/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>489393
Sounds a bit like a more sophisticated version of Doubleyou's
<they hate us for our freedoms

>>489394
i'm going to make a wild guess that anti-American sentiment isn't really all that ideological. It's more likely about the big empire dropping bombs, doing regime-change and economic warfare.

>>489236
I am a liberal tourist so you may disregard my opinion if you wish. However I have previously pondered how the US might reorganized along political lines significantly different from the status quo. My thoughts are as follows:
I do not think there is a good chance of advancing meaningful reforms at the federal level. The federal government as an imperial entity was created in the US civil war to conquer the CSA; and was subsequently expanded from managing just the military, to interfering with peacetime commerce, foreign trade and later to creation and management of client states. The federal government is also resistant to change by design(separation of powers, and legislative obstructionism exist to do this), and IN THEORY is supposed to have very limited powers (although that concept has been thoroughly undermined at this point). I don't think the common people relate all that much to the goings on in DC and thus are inclined to pick whichever of the political cartel is the most superficially appealing to them.
In order to effectively build meaningful support for reform a movement will have to get wins at the local and state level across the country. American identity could be re-contextualized as the regionalist "peoples of the soil" contending against the abuses of the evil empire; similar to how the South rallied support for the Confederacy despite a minority of the population benefiting from black slavery. The endgame should be to gain control of states with enough economic clout that a movement can bribe the feds into letting them do whatever they want. Or, preferably, get enough states to call a Constitutional Convention and pass reforms without any legal recourse for opposition.

What a load of "lets restart the system somehow guise!" libbery. Get shot.

>>489295
Ogre hates Haz because they have personal history with him, and there's a sperg there that regularly runs defense for the ACP who probably is Haz. That's it, really. It's why you see them talk about him and nobody else in the ACP; it's personal drama, not political disagreement.

As for the ACP, its major members are too culture war pilled. I'm sick of seeing them bitch about blue haired xe/xeminems and spout Andrew Tate manosphere cringe. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the troon stuff either, or really political correctness in general, but I want to know that my comrades are worried about class, not retarded mickey mouse issues.

>>489386
Jackson glows. There's photos of him yucking it up with Tulsi Gabbard, and mere contact with her is enough to make someone glow brighter than the sun.

Why are the ACP/Infrared/Haz looked down upon while BlackRedGuard who joined the DSA as a Maoist is posted without backlash?

Great! More libshit hipoocrisy.

>>491343
What?

Apparently this wasn't even true.

UN denies reports of upcoming General Assembly moving from New York to Geneva
Spokesperson says 'not aware of any preparations' to move assembly after US decision to bar Palestinian delegation from attending yearly high-level event

The UN on Monday dismissed claims that its General Assembly high-level week would be moved from New York to Geneva, following a US decision to bar Palestinian officials from entry.

UN spokesperson Stephane Dujarric described the reports as "misinformation" and said in a news conference that there was "no such vote in the General Assembly" to move the high-level event to another location.

"I'm not aware of any preparations being made to move the General Assembly high-level session out of New York," he added.

Dujarric asserted that "reports on fake news sites" claiming the General Assembly had voted to move the session were "wrong."

Asked about a possible reaction to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas being barred from attending a conference on a two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, Dujarric said: “As far as we know, there’s no change in the host country’s position.”

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Battleship Potemkin moment?

>dying-for-the-bourgeoisie-school shooting
>0 frags
What a fucking uyghur faggot. Der Amerikanische rasse traitor, even, one could say.

Marx-bless, but what about the LGBTQIA Rainbow Mafia™'s thought on this thing? We all know there's Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell closeted Freddy Krueger homosexuals and trans people ready to stand up for their rights, what would they think of this? ZOINKS ENGELS!!

>>461915
Also workers in general are to stupid to understand how unions work. I'm dead serious. At my old job that was union everyone would constantly bitch about the union but never participate in meetings or do anything to support it.

