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 No.467069[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Realistically how do you reconcile lack of gun control in the school shooter era?
These kind of incidents can't go one forever without some kind of push back. Can gun rights preserved without having to live with school shootings?
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Bear in mind that if it comes to a civil war, that will be the end of any reconciliation between those selected to live and those selected to die. Those who survive the war on the latter side will never, ever trust the institutions, "revolutionary" or otherwise. They have no reason to ever believe any government, and no government will or can give assurances to restore any trust in institutions. The survivors of the damned will only be able to form their own institutions, if they are allowed, and they will continue to suffer under the pressure of the ruling institutions which are antagonistic towards them. Very likely the terms of "keeping the peace" will be a total segregation of those selected to die, and many selected to die becoming the reserve army of slavery. With the alternative being maximal torture and death in absolute terror, there is only slavery or suicide. Enough stubbornness will prevent suicide, and the maximal torture thing will be difficult without resuming the purge that was somehow miraculously defeated. So that will mean those who were truly defeated - us of the damned - will be allowed to live on the most meager terms possible. That is what we will be reduced to - arguing just how bad the coming slavery will be. There will be false promises of freedom and manumission, but that has always been a lie and will be doubly so after the struggle. They were never going to let us in their society.


Why didn't the Albanians have this many mass shootings?


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The Big Retard is right for once.


Cockshott released a video about the coming world crisis.

Highly recommended.
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>As to the video, Penisman seems to think that "financial vs productive" capital is divided between china and the west, which is not true. The west has its own productive capital, and china has its own financial, just look at the recent real estate bubble.
Marxists look at which part is dominant. In China productive capital is dominant, while in the west financial capital is dominant. That's what Cockshott says. The recent real estate bubble proves this point. The Chinese state is bailing out the customers who bought buildings and the construction companies, while financial capital took the L.

>His explanation as to why other countries agreed to sell their shit for dollars after the end of Breton Woods is also nonsensical

Explain why you think that.

>Bro they just need more money to accumulate more surplus and somehow only the US was able to provide this growing money supply

>even petrodollar recycling makes far more sense than this dogshit take
Not sure what this means


>In China productive capital is dominant, while in the west financial capital is dominant.
The only problem is that chinese "productive capital" invests its trade surplus back into the us financial markets lol

>Explain why you think that.

you literally quote my explanation below retard lol

>Not sure what this means

It means that the explanations of the kind "well according to M-C-M' to accumulate more surplus value you need a bigger money supply, and so third-world capitalists agreed to be ripped off by the US Treasury and the wall street because the US dollar was already a reserve currency!" are nonsense
Capitalists are not a hivemind, they don't care about abstract M-C-M' schemes, they care about their individual financial accounts.

Capitalists don't want to be ripped off. You need to explain why they couldn't use any other currency, or multiple currencies, to facilitate their accumulation cycle.


I'm not sure where to ask this.

When the world de-dollarizes, does that mean that the US in particular but also the west in general will start shift it's capital composition towards productive capital, and away from financial capital ?

My reasoning is that if western currencies become weaker, exporting manufactured goods and machine capital will become easier while exporting financial capital will become harder. De-dollarization also means that the US can't print infinite money for massively bloated military budgets and they could be looking to make up the loss of global influence from receding military power towards gaining soft-power from exporting goods and machine capital.

Does that logic add up ?



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whenever you see someone making a statement like
>hurr durr china has a financial sector just like the US
without quoting numbers, regulations, policy, or literally anything besides their word, don't waste your time, they are arguing in bad faith. the financial sector represented 20% of the american gdp (5.1 t. usd out of 25.4 t.), or ~2 times the gdp of the manufacturing sector in 2022 according to official estimates. the financial sector in china for the same period represented only around 7% of the chinese gdp (1.32 t. out of 18.3 t.) while the manufacturing sector represented around 40%
just ask for numbers and data and see how their arguments crumble away

>shift it's capital composition towards productive capital
capital isn't playdough. there won't be a shift: a large chunk of capital will just be destroyed if the dollar loses it's global currency status


quality answer

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It has recently come to light that fellow comrades have swallowed lies about the DPRK from the imperialist propaganda
Let this be a correction

<Founded on 9 September 1948, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) is a nation governing the northern half of the Korean peninsula. It has a population of around 25M and has an estimated total GDP of $40 billion. You will have likely heard about something else it has that being their “wild & crazy” leader named Kim Jong-Un. But just who is Kim Jong-Un and why has the Kim family stayed in power since the DPRK’s founding?

<To begin we must first look at the definition of a monarchy: “A monarchy is a form of government in which a person, the monarch, is head of state for life or until abdication. The political legitimacy and authority of the monarch may vary from restricted and largely symbolic (constitutional monarchy), to fully autocratic (absolute monarchy), and can expand across the domains of the executive, legislative, and judicial.”

