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 No.458671[Reply]

Itt we discuss socialist and capitalist civic planning.

What ways could future socialist civic planning create better lifestyles and communities, help mitigate the effects of climate change, etc, and how is capitalist civic planning soul crushing?
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 No.458708

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>Nooo you can't do that everything looks the same noo
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 No.459323

>>458671
I think under socialism we would try to build "civic units" in a way that they contain the living-space, the work-spaces and the recreational-spaces in one unit. That way the workers have it easier to keep an eye on the means of production, and it reduces commuting to work or leisure activities. Obviously not all work or recreation can take place next to a living space, but as a loose principle, it should work.

Capitalists tend to build separate "storage facilities" for the labor force, separate zones for commercial activity and industrial activities. Because in their minds it probably makes sense to sort things that way. In the real world it funnels people through bottle-necks, which is both frustrating and inefficient.

I'm not sure why the capitalist arrangement feels so soul crushing. Maybe people prefer it when a environment contains most of the things they need, i don't know, it could be some kind of evolutionary preference.


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 No.458871[Reply]

Basedman disrupts AOC town hall, calls her out for voting to fund proxy war against Russia and stoking the potential of nuclear war.

https://twitter.com/JosBtrigga/status/1580364662419312641
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 No.459203

>>459199
Yeah, that was based, though.
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 No.459209

>>459199
>NOOOO! You can't execute a man for crimes against humanity if you are NATO!
Sheesh. Anyway, in no way do I advocate interventionism. It should be Iranians themselves who put their clerical fashoid government to the sword.
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 No.459230

>>459203
How so?

>>459209
>It should be Iranians themselves who put their clerical fashoid government to the sword.
Highly unlikely to happen considering that Iranians broadly support their government. It was the Iranian people who partook in the mass revolution against their old government to put the current regime in power. And the Iranian government aren't fascists, they're self declared reactionaries with strong anti-imperialistic tendencies. Fascism come about in the early 1900s, Shia Islam has been around for a lot longer than that.
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 No.459246

>>459181
Meh, you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. You can make Iran more socially liberal without a coup that plays into Western hands.
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 No.459265

>>459246
You could, but certainly a western backed coup would be the fastest way to make Iran more pozzed


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 No.459070[Reply]

What aspects of social life do you think would change after the revolution in your country. I think tackling the reconstruction of social life after the revolution will be vital to success of the working class. Like for example in America will Halloween still exist afterwards? The working class is subjected to a month long advertisement campaign by massive capitalist candy corporations. Mars, Ferrero, Mondelez ect… This would not be the same after capitalism.
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 No.459073

I have never much liked Halloween because it is a consumerist holiday now but so is everything, tbf.
I think traditions like Halloween would be quite fun outside of the influence of capitalism
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 No.459075

>>459073
Even under capitalist influence, it's one of my favorite times of the year lol
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 No.459077

>>459075
yeah the dressing up is nice and seeing sluts in tantilizing costumes is awesome but I dunno it just has felt weird after 2000. Like, Trunk or treat? It's just "Go grab and the candy you can and that's it" people don't walk around and dress up anymore. Its kind of sad
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 No.459079

>>459077
Ya, that is too bad.

When I was younger, we would egg and teepee people houses and generally raise hell.

Kids today are coddled, permaonline, and suffer from anxiety disorders that they often fail to grow out of (or sublimate into other personality disorders). I didn't realize that they don't even really trick or treat anymore. Very sad.
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 No.459137

>>459079
I did that with my first romantic love interest m I was extremely innocent. It's insane to look at that and be who I am now.


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 No.458717[Reply]

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 No.458844

>>458827
>We should keep doing exactly what made us irrelevant in order to stop becoming more irrelevant
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 No.458923

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>>458844
I'm just not going to support anti-vax rightoid nutters just because they oppose NATO. I know, I know, but I'm just not going to do it.
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 No.458924

>>458923
Who cares what you want tbh?

Women don't care.

The rest of the left doesn't care.

I don't care.

Literally no one cares what runts want
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 No.458990

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>>458924
Yet here you are making a thread and responding, begging me to care. You are alone, and in my apathy towards schizo rightoids, I am in good company. I'm just going to keep posting tragic robot anime girls.


