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 No.2428

Life is meaningless and we are plauged by insignifigance.
We literally lvie, suffer, and die and all for no reason at all.
On top of this we are surrounded by idiots at any given point. In all aspects of our lives, but, mainily in positions of authority. Vestegies left over from a long dead era of civilization where man worshiped gods and fought for his own survival. Obviously, I do not take religion seriously and even the absurdist answer is a bit of a wet fart to me. Or the heninistic approach. None of it appeals tro me. No matter what I do I seem to be over come with a vast and incurable meloncolly at any give time due to the constant and endless realization of this epiphany.
I feel like it's driving me mad some times. I think I am crazy to some degree, maybe bi-polar. I am starting to experience short vivid hallucinations which I believe may be the begining onset of skitophrenia, or, some type of Alzheimers. I will randomly see black spots track out of the corner of my eye in the room. Like a black non existent void coming from no where.
I heard my first voice two days ago at work. It called out my name in the break room. Clear as day. I turned to see if it was my co-worker who was behind me, but, he was doing his own thing.
I believe this insanity is partially due to this constantly exetential terror that I experience. My realtionships that were most meaningful to me as well are all but dried up. The friends I have are good but my most meaningful relationships are all dead and, as I said, the few friends I know currently will be gone too. How do you cope with this and why? What is your philopsphy for this mundane trepidatious reality?

I feel like I'll either go insane at this point or killmyself.
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 No.2429

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Hey, sorry to hear you're going through this. I kinda know the feeling of being both very dedicated to the cause of a better world, but also disheartened and feeling like the world, my personal life and mental health were deteriorating.
I'll try to make this as compressive and short as possible, starting with the big picture and ending with the fine practical details.

Honestly, the best solution to some degree is a change. A change of scenery. America/Muh Britain is a mental health nightmare, and there is a vast spiritual poverty that comes with the material wealth.
But other changes would probably help, especially if they went along with a change of scenery.

>You mentioned philosophy.


Stoicism is ok, but I find the flatline of emotion pretty deadening as well. Obviously, the opposite, moving whichever way whim and emotional dictate, isn't the answer either.
I know it's cheesy, but a sort of optimism and growth mindset is incredibly important: acting in a way that assumes things we encounter are opportunities for overcoming rather than roadblocks or obstructions, embracing challenge to become better or more refined in whicher direction you decide.
Having a purpose and meaning is hugely important, but we overlook that facing change and difficulty is a key part of purpose and meaning, since it gives purpose and meaning something to be tested against.

On one hand, people on the far left (communists and anarchists) start out with a strong purpose and meaning. But their purpose and meaning is so pie in the sky (total rearrangement of everything under heaven, so to speak) that they naturally grow disillusioned.

On the other hand, the modern world sort of broadly robs people of the opportunity for meaningful struggle. Traditional value systems that everyone sort of believed in became uprooted, yet everything has become domesticated and safety regulated, all while arenas of competition grew to a global scale and thus opportunities for even minor success shrank. This kinda represents the social kindling of the widespread existential crisis today.

So what to do about it. You mentioned absurdism as a wet fart. I agree when it's a sad internet meme. Victor Frankl certainly disagreed with Camus all around.
But if life is meaningless and the task is to simply enjoy it, it begs the question of what sort of preconditions would make this possible. What would you have to actually do to enjoy the meaningless unending suffering of life? What kind of life would you need? And what sort of person would you need to become?
The simple answer is feeling victorious, i.e., creating and confronting various challenges and walking away feeling victorious rather than defeated. That is to say pursuing, to some degree, a feeling of accomplishment. It could be for anything - gaining skills is a wonderful one, so long as it's something that interests and tests you physically or intellectually. Similarly, as important as a to-do list, is a to-be. What sort of person, quality wise, would you be happy and feeling accomplished as. Artful? Descisive? Empathetic? Strong? Etc. It's sometimes worth making that list and working off that.
You can pick values and more importantly goals that reflect them.

One of the things that's so toxic about blackpillers is that they believe the most disempowering bullshit ever. They think their fate is sealed and they will only be met with negative outcomes with women. Even most guys, being raised as fags - constantly seek permission. In reality, it much more better, to assume things will go right and just being sensitive to avoiding creating red light situations. (Then refine later) Of course, it helps if you are 'set up' with a decent physique (attainable) and better than average hygiene.

Now apply this to life in general. Regardless of 'the muhreality of meaninglessness, it's simply better and more advantageous even to apply that latter white pill mentality to everything.

Of course, you have to start small. (From lower form to higher, if you want to be spregy Marxist about it) Your challenges/goals here shouldn't be something too unrealistic or grandiose, but it can be supported by values and transcendent goals. They should be personal, something you can manage to effect and see demonstrable outcomes in your own life and character. Learning something ranging from coding to boxing, improving a pet project like a website (hint hint), getting jacked and juicy, or fucking a bunch of qts - whatever rocks you boat. But to that end, stacking small mental 'wins' and taking that growth mindset can go a long way into feeling better generally.
It's Peterson-esque, but there is truth to bio chemistry and the the social serotonin response, which is associated with a general sense of well being. An easy way to 'hack' this is a practice of gratitude (consciously naming 3 things you're grateful for, usually in the morning or evening). It literally takes 10 seconds every day but is pretty powerful.

Like a mentioned, scenery something's needs changed. Sometimes that includes people who are mentally or otherwise pulling us down into a crab bucket. Distance yourself from them asap and obviously.

Plants. Indoor in pollution is real. Plants are a cheap solution which have also been shown in studies to improve mood.

Finally, there's a basic physiological aspect of mental health. Sleep is a big one. Obviously, sometimes you have to grind, but it's hard to maintain sanity outside of your 20s on 6 hours of sleep every day.

