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You some kind of journalist?

>>11331

I'm a curious person that was BAFFLED by this ideology when i saw it here

>>11332
We apply simply materialism to the western dating culture. Turbo libs like you are so confounded by this because you've been so successful in gaslighting men for so long with an admittedly impressive nearly perfect solid wall of misinformation.
So stating obvious and materially objective facts like that men have worse material outcomes by nearly every measure (dies sooner, suffers poverty and violence more, suffers sexual assault at nearly parity to women).
And that no oppressive system leaves the oppressor fuggin' WORSE off than the ones they're subjugating.
Or that 'beauty is power'.
You immediately try to use social capital and pretend to acted shocked that someone would 'believe' such things.

>>11340

>… and pretend to acted shocked that someone would 'believe' such things.

You're wrong. I'm genuinely shocked.

Please, tell me more about what you mean by "Applying materialism to dating culture"

I don't have money, so I don't have sex, it's as simple as that
It seems impossible to find a woman who doesn't chase the money, especially in a small village

>>11349
>You're wrong. I'm genuinely shocked.
No, you're just defecting criticism liberalism by using passive-aggressive ostracization. You libs ALWAYS do this, it's so predictable.
If you were genuinely just curious you wouldn't immediately do the Reddit "LitTerAllY ShaKinG" act.
>Please, tell me more about what you mean by "Applying materialism to dating culture"
I already gave you 2 examples so I already know you're asking in bad faith, but I'll humor you for now for the sake of other people lurking.
In order to maintain private property violence must be used. But regardless of how superior your strength might be against an opponent you are absorbing risk anytime you employ violence against anyone. History is riddled with 'David and Goliath' stories. The booj cannot maintain their class if they're own well being is constantly being threatened. They need cannon fodder.
The role of cannon fodder falls on men because of how materially human reproduction works. One man can have many babies at once, while women can at most have one or two at a times. Therefore for any hierarchical like capitalism to perpetuate itself, it needs all women to reproduce, but only a small number of men. The spare men are used to absorb the risk associated with using violence to uphold private property.
Women, at least women that can potentially reproduce, are treated better than men, they have to be. From these simply and undeniable material realities a whole host of political dialogs emerge.
The superstructure frames men as dangerous animals, to justify the inhumane disposable status that's imposed on them.
This is why libs like you faint shock at "incel ideology". It's because if men are recognized as just being inherently valuable as humans (without caveats) it undermines the entire liberal order.

>>11352
Women were also treated as expendable as well. Women whom were barren were treated terrible.
In wartimes, women who were older and already had kids were killed off.

>>11356
He did say at least women who can potentially reproduce.

>>11356
>Women were also treated as expendable as well.
No, women were never expected to be soldiers or cops. At best there's examples where they were allowed to be. There's next to no examples of an all female or even mostly female warrior caste outside of a very few small tribes in Africa.
>Women whom were barren were treated terrible.
Agreed, but most women are fertile and barren women are treated the same as fertile women now. That is one thing I will give feminist credit for, they do have solidarity for old and barren women, they could leave them out in their advocacy but they don't.
>In wartimes, women who were older and already had kids were killed off.
This isn't true, and regardless, far far more men die in wartime than women.

>>11361
> No, women were never expected to be soldiers or cops. At best there's examples where they were allowed to be. There's next to no examples of an all female or even mostly female warrior caste outside of a very few small tribes in Africa.

Have you heard of war brides/whores?

> This isn't true, and regardless, far far more men die in wartime than women.

Now you’re in denial.

>>11361
> Agreed, but most women are fertile and barren women are treated the same as fertile women now. That is one thing I will give feminist credit for, they do have solidarity for old and barren women, they could leave them out in their advocacy but they don't


Feminists only use old and barren women as a defense against mens hebephilic tendencies.
Outside of that, they don’t really care too much about them.

>>11340
Not OP but this is the only good argument on this thread so far

Celibacy is a choice, not a sexual orientation. They just haven't found the right person yet. Some might've been sexually abused as a child. They also need to have their hormones checked. You know, they make Viagra for that.

It's just a phase, they'll grow out of it.

>>11370
>It's just a phase, they'll grow out of it.

It’s a long dragged out phase it seems. We have anons in their thirties whining about not finding a virginal intact woman. They’ve never been laid before at all.

>>11371
When you deal with the general population, there's a subset of mentally and emotionally unwell people. Social scientists estimates it to be around 5% of the population. Those are the people that you see trolling and shit posting online.

>>11372
>>11329
>How do you even come up with such ideas?
By using logic and facts.

>Does the world really looks like this to you?
Yes.

>All hostile and greedy evil women who want to manage sex market?
Yes.

>They don't give us sex so they shut our mouths?
This isn't even a coherent sentence, so I will hereby call you a uyghur, you fucking uyghur.

>>11349
Recognizing that the Gini coefficient of the sex market is more unequal than the most financially unequal countries on the planet.

>>11364
>Feminists only use old and barren women as a defense against mens hebephilic tendencies.
This is why we need meninism. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

>>11370
>>11372
>Being poor is a choice, not an economic class. You just haven't worked hard enough.
That's you. That's what you sound like.

>>11372
I don't say no, but to assume inceldom is some passing teen fad when it's mainly late prime-age adults doing it seems kinda shallow.

Also, do you believe that mental illness is exaggerated nowadays?

I think it is.
There's a difference between being disillusioned and being mentally ill.

>>11374
Please seek help.
I don't think you're mentally ill, I just think you're very petty in your reasoning. You need to be forced to be a store clerk in a ghetto having to put up with obnoxious people for the rest of you life.

>>11372
>Those are the people that you see trolling and shit posting online.

Wrong. Most troll posts are made by mentally sound people.
Mental illness isn’t always loud and aggressively antagonistic.

>>11376
>Only mentally I'll people criticise liberalism
Now this is gaslighting!

>>11379
*mentally ill

>>11329
There's men who have gotten 0 dates and nothing but rejections for 10-20+ years. They'll latch onto any explanations when no one actually accommodates them legally outside a few women in IPSA in California..

>>11383
IPSA?

>>11376
I've already put up with obnoxious people my entire life. I'm quoting an obnoxious person's post now.

>>11379
>>11385
T. Whiny ass post-pubescent male wasting away his cognitive faculties over getting lucky with a nubile virginal female

>>11374
> By using logic and facts.

You know this is how a lot of delusional people think? That their reasoning is based on “facts and logic”?

> This is why we need meninism. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

And this is why I cannot respect you.
“Meninism”? You mean masculinism.

<Being poor is a choice, not an economic class. You just haven't worked hard enough.
>That's you. That's what you sound like

False equivalency. Although, poverty can be a choice.
But, celibacy is almost always a choice. You have the choice to fuck women but you choose not to because most of the ones “available to you” are “washed up bags”.

If celibacy wasn’t a choice, it would imply that you’re living in a anthropogeographic void, where the only living creatures except yourselves are non-homo spaien animls