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 No.131[View All]

Incel humor thread.
201 posts and 117 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.
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 No.1460

>>1458
You have not provided a rebuttal to the environmental factors argument.
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 No.1461

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>>1458
>>1459
Adhom fallacies are the sign of a small mind.
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 No.1463

>>1458
You are acting in defense of capitalism, rather than accepting the system is broken, you attempt to divert blame on individual people.

Capitalism makes it impossible for the majority of people to reach their full potential.
Because for some reason you feel compelled to defend capitalism you declare that the majority of people are just kinda shit, rather than see that capitalism made them that way.

>>1459
It reeks of capitalist-shill to attack people that are criticizing capitalism.
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 No.1464

>>1460
>Refute my unfalsifiable assertion now, chud!!!

Ya, fag. The most successful people under any system are those who are best at delaying gratification.

You can train people to do so at a young age, and political/cultural/social/educational systems can be designed to encourage such.

But such a system would also forgo much of your cultural leftism faggotry and liberalism, much the same way that the largest Communist Party of the world does.
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 No.1465

>>1463
Can't both things be true?

The system is rather broken and encourages shit outcomes AND most people, regardless of the system, are rather mediocre.
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 No.1466

>>1462
>>1464
You are retreating into essentialism, inventing a special heroic people.
That is another aspect of capitalist apologetics.

The capitalist system creates a distribution of wealth, power and influence that only enable a very select few people to self-realize. The rulers always seek a justification myth for their extraordinary status. It has taken the form of birth-right, but also claims special of talent. But the reality is the rulers are ordinary, they just got lucky.

The capitalist system does not promote a environment that leads most people to becoming their best possible version of them selves.

Societies are large scale systems where systemic tendencies have much more influence on the end result of a society than individual characteristics of people.
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 No.1467

>>1466
>Spent 10 minutes writing a paragraph. Didn't address the fact that the largest Communist Party in the world wants nothing to do with cultural leftism and abandoned any notion of workers democracy long ago.
What they have opted for is something like the bureacratic management of the total economy through policy mechanism as well as social programs that encourage specific traits among the population. