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 No.480629[View All]

I have been banned from leftypol.org for saying, that you can be a leftist and also oppose trans-ideology. This is not a fringe position, since Sahra Wagenknecht openly voiced her opposition against trans-ideology in the german parliament live on TV. And yes, she calls it that way.
I'm interested, how this site here will react to left-conservative opinions.
https://www.sahra-wagenknecht.de/de/article/3336.ihr-gesetz-macht-eltern-und-kinder-zu-versuchskaninchen-der-pharmaindustrie.html
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 No.485991

>>485979
Are you fucking stupid? People used to say the exact same thing about black people. That some how if black men where around white women unsupervised for more than 10 seconds they would be unwill to hold back their urge to rape them. You have fucking worms in your brain and have been infected by right wing propoganda you retard. The reason social is kill in the US is a lot more complicated than "the blacks did it"

And the reason you can't post that shit on org is because the staff are reddit fags and russian operatives who's job it is is to destroy the anti idpol left.
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 No.485992

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>>485991
>russian operatives
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 No.485993

>>485988
Yes, THE CAUSE.
The socialist cause for a better future in wich everyone will be equal under the law and the oligarchs will be punished for ammassing wealth and oppressing the masses of workers who have the fruits of their labor stolen by the greed of capitalism.
WORKERS! You constantly work all day every single day and yet 99% of the fruits of your labor are taken by the capitalists for their luxury needs while you are left with the crumbs despite being the sole maker of the production output, it is time to end this nonsense that has led back our civilization for centuries WE MUST BE UNITED UNDER THE RED FLAG OF SOCIALISM! THE RED FLAG WILL WIN! THE RED FLAG WILL WIN! GLORY TO THE RED FLAG!
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 No.485997

I feel like you don't know anything about biology or transition. Aren't you supposed to use this site for informed discussion
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 No.486000

>>485991
I kinda get your impulse, you want to push back against hate-mongering. But the other anon is sort of correct about there being a narcissism problem. The psychological abuse you can find your self being subjected too can go beyond what is tolerable.

There is criticism to be had on strategy as well, the T's focused on appearance, sociology, legalism and managerial-ism.

There was another option:

They could have gone into bio-tech instead. There is a bio-mod community which is composed of the least judgemental people to ever exist. By now they could have been half-way to creating a open technology stack for biotech. Instead of punitive enforcement of social norms they could have been championing universal freedoms to controle your body.

I mean why not go for actual metamorphosis ?

The other anon you are debating likely thinks that
significantly modifying the appearance = predator disguise

People won't think that if you mod the substance instead. And there would be some overlap of interests, many people have minor complaints about their biology they might wish to have modded as well.

Realistically Biology is very complex, and the people who start this quest won't be the ones that finish it. And there are no guarantees, it might not work out. That said it's a shame that there wasn't even an attempt, and the moment for getting this going might already have passed.
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 No.486018

>>485992
"raaaa raaa raaa you're cia raa raa raa"

>>486000

I agree that people on the left can take the whole censorship bubble and hate mongering too far. I mean I am posting here, but, I also understand that touting literal bigotry is not the answer to that.

I judge people on a case by case basis. Sterotyping is just harkening back to bigotry different minorities have faced since the dawn of human civilization.
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 No.486020

>>486018
You want me to believe that Russian "operatives" are a problem when the agencies with by far the a) greatest incentive, a) greatest resources available to them, and c) actual exposed operations in manipulating online discourse all come out of the United States. Sorry officer not buying it.
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 No.486022

>>486020
If you think a nation the size of russia with the history, oligarchic power and military, let alone, geographic size that Russia inhabits isn't capable of espionage (the ex soviet union ffs) gullible has your picture next to it in the dictionary. Pointing out that Russia has been shown to have influenced the last 3 election is not defending the united states like a right wing maga patriot you retarded faggot.

Not to mention thatyou becoming so incredibly butt-hurt by this quip is curious enough in and of itself.
>defending org

>nooo not russian

<even though Russia and the US are explicitly anti-communist in 2024
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 No.486023

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>>486022
>Pointing out that Russia has been shown to have influenced the last 3 election is not defending the united states like a right wing maga patriot you retarded faggot.
You haven't "pointed out" anything. You have zero fucking evidence for your assertion and you're simply parroting a McCarthyite narrative like a good MSNBC-consuming liberal whose critical thinking faculties have been evacuated. Your dipshit narrative has collapsed so many times over now that the only people who still take it seriously are partisan hacks.
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 No.486028

>>485977
They do say this about blacks and other minorities already lol
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 No.486035

