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Post anything about traveling abroad dating, sex or marriage in this thread.
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 No.11281

'Love tourists': Single men travelling overseas to find a bride | 60 Minutes Australia
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 No.11394

Sex tourism in Africa : Kenya's booming industry / Wanjohi Kibicho

https://www.si.edu/object/siris_sil_971819
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I'm going to go to Brazil to find a gf.
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>A Mexican Goblino ascends in Italy.
There's hope for me yet.
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⚠️ IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER ⚠️
This advice is based on a conversation that took place in 2022.
The information, prices, visa policies, crime statistics, and cultural dynamics may have changed significantly since then.

- Inflation has affected costs everywhere
- Visa policies change constantly
- Crime rates and safety conditions fluctuate
- Social dynamics evolve over time
- Exchange rates are different now

ALWAYS verify current conditions before making any decisions.
This is historical anecdotal advice — not current factual guidance.
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SS — God Tier — Unmatched Excellence
S — Top Tier — Highly Recommended
A — Great Tier — Strong Choice
B — Good Tier — Decent Option
C — Average Tier — Has Issues
D — Below Average Tier — Significant Flaws
E — Poor Tier — Major Problems
F — Fail Tier — Avoid If Possible


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> 🇵🇭 PHILIPPINES — "The Misfit Sanctuary" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: S TIER — TOP TIER


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Dating Ease │ SS │ Easiest in Asia for foreigners │
│ Social Vibe │ SS │ Non-judgmental, warm, accepting │
│ Acceptance of Misfits │ SS │ Unmatched tolerance for eccentrics│
│ Friendliness of Locals │ S │ Genuinely warm, non-confrontational│
│ Safety (violent crime) │ S │ Very rare for foreigners │
│ Cost of Living (2022) │ A │ Cheap but rising │
│ English Proficiency │ S │ Widely spoken │
│ Infrastructure │ D │ Chaotic, poor transport │
│ Food Quality │ B │ Decent but not world-class │
│ Scam Risk │ B │ Mostly petty taxi scams │
│ Long-term Visa Ease │ B │ Manageable but bureaucratic │
│ Professional Opportunities │ D │ Limited for foreigners │
│ Healthcare Quality │ C │ Basic, poor for serious issues │
│ Weather │ B │ Tropical, hot, humid │
│ Internet Quality │ C │ Decent in cities │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

> ADVICE

- Go if you feel like an outcast/reject — culture is non-judgmental
- Be nice to everyone — simple formula: nice = nice in return
- Don't dismiss it before you go — the vibe grows on you
- Date there, not just visit — local warmth changes your perception
- Avoid the far southwest — only dangerous area mentioned
- Don't walk through dark water areas at night — basic street smarts
- Understand the family/clan structure — everyone is connected to someone
- Be patient with infrastructure — it's chaotic but functional
- Don't expect things to work efficiently — lower your expectations
- Consider medium-sized cities over Manila for lower cost and less chaos

> TIPS

- Non-confrontational people — violence is extremely rare
- Only worry about taxi fare scams — not violent crime
- Works because there's "space for misfits"
- Ugly infrastructure, priceless social vibe
- Most people are part of an extended family clan for survival
- One OFW (overseas worker) supports multiple relatives
- Poor people often die young from lack of medical care
- Many survive through subsistence living — rice is cheap
- Transportation is cheap (jeepneys, tricycles)
- Hospital bills are a major crisis for locals
- Half the population is technically unemployed but survives through family networks
- Foreigners are held to different expectations than locals
- A broke foreigner has much worse dating prospects than a broke local
- The vibe is liberating — no constant judgment
- Works best for eccentrics, misfits, and those who don't fit in elsewhere
- Takes time to appreciate — the ghetto-like appearance grows on you
- People are genuinely happy and simple — not materialistic
- Smiles are real, not performative
- English is widely spoken — easy transition
- Can live on $500-800/month if frugal (2022 prices)
- Rent can be as low as $60 in some areas (2022 prices — likely higher now)
- Dating is easier than almost anywhere else in Asia
- Women are sweet and easygoing — not calculating
- Fewer scams targeting foreigners than other countries
- Travel advisories from Western governments were exaggerated (2022)

WARNING: Healthcare is basic and inadequate for serious medical issues. Many poor locals die young from lack of care. If you get seriously ill or injured, you will need to go to a private hospital or leave the country.

< "Nobody judges you. Nobody tells you there's something wrong with you."

< "It's very non-judgmental — every misfit or eccentric guy feels like he fits in."
< "When you wake up and feel good, it's priceless."
< "I've never had a violent confrontation in the Philippines. Not once."
< "Americans think this is a dangerous country — totally different animal than Colombia."
< "When you go there and feel the vibe, it starts to grow on you."
< "Even if the girls aren't the most attractive, when you see how sweet they are, they become more attractive."
< "The Philippines is kind of good for those who feel like outcasts and rejects."
< "You can live in the province for $700-800 a month." (2022 prices)
< "People are non-confrontational — they don't get violent when angry."
< "If you're nice to everyone, everyone's nice to you."


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> 🇹🇭 THAILAND — "The Smile That Hides" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: B TIER — GOOD OPTION (WITH WARNINGS)


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Tourist Experience │ SS │ World-class destination │
│ Food Quality │ SS │ World-class cuisine │
│ Nightlife │ S │ Famous for a reason │
│ Infrastructure │ B │ Decent but aging │
│ Cost of Living (2022) │ B │ No longer a budget paradise │
│ Dating (casual) │ B │ Easy but risky │
│ Dating (serious/marriage) │ D │ High risk, hidden expectations │
│ Safety (crime) │ B │ Generally safe │
│ Acceptance of Foreigners │ D │ Hidden xenophobia, never accepted│
│ Visa Long-term Ease │ D │ Difficult, favors wealthy │
│ Genuine Friendliness │ D │ Smiles hide contempt │
│ Cultural Integration │ F │ Impossible for white foreigners │
│ Women's Intentions │ D │ "Good calculators" │
│ Healthcare │ B │ Good private hospitals │
│ Weather │ B │ Tropical, hot season │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

> ADVICE

- Visit as tourist; think twice about living there long-term
- If you marry, meet the family FIRST — not doing so is a red flag
- Vet your partner for weeks/months — don't rush
- Prefer Southern region over Northeast (Isaan) — different risk profile
- Expect family expectations — you're marrying the clan, not just one person
- Learn from long-term expats, not tourists — tourists don't see the real place
- Watch your budget — costs have risen significantly (and continue to rise)
- Don't expect to ever be accepted as Thai — it won't happen
- Be very careful about marriage — higher risk than Philippines
- Understand the dowry system (sin sod) before proposing
- If you have a conflict with a Thai, expect the system to favor them
- Learn the subtle cultural cues — they won't tell you directly
- Be cautious about expressing negative opinions about the country
- Don't assume friendliness equals genuine warmth
- Build relationships with expats who speak Thai — they know the real situation
- If you want a serious relationship, avoid bar girls entirely
- Consider middle-class Bangkok women — they rarely meet foreigners
- Be aware that many foreigners marry into expectations of supporting the whole family
- Don't be fooled by the "Land of Smiles" marketing

