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 No.497079[Reply]

Thread for all things Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Or "North Korea" to angloids.
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 No.498473

>>498472
>should have
Says who? By what authority should anyone have anything? And if it's decided what people should have, who is to implement it. Are you going to deliver to people what they "should have"?

The Koreans have worked hard to raise their standards of living, those are real achievements made possible through labor. All you have is wishful thinking about some abstract ideal that should exist.
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 No.498486

>>498473
What about gay marriage in North Korea? Seems like it's illegal, along with same-sex couples adopting.
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 No.498487

>>498486
I don't know the laws over there. Marriage from the point of view of the state is about reproducing society, gays can't reproduce so it makes sense that they don't get marriage benefits. This is the norm for almost all societies in history.

Explicitly allowing it basically only happens in western liberal countries, so it's seen as bourgeoisie eccentrism, and the LGBTQ+ movement itself was funded and promoted by the western oligarchy, so purity testing nations based on their acceptance of neoliberal sexual ideology makes no sense, since only western capitalists benefit from its acceptance. It's kind of like asking a communist country why it hasn't embraced neoliberal capitalism as some kind of gotcha - except it's not purely an economic question.

Beyond that from what I know about asian culture is that they're pretty accepting of sexuality, they just don't put it in the center of everything, so I'm assuming north korea isn't too different in what's accepted over there.
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 No.498488

>>498487
>so purity testing nations based on their acceptance of neoliberal sexual ideology makes no sense
Chiming in to say I completely agree with this, even if I don't agree with everything else you wrote. The "freedom" standards of western liberalism are used as a kind of selective blinder, encouraged as a metric for judging other cultures despite the fact that they are increasingly superficial. At the end of the day, it's a metric by which a country which is economically enslaved by the USA and has little or no sovereign control over its resources, spending, foreign policy, or speech, but puts western liberal values into its legal code can be deemed more "free" than a country which controls its own resources, policy, spending, etc. but where getting fucked in the ass and talking proudly about it is illegal. I personally am not opposed, at all to gay marriage or open homosexuality or anything like that, but I also live in a culture and society where this stuff is normal; and the reasoning, here, for it being normal and accepted is, ultimately, built on top of, or with influence from, a long history of liberal social philosophy and culture. To say that this philosophy and culture is superior and that everyone else must adhere to it simply because I personally do not disagree with small parts of it when the economic side of it has genocided, enslaved, murdered, coup'd, robbed, and dispossessed millions is the height of arrogance and just another way to try to enforce cultural hegemony on those who are different, with no proof whatsoever that it would be beneficial to them.
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 No.498835

>>498488
Not to derail the thread away from north korea, but neolib propaganda will also do this thing with Palestinians where they say: "if you're gay and go over there they would kill you" as a gotcha to wrongly assert that they don't treat their gays with dignity, but then use that as a moral justification for bombing the shit out of them (including their gay population). It's fucked up. I'm sure they use the same rhetoric with NK now that I think about it.

To me it seems like the rainbow flag movement is like a trojan horse for submission to the hegemony. They want to [symbolically] plant that flag wherever they conquer.

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 No.498783[Reply]

12 March 1942 - 27 August 2026
Per Wiki:
"Mladić died at the United Nations Detention Unit in The Hague, on 27 August 2026, after suffering several strokes. He was 84."

I forgot that he wasn't arrested until 2011, and was found guilty by the International Criminal Court in 2017.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2011/06/mlad-j01.html

This occurs 20 years after Slobodan Milošević died in The Hague - with the International Court of Justice (a UN body, not to be confused with the ICC) later absolving Milošević of some of the charges leveled at him by the separate International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2007/03/icj-m16.html

To date, no one involved in the criminal 1999 NATO carpetbombing of Yugoslavia has been arrested.

https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/1999-NATO-Serbia

Discuss the death of Mladić, the fall of Yugoslavia and the Yugoslav Wars. I'd like to learn more about these topics!
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 No.498784

What did he actually do or not do?
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 No.498792

>>498784
Gave the order for the massacre at Srebrenica as far as I know. I'd be interested to know if this is contested, though.

