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 No.86

What do you all think about the origins of Covid?

Many scientists say it occurred in nature, but also, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the supposed leak came from, is actually USAID funded.

USAID of course being synonmous with regime change.

It has troubled me for a while that just before Covid was released, the world was in huge turmoil that threatend to spill over.

Everybody remember how all economic indicators were pointing to a massive crash BEFORE Covid happened. Also all around the world, on every continent, revolutionary movements had sprung up in response to the century of neoliberalism and fascism before them.

The amazon burned.

Its almost too perfect. Blame it as a chinese bioweapon, cover up for the impending economic crash, and provide an excuse for pro big business policies into posterity, "we need austerity because so much was lost during the pandemic" at the same time giving unprecedented powers to curb protests, this, right at the same time as all kinds of protests were stirring across the world as previously stated, and the world was about to have another big wave of protest due to impending economic crash.

I don't have a solid theory on it, but a lot of it is very out of place.
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 No.88

>>86
The neoliberals are abusing crisis to advance their political goals.
That is what you have to criticize.

If you make up theories that they caused the virus and you can't back it up with hard evidence, you look like a fool and that will help them to de-legitimize your criticism of them doing a power grab.

The only conspiracy you could potentially entertain is that the neoliberals might have known that the pandemic was likely going to happen, and they engage in criminal negligence by not warning the world. There were pandemic simulations that predicted something similar than what actually happened, and that should have triggered crisis preparations and crisis prevention efforts, but it didn't.

The thing that speaks against a neoliberal conspiracy to cause this pandemic or to let this happen, is that the neoliberal system has been discredited by this, it failed to produce crisis management. It made them look very incompetent and it demonstrated that huge parts of the population does not trust them and questions their legitimacy.

>Blame it as a chinese bioweapon,

Except that they have not a shred of evidence to back this up, most of the science points towards zoological origins. The neoliberals that blame China look like crasy cranks, sabotaging scientific research. This might not be very important to the general public but it alienates scientists, which is deadly for high tech societies.

Only a few countries got a good score on crisis management, where they achieved: low casualties, low economic impact and moderate imposition on the personal lives of People. China was among the countries that got their shit together in time and adapted quickly enough. And what matters here is what Chinese people think, for them their style of government has been vindicated, it has killed off any momentum for neo-liberalising China. Of all the goals that the neoliberals had for the 21st century, this was their most important one.

When we take the tally of the situation, the rich basically managed to do more wealth transfer, which is most likely going to be reversed in the future.
And they lost several strategic struggles. If this is their scheme to take over the world, it's shit.
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 No.132

>>88
>If you make up theories that they caused the virus and you can't back it up with hard evidence
I mean, the fact that the lab they say it came from is a USAID funded lab is extremely suspect, its a CIA soft power arm.

>. It made them look very incompetent and it demonstrated that huge parts of the population does not trust them and questions their legitimacy.

to you or I, but from where I'm sitting, in the UK, the Tory party have gone from strength to even stronger during Covid.

>Except that they have not a shred of evidence to back this up,

but they don't need evidence they control the media entirely.

Ask yourself how the bat soup thing became the story straight away

>Only a few countries got a good score on crisis management, where they achieved:

100% but, this isn't what most people believe happened

>When we take the tally of the situation, the rich basically managed to do more wealth transfer,


I think this is a key point in favour a skitzo analysis
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 No.154

Said it before and i'll say it again: Immune escape resulting from experimental SARS/MERS vaccine investigations and their military deployment. It is a public fact that various SARS and MERS vaccines have been tested over the years on both animal and human subjects, and SARS-CoV-2 is basically just an attenuated and more often than not asymptomatic mutation of SARS. Especially considering that many of the later trial vaccines were tested on young and healthy military conscripts, they must have seemed successful and safe until the asymptomatic vaccinated carriers began spreading the attenuated virus to more vulnerable populations, just as SARS-Cov-2 vaccinated persons can pass on more attenuated but also more virally loaded variations like Delta. this will happen again and again with experimental livestock vaccines as well
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 No.184

>>183
Yeh this is the USAID funded research I was talking about. Something really does stink
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 No.195

>>184
The US funding research into coronaviruses, which we've had pandemics of before, is not evidence of anything more than research being done on it. Post proof, schizo.
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 No.196

>>154
post proof schizo
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 No.197

>>196
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6178114/
<The monkey is the most widely studied animal model in SARS research. Similar to another study (Qin et al. 2006) on inactivated SARS vaccine in monkeys, in our previous study, the inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine that elicits a robust serum-neutralizing antibody response in rhesus macaque provides protection from challenge with virus. Nevertheless, at least one report has indicated that a SARS-CoV vaccine candidate based on recombinant full-length SARS-CoV spikes protein triggered infection of human B cell lines in vitro despite eliciting a neutralizing and protective immune response in rodents (Kam et al. 2007). Additionally, at least two studies have shown that anti-SARS-CoV-spiked immune serum potentiates infection of immune cell lines by SARS-CoV because of antibody-mediated ADE (Jaume et al. 2011; Wang et al. 2014). Meanwhile, another research group performed the ADE assays using sera from patients positive for SARS-CoV. The research data showed that treatment of human promonocyte with more diluted anti-sera collected from patients positive for SARS-CoV resulted in increased virus infectivity and cytopathic effect (Wang et al. 2014).
MERS Vaccine trials on military personnel (2016):
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/841840
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 No.198

