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 No.462013[View All]

This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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 No.469785

>>469780
>The US could rebuild it's industrial power.
Of course they could retard. The question is "why should they?". What's in it for elites?

As you apparently can't read, I will repeat myself - burger elites started to freak out only when chinese started to compete in the high value added markets.

>Why aren't they doing it ? Has the US ruling class lost the capacity to run industries ?

Why aren't they doing what? Why should elites care about industry when they control high value added markets?
They started to move onshore only after they saw that chinese are set in their ways and wouldn't budge.

>the capitalist class wasn't allowed to take political power

dengoid retardation
it insults my intelligence that you thought your tired mantras would work on me

capitalist elites are the ruling class in china, they just have a different political superstructure that I think makes their politicians more in touch with reality

>I get the impression that what the Chinese are doing is letting capitalism operate as long as it's improving the productive forces, stays away from political power, socializing losses or interfering with social developmental goals. In the long run that means that every time capitalism produces a crisis a small part of it gets trimmed away for crossing one of these lines. Eventually all parts of capitalism will fall to the wayside because they became a hindrance for the development of the productive forces and in the long run it will give way to a socialist system.

dengoid bedtime stories for children

very-very lazy work, you need to try harder lol

>This is true but i kinda have to admit that i don't really understand why the Soviet ML structure broke and while the Chinese one remained solid.

Soviet Union was mainly an industrial society, while China was still mainly agrarian.

Crisis of the soviet leninoid political superstructure with its elites was a crisis of the urbanized industrial society. While Chinese leninoid elites switched to capitalism before PRC could approach this point. And it looks like leninoid political superstructure is actually a pretty efficient tool for managing the capitalist society and resolving conflicts within the capitalist class.
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 No.469786

>>469785
Industrial power is an important part of the means of production, it's the "king-maker". The power to shape matter at gigantic scales.

Industrial power made the US into the world hegemon after ww2, it's what made the Soviet Union able to smash fascism. Russian industrial power is the reason why the sanctions-war doesn't work against them. The large Chinese industrial base is what has lifted them into a position where they can say "NO" to the US.

The neo-liberal move towards de-industrialization is why the west is declining.

>capitalist elites are the ruling class in china

There's no way a bunch of billionaires could tell the politburo or the general secretary what to do. The Chinese bourgeoisie is not in control.

>Soviet Union was mainly an industrial society, while China was still mainly agrarian.

No China definitely is a industrial society, you can make the case that there are still some people doing subsistence farming but it's not the primary mode of production. Maybe you could have said this 30 years ago, and it would have been less wrong.

>While Chinese leninist switched to capitalism

>it looks like leninist political superstructure is actually a pretty efficient tool for managing the capitalist society
You could say that the PRC did a super extended and expanded version of the NEP, but it's not a capitalist country, they do not have a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The reason why they are able to manage capitalist contradictions is because they hold the Chinese capitalists at gun point.
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 No.469849

The Chinese navy can afford to ram the US navy in the Strait of Taiwan because their naval repair yards are very close by, while US naval vessels have to sail a very long distance if they need serious repairs.

https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=_qPvTDxy1F0
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 No.472060

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Party penetration deepens in China’s private sector

<The increased penetration of the private sector by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is causing widespread concern.


<The establishment of party branches within private companies is perceived as a potential lever of control, alongside financial and regulatory tools, that the government could wield to keep businesses in line. But while the increasing centrality of the CCP in state-owned enterprises (SOEs) is evident, its role in private companies remains less obvious.


https://asiatimes.com/2023/08/party-penetration-deepens-in-chinas-private-sector/

So are there any Marxists analyzing what this does ?
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 No.472066

>>469786
Tfw has never been to China
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 No.472684

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 No.472782

so i want to ask, do this thread cycle like the prc thread in leftypol.org or no ?. i want to archive things
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 No.472784

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>>472782
no this thread doesn't appear to cycle, because it doesn't have the cyclical-symbol.
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 No.472814

>>472784
oh. ok
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 No.473070

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So China released it's first smartphone where all the silicon is homegrown. Apparently they're now able to do 7nm mass-production. People consider it a competitive offering.

