retards deal in personalities.

>>488994
all israelis are fascist freaks. killing them all is a standard leftist position.

>>489014
Um excuse me
it's ackshually somewhere from 90%-98% of Israelis sir

>>488910
>could you define your terms
Neoprogressivism is 21st century progressivism, third- and fourth-wave feminism is mainstream feminist theory from the 90s onward (radfems, radlibs).

>>488914
Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s

>>488916
>Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s
Yeah, my bad ig.

>>488914
i think it would be more accurate to talk it about a degenerated reprisal of the american left in the form of the millenial left, haunted by the failure and collapse of the left at the turn of the century
we saw the same militant identitarianism and youth fetishization of the new left plus its battles with old labour (think eugene debs) reemerging in sanders, but in a weirdly detached hipster way
its a cheap borrowing from history (a.k.a. a LARP) that doesnt match the same conditions which is probably why it comes off as so hysterical

Third wave feminism is way better than the abomination that was second wave.

>>488929
>>488932
/lgbt/ was added in response to a passing vote created by a regular user. If you do not want the /lgbt/ board to be on the site you can use this exact same process to remove it

Leftychan reminds you that we have a democratic process for changes to the site and its moderation. You are encouraged to propose and vote on changes on our Matrix

>>488948
Don't think he really wants to vote since he knows nobody cares so he wants to scream very loud for people to pay attention.

>>488948
Where is the vote and how can I participate? Thank you kindly.

>>488944
You can literally use the same reasoning to say that all that shit is contained to /lgbt/ and to keep it off /leftypol/ and other boards.

I'm honestly not sure what gay people need a board for but I don't see the harm.

>>488796
I agree with you. I am already of the opinion that we should join liberals in those issues in which we all agree, such as being anti-Trump. But one could say that leftists should simply start their own demonstrations, and not participate in liberal protests while not opposing them either. I am asking a question of strategy, not of principle.

>>488795
I reject the basic premises.

Firstly, the implication of signs like in that image is foremost that Trump is "Russian," with the "Communist" imagery mostly being used as a dumb "gotcha!" and appeal to nationalism. That doesn't mean that no liberals believe it earnestly, but even of those it's not the majority. So basically you have a minority who hold up "Trump = Soviet Communist = bad!" signs and then a minority of those people who earnestly believe, on an intellectual level, that Trump is a Communist. It's a minority of a minority of liberals. I don't deny that that minority of a minority are stupid in that specific way and are holding stupid signs, but every time a guy on an image board is like "look at this one guy in a group of 10,000 people, is this everybody?" it seems odd.

secondly,
>What I ask is this: do you think it is fruitful for American leftists to join liberals in anti-Trump demonstrations? Or should we instead have demonstrations of our own? Could liberal protests become an opportunity for educating liberals, or would attending merely make them more secure in their current ideology?
I reject the premise of all three of these questions.
It is liberals, by which I mean the DNC specifically, who have sought to co-opt the existing protest movement. Under Biden there were massive protests, under Trump they continued. Even these recent "Hands Off!" protests, which have been something the liberal establishment have heavily aimed to direct and co-opt (to avoid the Palestinian genocide and crackdown on anti-Zionism which is a project of both the DNC & GOP) have seen participation, and in some cases continued local dominance, by the anti-genocide demonstrators who people like Pelosi seek to drown out or infiltrate. The left has not stopped protesting. The momentum is something the DNC has lost and is cynically moving to steal. It is not ours to reach out to liberals or to segregate ourselves from opposition to Zionist tyranny and repression by the American state, it is ours to continue to build the movement which the liberal voters, by increasing discomfort at their material conditions under a psychotic American failed state, are now compelled to meet on the streets.

Where protests are concerned, we literally only have to keep doing what we'Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488798
Are you american though?

>>488805
Yeah.

MAGA's working class base is more class consciousness and Communist than 99% of ""leftists"" out there. They associate Trump with Communism for good reason (his working class base which wants popular sovereignty, not Trump himself).

‘Cop City’ legal case could cast spotlight on US police foundations’ activities
In the Atlanta case, a judge is considering 12 hours of testimony, related case law and evidence in a lawsuit that concerns whether records such as board meeting minutes from the Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) are subject to the state’s open records law. If they are, they must be released to plaintiffs: a local digital non-profit news outlet and a Chicago-based research organization.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/copy-city-legal-case-police-foundations

Jewish students at Georgetown protest detention of professor Badar Khan Suri
Suri, a postdoctoral fellow at Georgetown and an Indian national, was arrested by masked federal agents following a Ramadan iftar in March. He is being accused by Department of Homeland Security officials of spreading Hamas propaganda.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/11/g-s1-59580/jewish-students-at-georgetown-protest-detention-of-professor-badar-khan-suri

The Social Security Administration Is Gutting Regional Staff and Shifting All Public Communications to X
“We are no longer planning to issue press releases or those dear colleague letters to inform the media and public about programmatic and service changes,” said SSA regional commissioner Linda Kerr-Davis in a meeting with managers earlier this week. “Instead, the agency will be using X to communicate to the press and the public … so this will become our communication mechanism.”
https://www.wired.com/story/social-security-administration-regional-office-elon-musk-x/
https://archive.ph/sr8pu