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 No.498621[Reply]

>no civil war or anything beyond a big funeral
>didn't become a martyr
>wasn't forgotten but only bc of kirkification memes
>killed by someone with no manifesto, left bias motive but tyler never said anything extreme even
>conservatives can't actually agree on who killed him though
September 10th 2025 was so fucking fun. The seethe from the right was unbelievably hilarious. I'm glad he's dead. I wonder if anything cool will happen on the Kirkiversary.
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 No.498626

>conservatives can't actually agree on who killed him though
Why do you act as if it's only conservatives who are able to engage their critical thinking skills and weigh the evidence on this? Are you trying to make the rest of us look like gullible idiots?
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 No.498628

>>498626
>It's not just conservatives that think there's a conspiracy!
Yes, it's just you dumb fucks.
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 No.498630

>>498628
This isn't just a lie on your part, it's a weird lie, which was already debunked before you said it.
See >>498623
It's very odd that you hang around this site spewing the FBI's horseshit narrative and accusing everyone who doesn't buy it of being a conservative. The idea that it's a conservative thing at all is basically topsy turvy land nonsense - it doesn't even make sense to believe that it's relegated to them, because that implies that conservatives are singularly prone to randomly defend transhumanists, the group the FBI tried to pin it on. If the frame up had been pulled off more smoothly, if Ackman hadn't threatened Charlie Kirk before it happened, if the FBI had done a better job with the forgery, conservatives would be the first people to uncritically believe it and go on pogroms of HRT clinics. The fact that even they saw through it is a testimony to how unconvincing the FBI's forgery was and how suspicious the surrounding context makes their claims.

Dimitri Lascaris, Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, there's no shortage whatsoever of people on the left who very openly doubt the veracity of the FBI's narrative, so why you continue to lie and attempt to paint this as something partisan when it is not is anyone's guess.
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 No.498633

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BOOM Headshot Day should be celebrated at the rifle range just as Charlie would have wanted.
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 No.498636

Still waiting for the FBI to explain how a hunting round that can decapitate deer somehow left Kirk's neck intact.

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 No.498523[Reply]

Mestizos are reclaiming the country one abuela's secret recipe at a time, Watch out, history books you're about to get rewritten with a lot more cilantro
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 No.498539

>>498538
Bill Ackman could still kill Charlie Kirk even if 2A wasn't a thing tbh.
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 No.498553

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 No.498556

>>498553
There isn't even on ether of justice. This shit doesn't happen at womens prison.
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 No.498620

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 No.498624

>>498620
>editing it to replace "5 billionaires" with "20 million white people"
wdhmbt

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 No.498549[Reply]

they demand you work, as a neet im what marx would call lumpenproletariat trash

under nazism, I'd be called shy worker and get instantly killed iif i happen to be a neet in Nachi germany

But yeah, neeting is my best option rn. It's just not available to everyone.

after a long journey through fascism, communism, and many other isms, i have settled on the fact i value freedom over most things, and the only ideology that gels with that is anarchism
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 No.498550

Most lumpenproles also work, actually. It's not a state of unemployment by definition, it's usually just really shitty, or taboo, low level work, sometimes illegal.

The idea that communism "demands" work is dumb. Socialism offers massive jobs programs, that's not a "demand," that's not "forced labor," that's community, that's mobilization, that's enablement for anyone to get paid, regular work without having to go out begging for it. Anyone who would still be a "NEET" under such circumstances would almost certainly be too disabled to be forced into anything.
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 No.498561

>>498549
OP nobody likes work, you just have the privilege of being able to NEET instead of being homeless and starving. Communists actually acknowledge that works does suck, and it's probably going to suck for quite some time still, but at least communists understand that with automation we can reduce the number of hours in the work week. And in later stages of socialism work won't feel like you're going to work, it will be closer to how natives feel about going out hunting for their tribe, they don't complain about it being a grind.
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 No.498567

>>498550
all NEETs should be deported from the 3rd world to accelerate the building of the productive forces and the accumulation of capital there.