>>485979
You're completely unhinged.
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 No.486049

>>486035
Compared to you Troon lovers who think that Kids should be sterilised and that gender/sex exists in a metaphysical state outside the body and the entire left exists to tell you how valid you are.
Also note, my position is the position of the vast majority of Communist Parties on earth, including the CPC and the CPSU. Troon metaphysics is the ideology of Western elite shitlibs.
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 No.486052

>>486022
>If you think a nation the size of russia with the history, oligarchic power and military, let alone, geographic size that Russia inhabits isn't capable of espionage
Geographic size isn't related to the capacity to conduct espionage, spies are not an agricultural product that scales with land area.
Russia probably spies on the US, for military secrets and commercial stuff too, but that's not the same as election interference.

Also Russiagate that started in 2016 turned out to be a crazy conspiracy theory, every claim the Russiagaters made had to be retracted. You cannot expect anybody to take that stuff seriously anymore.

AS far as demonstrable election interference goes, there is the Zionist lobby that openly brags about sabotaging political candidates that do not toe their political line. There is other stuff like the green party getting ballot access denied. The people who do this kind of stuff probably would prefer if you directed your attention elsewhere, like some distant country.

When i hear election interference i associate that with the Zionist lobby, they appear to be the worst offender.
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 No.486054

>>486052
The biggest election interference happened during the Democratic primary anyway. The whole idea of russiagate was deflection.
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 No.486062

>>486049
Imo, self sterilisation is the least problematic thing. In fact, I would promote self sterilisation due to the amount of developmental disorders.
Why should these people potentially reproduce their problems through their offspring?
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 No.486063

>>485516
>how having sex clowns twerk in front of children while "reading" stories is honestly bonkers to me.

Doubt.jpg

I never heard nor seen this happen.
Society gets offended over teens showing sexual drive
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 No.486068

>>485968
It's not worth asking these types of questions, because it's not supposed to be consistently logical. It's escapism as a reaction to alienation. It's just that people have taken the escapism to serious extents that it's affected wider spheres of influence. If it wasn't "gender idealogy", it would have simply manifested in some different form.
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 No.486081

>>486054
>>486052

You retards I didn't even mention the whole tenant media thing which you fags are clearly ignoring. The Russia government deff is interfering in the on goings of the US political and cultural institutions keep living in denial you pathetic sheep.

Isreali obviously being involved in the political instiutions of the United States has nothing to do with the conversation.
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 No.486082

>>485969
How does migration undermine worker power? That makes no sense. If anything it gives us more power because the fact we have numbers is what gives us power.
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 No.486090

>>486081
You're talking to a wall. Maybe i can help you understand why.

We reason that Israel is interfering in US politics because they are extracting resources and favors from the US in ways that is irrational for the US.

We assume that Russia isn't able to do that because all they got was a pile of crap: sanctions and a new cold-war with proxy wars.

What state officials, the propaganda dissemination, and other consent manufacturing mechanisms say about this topic isn't directly being considered for the perception of reality. We assume they only talk about them selves. Their narratives sometimes correlate with political actions. For example if their narratives contain the word "putin" a lot that correlates with economic inflation and attacks on democratic rights.

If the narrative analysis were to be applied to your post, you would be saying:
Stories about Russia to divert attention away from Zionist political interference.
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 No.486092

>>486081
You're retarded dude
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 No.486100

>>486092
>….yo…you….you're retarded "dude!"

You're a fucking dumb fuck of the highest caliber.

>>486090

>We reason that Israel is interfering in US politics because they are extracting resources and favors from the US in ways that is irrational for the US.

<We assume that Russia isn't able to do that because all they got was a pile of crap: sanctions and a new cold-war with proxy wars.


uygha Russia can be poor and do espionage at the same time. They were literally caught red handed through the whole Tenant media thing. This is no longer an opinion this is an established fact.

The truth is that you are unwittingly saying stories about whatever to distract away from the fact that this is fact. I can say one thing and also believe another thing. They are not mutually exclusive. Spare me your pearl clutching.
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 No.486107

>>486100
>Russia can be poor and do espionage at the same time.
Nobody implied Russia was too poor to do espionage. Also espionage is not the same as political interference.

The point is that the Russians do not appear to be able to interfere with the US's political system, because compared to the Israeli (who are overtly interfering in US politics), they're not getting any money or weapons like the Israeli. The Russians were subjected to economic-warfare and military aggression, don't you think that if they could interfere in the US's political system they would at least have gotten the Nuland gang and their Ukraine operation halted.

