/b/ - Siberia

It's because of the fear-mongering around youth experimenting which adults are jealous of because they are no longer youthful, so they resent the youth and try to oppress them to try to feel better.

>>160631
This is especially becoming more apparent now

People act like anyone born after them don’t exist.
I see all the time how a lot of people leaving their twenties whenever they interact with someone born after their birth year act surprised that their juniors are now adults

Millennials and zoomers get offended by Gen Alpha not knowing or liking “classic” pop culture products.

>>160630
>What is up with society wanting to extend childhood nowadays?
Fear of wage slavery.

>>160633
Public schooling is far more troublesome than wage slavery
A lot of failed adults are often victims of public schooling

>>160634
I'm not talking about failed adults. I'm talking about why adults think fondly of childhood.

>>160635
Because pop culture fried their brains.

this totally has nothing to do with your favorite eceleb dating a teenager

>>160642
Nineteen is an adult.

What about what is up with material conditions not letting people become adult by getting their own housing nowadays?

>>160647
That’s part of what my OP is about

>>160630
You're victim blaming. Awkward and mediocre? What about stranger danger, pedophiles, sexual predators, serial killers, etc?

>>160657
Older people in general are awkward and mediocre but claim to be superior to the youth.

>>160657
I'm not victim blaming.
I also point out stranger danger and helicopter parents as part of the problem

>>160661
>stranger danger
is real and why do you look down on it when pedophiles really do go around kidnapping kids and sexually assaulting and killing them?

>>160662
Most cases of child abduction/molestation are often familiar adults.
Rarely strangers.

>>160663
Source?

>>160663
Are you denying that serial killers and child rapists exist?

>>160663
Why are you downplaying the serial killer epidemic?

>>160664
>>160665
>>160666

I’m not denying them but compared to the more common cases of familiar adults taking advantage of their charges, it’s outliers

>>160630
if it's not obvious this surge on infantile behaviour and mental gymnastics to justify it is a natural byproduct of a shit system collapsing under itself and reaching its final state in particular in unholy satans of amerikkka then it spreads like a memetic disease into the internetz where it infects other into being manchildren
like this shit acts a living organism that consists of info and retards and this organism has last attempts to keep it alive by making more manchildren and its not like some magical shit but rather a memetic entity that was born by capitalism in the age of information and upon entering the lastest (sounds retarded but it is what i would like to say) stage it convulses spews and lashes out in its agony yet stays alive
this very organism produced the fucking antiwork semantic which was the cause of rising manchildren and while i get that in the times when most murica employers especiually in urban areas are exploiters no fucking redditard antiworker is actually ready for DIY (see chaz for instance where those fuckers failed fucking everything about DIY being incompetent retards they are without any discipline or will) because the feeble yet wicked entity born by amerikkka ensured that BOTH wageslaves and antiworkers would benefit this entity greatly
this very defensive mechanism produced by this entity also prevents from any meaningful direct action no less than rightoid grifters, cryptos, any identity based schisms and special olympics, streikbrechers, pigs, etc as it dulls any fucking senses as it rewards the retardation akin to some kind of deity because its known one push and it fucking falls to its death
its fucking stripping any potential revolutionaries from political agency by denying their responsibility and no matter how rad you are etc etc you are a poseur and you are conditioned into thinking you are le silly little babby instead getting shit together. no fucking discipline no responsibility no bitches idk whats to say next
tbf thats fucking rise of manchildren is exactly why horizontality is not possible right someone even if its a group of ppl need to whip those fuckers into a form as much as i hate to admit it
once i fucking get sober i'll write somethin mora conherent

>>160674
small appendix on how the proccess goes
manchildren nourish fasc and instituations secure together heal and also there is this fucking thing that dying entity actively fights for its life utilizing everyone who participates in it

>>160674
That's hot. Is that Kitty Katswell?

>>160678
yup.
one of many childhood waifus that made me into a fur… toonophile
(i prefer cartoonish funny anthros rather than generic souless furry shit where everyone looks like a dog)

>>160674
in retrospective tbf i was not saying that horizontality is fully impossible as with enough vetting you can make sure no lazy fucking retards pass but i wont trust a redditor for instance

>>160663
The fuck this has been an established fact for decades. Look it up.