All NEETs in the 3rd world should be deported to the 1st world to accelerate the collapse of the imperial core.

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 No.498514[Reply]

Russia is only pretending to support and fund nazis to ragebait the west!
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 No.498559

To this day I don't fully get communists' aversion to criticizing Russia, a capitalist oligarchy. Just because they're a historic ally and antagonise the West?
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 No.498560

>>498514
OP what are you talking about specifically? Are you just regurgitating state department propaganda? This seems like lazy bait, 1/10
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 No.498562

Do we need not have enough jannies lately? This low effort spam has been on the front page rather long now.

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 No.498508[Reply]

so-called "free" markets tend towards monopoly. It's easy to understand this when you don't have a log stuck in your eye. Economies of scale. Network effect. Competition is bullshit
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 No.498510

Whoa.
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 No.498518

there is no such thing as markets
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 No.498536

>>498508
Yep. This was basically figured out in/by the 1800s; not even just by socialists, guys like Henry George were able to observe that wealth accrued in the hands of a few even as national wealth increased. Neoliberal "freedom" is actually just the "freeing" of wealth and power from any kind of democratic (or popular, if you will) checks. "Free markets" with no mechanism to curb rentseeking, corporate power (even the early US was stricter about corporate charters than the present-day US), and monopolistic control are actually just backdoor Fascism.
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 No.498537

>>498536
Well said.
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 No.498558

Preaching to the choir brotha

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 No.488634[Reply]

If you are not posting on 4chan you are failing as a leftist in the most fundemental way possible. Right now there is a huge opportunity to use the market crash and consequential recession that is coming to turn a lot of dissolusioned right wingers over to our side. To the side of truth, reason and sanity. I post on /b/ at the very least when a thread comes up revolving around trump and go on pol daily. We have to be where they are. We cannot just keep sequestering ourselves off in our hug boxes all the time. You have to be posting on 4chan as well.
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 No.498521

>>488634
"cOnVErTinG NAzeEs" is a fools errand and it's always proposed by a crypto fascist to either waste the left's time or to save the fuck head reactionaries he identifies with, or both.
If anything trying to save quote unquote "liberals" is orders of magnitude more productive than exhausting yourself trying to convince some CHUD black people are human.
Most liberals are apolitical and have uncritically accepted the dominant political ideology, they don't have any material interest in liberalism or any real convictions about it.
Your friends will face the wall during the revolution, and there's nothing you can do about it. Cope.
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 No.498524

>>498517
This is why no one takes leftoids seriously
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 No.498525

>>498509
I happen to be behind one. CGNAT is getting more common around the world. And there's almost no IPv6 in my country, rare and expensive. Soo here I am.
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 No.498531

>>498521
Serious question why do you hate being white?
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 No.498532

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>>498524
>>498524
I mean he's not wrong. Going outside just means "coonsooming" There's nothing meaningful outside in the world anymore. Sure the occasional hang out with an old buddy or a drink with some friends is one thing but this constant obsession with touching grass is so gay. I'm going to sit at home like a miser and save up money so I can actually survive capitalism when i get old and decrepit.

I know the left in the modern age is a bunch of do nothing ultras.

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 No.497886[Reply]

>be euro
>not have one of these
>die
why are they like this?
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 No.498326

>>498323
>I'm broke
This is fair, but a window from China isn't expensive.

The rest of your post is cope, you can just use a piece of cardboard and tape until you figure out a better solution.

