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 No.152014

Drawn porn is ok.
Since this discussion is spilling into other threads I am going to creat this thread.
Lolo and other drawn pornography are ok.
Lolicon and gusto and other forms of drawn porn people find disturbing is perfectly morally acceptable as nothing being depected is actually real.
If you think that people should diemtor jerking off to loli or whatever drawn cartoon pornography you're a fascist. It's that simple. Really.
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 No.152015

>>152014
lol ok vaush
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 No.152016

>>152015
That's actually what Inspired me to make this thread. But, thanks for proving my point retard. Vaush isma dumb faggot. But, the amount of shit he is catching over something so trie is exactly why the left is never going to overcome the forces of our current historical epoch; capital.
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 No.152017

>>152016
>catching over something so trie
The reason he is "catching shit" is because he jacks off to drawings of horse cock, which a bit beyond just jacking off to drawings of children.
>why the left is never going to overcome … capital
How is being a pedophile going to help empower workers?
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 No.152018

>>152014

why are you a pedo. drawn pictures of little kids are still pictures of little kids.
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 No.152019

>>152017
>OOOO OH NO BRO CARTOONS NOT LITERAL CARTOONS

This happens every time you have this conversation with anyone of you retards. You just detail away from the fact that it isn't real to justify your moral grandstanding about wanting to literally genocide people over shit that isn't real. Go fuck yourself you brainless maggot.

>>152018
I'm not into loli but it isn't illegal to be a pedophile more is it illegal to jerk off to lolicon so cope fag. You people are the dumbest lowest autism score mongrels alive.
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 No.152020

If you jerk off to AI generated content of cp then you are in fact a pedo. lolis i'm not sure but i'm leaning towards you are also a pedo.
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 No.152021

>>152020
I mean. Even if you are a pedo that isn't what op was saying. Ether you're a pedo or not has nothing to do with it.
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 No.152022

>>152019
There is considerable overlap between "cute and funny enjoyers" and actual pedophiles who seek child pornography, I didn't believe so before but it gets pretty apparant after a while. Go to any lolicon community and ask the mods how frequently they have to ban users for trying to trade cp

It may be "just a drawin' bro" to (You) but you are still jacking off to what is very clearly supposed to be a depiction of a child.
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 No.152023

Lol at the typical kneejerk accusations of pedophilia.

Yet nobody gets upset about cartoon furries or slasher video games.
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 No.152024

>>152022
ok so if I jack off to rape pron does that nake me a sociopath?

Or if I jack off to scat or vomit in cartoon form does that make me a degenerate?
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 No.152027

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>>152024
yeah
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 No.152028

>>152024
I'm just speaking from what I've observed from working with the admins of such places. As to why pedophiles like drawn images of little girls? Who knows, one of the mysteries of the world.
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 No.152029

>>152022
>It might just be a video game to you bro but you're still killing what is the actual depiction ofma hooker

God you fags are so lame. Go join the church you fucking protestant.
You also have no actual evidence of proof for anything you saidmother than "bro go to fbi.gov bro."

That isn't a valid form of evidence, kek.
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 No.152031

>>152028
Because it's an outlet for the sexual desires that doesn't involve breaking the law getting thrown in jail and getting murdered on prison.
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 No.152032

>>152028
most lolicon enjoyers are not pedophiles. Believe it or not, most are self inserting their childhood selves into the porn.

Its no different from tentacles or antropomorphic animals in cartoon porn.
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 No.152034

>>152032
so they're troons? that's almost worse since they actually do mutilate children
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 No.152035

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>>152031
IT'S NORMAL, OKAY?
IF I DIDN'T HAVE THIS THEN WHO KNOWS? MAYBE I WOULD RAPE KIDS!
I mean no I can be trusted in society but…
I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE OR ELSE PEDOPHILES WILL RAPE KIDS
And no there's no connection between lolis and pedos!
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 No.152036

>>152014
>Lolicon and gusto and other forms of drawn porn people find disturbing is perfectly morally acceptable as nothing being depected is actually real.
It's illegal because it makes normies, especially parents, violently upset. It's not illegal because legislating specific patterns on photons makes any kind of logical sense.
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 No.152037