> TIPS

- Hidden xenophobia behind the smile — you will never be accepted as local
- "Land of Smiles" is a psychological trap
- Higher risk of bad relationship outcomes than Philippines
- Local women are "good calculators" — think long-term strategically
- Don't trust the smile — contempt/suspicion can hide behind it
- Fluency doesn't bring acceptance — you're still an outsider
- Deep culture of nationalism and superiority
- Education system teaches Thai superiority
- Foreigners are tolerated for money, not wanted for integration
- Visas are deliberately difficult for long-term stays
- Wealthy foreigners get easier visas — poor ones don't
- Costs have risen dramatically — no longer a budget paradise
- Used to be 80 baht to the pound; now much less
- Prices have gone up significantly across the board
- Need $1,000+/month for a decent life (2022 prices — higher now)
- Inflation is a real concern for expats
- Northeast (Isaan) women = highest risk category
- Southern women = lower risk, different culture
- Middle-class families may return dowry after wedding
- Poor families usually keep the dowry
- Bar girls = highest risk for scams and bad endings
- Online dating has its own risks
- Many foreigners end up supporting entire families
- Some broke expats end up begging on the streets
- The culture is very close-knit — you'll always be outside it
- If you get in a car crash or legal trouble, you'll see the real bias

WARNING: Thailand's famous smile hides deep xenophobia and contempt. You will never be accepted as Thai, no matter how fluent you become. The legal and social systems will always favor Thais over you. Marriage is high-risk with hidden family expectations. Costs are no longer cheap — inflation is real and rising.

< "You may be bad, you may be good — but you're never Thai."

< "There's always a huge culture divide. Westerners are generally not that well-regarded."
< "Behind the smile you don't know if they still hold you in contempt."
< "It's almost impossible to naturalize. The system favors the Thai every time."
< "I don't know why it's called the Land of Smiles. They don't smile that much — at least in Bangkok."
< "Chinese people can become Thai. For white people, it's really impossible."
< "Many foreigners end up paying for a house in the province, a dowry, and supporting a whole lifestyle."
< "You're not just marrying her — you're marrying her entire family."
< "Some of those broke expats in Thailand were begging. It's sad to see."
< "Thailand used to be a paradise for budget travelers. Not anymore."
< "The more she's willing to leave her culture, the easier it'll be for you."


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> 🇻🇳 VIETNAM — "The Cosmopolitan Sweet Spot" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: A TIER — GREAT OPTION


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Cost of Living │ S │ Still affordable │
│ Food Quality │ S │ Excellent street food │
│ Infrastructure │ B │ Improving rapidly │
│ Energy/Bustle │ S │ Vibrant, alive, bustling │
│ Dating (cosmopolitan) │ B │ Good in Ho Chi Minh City │
│ Dating (small towns) │ D │ Very difficult for foreigners │
│ Women's Education Level │ S │ Educated, career-focused │
│ Safety │ B │ Generally safe │
│ Visa Ease │ D │ Can change unexpectedly (2022) │
│ Language Barrier │ C │ English limited outside HCMC │
│ Friendliness of Locals │ B │ Direct, less reserved than North │
│ Xenophobia │ C │ Less than Thailand, more than PH │
│ English Proficiency │ B │ Good in HCMC, poor elsewhere │
│ Weather │ B │ Tropical, humid │
│ Professional Opportunities │ C │ Limited for non-Vietnamese │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

> ADVICE

- Stick to the largest southern city (Ho Chi Minh City) — women are educated, speak English, open-minded
- Avoid smaller towns — much harder to date foreigners
- Learn some of the language — huge advantage
- Initial attraction is hardest — once they decide, it's good
- Be aware that Vietnamese women are more materialistic than Filipinas
- Have higher standards — don't expect easy dating
- Speak Vietnamese if you want serious relationships
- Consider second-tier cities for lower cost of living
- Understand that Northern and Southern Vietnam are culturally different
- Don't assume your experience in one city applies to the whole country
- Be prepared for women who have standards about career and status
- If you're a digital nomad, this is a great hub
- The country is bustling with life and energy
- Food is excellent and cheap
- Infrastructure is improving rapidly
- The people are hardworking and ambitious

> TIPS

- Southern city ≠ Northern capital — completely different dating dynamics
- Women are more materialistic than Filipinas — have higher standards
- Good for digital nomads — affordable and bustling
- Not as easy as Philippines for dating, but still viable
- English is common in Ho Chi Minh City, less so elsewhere
- Foreigners who speak Vietnamese have a massive advantage
- Women are educated and career-focused
- They value stability and ambition in partners
- The country is safer than its reputation suggests
- Visa policies can change unexpectedly (as happened in 2022)
- Costs are rising but still affordable (relative to Western standards)
- Great street food culture
- Active nightlife in the cities
- Less xenophobia than Thailand
- More "in your face" and direct culture than other East Asian countries
- People make eye contact with strangers — more social than Taiwan/Japan/Korea
- Good place for those who want energy and bustle
- Not as "easy" for dating as Philippines, but more cosmopolitan

WARNING: Visa policies are unstable — you can be forced to leave unexpectedly (as happened in 2022). Vietnamese women have high standards and are more materialistic than Filipinas. Dating is harder than Philippines; don't expect easy success. Language is a major barrier outside Ho Chi Minh City.

< "In Ho Chi Minh City, the women are educated, speak English, and are more open-minded."

< "Once they decide on you, the initial part is just attracting them to begin with."
< "Vietnam is a great country. The people are so friendly. I truly love that country."
< "When I was in smaller towns, I had a lot more difficulty because women are not as open to foreigners."
< "Ho Chi Minh City is completely different than Hanoi."
< "Vietnam has got the same GDP per capita as Philippines but it looks more organized and productive."
< "If you can speak Vietnamese, that's a huge advantage."


