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 No.485034[Reply]

Just 9-10 years ago Reddit was campaign central for Bernie Sanders. Now if you advocate for a left-wing presidential candidate they'll downvote you so much that Reddit's algorithm bans you from the platform.

And not just Reddit, Jill Stein and Cornel West have *terrible* net favorability polling (-16), in every single net favorability poll. The only candidate who ever had worse net favorability was Trump after J6.

I don't really buy the spoiler argument either, the left-wing candidates positions are very far from Harris. Sometimes Democrats will claim they are the last defenders of the American welfare state, but I can't see any of it left, public housing is only open in my area 2 hours per decade.
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 No.485145

>>485138
>>485140
The Uighur situation was like this:

Presumably the CIA or something similar tried to foment religious fundamentalism in the Xinjiang region in China. Most likely because that is the largest hub in the Belt and Road project. Which is a industrial development program the Chinese are building for economic soft-power influence. For the most part this is a mutually beneficial arrangement, the Chinese get influence and secure supply-lines while regions who partake see economic development and rising standards of living.

Basically the CIA (or whoever) tried to create "Asian ISIS" to disrupt rival economics. To some extend it worked because there were a lot of terror attacks in Xinjiang. The Chinese countered that by flooding the major city and industrial hub in that region with police and security overkill. That is very expensive and suffocating for the residents and to some degree this was a minor victory for the CIA-terror campaign because they managed to degrade socio-economic efficiency. But overall the Chinese won that round because the Belt and Road project was not disrupted.

This is not where this story ends, most of the people who got sucked up into "Asian ISIS" belonged to a group that is called Uighurs. And the Chinese began rounding up a lot of them and stuffed them into re-education camps. Basically a closed boarding-school for adults. These people obviously were deprived of their freedom, however making them go to skill training courses and accompanying educational lectures, isn't the same as Nazi extermination camps , which was the propagandist deception in the mainstream media. False claims of upto 2 million dead were made based on testimony of some guy called Adrien Zense (unsure about the spelling). That lie was too big. The mainstream media looked like massive bafoons for just making up a genocide where there was none. They shifted the narrative to "cultural genocide". The amount of eye-rolling that induced globally, caused so much friction-heat form billions of eyeballs rubbing against skull sockets that it probably contributed to climate-change.

Side-note: Adrien Zense was a total nut-job who also claimed to be on a holy mission to bring down the CCP. I'm still wondering what the Canadian Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485147

>>485145
>Basically the CIA (or whoever) tried to create "Asian ISIS" to disrupt rival economies.
Sounds like something Obama would do.

>However there are attacks on digital freedom in the west

If Elon hadn't bought Twitter there would be no major western platform to discuss the Palestinian situation without Zionist censorship.
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 No.485159

>>485147
>If Elon hadn't bought Twitter there would be no major western platform to discuss the Palestinian situation without Zionist censorship.
relevant vid from Glenn Greenwald
https://rumble.com/v5jurup-system-update-flashback-the-west-embraces-online-censorship.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
The thing is tho, if the censorship gang is siding with the Zionists, they're likely going to be considered complicit in the genocide. At least that's how it went historically with such cases. And then censorship will get politically burned and it goes back into the box for 50 years. The dynamic is not new.

To some extend it also depends on the outcome of the fighting. Israel can't win this, if they don't quit now and call it a draw, they're gonna get a crushing defeat, which would collapse the Zionist lobby. If they're the driving force behind the censorship, it'll go away with them.
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 No.485163

>>485136
They do if you actually engage in conversation on the site. Redditors are almost universally opposed to public housing, non-austerity fiscal budgeting, rent control, degrowth, decoupling of labor from survival, ending private land ownership, and healthy skepticism of corporate media
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 No.485167

>>485034
Maybe dats cuz your fucking uyghuruyghurs on the parliamental payroll have completely lost their fucking credibility by showing off th@ no good goy in the gubbmint can actually change shit 4 the part of soyciety they somehow represent? Fucking uyghur kys faggot uyghur uyghur uyghur uyghur uyghur.
Cocksucking fucks who you call your fellow humoids are doing the same shit they did back @ the outbreak of the 1st imperialist slaughterfest - cuck down to the gr8 [woe]man of the hour who can save the crumbling system right from the tv set, you just have 2 behave like a good goy & w8 until our grorious military will crush the subhumans from the neighbouring shithole & take their unjustly owned stuff. Let the bloodthirsty fucking cattle perish in billions, lest they will think th@ new hitler really did save them.