>>152036
pedo idealist obscurantism. How did the photons get there uighur? By exploiting children.
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 No.152038

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>>152029
You want some evidence? I can't give much but here's a redacted conversation regarding a former lolicon server mod being found in csam chatrooms.
>inb4 fake

I'm not saying that all lolicons are pedophiles, as you disingenuously try to imply, however there is clear overlap in the two groups. (homework: google "per capita")
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 No.152039

>>152034
>muh troons

Actually no.
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 No.152040

>>152035
>>152035
You appear to be seething at information that conflicts with your moralistic dogma.
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 No.152041

>>152038
>This one screen shot of a fbi.gov is scientific proof that people who like loli are child rapist.
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 No.152042

>>152041
not a d*scord screenshot you newfag
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 No.152043

>>152042
It doesn't matter what it is it's all the same, You're just dumb.
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 No.152044

>>152043
>says the esl that can't into grammar
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 No.152045

>>152014
fr tho why can't you discuss your sexual shit on another imageboard? Like fr
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 No.152048

>>152045
fr uygha like dats what GETchan fo uygha on god
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 No.152049

>>152045
Why can't we discuss it here?
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 No.152055

dude just chill, let social osmosis do its thing, than to argue with retards, take a fap to some loli hentai

it's already HERE, they can't stop it, sexually repressed faggots don't have any initiative

just wait until they naturally die off - their children will be fapping to lolicon
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 No.152057

>>152055
I mean it isn't really about me personally liking loli, I don't. But it's more the insanity or moral purity in our society.
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 No.152064

>>152057


Its moral hysteria
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 No.152067

>>152064
Yeah exactly.
They don't care that lolicon actually helps chomos keep it to themselves and away from vulnerable children because they just want to feel morally superior and equal to their peers.
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 No.152069

No porn is ok in any context, it's over for you. Kill yourself immediately.
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 No.152073

>>152067
I honestly prefer porn to rela life humans regardless of age because with porn youre imposing your desires onto a two dimesntional object that uses lines/pixels and color gradients.


Its a shame that society lookds down on 2D enthusiasm as loserdom.

People whom pursue in meatspace iften end up with physical, hygenic, financial, and emotional trauma.
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 No.152074

>>152069
THIS. Let's make leftychan a space that your abuela can browse!
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 No.152075

>>152069
Porn is fine. What are you some time of Victorian Puritan? Trying to choke down Kellogg's to prevent masturbation? There's nothing wrong with porn in a limited context.
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 No.152077

>>152075
t. circumcised bezos boy
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 No.152080

>>152069
>ewww porn


Good luck with IRL sexual relations.
Nothing but STDs, emotiobal baggage, etc.

Porn is much safer.
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 No.152082

>>152080
lol grow up faggot. you have to suffer to get any reward
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 No.152083

>>152082
>no gain no gain
>as iron sharpens iron


Mot all rewards require needless suffering.

Trying to secure a trade is a worthy journey of suffering.

Romantic love is optional, not essential for living.
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 No.152084

>>152082
Romantic love is oversold as an automatic maturity license.
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 No.152111

>>152077
I've had sex at least 50 times in the last 3 years. What about you buddy?
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 No.152112

>>152111
ok but what's your partner count? I've done that easily in one year with a steady relationship so that's pretty trivial but if you're telling me that you had 50 different partners you're a chad or gay. It still won't grow your foreskin back
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 No.152113

>>152112
I've had hundredsnof thousands of parents. You don't know who you're talking to, pal.
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 No.152116

>>152113
You had dozens of parents impart their genetic material to give birth to you?


It must be cool to have more than two parents.
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 No.152119

>>152116
no it's more simple and sad. he came from a broken home and his father had no self esteem so after he divorced his wife he would bring many men home: many "fathers". This traumatized anon into deviancy and caused him to adopt the same lifestyle having sex 50 that's right 50 times in three years all with different men.
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 No.152132

>>152037
>pedo idealist obscurantism. How did the photons get there uighur? By exploiting children.
Photos and videos depicting other crimes are not illegal. It's also a fallacy to say that every child who poses naked has been exploited or abused or harmed in someway. It's illegal because it makes you upset. That's all there is to it.