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> 🇲🇾 MALAYSIA (Kuala Lumpur) — "The Hidden Gem" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: S TIER — TOP TIER (Highly Underrated)


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Value for Money │ SS │ Unbeatable for what you get │
│ Infrastructure │ S │ Light years ahead of Philippines │
│ English Proficiency │ S │ Widely spoken │
│ Food Quality │ S │ Diverse, excellent │
│ Cost of Living (2022) │ SS │ Rent as low as $60 │
│ Cosmopolitan Vibe │ S │ Chinese, Malay, Indian mix │
│ Safety │ B │ Generally safe │
│ Acceptance of Foreigners │ B │ Less racist than Thailand │
│ Dating Pool Diversity │ B │ Multiple ethnic groups │
│ Long-term Visa Ease │ B │ Manageable │
│ Nightlife │ C │ Not a party destination │
│ Tourist Fame │ D │ Overlooked — but that's the point│
│ Weather │ B │ Tropical │
│ Muslim-Majority Culture │ C │ Cultural considerations apply │
│ Professional Opportunities │ B │ Some expat jobs available │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

> ADVICE

- Go to the capital city specifically (Kuala Lumpur) — not other regions
- Rent is absurdly cheap (~$60/month in 2022) — likely higher now
- English is widely spoken — no language barrier
- Cosmopolitan dating pool — Chinese, Malays, Indians all in one city
- Consider as a base — even if your partner is from elsewhere, this could work
- "Poor man's Singapore" — friendlier people, fraction of cost
- Explore KL thoroughly — it has everything you need
- Consider it for long-term residency if you like cities
- Be aware that it's a Muslim-majority country — cultural considerations apply
- The food scene is excellent and diverse
- Public transport is light years ahead of Philippines
- Traffic is much better than Manila
- It's cosmopolitan — people from all over Asia live there
- The city is modern and functional
- Cost of living is surprisingly low (was in 2022)
- Great place for English-speaking expats
- Less hidden hostility than Thailand
- More affordable than Singapore with similar benefits

> TIPS

- Better infrastructure than most of the region — trains, roads, traffic
- Much more good food than other popular destinations
- Less racist than other countries — especially toward Westerners
- Not on the popular list — overlooked gem
- Test it — very few people talk about it for no good reason
- Rent as low as $60 in some areas (2022 — check current prices)
- Elevated train system exists — unlike Manila
- Multiple cultures living together in peace
- Chinese, Malay, Indian populations all present
- English proficiency is widespread
- Good place for interracial couples
- Safe compared to many other Asian cities
- Friendlier than Singapore
- More modern than Philippines
- Cheaper than Singapore
- Great for digital nomads with modest income
- Not a party destination — more of a lifestyle city
- Dating culture exists but not as famous as Thailand/Philippines
- Women are educated and career-oriented
- Less materialism than Vietnam
- Good for those who want city life without chaos

WARNING: Malaysia is a Muslim-majority country with cultural and religious considerations that may affect dating, lifestyle, and legal matters. Not a party destination — it's a lifestyle city. Costs and visa policies may have changed since 2022.

< "How come very few people talk about Malaysia? It's not on the popular list."

< "It's like the poor man's Singapore — probably with friendlier people."
< "Rent is only $60. Cost of living is a lot lower, but infrastructure, transport — everything is so much better." (2022 prices)
< "It's full of people from all parts of Asia — cosmopolitan."
< "Even the Filipinas there said it's cheaper than Manila."
< "KL's got everything — Chinese, Malays, Indians all living together in peace."
< "I think it's probably less racist than Thailand, especially in favor of white people."
< "If I was looking for a place to live, I would definitely think about going to KL."


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> 🇨🇴 COLOMBIA — "High-Risk, High-Reward" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: D TIER — HIGH RISK (Only for specific demographics)


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Beauty of Country │ S │ Stunning │
│ Friendliness of Locals │ S │ Warm, outgoing, fun │
│ Cost of Living │ S │ Very cheap │
│ Food Quality │ B │ Good │
│ Nightlife │ S │ World-class │
│ Dating (under 35) │ B │ Possible, looks-focused │
│ Dating (over 35) │ E │ Very difficult seriously │
│ Safety — Violent Crime │ F │ Sophisticated criminals │
│ Safety — Scams │ F │ Elaborate, multi-step scams │
│ Safety — Drug-Related │ F │ Scopolamine is real │
│ Safety — Daytime │ D │ Robbed in broad daylight possible│
│ Acceptance of Foreigners │ B │ Warm but superficial │
│ Tourist Safety │ D │ Tourists are targets │
│ Visa Ease │ B │ Relatively easy │
│ Infrastructure │ B │ Decent in cities │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

WARNING: Colombia has sophisticated, organized crime that specifically targets foreigners. Even "safe" neighborhoods like El Poblado are not immune. Scopolamine is a real and present danger — they can blow it in your face at any time. You can be careful for years and still get robbed in one moment. NEVER meet women from clubs or dating apps alone — it's almost always a setup. If you go, accept this risk fully and be paranoid about safety.

> ADVICE

- Only go if under 35 — age is a bigger problem than in Asia
- Be extroverted, learn to dance — locals expect the first move
- Looks matter more than in Asia — more superficial dating culture
- Never meet people from clubs or dating apps — high scam risk
- Never go out alone at night — always in groups
- Carry only cheap phone + small cash — no valuables
- Use ATMs inside malls only — never street ATMs
- If robbed, give everything up immediately — don't resist
- Never take a taxi alone — always with someone else
- Avoid drugs entirely — scopolamine is real
- Consider safer alternatives — other Latin American countries with lower risk
- Understand that criminals are sophisticated, not just violent
- Don't assume you're smarter than the scammers
- Be especially careful in Medellin — it's overfished
- El Centro is not safe — avoid it
- Even El Poblado (supposedly safe) has risks
- Don't walk around showing valuables — "no mostrar papaya"
- Don't get into arguments with locals — you don't know who you're messing with
- Dating culture is different — women don't go to clubs alone
- If a woman approaches you alone in a club — RED FLAG
- Online dating is high-risk for scams
- Scopolamine is a real and present danger
- They can blow it in your face at any time
- The criminals have planned for different scenarios
- They use sophisticated methods like dating apps to target foreigners
- The murder rate was once the highest in the world
- It's improved, but crime remains sophisticated
- During Covid, desperation made crime worse
- Tourists are specifically targeted
- Even bloggers who lived there years got robbed eventually
- Be paranoid about safety — it's warranted

> TIPS

- Criminals are SOPHISTICATED — not just street crime
- They've planned several steps ahead — you can't outsmart them
- Normal precautions aren't enough — they've thought further
- "Showing papaya" = being an easy mark = target
- Even "safe" neighborhoods had ATM robberies (during Covid)
- You can be careful for years — it only takes ONE time
- The murder rate is still high by global standards
- Very sophisticated scams involving online dating
- Scopolamine is used — not just a myth
- People get drugged, black out, wake up with nothing
- Even street-smart people get victimized
- The criminals are on motorcycles — they disappear fast
- Cops don't make it a high priority
- Kidnapping was a major problem in the 90s
- Still exists but less common
- Wealthy foreigners are more attractive targets
- But backpackers also get robbed
- They profile people who look like they don't know what they're doing
- You need to know the culture to understand the risks
- Normal American street smarts aren't enough
- You're competing with local men who are suave and smooth
- Being white helps with some women, but not all
- Age is a major disadvantage after 35
- Older men have difficulty dating seriously
- It's easier for younger, decent-looking guys
- But even then, the risk is constant
- The country is beautiful and fun — if you can avoid the crime

< "Colombia's criminals are very sophisticated. They've thought several steps ahead."

