Perhaps this belongs in /meta/, but I decided to post this on the main board since very few people even browse there and this concerns everyone.
I've been on /leftypol/ since 2017, and lately I've been feeling pretty depressed about the state of the board. Maybe I was looking at things through rose coloured glasses, but before the latest split I felt like we were just starting to recover from the 8chan days, and building a new chan identity and userbase. The board activity and notoriety grew steadily for the whole of 2020, and sustained itself for the most part even after the Burger election.
Sure, there were constant /pol/ raids and that weird attack by the Thai royalists, but that drama also bred interest. le /pol/face mem, or at least the iteration that triggered halfchan to conduct those giga raids, came from us. I remember talking to several newfags from leftist discords and subs that came to us in those days.
The board was also much, much faster. I still don't have a very clear idea of what caused the latest split, since I was away for few months, but I do know that board activity right now is back to the darkest early days of bunkerchan. And still there are people calling for bunkerfags banned from the site.
>but muh board quality
Picrel is a thread from late-era bunkerchan. While the board quality does suffer proportionally as newfags flood the site, we also get good new posters, and oldfags are encouraged to effortpost when there actually is an audience for quality posting. There are very few regular effortposters left, practically no quality shitposters (who are very important for the site, again picrel) and no threads where different quality posters coalesce to create long chains of effort posts I can enjoy while taking a shit at work.
>It's just a chan, get a life
I mostly do other things than lurk /leftypol/. I've got a job, a GF, real passions and budding interest in organizing. But /leftypol/ at it's best has been the absolute best leftist online forum, at times even news source. Everything else out there is pure shit. Even the so called "magazines" are shit. /leftypol/ has occupied an important space in the online Left IMO. I come across memes that originate here in far off and surprising places. This board has always been place that punches above its weight in terms of influence, and has been pretty close to being relevant as a place of young Leftist discource in it's own right. Thus I think the health and growth of the board are valid concerns. Which brings me to some questions I want to put both to the jannies, while I also invite the general userbase to weigh in.
Is there any plan on growing the board, ie. managing the board in such a way that invites growth in userbase and activity?
In the case the board does manage to grow and regain a larger userbase, are there any contingency plans to avoid further splitting? Or are we doomed forever to split over autistic reasons eacht time we stand at the cusp of relevancy?
I don't what to say man. But the community is reunited at least in form when not in substance, so you can't really blame the low IP numbers on the split anymore, because bunkerchan redirects back to leftypol. Maybe we need to give it some time again. The jannies and BO's seem quite decent this time imo, if that is any consolation
>stand at the cusp of relevancy?
I don't even know why the original bunkerchan and .org split happened but jannies should keep their drama to themselves/
>>7818>600 ips per day is low
Lel. How many people here started lurking after the fall of bunkerchan?
Tbf, from what I gather the drama was legit with the old BO having some honest to God nazi connections, and being an all around turbo autismo. I just really want the current management to take serious anti-split measures. I'm so god damn tired of that shit. Even on 8chan there was the infamous Rojava split. Is there really a hard cap on membership for the modern left beyond which everything devolves into vicious infighting and endless splits which then end up dying isolated deaths in their own desolate eco chambers?
Hasn't it been around 150 recently?
My only issue here is that a minority of fags who are obsessively anti or pro china. Though I sympathize with the pro-chinese side more often than not, it seems as if china suspiciously has much more hate for it than anything else, maybe as if it's a geopolitical enemy of the united states and the left being anti-chinese is useful for the feds or something.
Another issue here is that it seems like a minority of users here really want to go out of there way to dick ride social conservatives as if their anti-capitalist rhetoric isn't even more flimsy and shallow than your average radlibs. I feel like radlibs are at least somewhat more sincere than your average rightiod who wants to make some sort of silly third positionist program that will be easily taken over by porky within a few years.
>>7824>My only issue here is that a minority of fags who are obsessively anti or pro china
This. I'm a pro-chinese communist or atleast critically pro-chinese, but those obsessions that some white redditors have over china is making me play devils advocate more often than not.
Learn to read, fag. 150 is the posts per hour you fucking mog, lmao. Shit, on that note our pph is way high than it ever was on bunker. On bunker the PPH was never above 100 even with 900 unique IP's. the only time bunker ever had a huge PPH was right after the split. at 300 PPHRight now we have around 200 PPH.
I appreciate your optimism.
>I hear people constantly bitching about "Oh not another split!" Yet they can't actually give a tentative reason why another split would occur. Give one one concrete reason
As if far left niche groups have ever needed a concrete reason. The Rojava split was autistic as fuck. I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a split over some China shit already.
