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>Trump's Home has been raided by the Fed's and the Right is on suicide watch.
Where were you when Civil War II Electric Boogaloo was canceled?
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The republicans were already going that route Trump just unleashed it a decade before hand.


Unironically, it's because he's not racist enough. Also Mitt Romney is viewed as an orthodox elite, and that does him no favors in a political climate where people are generally dissatisfied with the establishment


Police: Man killed himself after ramming US Capitol barrier
>WASHINGTON (AP) — A man drove his car into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol early Sunday and then began firing gunshots in the air before fatally shooting himself, police said.


Didn't this happen under the Floyd riots too.

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Ukraine's Thread, for fuck's sake
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>more liberal screeching about fantasy scenarios
Russia is now undoubtedly winning the war, they have just liberated Udy, Vershyna and Pisky. Ukrainians are pinned down by artillery in trenches around Mykolaiv, praying for a Kherson counter-offensive that will never come.

This is the extent of the Ukrainian offensive by Kherson:
>This isn’t Afghanistan, it’s not Iraq … it’s sitting in a hole getting shelled. You could die at any moment. You could die without even firing a round'
Some more Canadian neo-nazi volounteers ran home with their tail between their legs after they realised that they don't have the tech or support they had while slaughtering Afghani sheep herders.

Russia has already won this war. Now we wait for Ukraine and its master NATO to realise it.


lol at that image. But I'm not a Russia shill.


answer these Nazi cuckboy: >>456124 >>456129 >>456132
you ignore the facts you can't meme to, and always get caught up on one thing.

How embarrassing will it be for you after Ukraine capitulates? You gonna come back into this thread and say you were wrong? Didn't think so.


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Putin’s fascists: the Russian state’s long history of cultivating homegrown neo-Nazis
>Many commentators have already debunked Russian President Vladimir Putin’s absurd claim to be waging war to “de-nazify” Ukraine.

>Some have pointed out the far right received only 2% of the vote in Ukraine’s 2019 parliamentary elections, far less than in most of Europe. Others have drawn attention to Ukraine’s Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and the efforts of the Ukrainian state to protect minorities like Crimean Tatars and LGBTQ+ people, who are subject to brutal persecution in Russia.

>What has received less coverage is the Putin regime’s own record of collaboration with far-right extremists. Even as Russian diplomats condemned “fascists” in the Baltic states and Kremlin propagandists railed against imaginary “Ukronazis” in power in Kyiv, the Russian state was cultivating its own homegrown Nazis.



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Is this shit even worth talking about?
Some retard shot up an FBI feild office in Connecticut. Probably some maga retard who thinks he's fighting a revolution. What is the deal with these people?


Not worth talking about. You can go on endlessly about retards.


Post this in the Trump thread!


uygha I lov laughing at them though

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Was gonna make this thread on that other site but got smacked with an insane bullshit ban for hurting a janny's feelings, so let's see if we can get an interesting discussion here instead. Since the end of the Thirty Years' War and the Peace of Westphalia, Western warfare had been conducted through rules of engagement excluding the targeting of civilians. Sherman's March to the Sea was an early exception, and the Japanese civilian bombings in China in the early 1930s seemed to shock many Western powers at the time. However, it wasn't until World War II when the major powers threw this idea completely out the window and began targeting civilians in mass with the justification that long-range aerial bombardment can theoretically quickly bring a conflict to an end where previous conventional wars had been bogged down. Modern military power is such that most belligerents can reduce the others' cities to rubble or kill each others' populations indirectly through the targeting of infrastructure if they choose to.

Let's say the workers in a country have just won a revolution against their own capitalists and they now find themselves at war with other capitalist powers. Is there any room left for restraint among anti-capitalists when it comes to targeting noncombatants in the 21st century? Can or should anti-capitalists engage in "just" warfare when fighting for their existence?
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OP and this thread are stupid and lame.


Not as lame as your butt.


Suck it.


Anyone knowledgeable on the subject know if the Soviets bombed out cities during WWII, much like Britain, Germany, the US, and Japan?


They didn't have the capability to do so but Stalin probably would if he could, especially if it was in retaliation for German attacks.

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The FED just popped the biggest bubble in the history of man kind and we are about to experience one of the most dramatic down turns in history.

The question is what are YOU doing in order to take control of history and lead the prolotariate out of this endless market anarchy?

Look at this:

subprime loans are begging to default

This is the same kind of predetory borrowing that we saw in the 2008 financial crisis and these people, forced to choose between debt and good in the face of infaltion, obviously are choosing food.

Fanne Mae expects economic contraction in the housing market.


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I warned you bro, I told you dog


So the US had it's economy contract for two quarters in a row, by their own definitions they are in a recession. What does this mean for workers?