< "Everything's great there — if it weren't for the damn crime."
< "Normal precautions aren't enough. They've planned further than you have."
< "You could be careful for years. It only takes one time."
< "Their number came up. It only takes one time."
< "You're much better off in groups — don't go out alone."
< "Colombians do NOT meet women at clubs alone. That's not normal. If a woman approaches you alone, RED FLAG."
< "The scopolamine thing — they blow it in your face and you're gone."
< "South America is very superficial — they pay a lot of attention to looks."
< "In Colombia, you don't f*** around. You don't even want to get into serious arguments."
< "El Centro is not safe. It's a haven for criminals."
< "Even during Covid, people were getting robbed in El Poblado at ATMs."
< "He went from never being a crime victim to losing everything in one moment."
< "If you're in Colombia, you have to be careful at all times."


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> 🇺🇸 USA — "The Bank, Not Home" (circa 2022)
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> 📊 OVERALL RANKING: E TIER — POOR (Unless you fit the mold)


┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ CATEGORY │ RANK │ NOTES │
├─────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────────────┤
│ Earning Potential │ SS │ Highest salaries in the world │
│ Career Opportunities │ SS │ Unmatched professional options │
│ Education Quality │ S │ Top universities │
│ Natural Beauty │ S │ Stunning parks, mountains, deserts│
│ Infrastructure │ S │ World-class │
│ Healthcare (if insured) │ S │ Excellent but expensive │
│ Social Connection │ F │ "Bubble society" — isolated │
│ Community │ F │ Dead — neighbors don't interact │
│ Emotional Well-being │ F │ Draining, numb, depressed │
│ Acceptance of Misfits │ F │ Hostile to introverts/eccentrics │
│ Freedom of Speech │ D │ Politically correct culture │
│ Cost of Living │ F │ Extremely expensive │
│ Safety (crime) │ B │ Varies widely by area │
│ Dating for Misfits │ F │ Three strikes — white, male, straight│
│ Dating for Extroverts │ B │ Possible but competitive │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

WARNING: The US is emotionally draining for misfits, introverts, and specific demographics (white males, especially older). Success and money do NOT fix the emptiness — you can be wealthy and still feel like a nobody. If you feel invisible there, it will only get worse with age. The "bubble society" has no real community. Use it for earning money ONLY, then leave before it drains your soul.

> ADVICE

- Don't try to be happy there if you're a misfit — use it for money, not life
- Bust your ass, save aggressively — higher salaries = faster wealth
- Build a net worth — income-generating assets
- Then LEAVE — take money to lower-cost country
- Don't stay out of obligation — family visits are temporary
- If you're happy there, stay — not everyone hates it
- If you're invisible, leave — numbness worsens with age
- Understand that success doesn't guarantee happiness there
- You can be wealthy and still feel like a nobody
- The culture values certain demographics over others
- If you don't fit the mold, you'll feel it daily
- Don't expect community — everyone lives in bubbles
- Kids don't play outside anymore; neighbors don't interact
- The social fabric has deteriorated significantly
- People are private, isolated, and afraid
- You can't speak freely — political correctness is everywhere
- The culture is hostile to introverts
- Extroverts who fit in will do well
- Misfits will struggle no matter how successful they are
- Use America for what it's good for — earning money
- Don't try to find meaning or community there
- The emotional drain is real and cumulative
- Depression leads to low energy which leads to more depression
- It's a vicious cycle that's hard to break while there
- If you're a white male, especially older, you're at a disadvantage
- Three strikes — white, male, straight — and you're out
- The culture will make you feel like a loser even if you're not
- The "vibe" is toxic and competitive
- Everyone is constantly judging you
- You're never good enough in America
- The pressure is relentless
- But the money is good — use that
- Save aggressively, invest, and leave while you're still young enough to enjoy life
- Don't become the broke expat in Asia — build your wealth first
- Having a nest egg is essential for happiness abroad
- If you leave without money, you'll be miserable there too
- Work hard in the US, then escape to where you're valued

> TIPS

- Specific demographics are at a social disadvantage
- Feeling invisible = truly being alone
- "Bubble society" — everyone lives in private isolation
- You might as well be in an old folks' home waiting to die
- Treat it like a job site — earn, save, get out
- Don't try to fix it — leave instead
- High salaries are the only real benefit
- Good nature exists but you need energy to enjoy it
- Depression kills energy — you won't visit the parks anyway
- Political correctness stifles authentic interaction
- People are afraid to be themselves
- Community is dead in many places
- Everyone is busy, working, and disconnected
- Even with friends, traffic makes it hard to meet
- San Francisco is specifically mentioned as lonely
- The Bay Area is tough for social connection
- People watch what they say constantly
- The culture rewards extreme extroverts
- Introverts and misfits are punished
- If you fit in, you're blessed — stay
- If you don't fit in, leave as soon as possible
- The social culture is toxic and draining
- Material success doesn't fix the emptiness
- You can be married, own a house, have kids — and still feel empty
- The "American Dream" is a facade if you don't fit the culture
- Many people are depressed but won't admit it
- Men especially hide their loneliness and disappointment
- Pride prevents them from admitting they're struggling
- The "vibe" in America is competitive and judgmental
- It's a culture that makes you feel like a loser
- Even successful people feel like nobodies
- The problem is systemic, not personal
- You can't fix it by trying harder
- You have to leave

< "Being invisible is truly being alone."

< "Three strikes and you're out as far as your value in society goes."
< "When I go outside, everybody's private. Everyone lives in bubbles."
< "Your soul is not getting fed. You might as well be in an old folks' home waiting to die."
< "When I go out in America, I feel like I'm a true nobody."
< "Even if I was married with a house and kids, if I don't fit in, I'm still just going through the motions."
< "I was firing on maybe half my cylinders when I was in the US."
< "The US rewards successful people — but even success doesn't save you."
< "I felt drained in the US. I didn't have the energy to go anywhere."
< "You can't speak freely in the US — you always have to watch what you say."
< "People are private, isolated, and afraid in America today."
< "When I was a kid, people played outdoors and neighbors were close. Not anymore."
< "Being a white male in the US is already a big negative, especially as you get older."
< "You might be successful by US standards and still feel like nothing."
< "The culture makes you feel like you're not good enough, you're a loser, you need to change."


