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 No.459737[Reply]

CPUSA outreach media looks like a zoom call between people languishing away in an assisted living facility
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 No.459772

>>459760
i also joined an org, but i haven't heard anything back even though they said they'd call.
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 No.459773

>>459772
The leaders of modern American orgs are incredibly lazy some times. Maybe they just feel defeated? Idfk.
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 No.459785

>>459773
>Maybe they just feel defeated?
Not maybe, definitely.
The truth is that most of the left is defeated. The few serious communists (and anarchists) remaining simply possess and use the minimum critical faculties necessary to be aware of this fact, though they may not communicate it directly.
All the other leftists are still in denial, hence their tendency to masturbate to right-wing social democrats and go deep into identity "politics".
The left has no coherent strategy.
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 No.459792

>>459785
Inb4 "wow that's so doomer anon "
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 No.460361

>>459785
Honestly preferable to most of the rest of the left because I don't think they're actually trying to bullshit me in a country where pretty much everyone else is running some kinda scam. You might think they're wrong but I don't think there's any divide between what they say on those streams and what they actually believe. Whatever you think about them, they're very consistent. And that is why they're an enormous failure!

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 No.460283[Reply]

Am I the only one who never found the magacommunism meme funny? There are still people trying to push it here or something, and it just bores me.
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 No.460331

Honestly I would rather live under fucking neo-liberalism than haz-oid magacommunism. If magacommunism tries to corrupt a revolution into a counter-revolution I will just starting killing every magashit with my Glock.
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 No.460342

>>460331
> I would rather live under fucking neo-liberalism
Ya, because you're a liberal.
Back to disc0rd!
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 No.460347

>>460331
Should we really be surprised that those upholding the dominant ideology of our era oppose MAGACommunism so vehemently.
I feel like we're being raiding by reddit
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 No.460348

>>460342
>>460347
Shut the fuck up hazoids, report these fags.
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 No.460353

>>460348
Awww, what wrong. Did you get dismissed again by Pasquale? Try doing hand strengthening exercises and make sure to use plenty of lotion

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 No.460250[Reply]

The logic of accumulation lies in the growing concentration and centralization of control over capital. Formal ownership can be spread out (as in the “owners” of shares in pension plans), whereas the management of this property is controlled by financial capital.

We have reached a level of centralization in capital’s power of domination, such that the bourgeoisie’s forms of existence and organization as known up to now have been completely transformed. The bourgeoisie was initially formed from stable bourgeois families. From one generation to the next, the heirs carried on the specialized activities of their companies. The bourgeoisie was built and built itself over the long run. This stability encouraged confidence in “bourgeois values” and promoted their influence throughout the entire society. To a large extent, the bourgeoisie as dominant class was accepted as such. Its access to the privileges of comfort and wealth seemed deserved in return for the services they rendered. It also seemed mainly national in orientation, sensitive to national interests, whatever the ambiguities and limitations of this manipulated concept might have been. The new ruling class abruptly breaks with this tradition. Some describe the transformation in question as the development of active shareholders (sometimes even characterized as populist shareholders) fully reestablishing property rights. This laudatory and misleading characterization legitimizes the change and fails to recognize that the major aspect of the transformation involves the degree of concentration in control of capital and the accompanying centralization of power. The new ruling class is no longer counted in the tens of thousands or even millions, as was the case with the older bourgeoisie. Moreover, a large proportion of the new bourgeoisie is made up of newcomers who emerged more by the success of their financial operations (particularly in the stock market) than by their contribution to the technological breakthroughs of our era. Their ultrarapid rise is in stark contrast with their predecessors, whose rise took place over numerous decades.