>>460170
>People love a lot of things that make their lives worse. Speaking of chaos and destruction, isn't that state precisely where our fantasies lie? Who wouldn't prefer a Mad Max-style apocalypse to going to work tomorrow? Who wouldn't rather live in a horrible, awful fantasy world like Fallout? I don't think that you appreciate the powder keg that we are sitting on. People hate this fucking world.


People are infected with main character syndrome. They only look at rhe glitz and glamor of Hollywood productions. In real life, alot of people would be overdosing on drugs or suiciding to cope.

People hate their own reality because they crave action/adventure fiction brainrot they read in comic books amd movies.

>>461946
why else is the American South anti-union?


Where I live, its mostly union retiress from the northeast corridor but they vote against union policies here.

>"revolushion iz goming"
>unions
oh brother….

>>491326
HOLY KEK. Welcome back, people's labor mobilization!

>>491244
Truth!

>>491244
It must be easy to go around and just strawman everything. It's easy being a retard I bet

There is no organized left-wing in America, and you're just referring to tumblerinas who migrated into politics but retained their shitty intereste in furry/anime small business shit.

Also there's a growing reflexive dismissal of progressiveness in general among those you call left-wing, opposing nearly any popular technical progress

I agree the anti-recent-AI people are deranged. This new technology can easily displace half our current jobs and give more time for leisure and healthier pursuits.

because the left is constantly infiltrated at every level and sabotaged to take self-defeating political lines

>>491199
>I agree the anti-recent-AI people are deranged. This new technology can easily displace half our current jobs and give more time for leisure and healthier pursuits.

And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.

>>491194
>Firstly, you're an adult. Not everyone you see saying a certain thing represents a monolithic "left."

What does being an adult have to do with this?
Also leftism died in the 1970s in the west

>Art, whatever you might personally think about it, is expression. It doesn't matter what you specifically think of someone else's art, it doesn't matter what motivation they had to create it, there is both expression and discipline involved in the creation of art. Outsourcing it to lines of code sold by Sam Altman seems like a grotesque failure to embrace what is joyful about the human soul; it is not hard labor, it is not dull paperwork, it is expression, and I would rather see a poorly produced stick figure made by a real human being than a "fancy" corporate synthesis of what "professional" art is supposed to look like in order to appeal to humans. Every critique anyone ever had of dull corporate art created for advertising applies doubly here, as the human is factored out to the fullest possible extent, a degree of alienation from humanness which was once impossible.

People are saying this now just because of some machine learning algorithm but before then, people were complaining about PhotoShop “removing humanness” or even digitally made manual art.

Also you saying you’d rather have a stick figure drawn by humans rather than a “line of code” is typical virtue signaling because you are the same folks who shit on DeviantArt posts for not being “eloquent“ enough.

>>491193
>uyghur just found out that the entire foundation of leftism is about horizontal distribution of capital and nothing else (national socialism). Watch and laugh.
Remind me who were the worst enemies of communists in russia and germany. No the monarchists only had 2% of representation, look further fucking retard.

>>491194
Get proled, artisoid. What a load of idealistic wankery you've just generated I wonder if it could be optimized in its production.
Fucking soul in sharting out one media piece for massa after another for years! Soul! Do not fret my little uyghur, picking up cotton is not a mechanistic process but an art unto itself! Blaqq qreativity! Take that you whitey!

>>491242
>And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.
Guess how profit is made! Fucking retard.
>Also leftism died in
Leftism, being an inalienable part of capital (it's in the fucking name you retard!) will only die along with private property when there would be no ownership to stretch along the masses to make them participants in the process of exploitation of labor up to imperialism proper. Dying leftism is a sign of societal fabric ripping into contradictive classes, when the ruling bourgs find themselves in a systemic crisis which forces them to strip everything off and throw it into the oven of profit despite the hitleritian screechings of the genetically enhanced free and democratic unterbourgeoisie finding itself in the trashbin of exploitation they spat into their entire rational and educated upstanding mittelklassoid lives.

