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Dimitry Glukhovsky is a turbo lib who portrays nazis and communists as the same kind of misguided individuals blinded by ideology (muh both sides) while the hansa liberals prosper because of their """apolitical""" pragmatism.
I feel kind of ashamed of owning the metro 2033 book from back when I believed in european liberalism.
I remember a specially cringe section of the book where there was an anomaly in the red star of the Kremlin and if you looked directly at it you would get mesmerized and end up getting killed. So subtle lmao.

huh, I thought the metro games were good, I mean Red Line = The Literal Fourth Riech is BS, but, huh

>>3133
you missed the environmental storytelling my dude. it's ok, I'll explain it to you.

the bunker was never finished. there is no soviet government, they're probably dead. those dudes in Yamantau passing for the soviet government are the workers building the bunker. they had to resort to cannibalism because they've got no food left. they use the "we're the soviet government" lie to attract people since they desperately women (lol, there were only male workers) and food (more people = more food)

>>3152
source: multiple notes you find in-game, btw, I'm not making it up

>>3152
I do know that but that still doesn't deny that the scene is a weak political statement. It doesn't matter what the lore is because the image that was created in that level leaves the foremost impression and that most people see and the image is what I described in the post and the image was deliberately created. There was even a controversy about it and the baron arc in the russian web. The writing on the wall says "It was you, bastard, who drank away the country". https://dtf.ru/games/41204-politika-v-metro-exodus-ne-rusofobiya-a-bezzubaya-kritika-rossiyskoy-vlasti

Not even one third into the game and I've already found the ultimate weapon.

Metro is probably the most fanatically anti-communist series there is. Not going to lie. Less so the books, which I haven't read in a decade, but the video games, especially Last Light could have been written by Anne Applebaum and Henry Kissinger for all we know.

Keep in mind that Last Light is a game where Nazis perform cranial inspections in a concentration camp, and still manages to make the Red Line the most morally reprehensible faction.

Funny enough, at times they couldn't even manage to present their anti-communism properly. All throughout the series, we're told the standard liberal BS about commie soldiers soldiers being more poorly trained than the Nazis, using human wave tactics, no food BS - until the second half of Last Light, where you have to fight their soldiers equipped with the most mall ninja shit you'll ever see, with laser sights, NVG, waves and waves of dudes in full metal armor, equipped with shit like miniguns and flamethrowers. Even their army possessing a running train and tanks, both of which are supposed to be extremely rare in this universe, but alas, even when the protagonist and his faction LOSES to the commies in a surprise attack, he's given the option of going full fucking ALLAH AKBAR to destroy himself, along with several hundred-thousandish healthy able men in a post-apocalypse universe

Ukrainians are absolutely fucking wild man.

>>3159
The game isn't exactly subtle that its not the real Russian government in the bunker. Environmental storytelling is probably too far a word for leaving things on the critical path that explicitly say "oh no the government never arrived and the bunker was never finished then we all caught kuru". But you missed the actual remnant of the Russian government in Moscow that was shown at the start of the game to be keeping Moscow under wraps out of fear of the NATO strike. Pretty much every other remnant is shown to have either been killed or disintegrated.

>>3173
Is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. anti-communist though? They were the same devs I think?

>>3187
originally STALKER and Metro were one dev team working on only STALKER, then the team split over creative disagreements, one going on to make STALKER and the other Metro.
STALKER doesn't really touch too heavily on politics beyond interpreting Duty and Freedom as an extension of politics somehow. Most of the stalkers there are usually poor men who are trying to make it by in the capitalist economy of the post-USSR Ukraine and other post-Soviet states, and there is a nostalgic element built into the soivet era, but not really explicit commentary on communism.

>>3189
Adding to this Duty and Freedom's politics have parallels to the real world but there's no endorsement of either, and the ideology instead revolves around their attitudes to anomalies and the zone and what's to be done about them, the parallels come from these attitudes rather than the ideology being inserted in for flavour or whatever.

