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 No.453832[Reply]

I'm really enjoying all of the videogame journalists pissing and shidding themselves over the gold rush game publishers are in over NFTs.

Practically every major publisher is promising to integrate NFTs into games and some like Sega, are already selling them now.

One legitimate criticism of NFTs are their environmental impact. But every media talking head that brings this up never spoke out against the Iraq War that irradiated entire cities with depleted uranium munitions, or the Pentagon, who is the number single emitter of greenhouse gases.

So I'm with the crypto bros on this one say this is sour grapes on people that missed out on the ground floor of this get-rich-quick scheme.

I also see this as anger from the burger settler class who are now really getting priced out of the middle class lifestyle in earnest to the point where their steady diet of new videogames may soon be out of their reach. As someone who grew up poor and was always priced out of these type of consumerist leisure goods I relish their anguish.

Another example of this is when Settlers (read white people) shidded themselves over Disney's new $2000 a night Stars Wars themed hotel. As they rightfully saw this as a new trend in Disneyland Theme Parks where they will soon only cater to the 1%. I never got to go to Disneyland when I was young and was told by these same Settlers that I shouldn't be upset because I can live without it. Ironically, it's them who will now live without it while I can actually still afford to go.

And game journalists are particularly hypocritical because we've seen none scarce digital goods sold for 20+ years now, first with iTunes, and then with Amazon with books, and later Steam with games. No one every questioned the environmental impact of these systems.

Overall I think NFTs will be a net good for the proletariat, it will provide a second hand market of digital goods that proles have already spent billions on, and put a lot of equity in their pocket.
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 No.478314

>>454455
>Anyway, RPGs are timewaster games for shut-ins and losers. Hiroshi Yamauchi was right to call them so when berating people who didn't like the lack of RPGs on N64. They're really games for children / tweens, not grown-ass people.
"grown-ass people" are fucking SLAVES, retard.

Imagine not being a fucking shut-in if you get the opportunity.

I want other people to be at the distance of an internet connection - that's the only way they can be tolerable.
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 No.478315

>>478314
Iromy is, adults waste their free rime on TV.

Yet they still berate kids for playing vieo games.

Also, kids are slaves too.
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 No.478352

>>478311
>munee kums frum sumware
das rite butt runnin a website's mightee cheap 4 most normhoes at small skalz.
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 No.478356

>>478352
Opsec 100
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 No.478359

>>478358
don't do identity-politics baiting


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 No.467032[Reply]

Prologue
Noam Chomsky has a principle that he will only criticize his government (the US government in his case). His reason is guarding against co-optation, he doesn't want the chorus of reactionary intellectuals that manufacture consent for the powers that be, to be able to use anything that he writes or says for their sinister purposes. I think the Chomsky principle is largely correct but it's too strict, i think that you can criticize other governments as long as they aren't on the official LE-BIG-BAD list. So based on that you can criticize countries like Saudi Arabia or Israel, but for example Russia, China, and the DPRK can't be criticized, because they are the ""axis of evil"" in the mainstream narrative. I'm following this weaker Chomsky principle because i don't want to say anything that might be appropriated for an argument that supports a new cold-war or worse. Keep that in mind when you read this.

Main topic
I'm trying to get a materialist view of liberties. Usually people consider liberties to be timeless conditionaless absolutes. In some places of the world owning a gun is considered a liberty. In order to have that liberty you do need a government that doesn't try to disarm it's population, but far more importantly you need to have invented sophisticated metallurgy and gunpowder. So in conclusion liberties are conditional to development, in this case technical development. Tho not all conditions for liberties must be of a technical nature.

Many people are criticizing China for lacking certain personal liberties, and a big chunk of that is made up horror stories that never happened, but not all of it is wrong. For example China lacks technology privacy.

A considerable section of the Chinese population is not plugged into the techno-social information infrastructure. Since China has only beaten absolute poverty but not yet uneven development. That means if china were to move ahead and improve the tech-rights for Chinese citizens at this point in time they would benefit only the wealthier sections of society that can afford all the information services. That section of society could potentially seek to pull up the ladder behind them selves and prevent the rest of society from gaining access to beneficial information services.

