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 No.459935[Reply]

John Fetterman is cool because he's the cognitive deficiency candidate. Mr. Oz has smarts, but he only knows how to use them for evil. He made his bones terrorizing the brains of innocent old insane dementia people, scamming them with fraudulent weight loss products. Fetterman may be dumb but he knows how to stack bricks and smear mortar on the bricks for 16 hours a day in the hot Pennsylvanian sun. That is a deed Mr. Oz has never known once in his privileged life.
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 No.459960

If fetterman wins it will be sublime justice
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 No.466342

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Kek, left(tm)fags literally voted a braindead guy into office (for the 2nd time in 2 years)
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 No.466343

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>>466342
>it's another pol-conflates-liberals-with-leftists episode
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 No.466344

>>466343
If the shoe fits
>Muh, we want the same thing but real leftist believe we have to have a revolution and destroy society to get it
Ya, so different
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 No.466345

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>>466343
>it's another everything-i-disagree-with-is-conflated-with-pol episode


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 No.466289[Reply]

All U.S. extremist mass killings in 2022 linked to far right, report says
https://web.archive.org/web/20230224021503/https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/mass-killings-extremism-adl-report-2022
When will the public wake up to this existential threat?
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 No.466293

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>Anti-Defamation League
lol, got a real source?
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 No.466313

>>466293
The anti defamation league isn't the source though lol
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 No.466317

>>466313
They performed the study.
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 No.466318

>>466293
>DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS
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 No.466323

>>466318
There's plenty of Jews that I like, such as the fine journalists at the Grayzone. ADL on the other hand is basically a lobby for Israeli Zionists and has a long track record of lies and smears. They are not a very credible group when it comes to assessing others' politics.


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 No.198097[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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 No.446110

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>can't even get a vaccine in private without muh gobermint documents
>banned tiktok and other apps from the market for bitch ass reasons

fucker can't decide to be a libertarian or a government stickler
i hate it here

independence my ass, stalin was right. the bourgeois only changed hands from british to indian
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 No.448388

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/hundreds-booked-for-harassing-molesting-pakistani-tiktoker-girl-in-lahore/articleshow/85429258.cms

What the fuck is wrong with our region

This literally sounds like an insane strawman you would imagine some radlib making but it's fucking real.

Is it all just because of sexual repression and patriarchy?
Nobody is safe from getting assaulted men, women, children, animals

I don't think our countries will be ever safe unless we go through some kind of cultural revolution.
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 No.448423

Thoughts on Narendra Dabholkar?
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 No.452253

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This one pro-reservation meme made so many redditors seethe

Not to be unexpected since most of them are worthless, reactionary rich kids on a meme sub but still.

Other than the corruption aspect where people fake documents to pretend to be lower class, I don't get the hate regarding reservation.
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 No.466208

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 No.465059[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Before Karl Marx wrote the political economy of capital, he was studying energy conservation laws. The tendency for the falling rate of profit is partially an expression of that.

Capitalist ideologues that are pretending that capitalism can go on for ever are basically peddling the same scam ass free energy perpetual motion devices.

In Marxist theory, the falling rate of profit is caused by the capitalist system changing the material conditions until it can no longer reproduce its existence.

Capitalism is not a perfect machine that will continue working until the profit-rate reaches zero. It will likely stall out some time before that. In this context perfect capitalism has perfect market-competition between capitalists, and all the capitalists are reinvesting 100% of their profits into new/upgraded means of production. No surplus goes into prestige projects, ruling class luxury, wars and means of political domination. All those expenses will make the system stall out earlier than the theoretical ideal of capitalism.

Marx also said that the mode of production changes once the old mode of production can no longer advance the productive forces.
That is also something that arises from statistical mechanics of thermo dynamics. In simple words low entropy increasing systems are statistically less likely to exist than systems that increase more entropy. The productive forces are really good at increasing entropy and the more advanced the better they become at increasing entropy. War is also very good at increasing entropy, so if you value peace, you value investing in developing the productive forces. It is not possible to choose a low entry path, like for example going back to agrarian society, because it will anger the gods of entropy.