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📊 MASTER RANKING TABLE — SUMMARY
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┌───────────────┬─────────────┬──────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ RANK │ COUNTRY │ BEST FOR │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ SS — GOD TIER │ (None) │ Perfect country doesn't exist │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ S — TOP TIER │ Philippines │ Misfits, eccentrics, easy dating, acceptance │
│ │ Malaysia │ Value, infrastructure, overlooked gem │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ A — GREAT │ Vietnam │ Digital nomads, energy, cosmopolitan dating │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ B — GOOD │ Thailand │ Tourists, casual fun, NOT serious marriage │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ C — AVERAGE │ (None) │ — │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ D — POOR │ Colombia │ Under-35 extroverts who accept high risk │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ E — BAD │ USA │ Earning money ONLY — not for living │
├───────────────┼─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ F — FAIL │ (None) │ — │
└───────────────┴─────────────┴──────────────────────────────────────────────┘


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🌍 GENERAL ADVICE — ALL COUNTRIES (circa 2022)
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CORE PRINCIPLES
- THE VIBE IS EVERYTHING — politics, economics, and freedoms matter less than how you feel daily
- TEST BEFORE YOU COMMIT — weeks/months, not a vacation
- DON'T GO ABROAD BROKE — subsistence expat life is miserable
- RESEARCH CITIES, NOT JUST COUNTRIES — each city is different
- CONSIDER YOUR AGE, PERSONALITY, AND FIT — not every country works for everyone
- LEARN THE LOCAL LANGUAGE — huge advantage for dating and social life
- WATCH YOUR FINANCES — costs are rising everywhere
- BUILD MULTIPLE INCOME STREAMS — don't rely on one source
- DON'T TRUST OFFICIAL TRAVEL ADVISORIES BLINDLY — they exaggerate or conflate risks
- YOUR BODY KNOWS BEFORE YOUR MIND DOES — listen to how you feel

PRACTICAL TIPS
- Spend at least a month in a place before deciding to live there
- Understand the local dating culture before pursuing relationships
- Meet long-term expats, not just tourists — they know the real situation
- Learn the specific dangers of each country — they're different everywhere
- Don't assume your experience in one city applies to the whole country
- Consider your age relative to the local dating market
- Understand that local women have different expectations than Western women
- Research visa requirements thoroughly before committing
- Have a backup plan if things go wrong
- Keep your finances separate and secure
- Don't invest everything in one country or one relationship
- Be realistic about what you can afford
- Understand the local healthcare system
- Know how to get out quickly if needed
- Have an emergency fund
- Build a network of trusted people in your new country
- Don't isolate yourself — get involved in the community
- Learn the local etiquette and customs
- Be respectful of local culture
- Don't expect things to work like they do back home
- Be flexible and adaptable
- Have realistic expectations — no country is perfect
- Understand that the "vibe" is the most important factor
- If you feel drained, leave
- If you feel alive, stay
- Trust your instincts

CRITICAL WARNINGS
- Being broke in a foreign country is hell. Being a broke foreigner is worse than being a broke local.
- Foreigners are held to different standards than locals. Dating is not the same everywhere.
- Hidden xenophobia exists in many places. What works in one country won't work in another.
- Travel advisories are often inaccurate. Social media has changed cultures dramatically.
- What was true 10 years ago — or even in 2022 — may not be true today.
- Test everything for yourself. Don't rely on online research alone.
- You have to experience the vibe in person. Your body will tell you if it's right.
- If it feels wrong, it is wrong. Don't try to force it. Move on. Keep searching.

CRITICAL WARNINGS
- Being broke in a foreign country is hell
- Being a broke foreigner is worse than being a broke local
- Foreigners are held to different standards
- Dating is not the same everywhere
- What works in one country won't work in another
- Hidden xenophobia exists in many places
- Crime risks are different in every country
- Colombia = sophisticated crime (circa 2022)
- Thailand = hidden hostility (circa 2022)
- USA = emotional numbness (circa 2022)
- Philippines = non-judgmental acceptance (circa 2022)
- Vietnam = cosmopolitan but harder dating (circa 2022)
- Malaysia = overlooked gem (circa 2022)
- Travel advisories are often inaccurate
- Social media has changed cultures
- What was true 10 years ago may not be true today
- What works for one person may not work for you
- Test everything for yourself
- Don't rely on online research alone
- You have to experience the vibe in person
- Your body will tell you if it's right
- If it feels wrong, it is wrong
- Don't try to force it
- Move on to the next place
- Keep searching until you find the right fit

THE ULTIMATE INSIGHT
There are many countries in the world. You have to think about your age, your personality, and where you might fit in. It's not that easy to just go abroad and fix everything. You really have to do research and test traveling. Go there and spend a couple weeks or a month and see how you feel.

< "The vibe is everything — it affects you every day, more than politics which is just on TV."

< "If everybody is friendly everywhere, the word 'friendliness' loses its meaning."
< "You have to do a lot of research and test traveling. Go there and spend a couple weeks or a month and see how you feel."
< "Being broke sucks — I don't care what country you're in."
< "Your body will tell you in days what your mind can't figure out in months. Listen to the vibe."
< "When you wake up and feel good, it's priceless. When you're depressed, you just feel like crap."
< "You have to think about your age, your personality, and where you might fit in."
< "Location can really affect the subtleties of how you feel on a day-to-day basis."
< "Part of it is weather, but a lot of it has to do with human interaction."
< "When you go to a different part of the world, your body automatically has a different vibe or feeling."
< "It's sad that people don't talk about the vibe — only politics or economics."
< "The social culture and the vibe affects you more than politics which is just on TV."
< "If you're depressed and isolated, every day feels the same. You're not living — you're just waiting."
< "Your soul is not getting fed in the wrong country."
< "You might go to one country and feel like crap, and another and feel like a kid again."
< "The vibe matters more than anything."
< "Some places have a good vibe and some don't — people avoid that topic."
< "To be truly friendly, there has to be truly unfriendly. For light, there has to be dark."
< "The media says everyone is friendly everywhere — that makes the word meaningless."
< "You have to experience it to know what I mean — it's beyond words."
< "When you find the right location, it brings the best out of you."
< "Location changes your daily experience more than anything else."
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FINAL REMINDER
This information reflects the experiences and opinions of three individuals in 2022. All prices, visa policies, crime statistics, and cultural dynamics may have changed. Always verify current conditions before making any life decisions. This is not professional or financial advice.
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 No.11713

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>>11581
Always comes full circle, huh?
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 No.11737

>>11713
It's always about cumming.
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 No.11787

https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/2108700.html
This is what y'all look like
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 No.11791

>>11787
We're anti-captialist though
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 No.11792

>>11791
>We're anti-captialist
What does that even mean? What, like you're too broke to buy things so sour grapes, so you act like you didn't even want it anyway.
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 No.11794

>>11792
>What, like you're too broke to buy things so sour grapes,
Well it's not just that, but we blame capitalism for not getting what we want.
>so you act like you didn't even want it anyway.
Haha no liberals do that, we very much act like we want it.
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 No.11901

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>>11712
> Understand the dowry system (sin sod) before proposing
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 No.11905

I've stopped going out to save up for my trip to Brazil. Mentally, if feels like this huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I wasn't getting anywhere with American girls. It's so nice to just decompress all weekend without having to endure the humiliation ritual that is dating in America.
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 No.11914

>>11905
>the humiliation ritual that is dating in America.
this
Even with rising Americanization, Mexican girls are still refreshing.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to see a post on your experience. Cheers
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 No.11921

>>11901
This is a cold truth most passport bros don’t wanna hear
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 No.11930

>>11921
It's not the truth, this is just butt hurt western chauvinism.
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 No.11933

>>11930
>>11921
No matter the joint, the skirts are all cut from the same cloth
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 No.11934

>>11933
You need to leave whatever podunk town you're posting from.
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 No.11935

>>11930
>>11934
>noooo don’t kill my idealized impression of third-world women

Cope and seethe.