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 No.458561[Reply]

Increasing number of glowies running as democrats

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/06/bxwz-o06.html

The same organizations which specialize in running glowops and rigging elections abroad are now trying to enter congress under the Democratic Party umbrella.

More evidence in support of #magacommunism?
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 No.458975

>>458971
Retvrn (to leftypol)
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 No.458977

>>458975
>Clearly outnumbered in his dogshit red-brown thread
<Claims everyone else is from .org
Have you considered that just because this board isn’t as censorious as .org doesn’t mean it suddenly isn’t a leftist board?
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 No.458978

>>458977
But you did just come from leftypol, right…?
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 No.458979

>>458978
Nope, I’ve used this board since it was created, just much more now that .org has dropped even the pretense of being a communist/anarchist/leftist board
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 No.458981

>>458979
You have a pure soul.


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 No.454290[Reply]

How do people confuse this man's ideas as being anti communist or some how that communists are some slave moralists at all like Christians or some shit? It doesn't make sense. Slave morality is driven by the false belief that one is free from the vengeful nature of the ruling class (in his class Christianity) and that they are above it and the actions of their rulers.

Communism doesn't trick anyone who follows Marxist ideology into believing they should "turn the other cheek" ok the contrary it tells people to pick up the gun in their own self interest and become the masters of their own destiny.

So how did the wires get crossed in the first place? Are lolberts who think commies are slave moralists just brainwashed? Are they the real slave moralists after all? I mean think of their ideology. It's all predicated on the fact that they maybe might one day get the boot.

Mfw lolberts are the concept of slave morality, lol.
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 No.458914

>>454290
he explicitly and repeatedly denounces democracy as slave moralist.
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 No.458918

>>458809
Leninists try not to regurgitate Great Man Theory challenge (impossible!)
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 No.458920

>>458918
>I CAN'T READ
The point is that Nietzsche's strongest proponents ought to idolize communist revolutionaries if they truly believe in his philosophy.
I never said that I agree with him or that he was right.
Try again.
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 No.463325

Nietzsche's ideas can be spun to fit any ideology, and historically he has been claimed by everyone from fascists to anarchists. His philosophy is basically a Rorschach test and you will get from it what you want to get from it.


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 No.458452[Reply]

Fascism, in the Leninist sense, isn't an ideological constellation, as liberals of all stripes seem to believe, but is rather qualified by the actual relation to class structure and oligarchy.

In that vein, it is apologists and cheerleaders of today's oligarchal power, not Trump supporters, who are the true fascists.

This of course, begs they question, what/who are the oligarchs and what institutions do they rule through. If we are honest, this shouldn't be a hard question to answer. They are, naturally the ruling institutions which dominate the current social and political sphere on the national and international level as a front to their economic rule.

It is one's relationship to preserving these institutions which determines if they are a 'fascist.'
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 No.458511

>>458508
Also imagine thinking good and evil is a thing means you must necessarily believe in God
Is this how retarded people who want to commit mass murder and execute children truly are?
Do you think the vast majority of atheists are moral relativists that don’t believe in ethics?

Do you think you should be proud that you can justify mutilating a child?
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 No.458512

>>458487
>Russia is fighting a defensive preemptive war
Russia is fighting on the defense in relation to NATO, but it's not preemptive at all they waited for 8 years to launch their attack.

>doing a wholesome peaceful

Of course there are no peaceful military operations, we are not going to turn words into their opposites, but you can't really deny that Russia made a reasonable offer for peace. They asked for administrative autonomy for eastern Ukraine, that would have ended ethnic discrimination laws and it would have created a Ukrainian political block that would have vetoed NATO integration. The other thing they asked for was ending the civil war. Ukraine would only have lost Crimea. If i remember correctly that deal even allowed for Ukraine joining the European Union with some legal and military caveats. All things considered that was a pretty good deal.
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 No.458513

>>458512
>If only Ukraine allowed Russia’s annexation of its territory, if only the country accepted being carved up!
It’s funny how you actively refuse to apply this same logic with the communist movement in Syria

Tankies are worthless nationalist shitters masquerading as communists
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 No.458516

>>458513
I don't know what you are talking about ?
Didn't Assad give the Syrian Kurds a semi autonomous region, just as long as they uphold the political formality that they are part of Syria.
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 No.458528

>>458516
The Syrian government and the DFNS are indeed cooperating fairly well at the moment.