So I will speculate that once China has leveled the uneven development, it will become politically viable for China to advance tech-rights. Politically viable in this context mePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.468173

>>468170
>Well there is a point in not using that propaganda terminology. If only to communicate that you aren't towing the ideological line that seeks to demonize China in order to make war. Also language is an ideological battlefield why would you seed any ground to the warmongers ?
So basically virtue signaling?
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 No.468175

>>468173
What ?
no, it's not a virtue, there's nothing virtuous about this, it's an ideological position.
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 No.478287

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 No.478299

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Your life was never yours to enjoy.
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 No.478309

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>>478299
fatalism is useless.
if your life isn't yours, claw it back from who ever took it.


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 No.472952[Reply]

No wander leftypol spazzes out at the mention of him

>PROVING LEFTISM IS A RIGHT-WING IDEOLOGY.


>On the face of it, it seems completely contradictory to call leftism right-wing. The midwits responding to this will definitely try and remind you of that.


>But at some point in the course of Western history, people forgot about the actual historical tradition of left-wing politics entirely, confusing it for a newer ideology: Leftism.


>The key distinction lies in the 'ism' part of Leftism. In contrast to left-wing politics, leftism is itself an ideology rather than a political position. Jacobinism, Sandinismo, Mao Zedong Thought, etc. for example, can be called ideologies, which are left-wing in political content.


>Leftism, by contrast, is only left-wing in form. In content, it is actually right-wing. And this can be proven easily.


>Instead of referring to any actual concrete left-wing politics, leftism should be understood as a comprehension of the historical left taken in a purely abstract way - a meta-narrative of left-wing politics, if you will.


>This is what makes it outside the actual left-wing: In order to turn left-wing politics into a total IDEAL, you need a necessary conceptual distance from it which is only possible if you are, in fact, a right-winger.

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 No.473061

>Blacks and Fags not STFU about racism and homophobia are why conservatives vote Trump.
There I saved you 30 mins
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 No.473062

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>They (the left) were taking all of the right's slander, mis-characterization, and demonization of the international left at face value and started identifying with it openly.
Holy shit no, the left did not turn into the histrionic strawman the right painted them as. This is something some old neoliberal fossil on Prager U would say
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 No.473064

>>473061
>>473062
>Liberals have entered the chat
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 No.473075

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>>473062
Ya, it was all PragerU who spun this idea out of nothing.
[spoiler]Clown[/spoiler]
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 No.478288

>>473061
irony is alot of ethnic and sexual minorities are Trump sympathisers.


 No.477302[Reply]

I couldn't think of anything specific to say, and I just wanted to share this fantastic recent exchange between Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson on the subject of China's imploding housing bubble and recent global political economy. Enjoy, anons.

https://inv.vern.cc/watch?v=uS4ewq1R9ps
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 No.478040

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>>478039
If you work for money then it can be called a job. This is also why people convert their cash into virtual money to live virtual lives, like habbo. My concept is holistic and scientific. If not, then what is "money" to you?
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 No.478107

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>>478005
>It's not a natural limit, like the Earth said "no more precious metal, guess nature says you can't do money any more!"
Obviously there is a limit to how much actual gold exists inside the earth. What makes it a good currency is that a politician cannot decide we need another 20 year war in the middle east and magic the gold out of thin air. Actual work and energy needs to be expended to increase the money supply.

>And always have. The reason for selecting precious metals in the first place was because ordinary people couldn't acquire them.

Even 60 years ago government coins contained real silver. Sorry I don't have time for the rest of your post if it's just more of this.

>>478008
>cough
At least defend your original argument instead of jumping to a new topic.

>https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/fungibility-graveyard/

>tldr you can trace some individual sats back to shady transactions.
And you can trace basically all dollars back to illegal activity so what's your point.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cocaine-contaminates-majority-of-american-currency/
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 No.478109

>>478107
>And you can trace basically all dollars back to illegal activity so what's your point.
This is not about traceability, at least not directly. Some BTCs have become tainted and can no longuer be exchanged , that doesn't happen with other currencies

>Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone.

<It's a monopoly if you are forced to buy it, technically you are not forced to buy anything, and therefore monopolies can't exist.
That's a retarded definition.
Marxists define a monopoly by the ability to set prices above market exchange value and collect monopoly-rent. (more explanation at the bottom of the post)
That's clearly the case for apple.

