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 No.462013[View All]

This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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 No.487697

Does anyone have the China poverty alleviation graph webm? May have been made by Ginjeet. It had spooky classical/orchestral music in it.

Edit: The title was
>'The historically unprecedented alleviation of poverty in China'
and the music was:
>Prokofiev: Cinderella Suite No. 1, Op. 107 (VIII. Midnight)
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 No.487699

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>>487697
Gochu fam
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 No.487705

>>487699
Based! Thank you, I thought it was lost forever.
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 No.487709

>>487705
Now that I think about it, this is the greatest achievement in human history.
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 No.487711

>>487699
Should be paired with Jason Hickel's work on exposing the "global poverty reduction" lie.

https://www.jasonhickel.org/blog/2019/2/3/pinker-and-global-poverty
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 No.487712

>>487699
>>487711
By which I mean to point out that measuring poverty by how many people make $1.90 a day is an extremely shit way of assessing poverty and for all we know China could have a lot more or a lot less poverty than this graph implies. We shouldn't accept junk science just because it makes China look good.
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 No.487713

>>487699
Indeed, if we accept the self-serving trash measurement of poverty as invented by the World Bank and regurgitated in this graph, we would also be forced to accept that not only China but most other top countries have managed to reduce world poverty over the span of recent decades. And we can all thank the wonderful neoliberal policies of free trade and debt entrapment via the World Bank for doing it.
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 No.487730

I REALIZED TODAY:
SINCE THE WEST WANTS TO DESTORY CHINA THEY MAKE WESTERN RIGHTOIDS SAY THAT CHINA IS EVIL COMMUNISTS AND THEY MAKE THE WESTERN LEFTOIDS THAT CHINA IS EVIL CAPITALISTS
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 No.487731

>>464441
THERE IS NO ONE TRUE HOLY PURE-INTERPRETATION OF SOCIALISM BECAUSE THE SINATRA DOCTRINE WAS NEVER RESCINDED WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO KEEP GAMBLING WITH THE COMBINATIONS AND TAKE NOTES FROM WHO SUCCEEDS THE MOST
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 No.487732

>>487730
Ok lets unpack this, the US wants to encircle China and keep it in a subordinate role, of providing labor-power for what they call low and medium value added economic tasks. Basically design and finance is supposed to happen in the US while resource processing and assembly is supposed to happen in China. That way imperial capital can extract imperial super-profits, and they can play Chinese workers against US workers.

While China accommodates US companies and lets them exploit Chinese workers, they haven't been doing that for free. China was technologically behind and this arrangement allowed closing the technology gap. The US got cheap labor-power and the Chinese got newer technology. And the Chinese are now caught up and capable of generating homegrown technologies too. The Chinese consider this a fair exchange where both sides benefited and now want to continue the trade relationship with the US but in a way where the Chinese also do the high valued added stuff like design.

The US will now proceed to try various schemes to knock China back down into a subordinate role (like what it tried and failed with Russia) and when that fails, the US will be forced to divest from imperial militarism and re-invest into domestic industrial production and all the other stuff like infrastructure etc.

You are correct about the propaganda method, it's trying to portray China as the [insert political faction appropriate boogieman here]. And that's why the portrayal of China is so contradictory.

If you are listening to what the Chinese are saying, they plan on doing something similar to social democracy by the mid 2030s. That will be completed in the 2050s and by the late 2070s they will begin transitioning to communism which they think will take another 100 years to fully realize. So full communism in the latter third of the 22nd century. The 2050s date is also the time frame when the falling rate of profit bottoms out according to Marx's theories, so that time-table probably isn't a coincidence.
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 No.487740

>>487732
WHEN THE RATE OF PROFIT ACTUALLY HITS 0% ON 2059 WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS? WILL THE ENTIRE WORLD ALL BECOME SOCIALDEMOCRACY AT ONCE? WHO WILL ESCAPE TO WHERE?
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 No.487748

>>487740
When the profit rate declines, competition between capitalists intensifies. Meaning that one capitalist will try to increase their profits at the expense of another capitalist.

It's hard to predict how exactly this is going to play out. I guess that in the 2050s about half the workforce will work on stuff related to consequences of climate change. Many coastline cities will have flooded and there will be a big rebuilding and relocation effort. Combined with declining population demographics labor-power will be very scarce. So that'll probably squeeze the profit rate.

I don't know what the Chinese are planning to do, they've been doing a lot of cooperatives, maybe those can be turned into non-profit orgs or something.

In the past capitalism used wars to destroy capital and clear out the balance sheets to restore the profit rate, but as far as i can tell that recent big-ish war in Ukraine didn't really move the needle, so warfare as a means of counteracting the falling profit rate could be over. Not sure why that is tho.