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 No.458381[Reply]

Wtf was this wave of New World populism? I can find many parallels between Huey Long, Perón and Getulio Vargas. They were all anti-communist but progressive and pro-social reform. People either loved or hated them and no one can agree on what they stood for.

Suffice to say they were influenced by the changes going on in Europe at the time (fascism and stalinism) with the difference they didn't have an existential communist threat so I think that played a role.

Were they Fourth Position or some shit?
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 No.458425

>>458408
>Your wording is a bit confusing to read, so I won't pretend to understand what you meant to say.
take it slow, read it multiple times
they teach this in the school for special needs, you should know it

>bureaucratic/technocratic led society

a bunch of vague meaningless buzzwords
next

>This state form atop a mixed economic mode of production

>mode of production
I don't think this term means what you think it means lol

protip: it's just capitalist mode of production

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 No.458427

>>458425
You sound unhinged
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 No.458429

>>458427
and you sound like no arguments
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 No.458430

>>458429
I simply have nothing to gain from arguing with a terminally online 'tribune of the people,' like yourself
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 No.458431

>>458430
But Im on the toilet rn, so I guess I will shit on you.

>take it slow, read it multiple times

they teach this in the school for special needs, you should know it

Substanceless ad hominem

>a bunch of vague meaningless buzzwords

next

If you say so

>I don't think this term means what you think it means lol. protip: it's just capitalist mode of production


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 No.458345[Reply]

Discuss the invasion of Ukraine by Russia in this thread. Including tangential topics like the Nordstream 2 explosion.
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 No.458352

>>458345
God, what absolute fucking retards lol
no checkpoints on the road they just shoot random cars passing by
while getting recorded lol

no wonder this shit failed
well I guess one positive in all this is that OMON and Rosgvardia got their asses handed to them lol
I guess they got too used to fighting unarmed civilians at home lol
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 No.458353

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>>458345
>OMG GUYS CIVILIANS DIE IN WAR, THIS IS DEFINITIVE PROOF PUTLER IS THE BAD GUY!!!!!
Kiev had the Azov battalion systematically execute refugees fleeing Mariupol (picrel), but I'm sure you didn't gaf about that. Surprisingly, soldiers do fucked up shit to civies during war. You should really stop being such a sheltered moralfag.
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 No.458374

>>458353
99% of discussion about Russia/Ukraine is just moralfaggotry.
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 No.458458

>>458353
What is your source saying that this was Azov shooting civilians?


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 No.458035[Reply]

After headlines poured in about the 'far right' victory in Italy, I decided to do some digging.

Given that the media lies so much, I decided I shouldn't trust the 'far right' label thrown around by the walking SSRI addicted biomass globs known as journalists. Instead, I decided to try and figure what the Brothers of Italy's policies are. Here's where they stand on various issues according to:

https://italia.isidewith.com/en/parties/brothers-of-italy/policies

I've judged each stance as based or cringe based on my own subjective opinion. Feel free to do the same yourself.

(These are all described by the aforementioned website as being the positions of the party's support base. It's very hard to find any media outlet to cite the party's platform on many issue. they're more concerned with repeating buzzwords like 'far right' ad nauseam while patting themselves on the backs for being 'serious journalists.')

Require employers to pay men and women the same for the same job - support (based)

Increasing environmental regulations to cut CO2 emissions - support (based)

State endorsed euthanasia - oppose (based)
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 No.458060

>>458059
Yeah, I feel like these journos skipped the whole march on Rome part of Mussolini's rise to power…
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 No.458062

>>458060
>Omg, i heard a thing
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 No.458063

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Um, based department is calling
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 No.458129

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>Oh no, eurobros. She's naming the [checks notes] financial speculators.
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 No.458240

>>458059
Because according to liberals, social democracy + social conservatism = fascism.
There's a kernel of truth there of course.


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