And you're on leftchan so you're obviously not going to argue that disney has a right to throw you in jail because any collection of photons which resembles micky mouse is their literal property that you have stolen or some nonsense.

Moral rules have to be universal and this principle can't be universalized at all.
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 No.152138

>>152132
No. This is dumb because the few situations where sexualization of children can not be counted "bathtub photos" that parents take of their children are the exception not the rule. Taking photos of children naked is illegal because it causes trauma to the children who are taken advantage of more often than not that's why it's illegal not because of some vague sense of morality but because it actually effects individual lives. So it's still over all illegal even if taking pictures of your children int he bath tub isn't necessarily immoral. You're missing the forest for the trees, but, irl csam and lolicon are two different things so this has nothing to do with the convo anyway.
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 No.152139

>>152132
absolute jewish nigger and living proof of the points made in this thread. Lolicons need to be institutionalized
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 No.152142

>>152037
Cartoon porn doesnt involve exploiting people.
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 No.152143

>>152139
lol. If you looked up cherry picking in the dictionary this would be the post you would see next to it.
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 No.152144

>>152142
that's not what >>152132 is talking about you stupid faggot. read the thread
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 No.152145

>>152138
>Taking photos of children naked is illegal because it causes trauma to the children
Except many of them keep modelling well into adulthood. They're even have twitter accounts advertising their onlyfans, you can ask them yourself how "traumatized" they are. Your argument that all children are automatically traumatized doesn't hold up to reality.

And if it is all about trauma then what about adults who are raped or coerced into pornography? Why are images and videos of that not illegal.

>You're missing the forest for the trees, but, irl csam and lolicon are two different things so this has nothing to do with the convo anyway.
Yes I know you want to emphasize that lolicon is totally different because you think that makes you safe. Except it doesn't. The law treats 2d and 3d the same because it is not about protecting children it is about persecuting a marginalized class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_child_pornography
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 No.152146

>>152143
kek this mongolian basket weaving forum of 2pph is drawing pedos out of the woodwork with just one thread. This isn't cherry picking this is a census. There's 22 people in this thread and at least one pedo with several suspects in my book.
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 No.152147

>>152145
keep coping there's a reason why even capitalists have implemented voidable contracts for minors
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 No.152154

>>152146
Ok m00dy time to take your meds now.
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 No.152155

>>152145
Retard the reason they are doing only fans is specifically part of them being traumatized, lmao.

God fucking kill yourself low autism score pedo retard.

>Yes I know you want to emphasize that lolicon is totally different because you think that makes you safe. Except it doesn't. The law treats 2d and 3d the same because it is not about protecting children it is about persecuting a marginalized class.

Lolicon is protected in the united states under the right ot free speech and this has been tried several times in the supreme court.

Also I am not into lolicon.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/is-loli-illegal-in-the-united-states/


the biggest retards are always the loudest and stupidest.
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 No.152170

I wish all lolicon users a terrible day, I hope you will one day seek help for your sexual proclivities. It will never be okay to be attracted to children fictional or not.
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 No.152175

>>152170
keep coping.
lolicon and shota are not equivalent to real life.
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 No.152177

what about incest?
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 No.152178

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>>152177
I don't know nikolai alexandorvich romanov: what about it? Also, unrelated, how's your son's health?
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 No.152180

>>152155
>Retard the reason they are doing only fans is specifically part of them being traumatized, lmao.
<if they stop that means they're traumatized
<if they keep going that means they're traumatized
If your hypothesis is not falsifiable then it's not a hypothesis it's just something you desperately want to be true.

>God fucking kill yourself low autism score pedo retard.
Not an argument. Also just proving my point this is not about facts and logic it's about feelings. You hate pedos because want a marginalized class that it is "ok" to shit on with no repercussions. If you were alive 50 years ago you would have been the biggest gay basher in the village.

>Lolicon is protected in the united states under the right ot free speech and this has been tried several times in the supreme court.
If it was "tried several times" then clearly they ""want"" lolicon to be illegal they just can't get it passed the 1st amendment. Meanwhile it is illegal basically everywhere else.