Also there are increasingly many protests in numerous countries, mostly european ones from what I've seen hints of. Completely not covered by the media. Should I be optimistic that western societies are approaching revolutionary conditions?


Corporations are sitting on trillions in cash. It's going to be a decade before we see this bubble pop.


>What does this mean for workers?
I think it's actually a good sign because the unemployment continues to slowly fall.
I think we're at an inflection point where the efficiency gains from IT, and illegal immigration are tapped out.
Businesses will continue to shrink but this will not be accompanied by an erosion of worker political power because there is no way to squeeze more value out of them.
I predict we'll see more desperate attempts at deploying half baked technology like self-driving trucks and trains that will go hairwire or be hacked, or genetic engineering products that give you cancer.


And I'll be sitting nice from my comfy factory job.

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Observers seem totally lost regarding the latest developments. They cannot put the pieces together and they jump from one place to another not knowing where to head or where to reach. Some observers are completely lost . One analyst today said that the US is unable to overcome Russia, and therefore it hopes to push Russia into China’s arms and after that it would be easy to deal with China because the US will deal with it the same way it dealt with the USSR, and will cause its collapse . This is close to delirium and is just to give you an idea about how people are looking at things . Certainly , the situation is complicated and what makes it more complicated is that no one is looking at facts or is giving a good reading of what is happening , and they are either linked to a certain agenda or starting from a wrong assumption . No one wants to understand the reality about the war on Ukraine and they want to see in it a righteous cause or a Russian self defense initiative while it is something totally different and is a conspiracy on Ukraine and on Russia and on the world security and stability , and will cause penury and food shortages. What we are witnessing is the next chapter after the Covid 19 conspiracy that has struck all societies and undermined them socially , financially and economically. But the tendency is to see in this a Russian cause at the time the NATO missiles were not even deployed and Ukraine is Not a NATO member and has difficulties joining the EU even . And this will lead to partitioning Ukraine and displacing the people and sanctioning Russia only to find new markets for the israeli gas in Europe . No one wants to investigate Putin’s past to find out who Putin is, for how to invest in someone who has starved his own people by stealing the money reaped from exchanging foods in return of minerals ? The media now is demonizing Putin – they say- but this not true because no one is casting a light on his past and this recent demonization is to remain for consumption and will never reveal who Putin is . As for the alignment USA+Gulf Countries+israel it was outshined by the spectacular Iran+Russia +Turkey alignment after Turkey has been promoting its relations with israel and the gulf countries and when Russia is still coordinating with israel the raids over Syria that have multiplied lately . And they say that this is a strategic alliance between the 3 and many are buying this, keeping in mind that withholding Turkey from annexing more SyriaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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The world powers are maneuvering and not sincere . China has become a tiger made of paper no one is taking seriously the Chinese military maneuvers while 3 unarmed drones overflying Karish have made israel stand on one foot and the world powers have mobilized


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It is a one world order that we have to deal with, or rather say disorder, and this order is set against the peoples themselves, any peoples, and has for purpose to submit peoples and defeat them. This is in short the conglomeration of world powers and their strategy . Their strategy is not against this or that state or this or that country, their strategy is against the people themselves and including their own people whom they subdue in various ways by confiscating their will and by manipulating them and granting them a fake freedom in which they have no say and through which they do the world powers bidding while thinking that they are acting freely .
Why we say this is because of the weapons that these countries are developing stealthily. and the kind of arms they keep in their arsenals which are weapons that target peoples and do harm to people, and all the world powers develop these weapons that cause great damage to peoples whether Europe or US or China or Russia, and they are all part of the world powers . Remember Hiroshima and Nagazaki . Who was targeted in these atomic bombs ? it is the people themselves and they are the ones who suffered and are still suffering . And beside the Japanese we have the Palestinians and the Vietnamese and the Iraqis and the Syrians and the Libyans and the Yemenis and the Lebanese and the Iranians and the Ukrainians and others, not to forget the Native Nations in the New world and the Irish people that were among the first victims . The kind of weapons these countries harbor explains the nature of the target which is none other than the people whom they seek to exterminate. .
Take a country like China- for example- that develops biological weapons and does biological researches that are funded by the USA after the USA has closed its biological labs at home due to the Anthrax threat and scandal , and has assigned China and other countries the continuation of the researches concerning biological weapons. This is how China resumed these researches in its labs in Wuhan from where Covid 19 originated, and we never learned how this pandemic spread , and we had to be satisfied with the bat and rat version, and all the scientists who raised specific questions were silenced . All this while the biological labs in Ukraine are being denounced nowadays by Russia after decades of complacency, and no one speaks about the Wuhan biological researches funded by US to develop biological weapons . This shows that China is a reaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Who defends the people are the Resistances in Lebanon, in Palestine, in Iraq and in Yemen, and they have acquired the right weapons and have taken to arms pressured by the situation and the immanent threat on their very existence . Their war is a defensive war and their weapons are defensive weapons .