>You guys really are just entitled

<Apple is entitled to it's monopolies, you're not entitle to a free market
I know this is facetious, but you asked for it.
Anyway what Apple gets away with, is what all the other smartphone producers will try to copy, so everybody who isn't a I-zealot still is affected.

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 No.478121

>>478107
You're not getting it. Money as a concept is not intrinsically worth anything. It exists because states issued coinage, not because people decided for no apparent reason gold or silver ingots were now valuable. Most people have no reason to view anything as intrinsically valuable, or that there is intrinsically a society at all to trade with, let alone a society that would honor the value of anything its members claim. The money could be anything. It was never intrinsically valuable by any law of nature. Money was valuable because there were particular people who decided it would be, whether because it was dictated by them or because there were people who colluded to introduce a new concept of value or how people are to interact with each other. The only laws of nature are that there are human beings who like living - it says nothing about a preferred standard for economic exchange. All of this is just a way to make people do things they really don't want to do, and so money is worthless without armed men to enforce debts. Money and debt regimes have failed in the past, because the things that are really coveted are human labor and technology, and the uses of those things are not freely exchangeable by any natural and self-evident law.
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 No.478122

The point isn't that people don't have bits of gold or silver, but that the mines to provide them could be controlled with far less effort than it would take to lock down all of the farms, all of the trade roads, and monopolize them. The drive to monopolize anything is not something rulers "have" to do, but choose to do.


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 No.477215[Reply]

The liberals have a universal discourse around protecting the minorities.

However pretty much everybody agrees to ruthlessly suppress serial killers, violent psychopaths, human trafficking rings, and so on.
But all of these are minorities. When the majority of the population suppresses the ruling class minority that's just called democracy.

You don't need to know sophisticated marxist theory to grasp how conceptually broken this is. Why did the liberals turn minorities into a political universal ?
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 No.477278

>>477272
When you speak of "minority rights" you are implicitly upholding a German conceit of culture war and friend-enemy distinctions that divide a society from within, and that to be a minority intrinsically means being "enemy". All of the laws in the US regarding minorities are not intended to mark minorities as "other" - every minority is under American law, and all of the laws pertaining to the status of minorities exist in principle for historical purposes, the big one being slavery. Outside of the US, this line of argument doesn't have any meaning, because it was specifically an attack on the concept of equal protection and the imposition of a German idea of what a nation "ought" to be. We're not as stupid as the theory requires us to be.

There is no concept of a "favored minority" or a minority with "special rights". The concept of a protected class exists because there was a reason for them to be protected. That's where "intersectionality" was a pernicious legal doctrine, because it confused the historical reasoning for protected classes… though in principle, any judge that would have looked at an unfair firing of, using the example, of a black woman, would not need to rely on a special class called "black woman", and the intersectional idea suggested that there were particular biases against black people and women which worked in concert, rather than an "oppression axis" where you scored points to rate how oppressed a group was. That narrative was purely a conservative and Germanic conceit of race-science and some eugenics garbage… which the liberals liked, so they codified it as policy. Such a policy would be flagrantly illegal and contrary to both the law and any purpose that we would consider good, and great pains are taken to act like the abusive policy either doesn't exist, or isn't what it actually is. And the point of the policy wasn't to protect anyone, but to make a mockery of any protection and convert it into a property claim of the institutions - that is, the very entities that are unfairly firing employees and hiring their buddies for nepotistic bullshit reasons, which is why you have affirmative action laws in the first place. If hiring were fair and equal then the concept of unfair firing and hiring wouldn't get far. Really though, the problem is that institutions are not designed on the premise of fairness. TPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.477279

But to make it clearer, if you go to the minorities in America, the things they hate about America aren't that their culture isn't given approval or respect, but that stupid white people - and this is a vocal group of white people and some tag-alongs who want to be Uncle Ruckus - won't leave them alone to let them have the basic things that would make live worth living here. Said stupid white people will and have turn against white "race traitors" who refuse to enable their faggotry. It's Nazification, it's eugenics, it's Germanic, and reasonable people think it's fucking stupid. The same essentialism can be applied to any group, even an arbitrary group like "blue eyed people" that has no real political history. And of course, it specializes professions and essentializes them.