Should we say it's a cooling rate of profit ?
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 No.466046

>>466042
There is very little mass in the fusion plasma so it can hardly store any thermal energy, hence it can't impart much heat-energy to the reactor wall by touch. If the fusion plasma touches the reactor wall it just vaporizes the topmost layer of atoms from the reactor wall surface, and that doesn't matter, because that's an insignificant amount of wear and tear compared to everything else.
It won't melt the reactor, because the instant the fusion plasma goes out of vacuum and touches anything it will cool down below the temperature it can sustain fusion and it will instantly cease to produce heat.

Basically if the plasma touches anything the fusion gets extinguished and then it's just an incredibly thin gas.

On the off chance that you are interested in learning why you were wrong, you could read about the difference between thermal energy Q and temperature T.
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 No.466047

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>>466045
>still no working fusion reactor
didn't get enough funding.
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 No.466148

>>466047
This is mostly due to people freaking out about nuclear energy with no understanding of it. Things are changing.
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 No.466173

>>466148
no
this is simply because there are cheaper, easier and financially safer ways to produce energy in the short-term
its just le "market forces" at work
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 No.466187

>>466173
Well, there's that too, but, also what I said. It's multifaceted like all things. The anti nuke movent did play a large role in fear mongering about nuclear energy.


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 No.465117[Reply]

Well, I've been thinking about this issue, which is quite delicate for obvious reasons, and I think that eugenics is not necessarily a policy of the left or the right, but it depends on how it is applied.

To begin with, it must be said that eugenics is nothing more than favoring certain biological characteristics over others for future generations, it could be said that it is a form of self-managed evolution, it has a bad reputation because when it was applied in countries like the United States or the Nazi Germany what was intended was to exterminate populations considered inferior, however, is this the only form of eugenics?

If 20, 30, 40 or even 100 years from now, genetics were mastered well enough to be able to modify the DNA of an embryo with minimal risk, couldn't this be used to improve our species? Couldn't dozens if not hundreds of genetic diseases be exterminated? Couldn't we design children who grow up to be healthier, stronger and more intelligent? And if that were the case, couldn't a public eugenics program be promoted? that is to say, that couples who are interested can access a genetic modification program to promote these beneficial characteristics in their future child. Wouldn't this be a kind of "socialist eugenics"?

I believe that eventually it is inevitable that genetic modification of embryos will become commonplace, and therefore it is important that the idea of ​​public eugenics be promoted, otherwise only people with enough money to pay for these programs could access to them, and that would eventually lead to a much more evident caste system than the current one, where the rich are practically supermen with advantages that allow them to dominate the labor and scientific market while the poorest classes would be relegated to occupying a position increasingly irrelevant in society.

Anyway, I'd like to discuss the matter because I find it interesting.
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 No.466023

>>466018
>Based common sense poster
Unfortunately, most people here are mouthbreathers who judge things based on if it sounds good
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 No.466024

>Poor people are probably smarter than rich people because they had to develop more brain power to live on a small budget
What a cope. Every study (and basic common sense) suggests that chronic, low level stress associated with poverty dulls the ability for long term planning and wise descision making. Anyone whose visited an deeply impoverished country or neighborhood could tell you that.
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 No.466026

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>>466023
it used to be common sense to gulag the "lets murder the poor gang"
what a fall from grace
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 No.466027

>>466024
>Every study suggests that chronic, low level stress associated with poverty dulls the ability for long term planning and wise descision making.
That is true. We can conclude that the people who were made poor (by rich-people stealing from them, which is how pretty much all poverty is created these days), are subject to bad environments.

So in order for you to judge their root intelligence, you have to subtract the bad environmental influences. And it's pretty obvious that these people needed better brains to begin with, to explain that they still have a somewhat functional brain left in bad conditions.

If rich people were actually superior, they wouldn't need to inflict poverty on others to bring them down. If the leaders in your society are actually high caliber people they don't need to strangle the competition by casting them into poverty to dull their brains
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 No.466051

Looks like a eugenist exposes himself as a sniveling retard yet again, and gets enabled to say such stupid shit. I can't even with these assholes.