Anyway the anti-tech sanctions against China seem to have made China more technology independent.

I wonder if China can make it's own high-tech now, whether that means that the IP/patent shit will become less profitable, which would lower the influence on politics and make the laws less suffocating for tech development.
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 No.473074

>>473070
Can't wait for a serious OpenRISC chip from China to finally tell Intel and AMD to fuck off forever.
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 No.473082

>>473074
Open cpu architectures will be great. I think that when stuff like OpenRisk and RiskV take off that Intel and Amd will also release chips in that category, probably hybrid designs that also contain their powerfull x86 cores.

But you are right a Chinese competitor will break into the big chip duopoly. I wonder what a Chinese desktop class cpu will look like. Assuming it gets derived from smartphones SOCs it might have a pretty radical design.

I think the memory interface is due for a shake up. Processors are getting powerfull integrated graphics and machine-learning accelerator units. With that it makes sense to put a few gigs of really fast d-ram into the processor package, and optimize the normal system memory towards size. The bleeding edge of RAM is scratching at the limitations of signal pulses in wires. So either RAM will split up into onchip fast-ram plus on-mainboard bulk-ram, like i said above, or it's time to upgrade to fiber-optic data-lanes.

It will certainly be interesting to see how this plays out, if China enters the race as well, things might start moving. Also there's hoping that free and open hardware gets a boost out of this as well.
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 No.474442

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So BackRock executives in China now have to study Xi Jinping thought. They have to dedicate a 3rd of their work-time to it.

I think this is funny, because usually the big porkies fund a bunch of think-tanks who try to do ideological indoctrination of the hole population. And now they're getting a taste of their own medicine.

But i still would like to know what Blackrock execs did to invoke this reaction.
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 No.474925

China Vows Anti-Corruption Crackdown on Financial Sector

<The pledge comes amid Chinese president Xi Jinping’s increased focus on national security risks within the party, government, and large industries


<China’s top decision-making body has pledged to increase its efforts to crack down on corruption in the financial sector and in public firms, according to a report by Chinese state media Xinhua.


<“(We) need to…promote those who do not dare to, cannot and do not want to (engage in) in corruption,” officials said in the meeting chaired by Chinese President Xi Jinping, according to a Xinhua readout.


https://www.asiafinancial.com/china-vows-anti-corruption-crackdown-on-financial-sector

China is doing an anti-corruption purge in it's finance sector, does anybody know what is going on ?
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 No.476379

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 No.476406

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>>476379
yes, based fucking racism with communist characteristics

go cry about muh japanese, ching-chong

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 No.476408

>>476406
>yes, based fucking racism with communist characteristics
I could be mistaken but the Chinese appear to be re-using historic insults that UK diplomats used against Indian dignitaries during India's anti-colonial independence struggle. This probably is a wink wink nudge nudge towards India.
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 No.476410

>>476408
yes dengeneroid, UK diplomats totally used "a symbol of British extinction" as an insult against Indians lol

it totally isn't a typical rightoid screeching about muh immigrants lol
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 No.476411

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动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
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 No.476412

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>During the Cultural Revolution, he and his family were targeted by Red Guards, who imprisoned Deng's eldest son, Deng Pufang. Deng Pufang was tortured and jumped out, or was thrown out, of the window of a four-story building in 1968, becoming a paraplegic. In October 1969 Deng Xiaoping was sent to the Xinjian County Tractor Factory in rural Jiangxi province to work as a regular worker.[49]: 466  In his four years there,[50] Deng spent his spare time writing. He was purged nationally, but to a lesser scale than President Liu Shaoqi.
Based Red Guards lol.
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 No.476413