The Korean Peninsula

<Breaking this down we will start with the term of a monarch. A life of power is not something that has ever been afforded to any leaders of the DPRK. The supreme leader of the DPRK, according to their constitution, is the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission, which is held currently by Kim Jong-Un. The Chairman is elected to a term the same as that of the Supreme People’s Assembly (SPA) which, according to their constitution, is five years. Therefore, straight away this debunks the claim of a monarchical regime within the DPRK, because a monarchy cannot exist with the institution of the SPA having control over the electoral process of choosing a Chairman. However, let us dig a little deeper just to be sure.

<The SPA is the primary state organ, which is directly elected by the DPRK’s populace. There are currently three different Parties represented within the SPA, and one organisation. During an election to the SPA: “A candidate is decided in a mass meeting led by the Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland, which also organises the political parties in the DPRK. Citizens run under these parties, or they can run as independents. They are chosen by the people, not by the ‘Party’.” This means that after these mass meetings, the candidate to be put o
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So are borders, money, and words - even "fake," here. What's it mean? It's gibberish. Just a bunch of chicken scratch imbued with arbitrary meaning, unless there's some reason to imbue it with meaning, some usefulness.


And so is your manhood


"fake" and "abstraction" are two different things and something being an abstraction doesn't inherently make it bad or not useful.


Comrade dk just reupped and is ready to enlighten us


Socialism can unironically be somewhat monarchic.

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How based would it potentially be if leftyfags somehow got the Tariq Nasheed to read Dugin and On Contradiction, and Frantz Fanon?

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Does anyone live in Chicago? It was a complete shithole in the 2000s. Filled with drunks and crackheads and such. I can only imagine it's gotten much worse. Here's how the cycle goes
>Bureacratic opportunists come into power
>City goes to shit
>Smart people move out
>Only literal 90eyeq retards are left in city
>They vote for grifting faggot leftoids
>City continues to go to shit
>Becomes Detroit
>Property value crashes
>Gentrifying whiteoids and real estate speculators move in
>Slight increase in police presence so that faggot homo furdaddies can buy Starbucks without stepping into literal human feces

At one point, Chicago and cities like it had tons of industrial jobs, which kept working people there. But, due to shifts in the economy, I imagine the only people who live there are either lumpenized and maldeveloped or part of the professional managerial/financial grift class. The latter can live in gated communities and vote Democrat to make themselves feel like 'decent human beings'(tm). The former are just braindead.

Basically a blueprint for how communities/societies die.
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have visited last year
here we go
>trashy neighborhoods, i mean lots of actual random trash
>social climate is that suspicion/distrust(extra burger toppings)
>Dogs wander the streets
>females usually are snobby cunts, also so many dykes
>residents are especially self centered
>chicano cringe pride
>globohomo condensed into a city
>cracked sidewalks, shitty roads
>streets are shit
>part of car culture is to ignore ambulances and not pull to the side
>excessive circle jerking among the labor aristocracy(its a union town)

anyway Mao Mao, Pol Pot, and Franny Franco were spot on about cities


>what is deindustrialization
>what is neoliberalism
<muh bureaucrats
<muh eye cue
Leftoids and cryptofash proving once again that they share the same quality of being historically illiterate


woot is dis


Don't you have coffee to pour?


probably busy having anal with a goat fish

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Visited leftypol accidentally thinking it was this site, whole place just looks like a Twitteroid hivemind but more "sophisticated". Why is leftypol such a shithole but this place seemingly rational?


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>lazy moderators
>semi-shit posts are realized to be semi-shit posts
>circle jerks get the acid treatment
thats all really


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troon-joon modocracy tyranny

no gods no masters



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<Why is China so incredibly based?

Virtually everything they do in practice makes the faggot western left seethe. How can we bring this energy to America and Europe? We need socialism that castrates faggot pedos, bullies trawnies to suicide, executes drug dealers, and sends fatties to the labor camps.

Are you a NEET? Minus 50 social credit points.
Masturbate too much? Sorry, no high speed internet for you.
Didn't visit you grandma? Shame on you, not report to the reeducation program.
Don't want to have kids? Why are you supporting invasive bourgeois ideology.

<Chinese socialism is the final solution to the western left(tm).
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I'd honestly not be surprised if it's some white dude trolling


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>worker when bad clothing


no worker wears a suit of their own volition, it's literally a slur for a boss, manager etc.

it's like worker wearing a tophat - ridiculous


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>multipolarity is not a political position - something you are for or against. It is an emerging state of reality in geopolitics and economics, characterized in part by the collapse of US hegemony.

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Here's the take from the Geopolitical Economy Report



about a 2/10 compared to based De Gaulle


>he's actually a Multipolarista
It adds up actually

<Pootin raises the retirement age and russian cucks swallow it.

<Macron tries to do the same as his fellow multipolarista but gets massive riots and strikes.
I think Macron should blitzkrieg Germany next because Alsace-Lorraine needs national self-determination.


and yes, I know that Alsace-Lorraine is part of modern day France..