>>491242
>And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.

You're using it wrong then. And in a few years it won't even require being that strategic in what you feed it or how you prompt it.

The whole definition of AI is replacing human capabilities. If there's "more work" after than then it's just make-work.

US reportedly suspends visa approvals for nearly all Palestinian passport holders
The United States has suspended visa approvals for nearly everyone who holds a Palestinian passport, the New York Times reported on Sunday. The restrictions go beyond those Donald Trump’s administration had previously announced on visitors from Gaza. They would prevent Palestinians from traveling to the United States for medical treatment, attending college and business travel, the newspaper reported, citing unidentified officials. The state department said two weeks ago that it was halting all visitor visas for individuals from Gaza while it conducts “a full and thorough” review, a move that has been condemned by pro-Palestinian groups.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/31/palestine-passport-visa-approval-suspension

1.2 million immigrants are gone from the US labor force under Trump, preliminary data shows
Immigrants make up almost 20% of the U.S. workforce and that data shows 45% of workers in farming, fishing and forestry are immigrants, according to Pew senior researcher Stephanie Kramer. About 30% of all construction workers are immigrants and 24% of service workers are immigrants, she added.
https://apnews.com/article/labor-day-immigration-trump-9a40f9e371209cc1d145e4a7f157a499

California’s Democratic governor leads the charge in expanding state repression
Under the guise of public safety and compassion, the Democratic governor has placed the California Highway Patrol (CHP) at the center of two major new enforcement regimes: a statewide “crime suppression” expansion and a “homeless encampment clearance” task force. These measures are being marketed as alternatives to Trump’s deployments of federal forces into major U.S. cities, but in substance, they mirror their basic functions. Far from opposing the authoritarian measures emanating from Washington, Newsom’s actions mimic them, signaling a growing alignment between the Democratic Party and the Trump administration on the fundamental issue: the use of state repression to deal with the social crisis created by capitalism.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Indonesia: the wheel of revolution has turned
Within a week, what began as demonstrations with a semi-insurrectionary character have turned into an open revolutionary uprising which shows no sign of stopping. It is not only tearing down government buildings and police stations, but more importantly, it is shattering the mass stupor that has kept the people in chains. A revolution has begun. Louis XVI: “Is this a rebellion? La Rochefoucauld: “No, Sire. This is a revolution.” Scenes of burned parliamentary buildings, government offices, and above all, police stations have flooded the media. But most striking are the countless live broadcasts from the millions of demonstrators, which truly capture the revolutionary spirit of the moment. These images call to mind the scenes of the 1998-99 revolutionary period. The first provincial parliamentary building to be set ablaze by the people was in Makassar, the day after the police killed a 21-year-old ride-share driver, Affan Kurniawan. This was quickly followed by similar scenes in Tegal, Solo, Surakarta, Bandung, and West Nusa Tenggara. In Pekalongan, the action began as a peaceful vigil where people mourned and laid flowers for Affan Kurniawan. But it immediately turned into a conflagration, as the furious anger of the masses burst forth. The list grows longer by the day, as more demonstrations and escalations unfold. As we write these lines, the masses have already added Brebes, Pekalongan, Cilacap and Kediri to the list – we are struggling to keep up with the rapid developments, which are the very essence of a revolution.
https://marxist.com/indonesia-the-wheel-of-revolution-has-turned.htm

CVS Strangled, Then Swallowed, Rite Aid
Just days after CVS Caremark was slapped with a $290 million fine for defrauding Medicare, bankruptcy trustees representing Rite Aid sued the pharmacy benefit manager for nearly twice that amount for allegedly operating an unlawful and anticompetitive prescription drug profit “scheme.” The new complaint filed this month asserts that CVS Caremark “devastated” Rite Aid by overcharging an estimated $500 million in fraudulent “clawback” penalties — fees that CVS Caremark demanded long after drug prescriptions were filled. This comes as Rite Aid, once the third-largest pharmacy chain in the UnitePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>491255
>the scenes of the 1998-99 revolutionary period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_Indonesia_riots
>were incidents of mass violence and civil unrest in Indonesia, many of which targeted the country's ethnic Chinese population
Yikes.