>Also I am not into lolicon.
Of course not. The biggest gay bashers are never secretly gay. That never happens.
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 No.152181

>>152180
idk why lolicon is morally obsessed over when we have live action pornographic exploitation of pet animals for bestiality or adults for scat videos.


Also, people want fictional children to be victims of gore or corporal punishmemt in horror or adult comedy.
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 No.152182

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>>152181
Vaush deflection. Just because other stuff is bad doesn't mean that the original thing is less bad. Pornography, Sex, and Marriage are all permanently tainted by capitalist perversion of incentives. If there is to be pornography in a socialist country, that is to say that the people demand it from their government, it will be recorded or I suppose drawn by hobbyists and depict only consensual relationships between adult humans and portray the positivity of increasing the birth rate. This is in conjunction with the positive use of pornography when deployed by the Soviet Union to increase adult literacy.
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 No.152184

>>152175
your sexual desires are for children and/or their bodies, this is enough to warrant condemnation.
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 No.152188

>>152184
Again people can like lolicon and not want to fuck children. You people are so childish to keep ignoring this fact. Not to mention that even if it were true again it is not against the law to be a pedophile it's against the law most sexually assault children.
Your moral faggotry just ends up getting more kids hurt and this has been proven statistically.

>>152182
This is such a gay restricted understanding of pornography and sex I hope this never happens and you are a fag for thinking this is even remotely necessary. The point of role play and pornography is not to be safe.
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 No.152189

>>152188
t. incel tourist coomer who has never read Engels
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 No.152190

>>152184
Then, the people who watch horror movies and play shooter games are bloodlusters.
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 No.152191

>>152190
Video games, though degenerate, give you the opportunity to be heroic. You're just raping kids in your head and feeling bad about it which is why you feel the need to convince everyone else you're not a disgusting faggot who should be forced to work on a rural farm
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 No.152192

when you get tired of this theme, I wanna see your debate arguments on incest
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 No.152193

>>152181
>idk why lolicon is morally obsessed over when we have live action porn
Anime is its own fetish. People who prefer 2d waifus over 3d pornstars will also choose lolicon over csam if they are pedos.

>>152188
>Again people can like lolicon and not want to fuck children.
Again lolicon is illegal too. So even if what you are saying is a real difference it is not a difference that matters to society.

>it is not against the law to be a pedophile it's against the law most sexually assault children
I agree with you that the only thing that should be illegal is sexual contact without the permission of the person. There is no rational basis for either drawings or photographs to be illegal. They are both illegal because they are proof that you are a pedo and society hates pedos.

>>152192
>when you get tired of this theme, I wanna see your debate arguments on incest
Incest is taboo because it increases the chances of defective babies. Especially before modern genetics when it was hard to predict what would happen and life in general was much less forgiving, that's when superstition and taboos get supercharged.

I don't know the actual science but I've been led to believe that risks are not actually that high. And it is very easy now to spot a defective baby and abort it early anyway.

I think there is an extra complication though that humans have evolved to be repulsed by the smell of people they grow up with as children. Which explains why most people find it "gross" to think about incest even without any social pressure. This is actually a little easter egg in yosuga no sora because the twins didn't actually grow up together they were separated and then reunited as teenagers.
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 No.152195

>>152191
>video games are degenerate but at least you can play the hero

The amount of copium in this statement is astronomical.
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 No.152196

>>152192
Incest is morally fine just as long as you don't procreate. Wrap it up or snip, snip.
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 No.152197

>>152189
>My lord and Savior Fredrick Engles can never be wrong. Blessed thy name
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 No.152202

>>152189
what did engels write in regards to this topic
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 No.152205

>>152202
he wrote against pedastry (I believe in letters) and expanded on bourgeois relationship dynamics in the origin of family private property and the state
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 No.152206

>>152205
Hating people for being who they are is smooth brained midwit shit. The issue is you retards conflate being a pedophile and child rape.

