No.158631
In both situations you are stripped of your freedom and dignity. You are told exactly what you must do, and you are punished for failing to comply. Actually, in class society you must spend more time doing exactly what you are told to do than is true in adult prisons, so in that sense class society is worse than prison
talking to kids at school I thought I was odd for thinking that since no one else seemed to mind school as much as I did.There really isn't any personal benefit to schooling beyond middle school for most people. Almost no one does more than elementary math/reading/writing in their job. Why children also make very good laborers. Most labor doesn't involve that much skill or thinking.
But still worth maybe keeping a few years of school beyond elementary to teach critical thinking skills, which are sorely lacking in the USA, plus some basic computer skills, which are way more beneficial than almost everything you learn after elementary school.Not only is school prison I think real life has come to reflect the drab boringness of the prison construct. Every architectural design choice in modern society looks like it was hand crafted by the pixies ceos from the fairly odd parents so that's its as boring and unintrusive as possible. It's all just monotone boring colors next to Grey back drops. Just like prison.
But later I thought about the prison analogy again and it made even more sense: it's authoritarian, promotes individualism (no collaborating on assignments, that's CHEATING), uses negative reinforcement (punishment) to teach, and the whole thing is set up as obedience training for being a wage cuck later in life without really the option to leave.
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No.158645
>>158634Marx and Engels would disagree, though I guess they just didn't understand history…
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No.158647
>Why children also make very good laborers. Most labor doesn't involve that much skill or thinking.
Not really true.
Kids were taught how to cook, clean, fix and build.machinery and even use weapons.
That involves skill.
Nowadays, kids are blocked off from any sort of worldly affairs.
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No.158652
>>158645Only a fool would ever claim to truly understand what a dead man would an would not do, so….But none the less, To my knowedlge, Marx never wrote much on Rome and Ancient Athens. But, you must not be familiar with Marx because I am echoing his literal sentiment. He says this in das capital. Slaves need over head workers do not. He doesn't explain that it's "worse" than the other. To him that was irrelevant, but, as a matter of opinion. Yeah working class people have it worse than slaves at least from a systemic perspective.
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No.158653
>>158652Yeah Marx never says that life under capitalism is objectively worse or anything, but he does say things like the existence of a slave is guaranteed while a worker must sell himself daily and hourly.
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No.158667
>>158652Of course, I'm such a fool. There is no difference between the wage and the whip.
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No.158668
>>158652>But none the less, To my knowedlge, Marx never wrote much on Rome and Ancient Athens.Engels wrote about those though.
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No.158793
>>158668Marx's doctoral dissertation was about Ancient Greek philosophy.