>>7826>Learn to read, fag. 150 is the posts per hour you fucking mog
Aren't you just peachy. Is this the famous british banter?
>>7827>I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a split over some China shit already
Nah, the pro-china crowd in this hypothetical scenario would just return to r/genzedong. Trust me, a lot of them lurk and post here
You'd think that our hostility towards transsexuals for the most part would kee them at bay.
>>7817>I come across memes that originate here in far off and surprising places.
Which places do you mean for example?
Really makes you think, huh? For real though, I was on the sub a while ago and someone made a thread about the subs thoughts on "anti-idpol" and I just knew that OP and said the word "faggot" not only a couple of times
soemwhat out of topic but I find that reddit usually has deeper discussions on shit while also having a lot of fluffy nonsense that doesn't matter. The average chan topic is a bit more cerebreal but I never see your average chanfag do much more than act like a midwit. True stupidity and genius rarely comes naturally to your average chanfag
All we have now are bait threads. /pol/ makes up over half this board's userbase. Now is the steady and painful decline of a once-loved community.
8chan didn't shut down because of him, but he marked the beginning of the end
the rojava split was under different circumstances. The mods here us a formal democratic structure. Could one of the sysadmins go rouge in the future? Sure. They they have never displayed any reason to give us such fears what so ever. I think all the fear mongering about another split is way over blown. There wasn't evne a split with Rojava, old BO just straight up was kicking and baning anarchists and people who supported rojava and things aren't run with one person at the top anymore. It's apples to oranges.
the jannies here respect freedom of speech
>>7827>I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a split over some China shit already.
As a Anti-Dengist, let me say this: This board would be less fun, if we wouldn't had any Dengists anymore. The same applies for anarchists and duginists. This board consists a wide range of opinions and that is the essential part of the fun!
I remember seeing that pic a lot in the old days. I'm pretty sure it came from here indeed.
4chan's doing new captcha things, i'm not saying someone should shill there but someone should shill there tbh.
Probably. They still annoy the shit outta me
I've seen /leftypol/ stuff on leftbook, reddit and twitter at least. The porky meme, Nazbol meme, le polface as mentioned, etc.
Oh sorry we don't cow-toe to your leninist hugbox anymore.
Why Lenin on Neptune tho?
i said since 2017, which was when the hugbox started faggot
Communist Mt. Rushmore in space.
You've never been in the old days if you think this.
Imageboard culture peaked october first, 2003. Every thingg else has been part of the continual fall.
Shit, my bad, I got my timeframes fucked up in my head.
In good news our current administration and board software is a bit more reliable so the site won't fall over the moment we get more traffic
i'll kill you if you don't grow up
>>7817>And still there are people calling for bunkerfags banned from the site.
That's because most of the people who decided to support it after the split were /pol/ "converts"
I can't promise you that there will never be /leftypol/ drama or a /leftypol/ split in the future, because I can't know the future, but I can tell you that we all know just how damaging the first and second splits were and how much they damaged the community. We all are working forwards with the stability of the site in mind, and while we don't always agree, we try to work things out equitably and not cause issues. I trust our current sysadmin and our moderation team more generally to keep the ship steered in the right direction, and I don't think anyone has the inclination to do another split or some shit like that. For one thing because it took a lot of effort to get onto a site that we now control, so why ruin it?
Other than that, I can only agree with the other anon, if you want /leftypol/ to be more of a place for quality posting, then be the change you want to see; we need effortposters, we need OC makers, we need affiliated video producers and so on. Thank you all for sticking with us for this long.
Hilarious when most of the retards bitching about "troons" came from bunkerchan and spaces very cabal such as pyongyang and bkeys and those faggots on the IRC. Get real you fucking asshurt bunker CUCK ORGERS WIN!
God will you fags ever shut up?
People left for various reasons and people are still here for various reasons. The board has gone over a ton of changes in the last 5 years or so, so, just shut the fuck up. You whiners are literally the worst. You're like the equivalent of a consumer whore just demanding to coom or you will "call the manager" you are literally the worst faggots on this site.
The truth is no one cares if people come from reddit, facebook, or twitter. No one cares. What we care about is if people act like faggots and you can't expect everyone to be making high quality posts. Either shape up or ship out uyghur.
don't make him mod
i saw him eating boogers
>why .xyz bunkerchan was so good?
It's easy - Comrade space was a Brezhnevist by heart, which allowed socialist subculture to flourish. Now tell me, by this analogy, which era are we now in? Andropovism?