What all of that means in the longer term is the creation of a caste system, and this is what the partisans really want. Once they get rid of that pesky concept of "laws" they will move ahead with creating the caste system these fags have always wanted.
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 No.477280

I shouldn't besmirch Uncle Ruckus, because he actually works for a living and, ultimately, is a decent-hearted and caring person who does all sorts of favors for the Freemans. Most of the assholes who do this are just shameless fags with no such redeeming quality whatsoever.
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 No.477281

And in case you object to my naming of "fags", I do not support any "anti-fag" laws or this idiotic eugenist drive to purge all of the homosexuals. The sexual politics angle is always used for eugenics and nothing else, and this is true of homosexualism, feminism, and the pornification of society. You can talk to some gay guys who haven't gone crazy and they're wondering what society people think we live in, because they feel they're worse targets now than they've been at any time, and they're being forcibly "outed" and put through the wringer.
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 No.478116

>>477254
>muh brain develolment
>muh zoomzoom are dummies


Go back to "adulting"


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 No.477550[Reply]

US Justice Department confirms: Stalin did nothing wrong, because Stalin made very difficult, national security decisions, operating under extraordinary time pressure.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/01/12/fjoc-j12.html

<Practically the first words out of Sauer’s mouth were to warn the judges that if Trump could be held criminally liable for his actions in the White House, so could previous presidents. “To authorize the prosecution of a president for his official acts would open up a pandora’s box which this nation may never recover,” he said.

<“Could George W. Bush be prosecuted for allegedly giving false information to Congress to induce the nation to go to war in Iraq under false pretenses? Could President Obama for allegedly authorizing drone strikes targeting US citizens?”

One faction in bourgeois politics tries to go after another, and then realizes: fuck our guys did the same.
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 No.477551

No shit? Nobody wants to prosecute Trump, and if they want to get rid of Trump, they wouldn't use this infantile rules lawyering. Trump is their plan and always has been. Why would a liberal oppose him? They would love to run against Trump forever.
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 No.478085

>>477551
This.
Trump is an outlier pawn. Hes not anti-establishment. Hes just making a bigger tink than the typcial candidate.

His whole indignation campaign is just to generate profot to recover from his failed businesses.


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 No.460105[Reply]

>revolution will never happen in the first wo- YAKC!

https://truthout.org/video/stakes-are-high-for-workers-so-unions-are-mobilizing-for-midterms/

>Polls show 70% of American people support unionization
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 No.461610

>>461568
In what way was terrorism not good for radicalizing people in the 60s and 70s? It was a huge part of the insurrections and civil wars that characterized the period.
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 No.461915

I think that you're missing the point here. Are these people supporting new unions, or AFL-CIO unions? AFL-CIO unions are actively cucking to the actions of Congress and the big bourgeoisie, so unless you have a plan to salt them and bring change or(much more likely) create new systems altogether for class struggle, I don't think this is the flex you think it is. Ask anyone you know what the IBEW or the UFT is like, and they will tell you the same story; little representation in negotiations, constant loss of bargaining power due to increasing workforce(ergo inexperienced workers that cannot provide the same quality), revisionist and outright bourgeois representatives. It's Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution to a textbook level. I suppose there's nothing we can do on our own to find out what the data actually means by that though.
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 No.461946

>>461915
Also workers in general are to stupid to understand how unions work. I'm dead serious. At my old job that was union everyone would constantly bitch about the union but never participate in meetings or do anything to support it.
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 No.478026

>>460170
>People love a lot of things that make their lives worse. Speaking of chaos and destruction, isn't that state precisely where our fantasies lie? Who wouldn't prefer a Mad Max-style apocalypse to going to work tomorrow? Who wouldn't rather live in a horrible, awful fantasy world like Fallout? I don't think that you appreciate the powder keg that we are sitting on. People hate this fucking world.


People are infected with main character syndrome. They only look at rhe glitz and glamor of Hollywood productions. In real life, alot of people would be overdosing on drugs or suiciding to cope.

People hate their own reality because they crave action/adventure fiction brainrot they read in comic books amd movies.
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 No.478049

>>461946
why else is the American South anti-union?


Where I live, its mostly union retiress from the northeast corridor but they vote against union policies here.


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 No.477582[Reply]

So Taiwan recently had elections, where the DDP won. The DDP is tied to the US. Their election campaign was focused on Taiwan secession from the one China principle. Oddly enough The Biden administration congratulated the DDP for their election victory by saying that the US doesn't support Taiwan independence.