CDC denies help for lead poisoning in Milwaukee schools due to layoffs
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has rejected a request from health officials in Milwaukee for help with a lead poisoning investigation, after Health andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Rev Left Radio: m[BEST OF] What Is To Be Done? - V.I. Lenin
ORIGINALLY RELEASED Apr 20, 2019
What is to be Done? is a classic work on the role and organisation of the revolutionary party in the communist movement. Lenin criticises economism, revisionism and spontaneity, and argues persuasively for a centralised and professional vanguard of the proletariat. On this episode of Red Menace Alyson and Breht explain and reflect on the text, and then extract the core lessons for revolutionaries today.
https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/best-of-what-is-to-be-done-vi-lenin-1

(HOUDINI) Update on Malhoud Khalil: They Bet We'll Choose Fear. Let’s Prove Them Wrong.
This man is a permanent resident. Green card holder. His wife's a US citizen. By every measure, he's American. Doesn't matter if he wasn't born here—he's as American as I am, as American as anyone whose family's been here five generations. And they're deporting him. Not for crime, not for violence—for protesting. The US government's excuse? That letting him stay would "weaken efforts to combat antisemitism worldwide." Translation: The regime's ability to do imperialism depends on silencing criticism of Israel. They’re using "antisemitism" as a shield for genocide, for propping up a colonial outpost. And if saying that out loud puts me in legal danger, if it means I could get black-vanned next—then we’ve already lost. Let's be crystal fucking clear: Criticizing Israel isn't antisemitism. Jewish Voices for Peace—actual Jewish anti-Zionists—are defending Khalil. If they’re "antisemitic," then the word means nothing. (Side note: HOUDINI Magazine is named after a Jewish person, so miss me with that shit from the jump.) This is about ideas. Khalil's being deported for his beliefs, same as Italian anarchists during the 1st Red Scare. They’re making up excuses to disappear him because he spoke out. And if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. To me. To anyone.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=776101&title=update-on-malhoud-khalil-they-bet-we-ll-choose-fear-let-s-prove-them-wrong

Young Men ArPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488739
>UN says 36 Israeli attacks killed only Palestinian women, children in Gaza
Wait what ?

Everybody got mad they killed women and children, and they decided lets do only that ?
How did they even manage it ?

>>488746
>How did they even manage it ?
They didn't that shit is statistically impossible.

>>488676
>Cyber defense bill allows collection and use of private information without consent
>The bill under discussion states that the government may enter into agreements with private businesses, including key infrastructure providers and home appliance makers, to have them provide correspondence information.
The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology, they should be calling this "cyber-breach bill" instead. The US forced a backdoor into infrastructure providers too and the Chinese managed rummaging around for 2 hole years before they got detected.

Obviously the war on privacy is an egregious crime, and this should be viewed as a conspiracy not a legislative proposal. I think tho that as a means of repression it could backfire because these kinds of systems are inherently vulnerable to saturation attacks, basically people can use this to ddos the police.

Lastly if a mafia manages to use corruption to get access to this, they'll get the cyber-yakuza

>>488690
>The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology
Known by whom? You shouldn't trust a fucking thing anyone says about state cyberwarfare after the Vault7 leaks. Here's why.

>>488698
Fair point, this pretty much negates attribution.

However the other point that backdooring technology is foolish remains true.

>>488678
>Breaking the Silence on Palestinian Armed Struggle
>On February 22, 2024, China’s Ambassador to The Hague, Zhang Jun, uttered the unexpected. His testimony, like that of a number of others, was meant to help the International Court of Justice (ICJ) formulate a critical and long-overdue legal opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Zhang articulated the Chinese position, which, unlike the American envoy’s testimony, was entirely aligned with international and humanitarian laws. But he delved into a tabooed subject—one that even Palestine’s closest allies in the Middle East and Global South dared not touch: the right to use armed struggle. “Palestinian people’s use of force to resist foreign oppression and complete the establishment of an independent state is an inalienable right,” the Chinese Ambassador said, insisting that “the struggle waged by peoples for their liberation, right to self-determination, including armed struggle against colonialism, occupation, aggression, domination against foreign forces should not be considered terror acts”. Expectedly, Zhang’s comments didn’t reverberate much further: neither governments nor intellectuals, including many on the left, used his remarks as an opportunity to explore the matter further. It’s far more convenient to assign Palestinians the role of the victim or the villain. A resisting Palestinian—one with agency and control over his own fate—is always a dangerous territory.
I almost overlooked this.

Wow that is unusually clear words for a Chinese diplomat.
I'm not well versed in assigning meaning to diplomatic tone. Anybody care to speculate ?

>>488728
>I'm not well versed in assigning meaning to diplomatic tone. Anybody care to speculate ?
What? There's not a whole lot of ambiguity here. This was said at the ICJ, it's a legal argument, and it's simply accurate.