Well, multi means more than one, so I guess a bipolar US-China Imperial redivision of the globe with new-era Tito-esque fence sitters is multipolar as well!

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Leading 'conservative' thinker, Michael Anton, warms up to socialism

>It has become increasingly common to hear those on what we may call the conventional right claim that the main threat facing the historic American nation and the American way of life is “socialism.” These warnings have grown with the rise of the so-called Great Reset, ostensibly a broad effort to reduce inequality, cool the planet (i.e., “address climate change”), and cure various social ills, all by decreasing alleged overconsumption. In other words, its mission is to persuade people, at least in the developed West, to accept lower standards of living in order to create a more just and equitable world. Since the conservative mind, not unreasonably, associates lower standards of living with socialism, many conservatives naturally intuit that the Great Reset must somehow be socialist.

>I believe this fear is at least partly misplaced and that the warnings it gives rise to, however well-meaning, are counterproductive because they deflect attention from the truer, greater threat: specifically, the cabal of bankers, techies, corporate executives, politicians, senior bureaucrats, academics, and pundits who coalesce around the World Economic Forum and seek to change, reduce, restrict, and homogenize the Western way of life—but only for ordinary people. Their own way of life, along with the wealth and power that define it, they seek to entrench, augment, deepen, and extend.

>This is why a strict or literal definition of socialism—public or government ownership and control of the means of production in order to equalize incomes and wealth across the population—is inapt to our situation. The Great Reset quietly but unmistakably redefines socialism to allow and even promote wealth and power concentration in certain hands. In the decisive sense, then, the West’s present economic system—really, its overarching regime—is the opposite of socialistic.

What follows is a fairly long and detailed summary of Marxism along with a comparison and contrast (mostly contrast) to today's system.

Interesting read
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I mean he’s not completely converted. He still has an obsession with the middle class


I love reading pieces like this by actual rightoids who can fucking READ because it's really an interesting insight into how at least the intellectual thought processes of the other side.
Something I see the same with this author, and rightoid figures like say Hitchens is that they sound reasonable for the most part, but then become completely fucking blinded by their dumb preconcieved notions and moral/romantic views of the Middle Class, Capitalism etc
It always boils down to "Capitalism is actually good, but bad faith actors like cosmopolitian international capitalists are bad because they're not nationalistic so don't have loyalty". This is ridiculous, the reality is Marx was always right he just saw through the romanticsed views and saw the cold reality of Capitalist realism. These aren't bad faith actors, they're the most viciously successful element of the Capitalist class who Capitalism rewards.
The Marxist view isn't that Capitalists are bad people, they're just agents of capital. How can Marxism view Capitalists as bad people when Engels himself was a Capitalist elite? Again the Rightoid mind can't seem to seperate systematic logic from moralism. They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
I definitely get the view that the most intellectual rightoids, seem to be massive romantics and moralfags and this leads them to having utterly childish, "splitting" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology) ) views when confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism.

Also "Waah if Socialism is correct, why did the USSR collapse" uhh because the USSR was ruled by shitheads and Radlibs? Because the Materialist development for a transition to Socialism has not yet been achieved? (Unlike what this article claims (can be chocked up to Engels overeagerness), Marx seemed to imply that Socialism was literally hundreds of years away)


>They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
This lacks basic common sense. Any successful communist party understood the personal quality of people of of paramount importance. I feel really bad for you if you can't distinguish between decent and shit people, and constantly fall back on, 'Well they're a prole so we're on the same side.' basically a prey mentality
>confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism
Let's ignore the cultish verbiage for a moment. The hallmark of scientific knowledge is the ability to manipulate and change that which is the object of study. By this very definition, considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.


A prole can be an asshole, but he still has the same class relations and values than I do. I don't have to like people to stick up for them. I understand that personality disorders like BPD and ASPD exist and they SHOULD be kept away from movements and from power. But those are the exceptions rather than the rule, a decent system should be able to root out these types anyway.
I know plenty of Business people, they're "good" people, they polite, kind, do a lot of community stuff, blah blah, this doesn't stop the role they play in the Capitalist system, they are class enemies and when the moment of truth arises, the reality is, these people will most likely side with the forces of reaction.

>considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.

Western Marxism basically doesn't exist outside of Cockshott and a few other fringe autists who are treated as "red brown strasserites" by Baizuo. This doesn't disprove Marxism, all it debunks is Western "Leftists" from adhering to Scientific Socialist methods. Quickest way to see if a Baizuo is a Leftist, ask him to do a Materialist reading of Gender and explain how can they accept Transwomen are Women?


relevant video (with dogshit audio)

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has anyone here lived in a socialist state i.e. Cuba, China, DPRK, Laos, Vietnam, Venezuela? What was your experience?
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it looks like she got gangbanged by the cookie monster and elmo


Even with the paint she's an 8


even with the paint she looks like a taint


Don't say things like that about her, she's very pretty.


white knights belong @org gtfo

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