While all this was going on, rumors started to surface that up to 90% of Taiwanese Generals and high-ranking military brass go to work in China when they retire from their military career. So while the US took over the Taiwanese political strata, the Chinese took over the command structure of the Taiwanese military. Mao probably would call this The party controls the gun.

So it appears that the neocon plan to create a Taiwan-China war is now cock-blocked. However with the US having a lot of influence over Taiwan's political strata, reunification is now paused as well.

This is a stalemate, and that means there's probably not going to be a happening in that region. Eventually all of this will tip in China's favor and reunification will happen once the US empire has sufficiently receded.

I guess this is good news for Asia, since they'll probably get spared a big war. It's probably bad news for the middle east tho.
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 No.477583

How did this even happen? Did the US rig an election? I thought the Taiwanese had grown rather weary of saber rattling anti-China bullshit.
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 No.477584

>>477583
>How did this even happen?
Last i checked up on this was probably half a year ago. And at that point it looked like the DDP was headed for an electoral defeat and independence/secession was off the table. I didn't pay attention so i can't tell you what happened in the meantime.

>Did the US rig an election?

Yeah that thought crossed my mind as well

>I thought the Taiwanese had grown rather weary of saber rattling anti-China bullshit.

That's still the case. People in the west are weary of the neocon's Ukraine war and the Zionists trying to genocide the Palestinians, but that shit continues none the less.
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 No.477705

>>477583
The DPP only got 40 percent but thanks to Taiwans retarded election law the highest number in one round wins even if its not a majority


 No.475181[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

JERUSALEM/GAZA, Oct 7 (Reuters) - The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years on Saturday, killing more than 20 people in a surprise assault that combined gunmen penetrating into Israeli towns with a barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.

Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.

"Our enemy will pay a price the type of which it has never known," he said. "We are in a war and we will win it."

At least 22 Israelis were killed in the attack so far with more than 250 wounded, Israel's ambulance service said, but added that the toll was expected to rise.

The Israeli military said it had launched air strikes into Gaza, where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions, with at least two dead.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/sirens-warning-incoming-rockets-sound-around-gaza-near-tel-aviv-2023-10-07/
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 No.477618

>>477615
No, credit where credit is do, John Mearsheimer's takes are grounded in reality, even if we don't agree on ideology.

>FFS you can be anti-Israel and also acknowledge that Hamas pulled some sick shit on October 7.

I'm not necessarily opposed to Israel, i'm opposed to Zionism, because its fascist(Marxist definition) in ideology and praxis. At least in theory Israel could be a "normal" country without the apartheid mega-death bullshit.

A violent reaction to the inhuman conditions in Gaza is universal to the human species, if there wasn't a Hamas there would be something else. Ultimately the Zionists created the conditions for OCT7 and i think they should get the blame. You certainly can't blame the Palestinians, they aren't granted rights and protections, hence they don't have obligations either. This is not a one-way street, the Zionists do not get to impose uncivilized conditions on Palestinians and still demand civilized conduct in return. If you create good material conditions for people you get peaceful people with a pleasant attitude. If you create horrible material conditions for people, you get violent and unpleasant people. It's not realistic to expect anything else. Consider that most Palestinians alive today, never experienced peace, their entire life has been war, their entire live has been an experience that political agency flows from the bomb-bay of a fighter jet.

There is another disturbing political current that i wish to oppose. There are people who try to harm others by weaponizing the environment, and that can't get a pass. A historic example would be Malthus from the 1800s, he advocated to create unsanitary conditions in the poor-people districts in order to encourage more death among the poor. The Zionists have also tried to kill Palestinians via a weaponized environment.

Of course I would much prefer if there was a secular communist resistance that embodied enlightenment values in Gaza instead of Hamas with backwards religious stuff. But there's no point in complaining, there already are more than enough armchair communists complaining about how other people are struggling wrong.

Also the Zionists went too far and they have now become "Tätervolk", and no longer count as "Opfervolk" in the Political framing.
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 No.477619

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>>477615
>citing a political scientist whose theories have consistently produced accurate predictions as a credible source
Time to move on from the Ukraine grift, anon?
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 No.477623

>>477615
all settlers deserved it
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 No.477626

>>477615
If I understand correctly, Mearshimer is saying that Israel killed (or fabricated killings of) it's own people while Hamas attacked, to make a claim that Hamas is unfathomable evil.