We should encourage pedos to seek help not drive them underground until their condition manifests into reality.
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 No.152212

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>>152206
lol the answer you degens don't want to hear is that you need to quit porn. If there was no porn and no child abuse, there would be no pedos and no homosexuals. Of course for many it is too late and for people who would take advantage of the most vulnerable instead of just exclusively fucking other adult men or whatever the best that can be done is a quarantine community like a collective farm. Homosexuals who aren't pedos or zoophiles can likely be integrated into normal society.
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 No.152213

>>152212
>homosexuality is comorbid with CSAM
>pedoohilia is caused by porn


The moral logic of imageboards never ceases to amaze.
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 No.152215

>>152213
no that's a spurious correlation both homosexuality and pedophilia are associated with being a victim sexual assault and pornography assumption. Obviously they can be co morbid but don't have to be which is why gays are ok
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 No.152217

>>152212
larping faggot
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 No.152218

>>152212
You realize not masturbating is directly correlated to prostate cancer right? You're just the inverse of ever porn addict like some straight edge teenager from the 1980s. Unlike your baseless ass assertions that gay people are pedophiles or that the two are linked in some way this is actually supported by science. Further more your fear mongering about people jerking off to loli is just that. Fear mongering. I'm not into loli but people shouldn't be persecuted for being into drawn imaginary images and thinking that doesn't make me one you. Might as well just put that brown coat on some can all see your true colors.
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 No.152219

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>>152218
>soyence says I need to cum, okay?
<NO I CAN'T DO IT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND YOU FASCIST!
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 No.152220

>>152219
Why should people need others for sexual fullfillment?
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 No.152223

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>>152220
not just that. It's having the capability to open up to someone else completely and work towards the common greater goal of raising a good family. Other than revolution which is pretty much just a means to this end it's the only thing worth doing tbqh. Even if you get divorced you'll still have your kids to reconnect with. What else are you going to do for ~60 years? Jack off and play vidya? Sad
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 No.152225

>>152223
breeder morally bankrupt faggot
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 No.152226

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>>152225
Tell me more, Malthus. Also remind me how anti-natalism is the real communist tendency
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 No.152227

>>152226
Malthus was a breeder retard just like you mouthbreathing faggot lol.

He couldn't even conceive of the idea that people would choose not to breed if given the choice.

what is it with red-brownoids all being fucking sub 50 autism score retards lol?
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 No.152228

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>>152227
kek you faggots can never answer that question so I'll ask again: what are you going to do for the rest of your life?
I'll answer for you. You're going to kill yourself. Next year. The year after. In a decade. It doesn't matter. One day you'll wake up and realize that it's too late for you to form any connections with other people. You'll realize all your friends are faggots just like you and have also missed any opportunity to be with someone else and raise a family. And just like that, you'll die like the genetic dead end freak you are screeching about "muh red browns" because you can't comprehend why someone else would desire to improve and preserve the world for future generations. Go outside now. Go to the gym. Stop masturbating. Stop playing video games. Start living. Time's ticking.
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 No.152230

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>>152228
>retard think breeding will protect him from suicidal thoughts
lmao

I can tell already you're a far more pitiful faggot than I will ever be.
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 No.152231

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>>152230
I hope you have your fun on the boards anon. I know you're not long for this world.
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 No.152236

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>>152219
>Science is don't like is 'soy'
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 No.152237

>>152223
Just because you, personally, desire a familial existence doesn't mean everyone does, or, should.
Everyone should be free to follow their own personal ideals and motives free of the intervention of others. It's a blessing, really, that puritanical retards like you are on the way out.
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 No.152238

>>152228
You literally know nothing about the people you are speaking to. This is absolutely, 100%, pure projection from a sad, pathetic, dejected, man who probably hasn't had anyting remotely close to sex in 5 years.

I work two jobs and am a union organizer at a factory, retard. I make six figures and just bought a sports car. You know what makes me different from you? I don't feel the need to base my existence around these fickle things and shit on people who are on different paths in life because I hate my life like you.
You are a pathetic looser, my guy.
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 No.152240

>>152223
Why do people like you think family making is the ultimate goal in life?

Romanticism of family life is exactly why we have so many dysfunctional people.

So many people marry and procreate and theyre miserable.

Also jacking off amd video games are not inherently bad.

Id rather do those than waste my desires on people.

You can have friemds amd family and not feel the need to have a romantic partner and offspring to feel.complete.

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