The centralization of power, even more marked than the concentration of capital, reinforces the interpenetration of economic and political power. The “traditional” ideology of capitalism placed the emphasis on the virtues of property in general, particularly small property—in reality medium or medium-large property—considered to purvey technological anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.460261

>>460250
>The logic of accumulation lies in the growing concentration and centralization of control over capital. Formal ownership can be spread out (as in the “owners” of shares in pension plans), whereas the management of this property is controlled by financial capital.
Absolutely nothing about this is new. This shit was as true in the seventeenth century as it is now.
>The bourgeoisie was initially formed from stable bourgeois families.
Lel, no it fucking wasn't. It was formed of the bastards, the second sons, and the adventurers who plundered the New World. They were the least stable group imaginable.
>To a large extent, the bourgeoisie as dominant class was accepted as such.
The fuck? It wasn't even accepted as such after the French Revolution. It wasn't recognized until after the turn of the Twentieth Century. Even Marx called it the "middle class." Who is the idiot who wrote this flagrant ahistorical bullshit?
>Samir Amin
Of course.
>Its access to the privileges of comfort and wealth seemed deserved in return for the services they rendered.
…to absolutely nobody. The aristocrats considered them to be savages and upstarts. Workers considered them to be little different from bandits (hence the term "robber barons"), and the peasantry thought of them as puffed up nobodies. It's like this idiot never read anything written in the ninteenth century.
>The new ruling class is no longer counted in the tens of thousands or even millions, as was the case with the older bourgeoisie.
Gee, it's almost as if the petit-bourgeoisie is dying out for some reason, like something is causing their rate of profit to fall globally.
>The English term crony capitalism should not be reserved only for the “underdeveloped and corrupt” forms of Southeast Asia and Latin America that the “economists” (the sincere and convinced believers in the virtues of liberalism) denounced earlier.
The term is reserved for use by fools who refuse to recognise that it's just how capitalism works. It has worked that way since the Dutch East India Company was founded, and even folks in the seventeenth century recognized it.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.460298

>>460261
>This shit was as true in the seventeenth century as it is now.
In the classical stage of capital, capitalists were more define by the ownership of physical capital (factories) which hadn't been massively divested through common stock ownership. Sorry, but people having pension plans tied directly to stock private stock ownership wasn't really a thing until recently, at least not on a mass scale. Similarly, while there has always been financiers, they didn't former unto themselves a distinct ruling class (i.e., the Rothschilds weren't treating the Fords or the Rockefellers like middle managers). The point Amin is making relates to the complete dominance of finance capital
>Lel, no it fucking wasn't. It was formed of the bastards, the second sons, and the adventurers who plundered the New World. They were the least stable group imaginable.
Lol, Pizzaro didn't go on to start a factory. Capitalist isn't synonymous with 'bad guy'
>The fuck? It wasn't even accepted as such after the French Revolution. It wasn't recognized until after the turn of the Twentieth Century. Even Marx called it the "middle class." Who is the idiot who wrote this flagrant ahistorical bullshit?
It would help if you read things in context instead of using the splitting hairs of sound bites approach
<This stability encouraged confidence in “bourgeois values” and promoted their influence throughout the entire society. To a large extent, the bourgeoisie as dominant class was accepted as such. Its access to the privileges of comfort and wealth seemed deserved in return for the services they rendered. It also seemed mainly national in orientation, sensitive to national interests, whatever the ambiguities and limitations of this manipulated concept might have been.
I could be wrong, but he seems to be implying that the 'old bourgeoisie' was tied directly to productive capital which actually made things of practical use to the nation, not disembodied hegemonic capital tied mainly to banking and financial services
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 No.459555[Reply]

>China’s bespectacled, studious ideology tsar Wang Huning could rise further after the Communist Party’s five-yearly leadership reshuffle, sources say.
With party chief Xi Jinping set to shake up the top team for his unprecedented third term, Wang, the soft-speaking former academic, is tipped to stay and transition to the new leadership.
>This would make him a rare veteran in Xi’s new core team as the president brings in fresh blood for his rule for the next five years and beyond.
>Wang, the fifth-ranking party official and the first secretary of the secretariat responsible for the day-to-day operation of party affairs, is now tipped to head the National People’s Congress (NPC), China’s legislature.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3196399/chinas-ideology-tsar-wang-huning-tipped-head-national-peoples-congress
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 No.459789

>>459658
>Prescient
Sure the bourgeoisie wants to manifest and extend their classrule through technology.
But it's not going to work, The US is a declining power and this form of abuse is part of the cause that makes it decline. It's a dead end social configuration. It's a Superstructure that is destroying the base it's build upon.
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 No.459791

>>459789
Yes comrade, capitalism hasn't changed at all since 1917
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 No.460051

>>459786
an idiot by default only praised by other idiots. just like this guy
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 No.460277

>>459613
Geezers are not the building blocks of a successful nation-state.
Ideally the core of your political leadership would be in their 40s-50s, with some older and younger individuals attached. Older than that and they're going to be too isolated from modernity to be effective.
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 No.460279

>>459786
He's first in line at the trash can.