>>11933
This
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 No.11938

>>11935
>>noooo don’t kill my idealized impression of third-world women
>N-n-n-no one's ever traveled regularly or lived abroad. They're all trapped in some backwater village like me.
Cope townie.
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 No.11941

>>11938
Explain how I’m wrong.
Yea there’s men who lived happily ever after with their third world brides but there’s also a lot of men whom aren’t so lucky

You assuming that second/third world women are more virtuous just because they don’t have 1:1 amenities like first world women do is naive projection.

In the third world, local men are plagued by the same patriarchal standards as in the west.

A first world male loser getting validation from third world women is mainly because of the exotica
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 No.11947

>>11941
>>11933
personally i think if you meet your wife anywhere outside of your mudhut village it's sexpat behavior. everyone should stay exactly where they were born and marry their cousin otherwise they're sexpat rootless cosmopolitan scabs.
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 No.11949

>>11947
Nice strawman but be serious. Do you really think that an awkward physiognomically challenged male with mediocre talents and finances will secure a third world woman over a good looking talented rich guy?
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 No.11957

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 No.11973

>>11941
This chauvinism comes from this idea that American women are uniquely enlightened and empowered to consent to adult relationships like marriage, while women outside the west are too stupid and poor to also do so.
Western women seem to think that because they live in the wealthiest country in the world, that somehow makes them wealthy as well but even a cursory look at US society shows that if anything, US women are as poor and uneducated on average as anyone in developing countries. There's places in the rural south that are every bit as impoverished as the 'shitholes' women in places like the Philippines live in.
Two, not every man dates in developing countries, I myself have dated in Germany and the UK, which you can't label as '3rd world' countries.
And even in poor countries, not everyone is poor, these countries have Universities and professionals like nurses and engineers. People like you seem to think all these women live in famine stricken Sub Sharan Africa.
And 3, I'd say maybe 10% of women in any country is seriously interested in dating a US man. You have to leave your entire life behind and live in another country to be a spouse. It's not something everyone is interested in doing.
4th, if you actually talked to any of these foreign national brides about why they married an American. You'd find that the majority of them say it's because their American husband treated them much better than the local men. For all you feminists howling about patriarchy in the west, the US pales in comparison to some of the genuine patriarchies in developing countries. So when a woman actually escapes a patriarchy you're there to tear her down because she's brown and poor. It's pure bigotry.
5th, yes dating is better outside the US. The US and Japan have absolutely horrid gender relations. The US and Japan are high functioning fascist regimes and fascist states always have bizarre relationships with sex.
There are assumptions in the US and Japan that absolutely confound women in the rest of the world.
This sexually repression is why the US and Japan are the world's leaders in both producing and consuming phonography, along with a whole host of other sex related maladies.
Sorry, but you can walk down the street of many cities and talk to women, even really attractive ones, without being treated like you're a rapist lying in wait.
You can go on dates that don't require $200+ out lay. It really is warped how relationships function here and you have no idea how dysfunctional you are because you are subsumbed in it.
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 No.11985

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>>11973
I'm ashamed to say it, vapidity and narcissism look like the stock-in-trade for a whale of a lot of these skirts.
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 No.11991

>>11985
What is wrong with the first clip? Isn't it proving that men are pedophiles if they can be? Where are you disproving it by posting this?
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 No.12006

>>11991
>men are pedophiles

Wdtmbt

I swear this jealousy of youth has gotten way too out of hand.
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 No.12007

>>12006
pedo.
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 No.12009

>>11973
>This chauvinism comes from this idea that American women are uniquely enlightened and empowered to consent to adult relationships like marriage, while women outside the west are too stupid and poor to also do so.

And you’re playing into that angle by putting third world women on a pedestal.
Western radlib women aren’t really enlightened but neither are their redpill counterparts.

>Western women seem to think that because they live in the wealthiest country in the world, that somehow makes them wealthy as well but even a cursory look at US society shows that if anything, US women are as poor and uneducated on average as anyone in developing countries. There's places in the rural south that are every bit as impoverished as the 'shitholes' women in places like the Philippines live in.


America spends more money on education compared to third world countries. The problem is there’s a serious lack of technical skill classes and there’s no academic classification based on competency rather than age.

Also there’s this common sentiment that education automatically means empathy. Yet, from what I see, academic institutions breed bias and tribalism both on the social and intellectual fronts.

>Two, not every man dates in developing countries, I myself have dated in Germany and the UK, which you can't label as '3rd world' countries.


That has nothing to do what what I’m saying though.

>And even in poor countries, not everyone is poor, these countries have Universities and professionals like nurses and engineers. People like you seem to think all these women live in famine stricken Sub Sharan Africa.


My parents are Caribbean immigrants as they graduated from the best schools there. Of course there’s prestigious academic institutions in the third world. But you’re forgetting that economic inequality there is much more pronounced. Also speaking of Sun-Saharan Africans, did you know that African black immigrants in the US are more likely to have college degrees in engineering and medicine compared to their American-born black counterparts?

>And 3, I'd say maybe 10% of women in any country is seriously interested in dating a US man. You have to leave your entire life behind and live in another country to be a spouse. It's not something everyone is interested in doing.


Because third world women have been indoctrinated by imperialism that “America/Western Europe means richness” so of course they will gravitate toward you

>4th, if you actually talked to any of these foreign national brides about why they married an American. You'd find that the majority of them say it's because their American husband treated them much better than the local men. For all you feminists howling about patriarchy in the west, the US pales in comparison to some of the genuine patriarchies in developing countries. So when a woman actually escapes a patriarchy you're there to tear her down because she's brown and poor. It's pure bigotry.


There’s some truth to this. However, the local men are just as browbeaten and they’re overlooked. Just because patriarchy exists in those countries doesn’t mean the average man there is all Uber-macho woman-beater


>>12007
>Liking youthful adult features makes one a pedo.
>Anon is unable to differentiate between literal toddler like physiognomic features from young adult features.

NGMI
Sorry anon but not everyone is interested in wrinkled hags.
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 No.12010

>>11973
>5th, yes dating is better outside the US. The US and Japan have absolutely horrid gender relations. The US and Japan are high functioning fascist regimes and fascist states always have bizarre relationships with sex.
There are assumptions in the US and Japan that absolutely confound women in the rest of the world.
This sexually repression is why the US and Japan are the world's leaders in both producing and consuming phonography, along with a whole host of other sex related maladies.

Sexual repression isn’t unique to US and Japan.

>Sorry, but you can walk down the street of many cities and talk to women, even really attractive ones, without being treated like you're a rapist lying in wait.