>>160679
Anon, spoiler NSFW stuff.
>fur… toonophile
It's okay to be a furry as long as you're not being cringe and annoying like SJWs or Trump supporters.
>generic souless furry shit where everyone looks like a dog
That makes sense. But it seems like some anthro cats in Western cartoons just look like regular women with cat ears (khe-khem, SWAT Cats, khe-khem).

>>160684 (me)
Also, "toonophilia" sounds like >>>/ent/9410 rather than what you've described.

>>160684
It doesn't have to be spoiled on /b/ read the rules.

>>160686
>It doesn't have to be spoiled on /b/
Hm. That's fair.

1. coming-of-age traditions were directly tied to economic status which is now more or less inaccessible
2. social media and postmodern politics means constant and omnipresent emotional manipulation in the least sophisticated and thus most readily producable way
3. junk products like funko pops and labubus that are oriented around cultivating a consumer identity to sell necessarily require marketing to those with enough wealth to buy them (adults)
4. postmodern (neoliberal, fundamentalist, etc) parties increasingly views their voters as wards (of the state) that are in need of proper guidance

>>160688
>tied to economic status which is now more or less inaccessible
How do we not live in neo-feudalism then?

>>160687
The sfw overboard is next to the overboard overboard.

>>160674
This totally misses the mark.
You’re describing aesthetic impressions of maturity.
I’m talking about actual autonomy for young people

>>160689
neofeudalism is a useful but deeply flawed way of describing it
capitalism can also be characterized as a transitional form between feudalism and something else (e.g. communism) though this is also a bit flawed for other reasons

we dont live in feudalism because you arent tied to the land, you enter into a formally equal contractual relationship with the people you work for, et cetera
we still live in feudalism because your freedom of movement is restricted by wealth and policies, your employer has the power to fire you and leave you jobless, et cetera
a lot of people are caught in between the two where you can move places and switch jobs freely but not without also paying a price that limits your freedom in other ways
how general this state of affairs is changes with the times
there is a sense in which you could say that the era of social democracy and fordism in the west was actually the era of peak capitalism, not the neoliberal one which is more of a regression

>>160688
i was thinking more about the causes i laid out here and i realized that it doesnt adequately explain the other side of the coin: the aggressive, omnipresent hostility and pathologization directed at actual youth
any ideas?

>>160761
Thats what my OP is about
The constant paternalistic fear of worldly awareness in youth.
Innocence is more a disciplinary affect than a natural biopsychological state of youth

>>160674
There seems to be a universal sentiment where adults are allowed to enjoy childrens media but children are not allowed to enjoy worldly media.

People freak bout kids getting interested in fashion or jewelry or stock marketing.
Society complain about kids being liabilities but then turn around and discourage them from autonomy.

>>160682
And it says you’re wrong. Most cases of child murder/abduction/rape are usually committed by familiar adults

>>160763
>There seems to be a universal sentiment where adults are allowed to enjoy childrens media but children are not allowed to enjoy worldly media.
I wouldn't say it's a universal sentiment, because otherwise superhero material (films, TV series, comics, games) wouldn't be called slop.

Furthermore watching anime, which is often shonen or whatever it is where the protagonist is a teenager or young adult, is also stigmatized and sometimes called slop.

>People freak bout kids getting interested in fashion
Many parents dress their kid up and criticize their fashion sense.
>stock marketing
Parents don't want to go broke.

>>160766
>I wouldn't say it's a universal sentiment, because otherwise superhero material (films, TV series, comics, games) wouldn't be called slop.

>Furthermore watching anime, which is often shonen or whatever it is where the protagonist is a teenager or young adult, is also stigmatized and sometimes called slop.

They’re stigmatized because they’re made for kids. But funnily enough, it’s accepted for late prime age adults to consume youth media for nostalgic purposes

>Many parents dress their kid up and criticize their fashion sense

Because parents see their kids as sentient dolls to nag and nitpick at. Especially ethnic parents.


>Parents don't want to go broke.

Maybe that’s why it’s should be okay for kids to learn about investing if they show and interest in it?
It was common place for boomer/Gen X kids to buy cheap stocks alongside their parents

>>160688
>junk products like funko pops and labubus
Why are funko pops and labubus looked down upon? Why are people not simply allowed to have a hobby?

>>160769
Society is resentful of young people having any ounce of gratification

>>160680
>muh redditors

As if though imageboard patrons are any better

>>160774
This. Various memes have made it back and forth. They are both tainted by Epstein-Maxwell.