Any time someone cites intelligence measurements from long ago, it should be understood to be more Galtonite faggotry superimposed on any actual assessment. It's strange how a society without autism score s produced better people who retained more of their wits than eugenic society, and how every eugenic policy has meant retardation and poisoning of people. This idea that you get better by killing each other like retards is what ghetto uyghurs think. The Nazis are just uyghurs that masturbated their melanin away and resemble the Yakub story about the white man's origins - and when you get into their esoteric faggotry, they believe in something like the Yakub story but that it was a good thing. Ask how well the slave societies of West Africa were and the incentives at work, because slavery kept on going all the way through the 20th century, and continued even though it was stigmatized.

Before you say anything about baseline intelligence, you would have to conceive of society working in any way we would consider good, and that has never been the case. Those who rule society and give us our ideas are the worst pieces of shit who have lived since time immemorial by beating and humiliating most of humanity. Whatever intelligence we attain in this society is in spite of its institutions, and if we lived in a society that actually favored the full development of knowledge and favored the expression of any hereditary intelligence, even the dullest of us would be much smarter. Strange thing is, nowadays they have a better understanding of how people think. They could teach the autists and retards if they wanted to, but there is immense pressure to absolutely refuse to do that, and deny that the victims will on their own initiative learn what they can. It is an absolute that autism score 0 must be maintained forever, so a bunch of screaming Germanic retards can maintain their faggot cope.


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 No.465309[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ok, I've never really heard anyone here explain what the left is (except the one dude with the asinine and convoluted definition about 'how the left doesn't exist because people don't perceive the left or it doesn't do the same thing as 100 years ago).

I've obviously used this place as a bit of a platform to rant against muhleft or the left (tm), and I genuinely appreciate the latitude the mods have given me to do that - since I feel like critique of the left has always been a tradition within the broader termed left. (Bolshevik split with the Mensheviks, the anti-revisionists broke from the USSR, in the west the 60s new left broke from the old, etc).

In some ways, the fake and ghey left is an example of a section of the broader left trying to distinguish themselves from the rest, albeit on a misguided cultural footing within the lap of finance capital.

But, this still an open question: what is the left.

I always find myself returning to the Marx quote - the free development of each is the free development of all.

This presents a sort of paradox, since development (on the individual and collective level) itself is never free. It always has an expense. Moreover, often development occurs faster through episodes of adversity, challenge, and even necessity.

At the same time you have a situation in which something is to lacking of freedom, has very little optionality or autonomy, it becomes stunted or dies, or it develops accordingly as cattle.

So you have these two (four really) qualities you wanted to maximize: collective and individual liberty and development. Of course, you cant completely 'max out' one without sacrificing stats in the others, but you can arrange a society in which all are raised a great bit.
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 No.465866

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>>465860
Well if you want to post nothing but pepes and le heckin soyjackarinos go to 4chan

>ZOMG GUIS WHY ARE YOU HAVING AN INTELLECTUAL CONVERSATION ON A LEFTIST IMAGE BOARD CAN'T WE JUST POST ONE MAN ONE JAR FOR THE 1MILLIONTH TIME?
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 No.465867

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>>465844
You really have a thing for that LARPer.
>Very ideological, don't you think?
No, it's narcissistic cosplay, which is what he did regularly in public.
>Nah, must be because he is just a madman and thinks he is a literal Hercules or something.
That would definitely appear to be the more likely scenario given how he liked to play at being a gladiator.
>nothing to do with politics..
Nothing about the reign of Commodus suggests that he had any political acumen whatsoever. We are talking about the guy who crashed the Antonine Dynasty.
>>465855
>It must be that free citizens became coloni of some landlord out of the good life, because there was just so much "free fertile land" laying around.
Are we talking about Roman plebs or are we talking about veterans of the legions?
>and there was no such phenomena as raider takeovers of the polis lands by landlords and the arbitrary moving of the landmarks that required a special attention of the emperor with a rescript..
I seem to recall Augustus (or was it Tiberius?) dealing with that little scheme in his day, but he did so by convincing the senate to condemn the offenders so that it would be regared as an act of justice rather than an arbitrary assassination of his own political opponents. That is the way that someone who is good at politics handles such a situation.
>By that time the municipal slaveowners didn't need more slaves, they were struggling with their own.
How long had it been since there had been an actual slave revolt at that point? Two-hundred years? The slavers weren't struggling that badly.
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 No.465869

>>465866
Go back, trawny
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 No.466006

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>>465867
Ok, I really need to expand on how I view the Roman history in general so you can understand where I am coming from.