You can go on dates that don't require $200+ out lay. It really is warped how relationships function here and you have no idea how dysfunctional you are because you are subsumbed in it.

Again, that’s because you’re a first world man entering into third world countries so they’re gonna treat you like a king. If you’re a third world man, you’re just seen as a fellow peasant undeserving of even a glance.
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 No.12012

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>>12009
>And you’re playing into that angle by putting third world women on a pedestal.
No, it's your western chauvinism deflecting criticism. You just can't believe the West is the one wrong on this. Even though every indicator points to it being so.
>Western radlib women aren’t really enlightened but neither are their redpill counterparts.
AHAHAHAHA foreign national women are not 'redpilled'. No one outside the US has even heard of these terms. That's how mind fucked you are by feminism and bigotry.
>America spends more money on education compared to third world countries. The problem is there’s a serious lack of technical skill classes and there’s no academic classification based on competency rather than age.
No, America is highly economically stratified. Yes, there's premier schools in rich communities, but most children are attending deeply neglected schools in middle class or poor communities.
And again, there's professional classes and industry even in most developing countries. You really believe the West is the only one with a University system huh?
>Also there’s this common sentiment that education automatically means empathy. Yet, from what I see, academic institutions breed bias and tribalism both on the social and intellectual fronts.
Many foreign national women even in 3rd world countries are college educated from accredited schools. This ain't the Cold War anymore Boomer. The global south has been growing by leaps and bounds in the last few decades. Immigration is actually falling from some countries like Mexico. The US isn't growing like it was in 30 years ago. You're not the main character anymore like you think.
>That has nothing to do what what I’m saying though.
It does, you accuse every foreign national bride of chasing a US green card. You're so ignorant you don't even realize that many foreign national women have it way better than US women do in terms of everything. Places like Singapore, Japan, Western Europe, Australia, all offer better quality of life than the US for the average person.
And yet bigots like you always post the old conniving east Asian woman sterotype.
>Of course there’s prestigious academic institutions in the third world. But you’re forgetting that economic inequality there is much more pronounced.
Economic inequality is the worst in the US than in any place in the world you dumb fucking gorilla.
>Because third world women have been indoctrinated by imperialism that “America/Western Europe means richness” so of course they will gravitate toward you
No dumbass, they don't gravitate toward US men. It's a myth, that's my point. No one in any country generally wants to marry a foreign national because they have to rearrange EVERYTHING in their lives. Again you're ignorance shows, you really think because you saw some women throwing themselves at US men in a night club every woman in that country wants a US man.
>There’s some truth to this. However, the local men are just as browbeaten and they’re overlooked. Just because patriarchy exists in those countries doesn’t mean the average man there is all Uber-macho woman-beater
It's not some truth. It's all truth. Women have the most rights by far in the US and Western Europe. Even Japan I would consider a patriarchy. And like I said, you are an ugly two faced misogynist. You preach about the dangers of patriarchy but tear women and their partners down for actually escaping it.

Lastly you are EXTREMELY ignorant about the immigration process for foreign national brides. You sound like some decomposing Boomer mad that they didn't have the emotional intelligence to not marry the first woman that batted their eyes at them.
The process for getting permanent status is extremely invasive. You are constantly interviewed and asked to produce proof for various claims you make about your relationship. The probation period is several years, but if you think you can divorce your husband right after that, they still have discretion to end your citizenship if they feel you're getting divorced for unreasonable reasons. With all those huddles only the most motivated women immigrate to the US via marriage.

And another reason many of the women do immigrate is because for a variety of reasons, they didn't fit in with their own home country. A lot of times this is due to virulent racism against them. While you may see a much more attractive woman with an ugly American guy, in their home country they're considered a Frankenstein simply because of their ethnic features. Of course people like you that claim to be oh so concerned with women's welfare, would rather have that woman continue to be abused and discriminated against in her home country just to keep some rando alone because your own country men so so much.
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 No.12017

>>12012
*because you hate your own country men so so much.
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 No.12046

>>12012
> No, it's your western chauvinism deflecting criticism. You just can't believe the West is the one wrong on this. Even though every indicator points to it being so

Show me evidence

> It's not some truth. It's all truth. Women have the most rights by far in the US and Western Europe. Even Japan I would consider a patriarchy. And like I said, you are an ugly two faced misogynist. You preach about the dangers of patriarchy but tear women and their partners down for actually escaping it.


So I went from being Allie’s a feminist cuck to being a misogynist? Damn, you’re really on a roll today.

I never said women don’t have more rights in the west. All I said is that third world men aren’t all chauvinistic as you’d like to think. Patriarchy is hard on them as well.

> Lastly you are EXTREMELY ignorant about the immigration process for foreign national brides. You sound like some decomposing Boomer mad that they didn't have the emotional intelligence to not marry the first woman that batted their eyes at them.


Boomer men are the first postmodern expatriates wtf you talking about? I see more boomer males with ethnic wives.
You’re the one that’s ignorant.
Also, it’s millennials and zoomers whom aren’t marrying the first person that showed interest in them.

> The process for getting permanent status is extremely invasive. You are constantly interviewed and asked to produce proof for various claims you make about your relationship. The probation period is several years, but if you think you can divorce your husband right after that, they still have discretion to end your citizenship if they feel you're getting divorced for unreasonable reasons. With all those huddles only the most motivated women immigrate to the US via marriage


Are you aware that people have managed to get pay off officials or that people can enter illegally as customer service workers?

Also, that only the most motivated third world women move to the US doesn’t really debunk my claim.

> And another reason many of the women do immigrate is because for a variety of reasons, they didn't fit in with their own home country. A lot of times this is due to virulent racism against them. While you may see a much more attractive woman with an ugly American guy, in their home country they're considered a Frankenstein simply because of their ethnic features


Maybe in places where there’s more than one ethnic group living amongst them. But men also face great racism as well, but I bet you don’t care about them.

I find it hard to believe that beautiful women are treated as ugly just due to ethnic features alone even if by mere racism.

> Of course people like you that claim to be oh so concerned with women's welfare, would rather have that woman continue to be abused and discriminated against in her home country just to keep some rando alone because your own country men so so much.