There is a pathological need to believe Hamas was "pressed to act", "triggered", or something that retains the belief that people are pawns to be moved by the system. There hasn't been "restraint" or "tit for tat responses" as if they were two entities at peace. We're past the point where there is reconciliation. That's over, and there was no reconciliation as far as the Muslim world cared short of Israel's dissolution as "Israel". So long as Israel exists, it would be a violent imposition on the region. The aim of the Muslims has long been to rid the region of that entity.
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 No.477664

>>477626
>If I understand correctly, Mearshimer is saying that Israel killed (or fabricated killings of) it's own people while Hamas attacked, to make a claim that Hamas is unfathomable evil.
Not quite.
The Hannibal doctrine means that the IDF will murder with prejudice their own soldiers and Israeli citizens in order to prevent them from getting captured/kidnapped.
It looks like the IDF did that during the Hamas attack, which included kidnapping/capture of Israeli citizens and idf-soldiers. Later the Israelis claimed that Hamas had killed those people that in reality got "haniballed"
In addition to that Zionist propaganda also made up horror stories about decapitated babies and mutilations of women, in order to paint a picture of "unfathomable evil"
>There is a pathological need to believe Hamas was "pressed to act", "triggered", or something
Yes the Palestinians are very triggered about having to live under a Zionist occupation, and feel pressed to act towards ending that occupation. Human beings really hate being subjected to a brutal occupation force that stomps them into the dirt. And they will try to kill their occupies every chance they get. That's just how reality works. Some people a appear to have a pathological need to believe that there is an expectation that victims of such an occupation ought not to fight back.
> We're past the point where there is reconciliation. That's over
You're manufacturing consent for a regional war ? why ?
Sometimes i get the impression that we need more militant diplomacy efforts.
>So long as Israel exists, it would be a violent imposition on the region. The aim of the Muslims has long been to rid the region of that entity.
This isn't a war of civilizations. Israel could stop doing the retarded Zionist ethno-state expansionism bullshit and quit being the US imperial attack dog. Simply becoming a normal country of that region that has normal relations is an option.


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 No.477570[Reply]

God damn

Families in disbelief after hundreds of bodies found buried behind Mississippi jail

Jan 10 2024

The discovery of 215 bodies buried in unmarked graves behind a jail outside of Jackson, Mississippi, has left a community in disbelief. The families are angry they were never notified of the deaths and how their loved ones are buried in graves marked by just a metal rod and a number. Amna Nawaz discussed the disturbing details that have emerged with Bettersten Wade and attorney Ben Crump.

The families are angry their loved ones were buried in so-called pauper's graves marked by just a metal rod and a number and families were never notified of their deaths. The startling revelation came months after the mother of 37-year-old Dexter Wade filed a missing persons report last March. It wasn't until August when Bettersten Wade learned her son had been hit by a police car and killed, then buried in that same cemetery.

"And then I was calling them. They didn't have no information to let me know, have they found any information? All the details that I gave them for leads, they never came back to me to say, well, that lead led to something that we can work with. And I just couldn't believe that he had disappeared off the face of Earth and nobody knows where he at."

"And it was just horrible for me. And every day I wake up, I just want — I just look, look, look, just looking for him, just out in the streets looking for him. And, I mean, that's heartbreaking for a mother, and can't say hello, don't know how to get in touch with him. That is a horrible thing for a mother."

Benjamin Crump:
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>>477571
It's unclear. My impression is that causes of death vary, although the fact that they apparently told nobody about these graves and haven't kept open records of these deaths is incredibly suspicious. If it's not all murder, it's incredibly negligent at the least.
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>>477572
Lol, yeah that'd be the head-line if it had happened in China

>>477573
>the fact that they apparently told nobody about these graves and haven't kept open records of these deaths is incredibly suspicious.
Yup, it sounds like the premise for a B-Movie horror film.
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Should we expect to learn there was organ harvesting?
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maybe they know too much
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>>477575
I haven't researched the organ mafia in great detail, so take what i say with a grain of salt. It appears that they sort off "professionalized" and are no longuer operating in the underground where they get rid of bodies by digging ditches.

But you're hunch about it being some gruesome crime disposal-site, might still be true. Maybe it's cannibals. There haven't been scandals about that in a while.


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