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 No.2851

Due to the modern posties adopting a liberal analysis, intersectionalism and idpol should we reconsider the Marxian class analysis while subordinating it to post-leftist ideas and Stirnerite analysis? Certainly thinking ideologically is a slippery slope but we should base our socio-economic analysis on something concrete, lest we'll get confused by what the sources of spooks, oppression and exploitation are just like intersectionalists and right-wingers. Obviously we shouldn't reduce our whole experience to economics but not like systemic oppression, exploitation and indoctrination come from thin air either. Not even Stirner rejected the class analysis: if you've read The Unique and Its Property you'd notice that he also used class categories quite a lot. The question is how we should go about it and to what extend it should even be utilized. I am quite interested in post-Marxists like Deleuze, Baudrillard and Bataille, maybe they have the answers.
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 No.2852

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ive always considered the two analysis to go hand and hand. stirner self interest and marxian class analysis complement eachother very well.
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 No.2856

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>>2852
Exactly. What Marxists call "class interests" are really just economic self-interests, they are quick to denounce the concept of the self-interest because of class interests despite class interests being an expression of it. Of course many Stirnerites would say that economics are a spook but the existence of economic interests is undeniable… unless you are not integrated into the workforce obviously.
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 No.2863

>>2852
>>2856
>>2857
Wouldn't that be capitalism then?
Because most people are too hesitant towards communism.
Communism requires communal effort, which would mean that egoism has to die
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 No.2867

>>2863
Communism requires faith in revolution and capitalism requires respect of private property, neither are particularly compatible with egoism which is more focused on pursuing anarchy and self-interests above any other considerations and disregarding any and all sacred values. So no, egoism is not capitalism and anyone who says this obviously hasn't read or doesn't want to read Stirner.

With that said, I see no issue with Stirnerites using class analysis since it's just one of many tools in their arsenal, refusing to aknowledge class dynamics just because "Marxism bad" or whatever is just as spooked imho, it's liberalism disguised as free thinking.

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