You only care about their world women because they could be potential wife material. You don’t care about them at all outside of that. If third world women were to become #foreversingle or #exclusivelylesbian, you’d probably not like them as much.
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 No.12047

>>12046
>Show me evidence
I've already have, the phonography consumption, the falling birthrates, the exploding number of incels. All Western problems.
>So I went from being Allie’s a feminist cuck to being a misogynist? Damn, you’re really on a roll today.
Yes you dumbfuck. You feminsts are actually fucking misogynists. It's all fucking projection. You fucking painted 100's of millions of women as duplicitous rats. All because of what? They're having sex with someone you don't like. Get over your fucking self. You sound exactly like a male incel. All hot and bothered about what other people are doing in their bedrooms.
>Boomer men are the first postmodern expatriates wtf you talking about? I see more boomer males with ethnic wives.
They're also the ones with this myopic view of immigration. That's why so many of them are MAGA. Point is it's extremely fucking hard to get a green card even if you wed a US man. This idea that all it takes is to ensnare a naive guy by throwing some ass at him is a pure Boomerism.
>Are you aware that people have managed to get pay off officials or that people can enter illegally as customer service workers?
Yeah yeah, and their busing in illegals to vote for Biden. Just STFU you Fox News watching Boomer.
>I find it hard to believe that beautiful women are treated as ugly just due to ethnic features alone even if by mere racism.
East Asia is especially racist to dark skinned women. You'd know that if you actually fucking traveled anywhere.
>You only care about their world women because they could be potential wife material.
It's actually because I have a lot of friends who are married to foreign nationals. I've traveled and lived abroad my whole life. I know it's hard for you to understand this having lived in the same town your whole life, but there are people that travel as a lifestyle. Military personnel, ambassadors, Oil and mineral personnel, UN envoys etc. It's a big world out there, and you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. You're just supremely ignorant, and representative of the average burger with no first hand experience of anything outside of burgerland but still postures themselves as some kind of worldly sage.
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 No.12048

>>12047
*pornography consumption,
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 No.12049

>>12047
> I've already have, the phonography consumption, the falling birthrates, the exploding number of incels. All Western problems

Not exclusively western. It’s creeping up in the global south and east.

> Yes you dumbfuck. You feminsts are actually fucking misogynists. It's all fucking projection. You fucking painted 100's of millions of women as duplicitous rats. All because of what? They're having sex with someone you don't like. Get over your fucking self. You sound exactly like a male incel. All hot and bothered about what other people are doing in their bedrooms.


Anon, are you the one saying women should be sexual servants of men? Aren’t you the one saying that women being volcels is selfish?
That’s misogyny.
Don’t try to twist the tables on me.
I have no problem with expatriates but I don’t like the blind fetishization of third world women as being “easier” just because their respective socioethnospheres don’t preach radlib feminism.
I also find it funny you call me an incel, when you’re getting all hot and bothered about women not wanting to give out sex freely to men.
You’re the one getting all hot and bothered about male homosexuality, accusing it of being an agenda.

> They're also the ones with this myopic view of immigration. That's why so many of them are MAGA. Point is it's extremely fucking hard to get a green card even if you wed a US man. This idea that all it takes is to ensnare a naive guy by throwing some ass at him is a pure Boomerism


There’s also a lot of millennials, zoomers, and Gen X whom are MAGA.
Also, there have been incidents of ensnarement from both parties.

> Yeah yeah, and their busing in illegals to vote for Biden. Just STFU you Fox News watching Boomer


Funnily enough, Trump and his ilk have exploited more illegal immigrants than Biden.
There were more deported illegal immigrants under Obama and Biden combined than Trump.

Look man. All I’m saying is that a expatriations for sex and marriage aren’t all what they’re cracked out to be.
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 No.12050

>>12012
> Economic inequality is the worst in the US than in any place in the world you dumb fucking gorilla

Compared to? There are places on earth where commoners cannot even afford air conditioning or a car and they live a few blocks away from rich people.

> Many foreign national women even in 3rd world countries are college educated from accredited schools.


Yes, that’s what I said. A lot of immigrants are often college educated.

> This ain't the Cold War anymore Boomer. The global south has been growing by leaps and bounds in the last few decades.


Not a boomer, also we may be entering a second Cold War.


>Immigration is actually falling from some countries like Mexico. The US isn't growing like it was in 30 years ago. You're not the main character anymore like you think.


Because it’s Southeast Asia that’s taking over, and rightfully so. Our cars and electronics are all made from South east Asia
Most of our currently popular animation is made from Southeast Asia or it’s ethnocultural proxies.

> No, America is highly economically stratified. Yes, there's premier schools in rich communities, but most children are attending deeply neglected schools in middle class or poor communities.


Now this I doubt. Most kids are attending relatively middle class schools. The real question is problem with zoning and academic gauging of competency.

>And again, there's professional classes and industry even in most developing countries. You really believe the West is the only one with a University system huh?


Most college student immigrants go to America or Western Europe.
Of course America isn’t the only place with a university system but it seems to be the one with the biggest foreign exchange clientele.

Also, most second/third world countries have academic systems that still value technical skills compared to Western Europe and North America.

If anything, our academic systems are built on reckless overpromotion.
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 No.12051

>>12049
>Not exclusively western. It’s creeping up in the global south and east.
It's orders of magnitude worse in the west. Cope sex scold.
>Anon, are you the one saying women should be sexual servants of men? Aren’t you the one saying that women being volcels is selfish?
I see you're just going to pull shit from your ass now. I said nothing like this. Are you just coping output from an AI?
>Don’t try to twist the tables on me.
Don't try to act all cool and moderate now choom. You're the one posting videos of east Asian women scamming men. Don't try to act like you're not using the already present stigma of "mail order brides" against these women. All because you can't handle non-western women fucking men you don't approve of.
>I have no problem with expatriates but I don’t like the blind fetishization of third world women as being “easier” just because their respective socioethnospheres don’t preach radlib feminism.
Well one many of them are taught feminism to one degree or another. And two, sorry but you're just going to have to face facts. Feminism is just settler colonialism but for vagina havers. It's not that women are easier outside the west because they're not feminists, it's that being from the global south they have nothing to gain from adopting the rabid politics of western roasties.
Western roasties have adopted the superstructure of the imperialist core they inhabit. They want to colonize their own men because the entire US operates that way. Almost all of feminist discourse boils down to "Hey, why can't women exploit the global south too!"
It's why feminist like you are so bothered by foreign national brides. You want everyone to believe that the domineering personality of a western roastie is the default because that's the type of woman the US imperial core produces. But the material conditions of other countries just don't produce ball busters like that, and a simple trip shatters the illusion.
>I also find it funny you call me an incel, when you’re getting all hot and bothered about women not wanting to give out sex freely to men.
That's just your ugly presumption about foreign national brides. I never said or implied that foreign national women were giving out sex. I said that it is easier to date overseas, not because foreign cultures are particularly morally better, but because the US is so toxic. And that's true, cope and seethe all you want about it. Or try to make is seem like fetishization of 3rd world women. Dating and building relationships are not supposed to be a constant fight. You meet someone, and it goes somewhere, and then you get married. That's it. It's only complex in the US because of people like you that have poisoned gender relations.
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 No.12052

>>12049
>I also find it funny you call me an incel,
You're an incel because you have so many opinions on who other people are fucking. You're literally just the female version of the "Did you forget to ask someone".
You're a loser who is trying to stop two consenting adults from fucking with these goldbergian copes.
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 No.12076

NBA YoungBoy Reveals He Lives In South Korea, Won't Return To The United States

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/1005529-nba-youngboy-south-korea-united-states

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