There is some retarded cultural shit where euros have to make every excuse to defend not having one. It's basically cope - the climate has changed. Adapt or suffer.
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 No.498327

>>498318
>it's nationalism
That kinda makes sense actually. EU is a lot further north than Burgerland so it's mostly cope to justify something.
>Europeans, even western ones, are actually quite ignorant on average
It's especially the western ones, they have the same propaganda brainrot America does but they think they're superior anyway. Eastern europe at least went through communism and kept some of the societal cultural benefits from that era.

Anyways the west is retarded, only communism can fix this. QED
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 No.498346

>>498325
I was in Frankfurt, so "West" Germany.
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 No.498400

retro eschaton "negative space" pension to reboot FULLY AUTOMATIC SPACE COMUNISM! #rokosbasilisk
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 No.498459

>>497886
<be European
>have one ASHP to heat house during spring and autumn
<use cooling down 2 weeks in a year

 No.498442[Reply]

From The Anti-Empire Project:
YouTube takes down old videos discussing the writings and speeches of Israeli-assassinated Resistance leaders (3 and counting), also eliminates (and reinstates) The East is a Podcast. Why I'm leaving this place, and where to find future videos.

Justin Podur and the Anti-Empire Project is leaving YouTube due to increasing sitewide censorship and suppression of free discussion & documentation.
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 No.498446

>>498445
No it's really not, like I said AI can walk you through it. And peers on peer tube can be censored. And the average peer tube instance is fucking shit show.
For whatever reason, every open source solution seems to be completely enable to meet even basic UI standards.
There desperately needs to be a way that users can meaningfully drive the development of open source projects the same way developers can contribute code.
And self hosting and hosting on federations aren't mutually exclusive.
The major stumbling block of any federated solution I've ever used is search. You cannot practically find anything this isn't right on your own instance.
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 No.498447

>>498445
You can go through the Palestine threads here (as well as, iirc, at least one of the Iran War threads) if you want to know more about his work. Podur is an extremely prolific analyst who has been documenting and discussing news about the resistance, war, and Palestine for years. He also writes articles about this stuff. He's extremely well known as far as independent media about this goes, and YouTube cracking down on him and stuff related to what he reports on so hard that he leaves the platform is its own phenomenon worthy of discussion. I think this might be the only time I've opened a thread about one of his videos, but tbh plenty of his past ones would be worthy of a thread.

>It's completely unreasonable to expect every individual to self host.
Hard disagree with this part of your reply to that anon.
Not even just on an individual basis - we have orgs, and the vast majority of those aren't offering this kind of services either. Whether or not it's apparently reasonable to expect, it's absolutely necessary, and both individuals and orgs have been fumbling the ball massively when it comes to offering alternative outlets to communicate information.
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 No.498449

>>498446
>>498447
Evidently you don't understand the bandwidth problems with hosting videos that get a large number of regular viewers. It's not the same as a short video posted on an image board that a small number of people click on sporadically. Youtube has an enormous monopoly advantage against upstart competitors because Google has intentionally ate the bandwidth costs and operated it at a loss for a long time. The problem with self-hosting videos is not hardware. The barrier to entry is paying for an enterprise-level internet service. That's why WebTorrent is such an important innovation of PeerTube.
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 No.498450

>>498449
>Evidently you don't understand the bandwidth problems with hosting videos that get a large number of regular viewers.
I would rather have an independent site where video uploads can get hundreds-to-a-few-thousand viewers than rely entirely on a site where the apparent larger viewership is liable to get completely erased without any alternative. And yes, individuals and organizations they belong to can and should be factoring this into consideration.
>The barrier to entry is paying for an enterprise-level internet service.
There are orgs that could do this, but don't.
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 No.498451

>>498449
No, you can easily get hosting for 30,000 views of a video for 7 bucks a month.
Multiple that by ten and you're approaching half a million views. For 700$ you're can host several million views. And if you're getting attracting an audience that big you can easily make it up by asking for donations or selling merch. Big Tech has conned so many people into thinking only they can host video at scale. That might have been true 20 years ago, but not today.

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