>>485145
>uyghurs? LE CIA-AAAAAAAACK
Th@ vietanon nutsoy faggot had something very different 2 say on this matter, specifically about mujahideen training camps built by ccp 4 their fight with ruzzoid red imperialism. Keep tearing your ass apart further, bottom.


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 No.485055[Reply]

Gaddafi - Green Book and Mao - Red book (Turkish edition)
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 No.485056

Which of these actually deals with socialism?
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 No.485063

>>485056
Neither
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 No.485068

>>485063
retard
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 No.485072

>>485068
Gaddafi was a racist islamist and Mao was an anti working class counterrevolutionary.


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 No.472619[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are the political implications of the world's first presidential mugshot? What will happen if he's convicted?
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 No.473259

>>473060
>Muh magatards
>I'm not psyoped, you're psyoped x 10
What a faggot
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 No.473261

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 No.473283

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 No.484994

He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power. Dems poll awful against almost every candidate except Trump.
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 No.485025

>>484994
>He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power.
Convict him of what? After 8 years of investigations and impeachments and lies and propaganda they ended up convicting him of putting a business expense in the wrong tax category. The only rational explanation at this point as to why the richest and most powerful people in the establishment hate him so much is precisely because he is so clean they have nothing to blackmail him with.


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 No.484627[Reply]

Iran is bombing Israel. what do you think? I stand iran.
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 No.484731

>>484726
>If I was the leader of Iran and the US assured me that I could retaliate and the US wouldn't attack me, it would have little bearing on what decision I made.
I think the previous case of a "choreographed theatrical retaliation" where the Iran negotiated the details and timetables of the attack with the US could have become a blue-print for defusing escalations. While in the end it did not work, it was definitely worth the attempt of turning war-fare in a spectacle without much real destruction. It's a shame the jedi-mind trick didn't work on the warmongers.

Iran now seems to be aiming for a strategy of degrading Israel's offensive capabilities. Like damaging air-bases. While they currently are on a wave cadence, I think they'll end up on a constant slow attrition strategy that puts pressure on Isreal's re-supply. The US and most of the western weapons industry is having difficulties of organizing timely production of those very complex weapons systems, because of the neo-liberally eroded industrial base. Slowly depleting the offensive potential also was the strategy of the Russians during the middle part of the Russian-Nato-proxy-war in Ukraine.
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 No.484734

>>484731
History does not repeat nor tolerate the present state Israel wishes to impose on it.

With what Iran is building up, I would not be surprised if they flatten Israel and rain hellfire, and US looks the other way.
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 No.484763

>>484734
I don't think Iran really intends to "flatten" Isreal. They're looking for deterrence primarily, and if they can't have that they'll attempt to destroy Isreal's capacity to attack other countries in the region, while preserving Isreal's viability as a state.

They do have the fire-power to obliterate Isreal, but that won't come into play unless Isreal tries to use nukes. Some of the ultra Zionist hardliners want to use nukes in Lebanon, not because it serves a military objective, but rather as an attempt to intimidate.

If that happens Iran would switch it's economy to a war-time command economy, begin underground nuclear weapons testing and start continuously hammering Israel with conventional weapons, this time with the aim of destroying Isreal's viability as a state. I.d.k. if the US pulls out and looks away, but it's definitely possible, it's not worth it for the US to throw down on behalf of Israel, not economically and especially not politically.

At the moment this scenario is not very likely, the US military probably would act resolutely to frustrate any use of nuclear weapons they haven't approved. The other factor, as Alexander Mercouris puts it: "Russia's long shadow descending upon the middle east", is changing the power equation in a major way.
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 No.484797

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<484627
>i support one militant anticommunist hellhole against the other militant anticommunist hellhole, in words
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 No.485011

>>484797
What's grosser than the turd was the way the foreskin was peeling outward over the glans.
Also, something tells me that turd was fake.