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>In May 1966, the Cultural Revolution cut short Xi's secondary education when all secondary classes were halted for students to criticise and fight their teachers. Student militants ransacked the Xi family home and one of Xi's sisters, Xi Heping, committed suicide from the pressure.
>Later, his mother was forced to publicly denounce his father, as he was paraded before a crowd as an enemy of the revolution. His father was later imprisoned in 1968 when Xi was aged 15. Without the protection of his father, Xi was sent to work in Liangjiahe Village, Wen'anyi, Yanchuan County, Yan'an, Shaanxi, in 1969 in Mao Zedong's Down to the Countryside Movement.[14] He worked as the party secretary of Liangjiahe, where he lived in a cave house.[15] According to people who knew him, this experience led him to feel affinity with the rural poor.[16] After a few months, unable to stand rural life, he ran away to Beijing. He was arrested during a crackdown on deserters from the countryside and sent to a work camp to dig ditches, but he later returned to the village. He then spent a total of seven years there.[17][18]
<unable to stand rural life, he ran away to Beijing
what a fucking little bitch kek

man, I fucking LOVE cultural revolution. It's even better than Stalin's Great Purge, because it was done in the open. It's my favorite part when revolution backfires on everyone kek.
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 No.476414

>>476411
why are you spamming this text block with the Chinese letters over and over ?
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 No.476415

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>>476414
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
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 No.476416

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>>476415
Funny guy, what's it for ?
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 No.476417

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>>476416
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
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 No.476423

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>>476417
cope uyghur
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 No.476794

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Ever since the "spy Balloon affair" that turned out to be a weather balloon. China gave the US diplomatic-wing the cold shoulder and refused meetings between Xi and Biden.

After begging for many months, the Chinese finally agreed to warm up a little and XI visited the US.

Guess what Biden did, he called Xi a dictator again, flushing all that hard work of US diplomats down the drain.
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 No.476795

>>476794
It's incredibly obvious that Biden is not in control of his mental faculties at this point. The question is, will his repeat failures to stay on script finally make his handlers decide that they've had enough? And if one branch of government is too chickenshit to remove him from office over health issues, where does that leave the other branches of government that have to answer to a president who isn't there? It seems to me there's some potential for a coup.
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 No.476796

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>>476795
Hasn't every president been senile tho? I don't quite get what makes biden's case stand out other than it being fresh in memory.
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 No.476797

>>476795
The rumor I hear is that they're waiting until after primaries to engineer an "accident" or a resignation, so the party can assert whomever they want and say "emergency". A primary contest would only weaken Biden, and also it is generally accepted that the incumbent will run for a second term. Usually the sitting party's disapproval of the incumbent would mean they get wrecked in the general. It's also well known that the discontent is not with Biden the man, but with the Democrats as a party and the entire ruling appratus. Switching Biden for a cardboard cut-out would not only not change their fate but probably makes it worse. They will need to engineer a lot more crisis to push who they want.

The real coup isn't happening because of Biden or Trump or the spectacle. There are much larger machines at work which do not want the US to continue in the recognizable form, and it was just a matter of clearing out the last generation that had a memory of the old country as anything that worked or was worth defending. If anyone wanted to salvage the country, Trump would have been removed or not allowed to run in the first place, and nothing about him would have been encouraged or tolerated. It was clear when Trump was impeached that by failing to remove him, the country was already done. All that remains is to make it official, and enough crisis has been generated to bring that about. The crisis will be worse in the next year, and at the end - at the critical happening - there will be a play to dissolve the country, or effectively do so in a way that will be obvious to anyone who still cares. As it is, Biden is like keeping the seat empty, and the open disdain for him is indicative of what the ruling power in this country wants to do.
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 No.476798

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Why don't Chinese leaders just come out with a press release in English already stating outright that the US president is demented? It's not like they have anything to lose at this point. It could potentially produce so much domestic pressure that they would have to get rid of Biden.
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 No.476799

I don't think Biden is truly "senile" in the sense that he doesn't know anything that is happening, or even is as clueless as Reagan who was nothing but a puppet of rot and death. He's not good at politics and he never had any loyalists fighting for him, but he's not so out of touch that he doesn't know what this is and how fucked he is. You could put the most competent and intelligent and sane human being in his position and they wouldn't fare any better, and you can tell that essentializing the eugenic qualities of politicians is part of this operation. It's not about anything they actually do or the obligations of the office, but about appearances and performances. Trump was 100% performative politics, and the one time he was asked to make actual decisions, he cowered like the sniveling retard he is and his supplicants are. Obama made his whole "thing" an appeal to technocratic elites governing things behind the curtain, and did everything he could to emphasize that power had moved away from the office. This is not easy, and Obama did have to do actual work to sell this, which was not something any cardboard cut-out could do, but Obama was unusual in that he didn't drone on about his legacy or the typical markers of distinction Presidents sought. Everything he did emphasized the power behind the curtain, and the role the President would play to facilitate that power over everything else. His function very clearly was to mollify the angry mob and be the cypher that would allow everyone to see what they wanted to see, and he was able to stage-manage the crisis of 2008 where the men behind the curtain couldn't. They need a leader to channel rage and divert it to useless objectives, and Obama made it one of his "things" to trigger his opponents and needle them in every way possible.

