Hawking was on the, uh… "lists" before all this. Like, the flight logs iirc had him in it when they were released years ago, if not those then the black book.
It's a bad thing, although I think it's suspect that almost everything I see about this is dumb "memey" posts about Hawking. You know, of course people focus on the dead crippled genius and not the multiple living ex-presidents, princes, politicians, current presidents, sick rich fucks, etc. How convenient that people only talk about Hawking!
>>151490>>151475You know, looking over how this came up… it seems like it was a pretty awkward topical pivot, but I don't respect this thread much to begin with, so I'll entertain it.
I really do think this hyper-reactive use of "pedophile" is bizarre. I understand that, a decade-or-two-ago, it was just the go-to term for torches-and-pitchforks people, but not everybody has to be full retard
all the time. It seems insane to me that people who claim to take the accusation seriously
at all would insist upon just ignoring the definitive role puberty has in making
pedophilia what it is - like seeing people use it, not even just in relation to arbitrary regional laws, but even very
insistently in relation to any age gap
in general is baffling. They genuinely just expect to use the term without any regard for what makes it uniquely bad and act like it's some kind of
moral stance, like just being willfully ignorant of why a child who hasn't hit puberty yet
does not have the physical capacity to understand sex and consent is something they're proud of. It's obtuse and fucking stupid and it displays an incredible naivety about how prepubescent children process sexual abuse.
Likewise, it's bizarre how people act as though the label
needs to be applied to any case of rape committed against teenagers. Like, even if Epstein only trafficked underaged girls and raped them and had other guys rape them for power and profit… that's an incredibly heinous fucking crime whether or not it happened to pre-pubescent kids. You don't need
pedophilia to make it bad, he was a fucking evil rapist and the people who raped with him and
knew what he was doing and allowed it to keep happening need to be brought to justice; they are monsters, and they need to be stopped or they will keep raping teenage girls.
Fwiw, though, Epstein was also accused of raping/trafficking girls as young as 11. I'm leaning towards that being true! Iirc his only convictions were for 14+ y/o girls, but he probably was also either a genuine pedophile or
at least servicing pedophiles, I'm not interested in splitting hairs over 11. If this one thing wasn't true (and I'm leaning towards it being true!), that wouldn't make Epstein and Maxwell
not monsters.