>I'm the one who establishes the facts
Boy you really must want people to ignore you.

I don't know what the Tenant thing is, but you are welcome to share your opinions on it, specifically what kind of concession the Russians were able to extract from the US with it.

> The truth is that you are unwittingly saying stories about whatever to distract away from
The Zionist lobby trying to drag the US into a massive regional conflict with Iran and a dozen other countries/factions isn't a distraction. Millions of people would die, a third of the world's trade would get interrupted, most of the world's economy (with a few exceptions like China that disruption proofed their economy) would go to shit.
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 No.486110

>>485489
Nta but if you search for certain gender related terms, like "xenogender", you'll find some fan wiki, and under the sources will usually list one tumblr blog, if not several. It doesn't happen with all terms, but a lot of them. You can search it yourself if you don't believe me.
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 No.486112

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>>486107
>nooo bro you don't understand the ZIONISTS are trying to draw the US into a WORLD WAR that's why you can't talk about russian interferance!

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/05/nx-s1-5100829/russia-election-influencers-youtube

I don't believe that you do not know about this stop playing dumb.
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 No.486113

>>486100
My dude you are a massive fucking retard
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 No.486358

>>486113
>personal attacks with no substantiation.

Are we done here?
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 No.486368

>>486112
>the ZIONISTS are trying to draw the US into a WORLD WAR that's why you can't
give a shit about influencer drama.
Zionist interference with the US's political system has very high stakes.
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 No.486370

>>486368
You are a political hack you know that? I didn't say that isreal doesn't influence politics in the united states you illiterate retard.
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 No.486371

>>486112
NPR has been a mouthpiece for intelligence community propaganda for many years now. I still remember their uncritical reporting on the faked Syrian gas attacks. It's hardly surprising that they're still peddling moronic hysterical Russiagate conspiracy theories, they've been doing it since 2016. The tinfoil hat is apt because that's what you ought to be wearing if you actually believe this bullshit.
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 No.486373

>>486370
>You are a political hack you know that?
I wasn't gonna say it, but i was thinking the same thing about you. I think we should drop the superfluous assholery and disagree with each other politely.

And lets be real
I can see the Zionist lobby, it's massive and acting so aggressively that it's gotten really noticeable.
I can't see any indication that the Russians have a lobby, not even a little one. Point to anything in the political system of the US, that they have managed to bend in their favor.
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 No.486375

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>>486373
>I was gonna say the same thing about you!!!

At least I don't cherry pick what people are saying to me with my blinders on like a massive faggot.
Contentious disagreements are for people who are acting in good faith politically.

It's out right disingenious to say, or, imply, you have to have a political lobbyu in public view to influence the motives of a government and it's people. Like i'm sorry but the reality seems so obviously in contradiction to this I have no choice but to assume you are bot posting. Again, The Russian government spent millions of dollars on Tenant media and its associative and, in true form, when this information was provided for you, for free, you just sat their and doubled down and reiterated your nonsensical talking points.
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 No.486376

>>485989
>>government propaganda website sez We need mor government
That's not what it's saying?

You do realize obesity means people aren't eating well right? That doesn't mean they're spending so much on food that they're getting fat.
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 No.486380

>>486373
Not only do the Russians not have a lobby, they removed their embassy presence a few years ago when the US economic/proxy war metastasized. And back during first Trump administration they were forced to shut down RT America when the McCarthyite witch hunts got too extreme.
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 No.486381

>>486375
It's on you to explain to us what this Tenant Media debacle even amounted to. Please do not rely on implications or innuendo.
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 No.486382

>>486381
BRO LMAO, you are just being fucking incredulous. You know exactly what the fuck it is. Tim Pool was fucking involved in it. Millions and millions of dollars were paid to tim pool and people like tim pool from the Russian Government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Tenet_Media_investigation
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 No.486383

>>486382
Of course I'm incredulous. Why would anyone with a skeptical bone in their body or any sort of critical thinking skills be anything but incredulous after eight years of endless lies and manufactured controversies about the Russian boogeyman?

>You know exactly what the fuck it is.
No anon, that's not going to cut it. I asked you not to rely on implications or innuendo. I'm not interested in the kind of sloppy logic and obfuscatory thinking that predominates McCarthyite narratives. And Wikipedia is an exceptionally poor tertiary source on anything involving geopolitics.

In your own words, what does this whole affair actually amount to? If you're so convinced of its nefariousness you should have no problem communicating it to others.
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 No.486384

>>486383
Being Skeptical and Being Incredulous are two differnet things. Being Skeptical is what leads your average person to accepting evolution as fact and Global Warming as reality. Being Incredulous is what leads people to believing the earth is flat and that the local water supplies turns teenagers into gay frogs. Which is you.