The mere existence of sniveling retarded failure that was Trump should make it clear none of this shit is real. I don't see Biden being able to do much or even making particularly bad decisions. After COVID it was clear this country was no longer governed in any democratic way that was presumed to work. The very idea of democracy is alien to the younger generations' mindset. There is no going against what has been set in motion, and I doubt it could have happened without Trump encouraging autocannibalism. Everything since 2000 has been managed to lead to preplanned outcomes, whether the people agree with any of it or not. All that matters is the loyalty of key officers who are conscious of their hatred for the people above all else.
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 No.476800

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 No.476801

>>476798
If I'm Xi I would think Biden is the best deal in a long time. He has no choice but to be submissive to the interests Xi cares about, and everything Biden does signals a willingness to repair the relationship with China at any price. The CCP said Trump was the retard he is time and time again, and told their own people that this is what democracy creates and why it's a bad idea. So, as far as their press releases care, they've already gone on the record saying America is fucked up and the nominal rulers are safe to ignore. It would be better for them to let the Americans continue to turn on themselves than make some bold call for revolution in the US.
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 No.476802

>>476800
You're a fag.
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 No.476803

>>476798
because it's in their interests to have the US political machine ran by the feeble minded and demented. They don't want someone competent in office, unless they can influence/control them
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 No.476807

>>476795
>It's incredibly obvious that Biden is not in control of his mental faculties at this point.
It seems like he's phasing in and out, sometimes he seems lucid while other times he seems lost
>The question is, will his repeat failures to stay on script finally make his handlers decide that they've had enough?
Judging by Blinken's exasperated face yeah they seem to be royally fed up.
>remove him from office over health issues
That is not easy to do, because all the people within the political structure don't want the precedent, they don't want their rivals being able to scratch at their position by accusing them of having health issues.
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 No.476808

>>476798
>Why don't Chinese leaders just come out with a press release in English already stating outright that the US president is demented?
They did that once, sort off. In 2019 during the World Economic Forum in Davos, the infamous hedge-fund manager George Soros called China a “mortal threat to open societies” and singled out XI Jinpin as “the most dangerous enemy”. And the Chinese state-media replied by basically calling Soros a demented old man.

But i don't think that they will do that to public state officials, at least not in a press release.
China probably does not want to interfere in US internal politics.
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 No.476822

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson#Health_collapses

There's been much worse than Biden's appearance of incompetence. After Trump though, no one can make a claim that the President is there to do a job. He's purely a performance artist now.
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 No.476931

At this rate this guy is going to have to prostrate himself before Jinping if there's ever to be any hope of restoring China-US diplomatic relations.
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 No.476937

>>476931
I would say that diplomatic tone/tact is important. Biden seriously screwed up, however it's not because he insulted Xi's pride by using the wrong political title or anything like that.

It's because the Chinese probably interpret it as a threat. They don't care what Biden or anybody else in Washington thinks about them. What they do, is correlate rhetoric and action. The track-record shows that if a US president calls the leader of another country a dictator, that is frequently accompanied by actions to attempt to overthrow said government either with covert warfare tactics (like the CIA doing a color revolution), proxy warfare or a direct invasion.

The Chinese probably do take into account that Biden has declined mentally and is having unscheduled unintended political outbursts. However if the US political machinery lets Biden yell 'dictator' often enough, eventually the Chinese will take this as institutional consent and then it'll have real consequences for China-US relations.