>>195
>USAID commonly known for regime change soft power OPs all over the world recently in Bolivia and Venezuela, but also many other places
>USAID funds lab in Wuhan which becomes the centre of accusations of a lab leak which causes a global pandemic
>US state department and all its horses and men blame China, the US biggest rival
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 No.199

>>197
that doesn't prove your claim at all lol

>>198
post proof schizo
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 No.202

>>86
> origins of Covid?
photoshop
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 No.211

>What do you all think about the origins of Covid?
Chinese chemical weapon.
They'd be crazy not to.
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 No.212

>>199
No shit it's just a theory and at this point the only thing that can be established is plausibility.
Another possibility could be that SARS simply mutated when challenged by a host with preexisting immunity from prior infection; taking into account the time gap, possibly a person whose mother contracted and recovered from it during pregnancy with them.
I could be wrong but both of those possibilites are scientifically sound and a lot less schizo than existing widespread theories like "biological warfare" or shadowy Gain of Function experiments as there's no finger pointing about malicious intent, so I'm surprised nobody else has voiced or looked into them. I'm not even ruling out the "official" zoonotic hypothesis, there's just no smoking gun to be found for any tentative explanation.
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 No.217

>>212
virus don't exist, read theory.
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 No.218

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>>211
There is no incentive to engage in bio-warfare in general. China's economics are going well so they have even less reason to cause some giant disturbance that grinds a lot of economic activity to a halt. Also that would mean letting it loose on their own population, now that's crazy talk.
>>217
i read theory and it made a very convincing case that viruses exist.

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Maybe we should consider treating viruses as big organisms that do not have their cells attached to each other. Lets call it a "cloud-organism." All these virus particles have the same genetic code after-all. Mutated strains could be like "cloud mitosis"
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 No.219

>>218
Are they really going that well though? All the data I have seen, in the long term, shows their GDP growth is actually shrinking. Even china cannot escape the falling rate of profit I am afraid.
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 No.220

>>218
>i read theory and it made a very convincing case that viruses exist.
source?
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 No.221

>>218
I read theory and it made a very convincing case that your mom is gay
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 No.222

>>218
>i read theory and it made a very convincing case that viruses exist.
Of course not. virus hypothesis is never tested against non virus hypothesis. viruses are postulated and made to "exist", never proven.
if it made a convincing case for you well, good luck.
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 No.223

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what's up with the anti science posters here, you can see viruses under a microscope.
Here is a monochrome picture from an electron microscope, with color added to highlight the viruses.
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 No.229

>>218
China was the only country with economic growth in 2020 though
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 No.230

>>223
Oh shit is the germ theory denialist here?
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 No.231

>>229
>China was the only country with economic growth in 2020 though
The Chinese economy grew less during covid compared to before. A slight relative gain compared to the competition and a loss in absolute terms. Considering the risks associated with bio-warfare. That's not plausible at all.

This outbreak was a natural occurrence, it was only accelerated a little by some aspects of human organization that has a lot of big crowds and global transport.

I would be more worried about some unscrupulous corporations that are now brainstorming about how they can produce a pandemic to sell people treatment.
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 No.304

This might be a total schizo theory, but I am convinced COVID is the First Horseman of the Apocalypse
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 No.305

>>304
What were all the horsemen? Pestilence, famine, etc etc?
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 No.306

>>305
Only the Fourth Horseman, Death, was given a name in Revelation. The second and third are usually referred to as War and Famine, respectively, though those names are simply given to them based on how they are described in Revelation. The first however is a bit more ambiguous. The specific passage of Revelation states:
>I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
So sometimes he is referred to as Conquest, though Pestilence is another interpretation, as apparently a bow and arrows can symbolism disease, actually found an article about it: https://jisforjourney.com/pestilence-prayer-arrows-plague/
So in order they would be: Pestilence/Conquest, War, Famine, and Death.
So since the First Horseman wears a crown, and "corona" (as in coronavirus) essentially means "crown," it just struck me as a spooky coincidence.
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 No.378

I HAVE A THEORY THAT COVID IS A SENTIENT MICROORGANISM/NANOTECHNOLOGY DESIGNED TO ACT AS A GOD OF SORTS. HEAR ME OUT. WHAT BETTER WAY TO KNOW THE TRUE NATURE OF OTHERS, IN TERMS OF GOOD AND EVIL, THEN BY INTRODUCING A PASSENGER PROGRAMMED TO COLLECT DATA ON THE CITIZENS OF THE EARTH AND REPORT BACK TO A DATA CENTER TO BE LATER SORTED BASED ON ALGORITHMS. AFTER THE DATA IS ANALYZED, THE VACCINE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE BODY WHICH CAN BE ACTIVATED TO EITHER KILL THE PERSON OR INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE INDIVIDUAL BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THEIR DATA COLLECTED. ALSO THIS DATA COLLECTED COULD BE USED TO IDENTIFY ANOMALIES OR THOSE WITH DNA INDICATING EXTRAORDINARY ABILITIES IN ORDER TO COLLECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND ATTEMPT TO CONTROL THEM.
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 No.379

>>304
Revelation was a disguised political screed that was about the supposedly inevitable return of the Julio-Claudians. Nero was the proverbial "beast." The return of Nero was a popular doomsday prophesy after the bloody wars that saw Nero exiled. People of the empire, especially the Cult of Christ feared the end of the peace and stability of the short-lived Flavian Dynasty.

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