First, the basic foundational element of the roman and ancient way of life is civitas - a polis commune. A commune with common polis lands, assembly, magistracies, division of labor by "orders" and all the bells and whistles that come with it. This commune by its very nature produces slavery because to enable expanded reproduction of the polis beyond the family unit and a mutual neighbor help you need non-citizens.
The foundation of the civitas, a citizen who can take part in the public life of the polis (including deciding agrarian policy) - a self-sufficient free farmer.
The polis ideology was such that wealthier citizens were morally required to "take care" of their poorer brethren. From this you have what in general could be called "bread and circuses" and later in the Empire basically basic income for the poorest citizens of Rome.
The poorest citizens of Rome in the course of its history have won some concessions including a say in the decisions of agrarian policy. They got land all around Italy and then the Meditterain.

Long story short, for the last century of the Republic for the large part the Roman state was conducting a program of the populares in its agrarian policy. The Emperors of the first century for the most part continued this program by confiscating the lands of large landowners and redistributing them to the citizens.
Then came the Antonines who were the henchmen of the senate, who branded the previous emperors as "tyrants", who ended the practice of land redistributions, and so you see a rapid growth of large landownership, with the first landowner and the feudal being the Emperor himself (the villas of the emperor were among the first to widely use colonate on their lands), which was a death warrant to the Roman civitas and the roman army and so to the Roman Empire itself as a political entity (which is what happened further down the line).

So in the light of all this, I see Commodus and the later soldier emperors as a reaction (and a belated one at that) to this existential threat to the Roman civitas.


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 No.465960[Reply]

Canadian glowuyghur is also a pedophile. This is important news I must share with the entire internet. Please like and upv0te
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 No.465961

4chan is a compromised glowop


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 No.465847[Reply]

Syria got hit by the most severe earth quake in recent history. And most of the world send disaster relieve aid, even the western sanctions got lifted a tiny little bit.

Except for Israel they just fucking bombed Damascus.


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 No.455247[Reply]

Opinions on the Unabomber and specially his manifesto
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 No.465312

>>465310
Yes, I know, I have an opinion. How shocking.
So what's your point? Do you have an argument, or just insults?
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 No.465653

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The best ideas in ISAIF originally came from the Technological Society, which imo, does a better way of conveying it but is much longer and verbose.

I actually don't know if Ted actually read Marx or any early century author, or how much research he's done into them. But it's not as if Ted's views were the result of mental illness or trauma.
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 No.465654

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>>465312
>my opinion doesn't need any justification
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 No.465684

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For a primativist he was still pretty based and red pilled. The issue with terrorism, again, always comes down to the selfish motivation of it. It's ultra-leftist action and turns the general popuation against you. Not to mention the fact he was just wrong
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 No.465968

>>465684
>terrorism
>selfish motivation
>it's ultra-leftist
Cringe.

Terrorism is infra-leftist since it is born out of thinking that it is just some people are a problem and not their position in the political system that will always put new replacement parts into itself the moment the positions become vacant.


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 No.465507[Reply]

lol

Any questions?

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1366208.html
saved: https://archive.md/0wMAN

I mean, seriously, any questions left at this point?
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 No.465642

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>>465528
>china by every metric is capitalist
This book is the single book you will need to read in your life, m8. Just read it, "comrade,"… it ain't too long. If you think that a "comrade" should become accustomed to "both sides of the issue," than this fucking book is yours.
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 No.465643

>>465529
>ppl who use leftychan.net are using it because they are "fash"
lmao, kys

>>465540
based

>>465558
>>465555
unironically, yes
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 No.465644

>>465521
These kinds of people don't require payment or control. They are just that stupid.
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 No.465646

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>>465529
Oh yeah the mods aren’t totally trooned out libs
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