All that said what the Chinese want most is for the US to quit meddling with Taiwan, and to quit fucking with international trade. If they did that, those actions would speak louder than anything else.
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 No.476972

>>476937
I doubt the CCP expects anything else from Biden - the liberals will always say the dictator line in PR roles that Biden and that poor lesbian woman do, but privately and in enough hints, there are bigwigs that openly dismiss such rhetoric. Blinken's reaction is indicative of the relationship, and from the start, the Biden administration signals weakness and a willingness to work with Xi. Part of that is American leadership "losing face" by appearing out of touch. Blinken took his lumps early and let himself be knocked down by some Chinese diplomat guy, or he came in thinking he could talk to seasoned civil service guys with the middle school principal voice. I doubt he actually believed that was intimidating or pandering - it was a display of deliberate arrogance with the intent of him being shot down and humiliated to the global public. Outside of the game of public impressions, none of these people care about any of that. They know the US isn't going to do shit to China.
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 No.476973

Bloomberg spoke in one talking head show and said point blank that Xi has to please constituents, after the news woman said "b-b-but dictator". Considering Bloomberg owns a shit ton of American mayors, his word is indicative of what goes in this country.
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 No.476974

>>476972
Rings true enough, but the CPC is not taking any chances by assuming there won't be a Sino-US war. They have the "century of humiliation" on their minds, and they're making sure they're prepared for all continuities.

>>476973
You're talking about this ?
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=TOu-2mulMog
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 No.477013

>>476974
Yeah, that's the clip. The talking heads are made to say the lies so that the "wise men" can lecture them about bits of the truth, i.e. common sense. The ordinary people are never to say the truth - they must follow. It's all scripted - she knows fully she's paid to lie in that particular way, even though nobody believes her or even gives a shit what happens in China. You're supposed to terminate your thought at "dictator", while the neoliberal rulers promote ultraviolent and showy images, calling their officers for show "Czars" and talking a bunch of shit about how stronk they are. Bill Clinton did this a lot to show how he wasn't the old type of liberal that was often associated with Democrats (not that this image of the soft liberal Democrat was ever what they were - they were just relatively sane when they were ordoliberals, which screaming Germanics interpret as an appearance of weakness since you're supposed to bellyfeel when triggered and scream like a retard).
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 No.477014

Obama was a master of this style of ruling by crisis and being the singular voice allowed to have all the correct ideas - literally the first true "cult of personality" that was manufactured, after trying to sell the idea that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao did this for doing basic things like "ruling" and "making speeches". Translate most of the clips of Hitler's speeches and they're basically things like "Germany rocks". That whole thing where they show you Hitler speaking untranslated German was a hint to the Krautoids that they're going to win and be vindicated.
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 No.477015

Actually think about how someone becomes a dictator and how much work that is. I see so many of these suits fuming that they know they could never do what Saddam did. They wouldn't last a day in that position.
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 No.477021

>>476974
God I fucking despise what PBS has turned into. Gone are the Bill Moyers or even the Tavis Smileys; now they have the same well-groomed shitheads that you'd find at CNN.
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 No.477024

>>477014
Obama frequently resorted to social proof and the unity principle to sell his policies and attack his enemies
>'thats not who we are'
Sort of rhetorical

Very effective with women and low t beta males
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 No.477025

>>477021
That was kind of what Moyers was behind the mask. Back then they maintained human face and acted as if there was still a public to broadcast to.
Obama was the breaking point, and then made it clear that Americans would be bombarded with propaganda as if they were an enemy population to be subdued. He made quasi-official what had always been implied by the ruling interests of this country. He continued to press for that as much as he could, and after leaving office still shows his face to sell that. Guy really hated Americans and encouraged others to do likewise.

With corpo media they masked off earlier, were more shameless and insulting towards the people. Someone watching PBS was probably looking for something that wasn't pure enabling rot, so they had a more pleasant mask. Even then, if you go back to the 1980s, formal news broadcasts were then about like those you'd find on PBS News. There was a decorum once expected about presenting journalism, because people only tolerate so much rot in the open. The vanguard worked to make Americans more and more evil since the 1990s, but with so many of these liberals, they were inside much worse than the screamingest Reaganite fags, which is saying a lot.

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