If its possible to have video streaming through the darknet, it should be possible to livestream as well. Especially if they are willing to tolerate a little latency.

Another possibility is the hidden service doesn't directly host the streams. There was a thread with a list of Facebook live.

>>491086
>Quite a few "recent event" threads that happen to line up exactly with the dates they got in the news. Do these pedos have push notifications turned on so they can log on to their favorite pedophile forum to discuss it?
Isn't it normal for discussions of news stories to mostly be around the dates the news stories took place?


Anyways, that's not the case for all of the events. A user made a thread on February 4th about receiving a pardon for jan6. But those pardons actually went out on January 20th, right after Trump entered office: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/granting-pardons-and-commutation-of-sentences-for-certain-offenses-relating-to-the-events-at-or-near-the-united-states-capitol-on-january-6-2021/

>>491075
Methinks that the leak is fake.

>>491245
Why?

I think you guys are missing the larger point, which is that troons make up a statistically negligible portion of the population. The media, including social media, exposes you to them constantly because it's profitable to make people angry and beneficial to the bourgeois to keep people divided over culture-war issues, since they ultimately aren't affected by any of it. But if you put down your phone and take a look at the world around you, you'll notice a very interesting trend; you almost never run into actual troons in real life.

Discussing transgenderism as if it were a meaningful social issue, getting obsessed with the integrity of women's sports that you don't actually watch, freaking out over transgenders being pedophiles, is the equivalent of freaking out over pagan animal sacrifices. It's a non-issue that has been made a thing to distract from the class struggle.

>>491019
>Was happening in shitlib areas on the West coast, in general 27% of people between 13-24 identify as Transgender/NB, that's fucking INSANE for a disorder that exists in fractions of a single percent of the population.

Have you considered the the American west coast was always super liberal?

Also using terms like “it’s insane for a disorder to exist” is hyperbole

Transgenderism is not a mental disorder.
And stop morally obsessing over young peoples preferences that doesn’t involve rape or murder or robbery

>Because right wing people do something, doesn't been troons aren't awash with pedophile predators. Troons have entire disco servers and subreddits like egging, dedicated to grooming children. Lolicon and ageplay and all sorts of pedo shit is completely mainstream and frankly the majority among troon communities. Troons literally hold that children have fully formed sexual self identity.

First of all, do not confuse Loli and ageplay for pedophilia.
Second of all, that grooming behavior you’re describing is ironically more common on the right.

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>>491142
Those trans people you’re describing are fakers

>>491223
This

OP is exaggerating a literal non-issue. Most of the sick degenerate stuff that transhumanists are allegedly doing is mainly cis folk who blaspheme transgender in for their own agenda

>>490905
>Response to any questions is just calling people "TERF"'s and crybullying like Zionists.
Critical support to cvꑭᛏoidϟ in their struggle against ᛏrooꑭoid ideꑭᛏariϟm
>Largely ignore the rampant misogyny in the movement.
Critical support to ᛏrooꑭoidϟ in their struggle against cvꑭᛏoid ideꑭᛏariϟm
>Can't even define what a woman or man is.
Bullshit made up to divide the proletaryat into another batch of competing uyghur nations (identities) to fuck them both in different ways while they fight each other.
>Largely moves to actually reinforce gender norms in almost a parody way.
Oh shit, just like cvntnazism does! Holy fuck, how?!
>Muh trans genocide despite it's been debunked
Just like muh cvnt oppression, precisely

>the left
libs. It's all libs you fucking lib, now gtfo and kys

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