 No.483169[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>481432

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 39,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll, and excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

Reports in the Israeli press confirmed that the IDF implemented a 'mass Hannibal Directive' on October 7th, knowingly and purposefully killing many of its civilians and turning the Gaza border into an 'extermination zone' to prevent hostages from being taken alive.

The US Congress invited Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak. Tens of thousands demonstrated in DC, blockaded roads, and pulled mischief at the Watergate Hotel, but apparently failed to arrest Netanyahu for war crimes. Many were met with pepper spray and tear gas. At least 96 congress members boycotted the speech. Ahead of the visit, the Center for Constitutional Rights called for the DOJ to investigate Netanyahu for genocide, war crimes, and torture as required by US law. Simultaneous demonstrations occurred in other parts of the US and Canada.

A deal for a "national unity government" between the Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas was brokered in Beijing.

The International Court of Justice issued an advisory opinion on the legal status of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories, as requested in 2022. It found that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid, its occupation is illegal, and its activity in Gaza & the West Bank has continued to constitute a de facto occupation even after the IDF ostensibly withdrew in the '00s. It also confirmed that supporting Israeli apartheid and illegal occupation is illegal.

Yemeni Houthi attacks on shipping, in solidarity with Gaza, have continued, nearly shutting down the Israeli port of Eilat. A Yemeni drone struck a building near the US embassy branch office in Tel Aviv on July 19th. This was followed by direct Israeli airstrikes on the Yemeni port of Hodeidah.

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 No.484981

>>484978
<There were reportedly 15 people in the house, seven of them children, including the man’s mother, a lawful permanent resident of the United States.

<In an effort to rescue the survivors, the family contacted Israeli authorities, providing them with the residential address and GPS coordinates of their home to arrange for the safe passage of an ambulance. However, the Israeli military apparently used that information to bomb the house a second time and then targeted the ambulance as it attempted to rescue the survivors, killing the doctor and several children.

They bombed the house a second time to make sure nobody digs out a US passport out of the rubble, also spite.

The moral of the story is that if you give GPS coordinates to the Israeli and tell them a story about people in need, they will bomb those coordinates. That is a critical operational flaw in the Israeli military. Because it means that some random schmuck can direct where they drop bombs. That includes feeding them bogus targets to just make them waste ammo pounding inert rubble.

Blumenthal was right Zionism makes people stupid.

A sophisticated adversary that can coordinate complex operations might be able to manipulate them to bomb their own soldiers. If they pick a real fight with Iran …
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 No.484982

>>484980
You are correct in your historical analysis, but the experience of the last 20 years probably has eliminated the possibility of consent for another middle eastern war.
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 No.484988

>>484980
Yeah this.

>>484982
They're 100% about to try it and will go through with it within the next year provided they aren't stopped through direct action & mass organization. Propaganda can be very powerful, there will be a lot of people going war-mad over night. It actually will be ill-advised… like, most people still will not want war with Iran, but most people aren't in command of the US military. We're about to see some more really horrible shit going down.
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 No.484989

https://twitter.com/simpleesimi/status/1846107815900778924
Snipers on the roof at Israel vs. Italy game.
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 No.484997

New thread: >>484995


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 No.471056[Reply]

Isn't it funny that Cornel West runs third party but the best the mainstream parties can do is 2 rapists, a Guantanamo Bay torturer (so probably also a rapist), and a recovering dope fiend?
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 No.484970

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>>484965
>it's like voting for Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
Over Eugene Debs?
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 No.484971

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>>484965
>it's like voting for Teddy Roosevelt in 1912
The comparison is actually more on the nose than you probably realize. In the sense that Teddy's campaign in 1912 was another one of those celebrity campaigns relying entirely on the popularity and reknown of the candidate to generate excitement. Teddy's presidential run in 1912 was the closest anyone has ever gotten to breaking through the two-party system in the US. And what happened when he failed to win? His Progressive Party collapsed overnight. Eugene Debs's Socialist Party, on the other hand, thrived for about another decade as an organized grassroots party until they fractured in response to the Russian Revolution.

