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I've been reading this book on media regulation, Governing Babel. What do you guys think of social media moderation? What's acceptable and what isn't? Where's the crossover point from moderation to censorship?

>>159448
I can give you my personal thoughts on this.

At the bottom, of course you have obvious spam, advertisements, illegal content. Basic moderation is removing all of that, and it's usually 100% clear.

Then you have AI generated slop, botposts, basically anything automated designed to look like real posts. These are annoying but might have a pattern.

(spam is easier to deal with on sites that have accounts btw)

Anything from here on out is posted by a human and basically people have to engage with the post if they want to decide to report it, or in the case of moderators choose to delete or keep it. This is basically where it gets political, when mods have to actually consider the content of the post.

Was that person really a nazi or just asking questions? It's hard to tell good faith posts from bad ones, and it's not clear whether or not to keep bad faith posts: for example if a 14 year old edgelord posts something dumb about race, could this be an opportunity to educate people? If not the OP then other people that might see it?

Is socialists censoring pro-capitalist liberal rhetoric a good thing? I mean feds will quickly try to hijack any discourse, but if they aren't feds then explaining is probably better than censoring. It gets difficult here.

So minimally, you need a good faith moderation team, aligned with your values, that can dialectically apply a set of principles to the content.

But now let's talk about what silicon valley CIA backed megacorps are doing. I think a major strategy is using bots and shills to manufacture a fake public consensus. They have very targeted messaging (thought terminating cliches) and are designed to basically stop any leftist discourse in comment sections of reddit and tiktok and probably all the other major sites.

Real people pick up and parrot ruling class propaganda and help the bots, but the propaganda came first and is the driving force, obviously.

Not having a line of communication without propaganda is probably one of the main issues workers are facing that's stopping any organization. People ONLY use the internet to communicate now. Hardly anyone is meeting up regularly face to face anymore. So people are easier to program than ever.

I want to see a more structured approach to identifying current messaging and tactics used by feds and combating all of them. There's probably subtle ones, like the popularization of "it's not that deep bro", certainly being uncritical leads to reactionary thinking, but is that an unfortunate trend or a psyop? Who knows. It's not always as obvious as "communism doesn't work" and other red-scare shit, but if we look at social media and gain the ability to see the messaging that's being pushed, and head-on combat it or do the opposite of it, I think that would at minimum give the left a clear idea of what is actually harmful to the ruling class by their own secret admission.

I might get flak for this but I find it very suspicious when I run into posts like this one made on lemmygrad about the ACP:

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9946493
>They are Nazis who use the USSR as an aesthetic branding.
>[They] express support for nationalist and reactionary stances

This kind of drive-by slander is weird considering there are probably valid criticism of them that could lead to a productive discussion.

But like the claim that they aren't leftists makes me think the people saying this aren't leftists.

And comments seem to think that their rigid ideas of what the left is, is the only valid interpretation of Marxism.

So is this liberals misunderstanding dialectics and shooting left, or is this something more coordinated? Because I've seen in the random corners of the internet, and on tiktok, random comments saying similar things about how the ACP are reactionaries and nazis and refusing to elaborate.

Isn't it a material reality that a huge part of the proletariat in America is conservative? I don't even mean to stan the ACP much, but it is my personal opinion is that any messaging that might challenge the ruling class directly, in some way, that has a disproportionate reaction to it (be it to cancel it, slander it, accuse it of sexual offenses, being nazis, being russian bots you name it) might be worth paying more attention to it. Because for sure the ruling class will try to make people believe certain things are irrelevant to our interests when they aren't, and I think a clever left might jump on such things and amplify it to spread our own propaganda.

>>159452
here's another example from tiktok, it's bizzare