israel's issue nowadays is the fuel issue >>455681 >>455676 and the extraction of the natural gas from Karish and the Lebanese Resistance threats that there is no fuel for anyone unless Lebanon starts extracting. And israel has its hands tied . Neither could it answer the Resistance conditions nor could it ignore them . One way out of this dilemma is to open a new front which israel did by declaring war on the closest faction to Iran and the Resistance which is al Jihad al Islami . A Palestinian failure here would have been in favor of israel . But al Jihad held the ground and the israelis failed .


The world powers produce harmful weapons and then sell them to indigenous countries. Iran is the only strong country that does not sell arms.

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Free Brittney Griner!
>The basketball star is an innocent victim of the reactionary conflict between US imperialism and the Putin regime in Moscow.

The USSR and the USA used to trade captured spies, which each considered an asset. The haggling was done quietly and behind closed doors. Now, the US and Russia - and others - frame and use just about anyone as a bargaining chip for geopolitics.

In this case, obviously politics is overriding justice. Ms. Griner's medical records and doctor's prescription are evidence of medical necessity. She was not using hard drugs for recreation or entertainment. She should have never been arrested or imprisoned. Putin's regime is opportunistic as are others.

In a capitalist dominated world, everyone is treated as a commodity and disposable (at minimum expandable). Worse, even entire countries are being used as proxies, such as Ukraine and Taiwan, not just ordinary citizens. Millions of human beings suffer as a result of geopolitics.
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>She isn't even hot.

Absolutely kek


I don't think you can classify basket ball palywrs for the NBA bourgeois. Labor aristocrat but not bourgeoisie.


Do you have any principles, anon?


>Free Brittney Griner
lol is this a shitpost?


That's a dude…

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Was the internet good or bad for radical leftists and pro-revolutionarys? Before the internet you were say either in or out of the local groups, you disagreed with a few things, and you're kicked out, burn the heretic. This either led to people making their own group, conforming, or just abandoning theory all together, to become one of those people who called it just a "phase" now they happily vote liberal. The internet allowed these disgruntled and say vagabond, despised people to spread their books and pamphlets, now everybody interested could read what they had to say and those not possessed by the local mantra could become a follower. Everything said on here, the internet is nothing, it has no value whatsoever, irl groups had more power of course around town, but they're still as powerless as groups on the internet are.


That's to say it increased our ranks a lot, but it didn't make us any more powerful, many more people may have knowledge of theory, but we have no force and force is power. The internet increased the power of the global capitalist system many times over than it did for those against it, for example a person may have an inkling towards radicalism. But when they get home from work they have their own niche, why read any theory when they can get many time more gratification from interaction with the same people who enjoy the same entertainment they day. Not to say that normal people were more inclined to read theory before the internet, no, today access to theory is a click away, millions more people can read it a thousand times easier. But they won't still, as always of course, we are small and few.


Well I guess those "niche" clubs still existed like the cult of Ringo, but pre-internet niche groups are puny and pathetic to the size and scope of the internet.


>Was the internet good or bad ?
Are people still using the internet, when they log on to corporate platforms like facebook ?
The main feature of the internet was that it made a million different systems talk to each other, but once you log on to a corporate platform that's no longer the case. Facebook and other platforms like it are closed networks, you can only visit with their system (official website or phone-app) and only their back-end servers are allowed. That's no longer like the internet.

You can of course say that it's still using the tcp/ip protocol but so is your local-lan network and that's not part of the internet either.

So I'm going to say that the internet was good, and that we should go back to it.

You also need realistic expectations, it's just an information exchange system, it's not going to create a better world for us.

There are however a few things about the internet that we fucked up, that is not the fault of corporate platforms locking users into closed systems adjacent to the internet. Even in the web 1.0 days when social media was basic forums. It was possible to click on their account name and read every post they ever made. You don't have that in meatspace when you meat a person, you can't easily find out everything they ever said. Why did we build this shortcut for stalkers and which-hunting-mobs into the web ? We should never have build this on account systems with names that correspond to virtual personas (The intuition that people evolved is for meat-space limitations). We should instead have treated it like a big wall full of drawers and give people 2 sets of keys, the first one allows you to open a drawer and read the letters inside, and the second key allows your to write a message and add it to the drawer. And your browser stores the keys (with usb-stick backup functionality)
If you wanted to sign your message with your name you could still do that.