Cornel West is a celebrity candidate without even an organized party behind him, and much like Roosevelt, whatever "organization" he'll have built during his campaign is going to collapse the moment he loses.

Why would you support this kind of celebrity-oriented, in-the-moment electoralism when it has been a demonstrable failure over and over throughout US history?
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 No.484975

>>484970
I prefer Roosevelt to Debs.

>>484971
Because like Roosevelt or Debs he is a candidate who I feel is exceptional. I don't care if his organization won't continue to live on. Because even if it did live on after his loss I doubt it'd ever be able to break through the two party system.
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 No.484976

You know what would scare the shit out of the elites? If no one shows up to their "elections".
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 No.484977

>>484975
>I prefer Roosevelt to Debs.
So you're not a leftist.


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 No.484881[Reply]

He blow all gold bug, UBI, and debt hawk arguments to smithereens. Including those ones adopted by Milton Friedman loving "anarchists". Also why is the left so impotent in America that it took the founder of "III Capital Management" to do this for us?
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 No.484944

>>484941
>If you wanted to end monopolies, it would start with circumventing their actions.
As far as the cure for that high blood-sugar ailment is concerned, it already happened. The pharma monopolies couldn't prevent Chinese scientists from inventing this, so they got circumvented. I mean if it's half as good as the early results are suggesting, it'll get used by pretty much everyone who's afflicted no matter what the monopolists do.
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 No.484951

>>484894
UBI in a capitalist system will just make them raise prices to compensate. If they know they can exploit people harder then they will, like how they used COVID as an excuse to jack up prices.
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 No.484952

>>484951
That is true, but that could be counteracted by price controls. If there were enough people who depended on UBI, the politics would likely change and price-controls would happen to some extend.

I don't know if that development would be desirable, and my point is that there's always a counter tendency.
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 No.484959

>>484952
The idea people are natural entrepreneurs who love using money and starting small businesses just b because they are given free money is retarded.

The state forcing people to work is the only reason people are even using USD.
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 No.484960

>>484959
>The idea people are natural entrepreneurs who love using money
I guess you're not wrong. Monetary thinking definitely does not come natural to most people, it has to be drilled into people. The least unnatural form of accounting might be counting labor-time and material resources.

But i do think that there is something like an entrepreneurial spirit, but in a more general sense of trying to organize groups of people to build something. There is extreme ideological distortion going on of course. And in some sense, neo-liberal talk about entrepreneurs is double-speak, because what their system does is deeply demoralizing to what they have identified as the entrepreneurial subject.

>The state forcing people to work is the only reason people are even using USD.

The state and taxation plays a role by forcing everybody to use the same money, but MMT makes claims that go much further than that.

Marx makes three statements about money
1. it's the universal commodity
2. it's controle over labor-time
3. it's a veil that obfuscates the real social relations

Maybe we could simplify the differences between Marx and MMT thusly:
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 No.484519[Reply]

what is to be done about the masses of sheeple who always do whatever the empire tells them to do? how are we supposed to organize in solidarity with vaxies who support vax mandates? how am I supposed to deal with people who vote in support of genocidal zionist politicians like Harris, Trump, and Kennedy even though it's clear they are screwing their own voters regardless? what are we supposed to do about the brainwashed, bloodthirsty psychos who support the global 4th reich?
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 No.484573

Hypnotherapy is not a trivial thing. It is impossible to undo the damage by any re-education. There is only managing the livestock once it takes root. No "awakening" changes this once they internalize this many lies, in the way they were made to do so.
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 No.484574

That said, compliance is no longer an option, and all of the compliance with COVID was premised on fear and marking down the enemies of the "Jehad". It was inevitable after what you allowed to happen in the 1990s. The eugenists brag that you were operating the death camps and couldn't stop them. A Satanic race cannot change.
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 No.484586

Propaganda is a helluva drug, but good teaching and persuasion principles apply here. Use the Socratic Method, lean into evidence whenever possible, develop a habit of tactfully reminding people when their assertions haven't been supported enough to be arguments. When someone realizes that they can't support their own beliefs in a friendly, non-confrontational setting, that's when the conditioning starts to break down.
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 No.484590

Have you consodered tgat most sheeple are "truthseekers" like you and hence why theyre the easiest to dupe?