>>3194
>but there's no endorsement of either
Metro is pretty much the same, its just far more cynical with everyone being portrayed as bad with the exception of Polis which is a city state. Despite all of the focus on the Reich and the Red Line when Hanza (the capitalists) are shown they are still depicted as corrupt, heartless and opportunist.

>>3197
Red Line was definitely portrayed as much more loathsome and disguisting than even the fascists.

>>3198
dafuq did the red line do?

>>3199
They infected a station with a virus then set them all on fire

>>3198
the reichs whole thing in last light is that they are pathetic and ineffective at anything except killing their people. Its just this hyper cynical view that had to have a bad guy. the depiction of the reich and red line barely holds between 2033 and last light. then exodus comes along and reveals that all of their evildoing was actually being orchestrated by the invisible watchers.

>>3133
>>3152
>>3159
Exodus seems to be an adaptation of this book, even if not officially https://metrovideogame.fandom.com/wiki/Towards_the_Light_(Novel)
It's basically about a group of stalkers from the Petersburg metro going out to the surface to investigate a strange light coming from Kronstadt. A member of a weird religion called "Exodus" also joins them who claims that the light is actually the sign of the Ark which will bring you to paradise. Well, the "Ark" actually exists (a ship which survived the bombing on the sea and people actually live like they lived before the war), but it has nothing to do with the cultists who are just trying to lure people to Kronstadt so they can eat them and they are also the descendants of high ranking military officers/government officials who hid in a bunker and at first devoured the workers hired for renovating the place.

Lmao imagine paying attention to the fucking story.

You only play metro for the qt3.14 waifu and nothing else.

>>3239
She's cringe.

>>3248
if you keep badmouthing my wife I'm going to dox you

>>3252
Doxx deez nuts gay boy

>>3248
still got arty to clap those cheeks on the train

>>3144
Lol I forgot about that.
Also the classic "red brigade" expedition: The people of the central committee are revisionists but they five weapons to us to keep fighting.
Kek, 7 years since I read that book.

>>3173
Seriously? I thought Metro was just post-soviet nuclear LARP?

>>3896
its horrible dude, i got them to do post-soviet larp, but instead i got "muh reds developed le ebil truth serum"

>>3905
well that just sucks ass. How about S.T.A.L.K.E.R.? is it the same anti-sovietism?

>>3908
STALKER doesn't care a whole lot about politics external to the game

>>3908
Stalker doesn't give anything like a shit about politics, Duty and Freedom seem to be some weird Communist/Anarchist thing on steroids but it has almost nothing to do with real world politics and more to do with their views on the zone and how it should be dealt with

World outside the zone is supposed to be our world but a little nicer due to the progress and random bits of super high nigh inexplicable technology and medicines derived from stuff pulled out of the zone but slightly worried about the slowly expanding circle of unreality, but you never hear about it other than odd bits of flavour text and the books

Any Stalker born after 1986 cant't into politics. All they know is The Bar, case they Gravi, squat, be prison homosexual, eat tushonka and die.

>>3202
>The invisible watchers.
It's de joos guys, mon diu, metro it's secretly ukranian fashu desu.

>>3911
I assume STALKERs external politics to be almost identical to those of Roadside Picnic which it is based on.

Do you think a movie for Metro or STALKER will get made?

>>3923
>secretly ukranian fashu
Is this supposed to be sarcasm or unironic?

interesting article related to the whole Soviet aesthetic thing in vidya https://archive.is/cM6bw

>>4814
thanks for sharing. I find it weird though that they said that Russian setting is not common. It seems like a lot of modern games are picking up the post-Soviet aesthetic… PUBG, COD Warzone, Escape from Tarkov. I guess it all started with ARMA 2 and DayZ, but at the same time that was probably influenced by STALKER and Metro.

>>3910

Isn’t Freedom supposed to be kind of Anarchist?

>>5446
Yes and like all good Anarchist organizations it is secretly funded and controlled by Western intelligence agencies hence why all their weapons are top of the line NATO mainstream :^)