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 No.459813[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

It's been an open secret that China games it GDP numbers with over valued Real Estate projects so it seems plausible to me.
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 No.460217

>>460214
>The point was that commercial aircraft have not been following military aviation's lead since before anyone here was born.
Yes agreed, why did you say commercial airliners are derivative of long range bombers then?
>Ah, the DeHavilland Comet
That happened in the 50's and DeHavilland is defunt.
>But don't forget the DC-10 crashes that cost it the competition with the 747.
I concede this point. I think it's important to remember the McDonald Douglas is no longer an airline maker though.
>Also remember the Tu-104
Production was stopped in 1960 because of it's horrid reputation. If anything it's a perfect case study of communist hubris with regards to the airline industry.
>No, they change their names and come right back the way that ValuJet/AirTran did.
Those are not airline makers.
>That doesn't count for shit. Every country has engineers, and every country has books. What matters is financial viability.
No, and this is the downfall of everyone that fucks around in the commercial airliner. You cannot buy a good safety record. You cannot buy your way into this market.
>That stuff is worthless to commercial aviation. What matters in commercial aviation is fuel efficiency.
It's not if it's as efficient, which it theoretically is. Regardless it's just one example.
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 No.460221

>>460212
>>460213
I think that this has nothing to do with chips as a strategic commodity, China already has advanced chip manufacturing capacities at home. Their domestic microchip production is just one process-node behind the most advanced fabs in the world.
I think this is about balancing financial leverage, because the German industry is trying to get a "energy bail out" by relocating energy intense production steps to china.
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 No.460222

>>460221
>China already has advanced chip manufacturing capacities at home.
Taiwan is not part of China.
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 No.460224

>>460222
There is a factory in mainland China that makes 7nm Chips that belongs to SMIC.

Unrelated to microchips, Taiwan is part of China. Most of the world (including the US) officially recognizes the one China policy that makes Taiwan an autonomous province of China (only 13 countries out of 195 don't recognize it).

The US is trying to get Taiwan to secede from China, but that will fail, because China can enforce a naval blockade against Taiwan and force them to redirect their entire international trade through ports in mainland China. The US NAVY is not strong enough to compete against the Chinese NAVY in the south China sea and the parts of the pacific Ocean around China and will not be able to break the blockade. If the US manages to get regime change in Taiwan, that will cause a split in Taiwan where parts of the Taiwanese government and military will side with mainland China. The US side of the split will get cut off from US supplies and will be destroyed in a war of attrition. Taiwan will loose it's political, economic and military autonomy and become a regular Chinese province.
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 No.460232

>>460217
>Yes agreed, why did you say commercial airliners are derivative of long range bombers then?
I didn't. What I said was:
<Maybe back when stewardesses wore miniskirts, and fliers all received complementary meals and scotch.
>I think it's important to remember the McDonald Douglas is no longer an airline maker though.
The 737 crushing the DC-9 (despite passenger preference for the latter) had a lot more to do with that than McDonnell-Douglas' safety record, although the DC-10's incidents didn't help. The MD-11 losing out to the 777 and the A340 finally killed it.
>Production was stopped in 1960 because of it's horrid reputation.
Aeroflot flew the Tu-104 until 1979. They only began replacing it when the Tu-134 and the Il-62 were in full production.
>All wrong, the science and engineering are established, all that is stopping wider adoption is the reluctance of market leaders to seriously invest in industrializing it.
No, I am entirely correct, and you are completely wrong. Airliners don't need a bunch of theoretical bullshit. They need to be lighter, more eceonomical, and a cheap, viable alternative to the aging fleets that low-cost carriers are currently flying. These are commodities that need to be sold. That is absolutely all the matters. Even in the Concord's hayday, supersonic aircraft were barely economically viable, and they only ever served a tiny niche of business travelers who were crossing the Atlantic (where else would it be alright to drop sonic booms?).
>It is growing, just not very much.
Slow growth is a slow death for capital.
>That Boeing is more than capable of building a brand new replacement for the Max.
Top kek! Boeing has been trying to pull off a replacement for the 737 since before they settled on just stretching it out into the 700, 800, and 900 series. Furthermore, Boeing hasn't been able to produce jack shit of any value since it tried to break the engineers' union in Everett by fully outsourcing the 787.
>You seem to think the Max is indicative so some kind of declining engineering prowess, it's not.
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 No.460162[Reply]

So Prigozhin get out from prison in 1990 and start "selling hot dogs". Now he and his guys are among the most powerful people in Russia.
Remember also that rumor about Putin.
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 No.460166

A thread died for this.