Another mistake is that links are one-way-valves. You can use a link to go from website A to Website B, but when you are on Website B you can not go to Website A unless there is a second link that links the other way. You have a back-button in your browser but that doesn't help if you start out on website B. Search engines have something like back-link catalogues, some of these seaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Leftypol is a shithole and so are 95 % of the users. Perfect example imo, is this, and the Israel vs Palestine shit, even though that is a bit different. I don't give a damn about this conflict or any conflict, or supporting the people of Ukraine, my first and foremost goal is the revolution, the destruction of capitalism. Also from what I've read there and in the Ukraine thread, their proposed anti-imperialism is just whining about US imperialism, while supporting Russia and China (both capitalist states), this is in fact entirely pro-capitalist.
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The anti-war and peace movement failed. Despite the millions marching war and capital go on and on, unchanged. If anything the peace movement helped capitalism be more versatile, thousands are able to live happily in the capitalist world, a lifestyle of non-radical anti-war time-wasters, they blame the social institutions not the capitalists. I'm sick of them and I'm sick of the discussion on the Ukraine or Taiwan, I'm sick of capitalism, I spit on the reformers or moderates, I am more for communism than ever.


The real roots of the anti-war movment were founded in early 2000's and 90's anti-capitalism though .I understand that shit like that will usually get co-opt'd by capitalism, but, that still doesn't mean that it's alright to support wars where workers kill workers in the name of captialist governments. That's insane.


>but, that still doesn't mean that it's alright to support wars where workers kill workers in the name of captialist governments. That's insane.
Are you fucking retarded or trolling? what part about hating capitalism and being more for communism than ever confused your snail sized brain.


That doesn't necessarily mean you are against war, dumb ass. You are projecting.


I already said I was indifferent to it you shithead. You put words in my mouth saying I was supporting wars where workers got killed. Go ahead and kill yourself and don't reply, you and everything you say are shit.

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You are all mentally deranged, cultists who will not succeed in your attempt to subvert healthy societies to international socialism, there is nothing good here. Your administration support a virtue signalling cult where dissent is not allowed, you do not have free thought. A society which operates under your principles and rule will inevitable collapse. There is no hope in leftist or any other politics which attempts to subvert the raw, tribal society.
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Good quote.


Yeah so what? What does that have to do with the working people rising up and freeing themselves from.their chains?


I should have added more, yes. Lenin is often quoted or looked up to by pro-revolutionarys, the situation was entirely out of his hand, the German empire used him as a tool to weaken Tsarist Russia. Had the Germans not employed Lenin, he would have just been another anti-tsarist pro-revolutionary in permanent exile. The destruction of capitalism, the revolution, was most probable or maybe possible in the aftermath of WW1, a situation entirely out of the hands of the working class.


Not really, capitalism, though its own internal contradictions usually brings about a crisis in one way or the other. You are thinking in terms of nations and borders but the global industrial proletarian are the only ones who can truly organize and achieve a world free from the exploitative labor of capital. There were plenty more things kicking off at the time around the world including in the united states outside of russia. The real major issue with the modern era is taht industrial labor is all but killed and now they are trying to kill it more by raming through the USCMA trade agreement which is basically the TTP 2.0. But, no, you are wrong or you don't really seem to understand; Of course history is out of lenins hands. It's out of everyones hands. We do not MAKE history it is only up to us as a class of people to grab hold of it and take control of it for ourselves.


>Not really, capitalism, though its own internal contradictions usually brings about a crisis in one way or the other
WW1 was the biggest crisis of the global capitalist system.
>You are thinking in terms of nations and borders but the global industrial proletarian are the only ones who can truly organize and achieve a world free from the exploitative labor of capital
They can't and wont organize unless a major crisis in the capitalist system forces them to in their own self-intrest, the proletariat aren't noble knights, they're selfish and look out for their best interest, and who's to say they actually progress but not go backwards anyway?
>There were plenty more things kicking off at the time around the world including in the united states outside of russia
That's why I mentioned WW1 and not just Lenin.
>The real major issue with the modern era is that industrial labor is all but killed and now they are trying to kill it more by raming through the USCMA trade agreement which is basically the TTP 2.0
Industrial labor is all but killed in the west, imperial core, it still exists in southern asia and what Brazil? That problem is kinda our fault, western corporations weren't willing to pay industrial workers higher wages, the capitalists all went to look for cheap labour.
>But, no, you are wrong or you don't really seem to understand; Of course history is out of lenins hands. It's out of everyones hands. We do not MAKE history it is only up to us as a class of people to grab hold of it and take control of it for ourselves.
Our class isn't untied at all, and it won't ever be, the ultimate proof of this is that we all essentially agree on the same things, but the radical left has always been infighting, there is no consciousness, in the same way all the various religious sects in the world are the final disproof for the universal message of The Word of God.

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