If you cannot take the time out of your day to read factual information that was shown to you twice now than you are teetering on the edge of just posting propaganda. Cope seethe and dial8 you fucking dumb transhumanist uyghur.

>Russia isn't interfering in anything at all

>what about xyz

>NO UHHH WHAT DOES THIS WHOLE AFFAIR AMMOUNT TOO

You look like a fucking retard.
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 No.486385

>>486383
Hey you stupid idiot. I'm gonna slap you with a fish, you're so dumb. Why are you so stupid & obtuse?
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 No.486389

>>486382
Wait so your whole "Russia interfered with the election!" thing is that some RT employees gave funding to a niche media org? Do you realize how stupid that is?
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 No.486390

>>486384
"Skeptics" as in the Skeptics movement, those who subscribe to Skeptic magazine, the IFLS bros, etc. they're all white supremacists and eurocentrists, but they hide behind the "skeptic" mask. They're the first ones to tell you Europe is responsible for world civilisation and that black people just arentas smart as white people (not racist, based on facts like autism score tests, other test scores, uni admissions, college degrees, etc.)

They aren't racists, they just trust in the science, and science says white europeans are the best.
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 No.486391

>>486389
>niche media organization
<tim pool.

This is what I mean. You faggots are literally just Russian spies lmfao. It was hundreds of millions of dollars given to the largest "independent" specifically right wing content creators in history.
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 No.486393

>>486391
>You faggots are literally just Russian spies
You're just proving what an unserious person you are. Did you blow in from the DNC?

>hundreds of millions of dollars
The link you posted said 10 million. And a youtuber with 1.3 million subscribers is absolutely niche. That's less than a 10th of Joe Rogan.
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 No.486396

>>486391
I'm curious how you would describe RT America, a news channel that had the the likes of Larry King, Chris Hedges, Lee Camp, Abby Martin, etc. Or Sputnik Radio, which had some excellent radio shows with the likes of Wilmer Leon (lefty political scientist), Brian Becker (PSL organizer), and John Kiriakou (CIA whistleblower).
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 No.486448

>>486391
whatever Russia allegedly gave these people is many orders of magnitudes smaller than whatever aipac spent.

like at best the supposed "influence" exerted by Russia is paying for advertisements or what in any other non-politicized context would be considered editorials.

minus the anti foreigner hysteria the crime committed here is the failure to disclose campaign contribution sources which is a misdemeanor.
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 No.486449

>>486358
Just a reminder that you're a fucking retard.
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 No.486456

>>486375
>At least I don't cherry pick
You kinda do. You're fixated on this one media story while you ignore the rest of reality that contradicts your argument.

>disingenious to say, or, imply, you have to have a political lobbyu in public view to influence the motives of a government and it's people.
It's kinda unavoidable, any significant influence is going to get noticed.

>spent millions of dollars on media
You are in effect arguing that funding media is election interference. If you applied that as a principle, it likely would have very dramatic consequences. I wonder how the media landscape looked like if media could only get money from small donations from it's audience. Tbh i haven't investigated, so i can't really speak to this.

Regardless, if you are making the accusation that the political processes were interfered with, you kinda have to show what the alleged interference has done ? If this doesn't do anything, why care about this ? unless it's just a pretext for a political which-hunt.

Looking at the effects of the machinations of the Zionist lobby, very dramatic violations of democratic rights have occurred. There's an example for you.
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 No.486457

>>486383
>Of course I'm incredulous. Why would anyone with a skeptical bone in their body or any sort of critical thinking skills be anything but incredulous after eight years of endless lies and manufactured controversies about the Russian boogeyman?
Yeah they cried Russia-gate so many times. And they've made false accusations against anti-war people, almost equating opposing the drive to war with treason. That was the point where i checked out and filed the hole thing under warmongering.
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 No.486459

>>486384
>If you cannot take the time out of your day to read factual information
The mainstream media are sales people who try to sell wars, factual information is incidental.
They invented weapons of mass destruction and infanticide to sell a war in Iraq, they invented chemical attacks in Syria, and at some point they even claimed China was murdering between 1 and 2 million people in extermination camps.

If they say stuff that sounds like another sales-pitch for war, it's not unreasonable to just dismiss it.
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 No.486460

>>486391
>You faggots are literally just Russian spies lmfao
They said that about everybody who predicted that a Nato-Russia proxy war would back-fire.

>>486393
kek we have a new unit of measurement
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