It's already getting harder to commercialize technology, there's a bunch of cool stuff we could technically do, but we aren't doing it because there's no business-model for it. I guess that aspect of technology will continue to grow and eventually find expression in some other form.
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 No.489099

Anyone else laughing at all the western cope about China recently? There are so many comments that scream insecurity when talking about China lately. We are truly in the coping era of Americans.
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 No.489100

>>462013
>Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.
Oh, yeah? How about you sudoku yourself then?
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 No.489104

>>489099
>Anyone else laughing at all the western cope about China recently? There are so many comments that scream insecurity when talking about China lately. We are truly in the coping era of Americans.
I'm not sure if i should find it funny. The denial is having negative consequences.
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 No.489105

>>489104
>The denial is having negative consequences
On the contrary. When the enemy believes their own lies it's an advantage for communists.
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 No.489176

>>489105
>On the contrary. When the enemy believes their own lies it's an advantage for communists.
In general, yes, but in this case ?
China likely has already eclipsed the US in terms of overall power by some considerable margin. If the US tries to antagonize them in a serious way it'll get very rough. How do you suppose that can be exploited for advantage ?
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 No.491282

China's Victory Day parade kicks off with a massive display of weaponry and Xi, Putin, and Kim standing shoulder to shoulder, per Bloomberg.

Xi said the world is at a crossroads of peace or war.

- Unusual Whales
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1963104322646126700
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 No.491283

China unveils latest missiles, weapons at 2025 Victory Day Parade
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 No.491297

Pretty weird seeing a Dengist wear Mao's old gray suit.
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 No.491298

>>491297
Is he a Dengist?
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 No.491676

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I typed "China" into YouTube (Invidious) search just to see what would show up first.
Unsurprisingly it's mostly obnoxious propaganda but our boy China Uncensored is back today with this absolute thumbnail.
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 No.491677

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>>491676
i thought he retired
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 No.491692

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>>491676
CHAIRMAN XI PLEASE FUCKING DO IT, PLEASE NUKE TEL AVIV
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 No.491712

Is it a dangerous time for Americans to move to China to teach English? If there's war, would we be able to get refugee status or would we simply be deported?
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 No.495050

Where can I read (in English preferably) the entire fifteenth five year plan that the Communist Party of China put out for the Fourth session of the 14th National People's Congress

I can't even find the draft, supposedly it was submitted on March 5th - https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202603/05/content_WS69a8fd53c6d00ca5f9a098c2.html
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 No.495051

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All I found was this
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 No.495053

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I also found the recommendations

<Recommendations of the Central Committee of

the Communist Party of China for Formulating the 15th Five-
Year Plan for
National Economic and Social Development
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 No.495449

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Democratic_Self-Government_League
>Taiwan Democratic Self-Government League
<Ideology:
< Chinese unification
< Anti–Taiwan independence
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 No.495456

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crosspost from nukechan
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 No.495465

>>495456
What is this baffling toon supposed to be saying?
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 No.495466

>>495465
This was during the First United Front, where the CPC and Kuomintang were allied. It's alleging the KMT of being a trojan horse for GOMMIES! to kill everyone.
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 No.495467

>>495466
And for some reason the author thinks the KMT all wore official Qing government uniforms.
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 No.495468

>>495466
Amazing that right-wing cartoons have been this incoherent for this long.

Kinda like the art though, especially that Chinese building with the moon behind it.
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 No.496191

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https://x.com/BowesChay/status/2052356408440418314
2 former Chinese defence ministers, Wei Fenghe and Li Shangfu, are sentenced to death with a 2-year reprieve on corruption charges.

Their sentences will be reduced to life imprisonment after 2 years, with no parole or further reductions.
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 No.496408

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Xi ‘explained’ to Trump ‘concept of harmony among all beings’: Foreign Ministry
China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning has posted an image of the Chinese and US leaders during a visit to the Hall of Prayer for Good Harvests at Beijing’s Temple of Heaven on Thursday, where Xi “explained for President Trump and his family the concept of harmony among all beings and respect for the law of nature”.

Trump is currently in Beijing on the third day of his state visit to China.

https://aje.news/2nji40?update=4574034
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 No.496423

>>496408
how do you break up this ultrareactionary chinese bullshit?
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 No.496426

>>496423
Respect the law of nature, anon.
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 No.498181

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We should really be reading Chinese Marxists way more, I think this analysis is on point and insightful. More so than anything I've read from westerners.
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 No.498182

>>498181
China has actual Marxists? I thought they simply called everything political "Marxism" while they filled up their universities with Western neoliberals.
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 No.498183

>>498182
Well yeah a country that runs on marxism lennenism as its foundation will have marxist thinkers the party relies on for strategy… not sure why you think otherwise.
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 No.498194

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>>498183
I see what you did there.
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 No.498268

>>498182
Chinese marxism = western neoliberalism with some confucian dressing
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 No.498302

>>498268
Unironically true
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 No.498307

>>498268
>>498302
Absolute nonsense.
The Russian Federation of today isn't even neoliberal, and it's closer to neoliberalism than China is. Neoliberal capitalism isn't a planned economy based around domestic industrial production where profits are invested in increasingly massive public projects.
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 No.498320

>>498307
Correct, China is most directly comparable to the kind of capitalism practice by the German Empire in the 19th century. It is a fact that they keep hiring neoliberal worms to staff their university economics departments though.
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 No.498401

>>498307
>planned economy
there's no planned economy, retard. it's a 100% market driven economy
>domestic industrial production
the first thing dengists did was destroying their native domestic industry, in order to import foreign capital. see manchuria.
>profits are invested in increasingly massive public projects.
waste and corruption, zhonggua
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 No.498404

>>498401
You're literally just lying.
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 No.498458

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