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 No.434103[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>Tucker Carlson trip to Hungary to promote its populist leader took an awkward turn when a transcript of his interview was censored by the Hungarian government.

>Carlson spent the week filming his Fox News show from Budapest, where he interviewed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, toured a border fence built to keep out migrants, and spoke at an event funded by the Orban government.

>The Fox News host also touted Hungary, under Orban’s illiberal rule, as a “freer” place than the United States.

>Carlson’s characterization of Hungary and its ruler was put to the test on Friday when all mention of Chinese leader Xi Jinping was scrubbed from a transcript of the Carlson-Orban interview that was sent to reporters.

>During the interview, Carlson lamented to Orban that U.S. President Joe Biden has never referred to Xi as a “totalitarian thug” despite the fact that he has “murdered many of his political opponents.”

>New York Times reporter Benjamin Novak noticed that Carlson’s criticism of Xi was cut from a transcript sent to reporters by Hungarian officials.

>Politico Europe’s Playbook newsletter reported that after Novak’s tweet, officials sent out a full transcript of the interview.

>Orban has pushed Hungary towards closer ties with China, seeking out loans from Beijing for projects including a railway to Belgrade and a campus of a Shanghai university in Budapest. In recent months, Hungary twice blocked an EU statement condemning China’s crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong.
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 No.444064

Lmao good
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 No.444091

>>438434
Dengists and "Anti Imperialists" still believe, that a chinese rule will make the world a better place
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 No.444097

>>438515
Then why are you such a cuck for chinese socialism? It doesn't even benefit you, you just admitted it.
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 No.460089

>>434112
carlson is an intel operative, do you think he was being silly trying to disrupt china-magyar relations?
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 No.460090

>>438807
imagine readong nagle and zizek and calling it "reading"

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 No.460050[Reply]

I just discovered this guys, isn't it true?

btw This is my greatest theoretical advance,
rate it
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 No.460066

>political compass

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 No.459906[Reply]

in a stunning turn of events lula has returned from his stent in jail and won the election. What's your thoughts chads? I think Bolsanaro is going to go the same route trump did except we could potentially see an actual coup because, you know, it's fucking Brazil

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lula-narrowly-wins-brazils-high-stakes-election-ending-bolsonaro-e2-80-99s-far-right-presidency/ar-AA13y6iE

At any rate, cheers to the Brazil fags.
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 No.459997

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>>459996
Liberal corporatism.
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 No.459999

>>459986
What's it like to echo Hillary Clinton?

Like, when you talk, do you use the same shrill voice?
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 No.460041

>>459996
I know counting is hard but please your mom needs you out of her basement as soon as possible.
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 No.460042

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>>459999
Nice digits, but, just because some one you don't like says something doesn't make it untrue. Try using your head for once.
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 No.460046

>>460042
You're with her. We get it

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 No.459935[Reply]

John Fetterman is cool because he's the cognitive deficiency candidate. Mr. Oz has smarts, but he only knows how to use them for evil. He made his bones terrorizing the brains of innocent old insane dementia people, scamming them with fraudulent weight loss products. Fetterman may be dumb but he knows how to stack bricks and smear mortar on the bricks for 16 hours a day in the hot Pennsylvanian sun. That is a deed Mr. Oz has never known once in his privileged life.
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 No.459942

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 No.459944

>>459942
He was lucky to have rich Boomer parents. My generation will never know the pleasure of having family money, that is unless Fetterman is elected.
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 No.459945

>>459944
I bet if you cry harder, the problem will solve itself
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 No.459947

>>459944
>Dynastic wealth will save us
Please fuck off back to leftypol.fag
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 No.459960

If fetterman wins it will be sublime justice

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