There are several vitamins and nutrients that are associated with mood and mental health. Some that come to mind are vitamin d, vitamin c, zinc and folate. If you're plant based, it's necessary necessary to get B12. Carnitine and creatine probably wouldn't hurt either. Obviously, reduce/excise fast food and most processed food if possible. Seed oils and mystery margarine are kinda gross. Olive, coconut are my go to.
Personally, I think exercise is hugely important. I'd be depressed if I was fat and wasn't exercising. In that case, in a way, maybe the depression is trying to tell you something. Don't underestimate the physical mind body connection when it comes to mental health. Luckily, it's also nearly impossible to 'feel depressed ' 3/4 the way through a 10k jog.

I hope that kinda helps.

Finally, given all of the above, I think there's also an egotist argument for why you shouldn't kill yourself. If that happens after this effortpost, it would mean I wasted my time and failed.
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 No.2430

I am consistently appalled at how hypocritical, selfish and lacking in self-awareness posts such as this one are.
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 No.2431

>>2428
The feeling of meaninglessness might go away in a class-less society.
Meaning is probably derived from controle over the surplus you produce.
So there is hope that this will go away once we can live in a socialist society.

The sense of insignifiance is the result of living in mass society, that can't really be helped but you can learn to ignore it.

>On top of this we are surrounded by idiots at any given point

Most people have unrealised potential, don't think of people as idiots think of them as not fully realised.

You are complaining about your mood leading you to contemplate sucide.
If you have interests in a technical project i suggest you try out one of the diy opensource electroencephalogram headsets.
You can use those to play games that use brainwave feedback and train yourself to have controle over your mood.
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 No.2432

>>2430
This literally means nothing
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 No.2433

>>2432
I agree, OP literally means nothing.
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 No.2434

>>2433
Wow good one
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 No.2435

>>2431
>The feeling of meaninglessness might go away in a class-less society.
bullshit, it will only be amplified. and this is good. the spirit that is in human bodies needs to be free
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 No.2445

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>>2435
What do you mean it needs to be free?
the concept of our meaninglessness is frighting to your average normie. Hell it's frightening to me.

Haven't you read Nietzsche? God is dead and we killed him? The death of god and its consequences are horrifying.
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 No.2538

Life may be meaningless, but we are not here to suffer. We can do things to not suffer, or suffer less. There is no inexorable push to make us suffer as much as possible, except in the minds of those who wish to lord over us. There is that in the world which is simply abomination, like Eugenics, and that which is at least tolerable. Whether we want the world without maximal suffering is a different question. It may very well be that humans are drawn to this misery and that explains why it went the way it did, when we obviously could have done better. There was no true technological reason or a crass motive that suggested we had to suffer, and this includes the past where we supposedly didn't know better. There was no excuse for the predation of feudal nobles or the lies and more lies that have been offered. All of that is one scam after another, and there were these strange progressive types who asked a simple question - why do we need to suffer like this? The answer, bombshell, is that we never needed to do this. Socialism in its early modern conception asked this very question and gradually it was transformed into something entirely alien to what it originally suggested. It is not that socialism will create a world without suffering, but that we could easily do better than arranged wars that the elite treat like a sport, sacrificing us mostly so they can have their jollies, with the excuse that every other noble does it. The idiotic behavior of nobles and the bourgeois are imposed on the whole world, even as most of us and enough of the bourgeois class see the entire enterprise of war and immiseration as pointless and obviously fixable. All it requires is enough people feeding vice and cruelty to keep the cycle going, and a belief imposed that you're not allowed to stop any of it. If we were allowed to stop it or even walk away from it, it would not be this bad. Guess what certain people make their mission to ensure, even as the will of many pissed off people would upend it without vast expense spent to suppress any resistance to a sick ruling idea.

Some idiots will say "durrr capitalism is about profits", and this is a dumbass line. Capitalists are interested in survival before they can consider profitability, and largely see that capitalism is unworkable and no longer in their interest as it has existed. The movement to keep us in misery is class collaborationist and does not conform to some crass motive at all. If we were interested in profitability towards some aim and held perfect information, those with money would likely see the futility of market exchange when you could just arrange affairs in a way that is equitable and doesn't push people to torture each other and themselves over stupid horseshit. Even if they wished to maintain their superior position and wealth, it would be preferable to give a little now and let the little people have their creature comforts and possibility of promotion. It is something entirely different that suggests "die die die die die" is the answer instead of basic shit that any liberal or socialist could understand. All defenses of capitalism today are defenses of its eugenic function, rather than a belief that markets are the only possible way or that the law of the market is somehow a path to the good. Only retards believe the latter, and the former is a condition the liberals knew to be a terrible one and not really a necessary one. Only by making socialism appear as this impossible visage instead of something very practical did the liberals suggest that we had to respect property and money, and for themselves, they have a very different sense of what is valuable. The only people incredulously believing the money myth are the petty ranks of managers who are just there to push down the little people - that's literally all they do and they are habituated to perform it like animals.
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 No.2539

>>2538
See, people say I'm a doomer for talking about eugenics so much, but I'm trying to tell people that if they don't answer this basic question, nothing they say about economic systems is relevant. I find it curious how they're always going to bat for eugenics, which many people regard as a depraved abomination with a known history of rampant lying and abuse for no gain, but they tell us that we need to follow the latest narrative that will never work so long as the eugenics question remains intact. Those people are the fucking worst slime. At least the outright eugenists and the fascists claim they're on the winning side and see a few benefits. These trolls and shills don't even receive the silver that Judas got.
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 No.2540

>>2429
Underrated post.

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