The game of mass deception is avhievable because of "alternative" media.
Most "alternative" media spreads the same biases as their respective mainstream counterparts.

In fact, alot of alternative news media are indirectly corporately owned.

Even if not, most "truthseekers" are unable to read further than pop culture cliches.
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 No.484919

>>484586
I've found more common ground with conservative and libertarians than the liberal types where I live. Libs will smugly and self-righteously support literal fascism and talking to them has been largely a waste of my time and a test of my patience.


 No.484817[Reply]

Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov speaking at the UN General Assembly just recently. Pretty good speech imo. What do you think?
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 No.484859

>>484839
cope
They lie a little like re-labeling war as a "special military operation" but they're right about the big picture stuff, like NATO-east-expansion being the trigger for the war in Ukraine.
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 No.484870

>>484859
His critiques of the west are generally the strongest points.
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 No.484880

>>484839
This is how Democrats unironically think.
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 No.484890

>some cuck is getting paid 0.01 cents for making threads like this
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 No.484908

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>>484890
>thinking I get paid to post news to leftychan


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 No.483702[Reply]

theory background, skip if you wish
In the cold war the Soviets had a closed media ecosystem with state censors etc. The materialist reason for that is, that their media production could neither match the quantity of output nor the level of technical sophistication of western media production.

The functional aspect of Soviet censorship was doing protectionism. The repression of expression-freedom of soviet citizens was not functional, it likely hampered the development of the means of media production. It likely worked only because the boost from protectionism more than off-set the drag from repression of expression.

This is what most ideological analysis got wrong. What matters is the structures that transport the information and the type of social relations that create the interaction with people. The specifics of the information never mattered.

In feudalism the information structure was the church. The specifics of religious faith, didn't really matter for the functioning of feudalism. The change from feudalism to capitalism changed information from a indoctrinated believe, into a object that is consumed.

We lack any concept of what the socialist information structure could be like. We haven't really thought beyond changing the information content. When the printing presses automated writing, capitalists printed information on paper squares arranged as either news-papers or as books. Socialists only ever did the exact same paper-squares with different words on it. Same thing for every subsequent media technology. That's why socialists have always been on the back-foot. It's like if the bourgeoisie had tried to edit the ten commandments in the bible. Instead of replacing the church with modern media.

Now for the juicy bit
The west is ramping up attempts at censorship. Ranging from deleting content up to attacking the people that make it, as well as attacking capitalists that own means of dissemination. The West has/had a relatively open media ecosystem as well as very high production media quality, and that is the combined reason why it's media structures have absolutely dominated the world.

For unclear reasons they're now trying to throw out the winning strategy and close off the western media eco-system. If it succeeds the global audience would get alienated out of it, and then western media power will shrink from influencing ~4 billion to maybe a few hundrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.484825

>>484824
thanks for the reverse psychology approval
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 No.484828

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The company you keep…
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 No.484830

>>484828
Is she doing this on purpose ?

As in is she playing the evil censorship-witch to make people hate her, because negative attention is better than no attention ?
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 No.484851

>>484830
Probably.
But everyone complains about censorship but then will advocate for censorship against platforms they don't like

Ogre is praising Turkey for passing a ban for fbi.gov
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 No.484852

>>484851
>Ogre is praising Turkey for passing a ban for fbi.gov
Wait a minute Ogre is still up ?
I just went there to check and it just redirected me to leftypol TV
What gives ?

Why is Turkey banning discuck ?
I mean it's got terrible privacy and there's better alternatives, but it seems unreasonable to ban it.

I'm guessing they're anxious about the people who own/controle discuck ? Why aren't they shilling for an open-source alternative where they can run their own servers. Or they could go one step further and hire software-people to fork one of those FOSS alternatives and call it Turk-cord. They could add lots of specific features the Turkish people really like. They could make all Turkish governmental organizations sign up for it and incentivize Turkish companies to do too, to boost network effects.

What ever happened to using intelligence to win people over. I think we need to redesign the internet so that it's not vulnerable to the inquisition that tries to excommunicate everybody they don't like, So that people who build cool stuff are those that win.


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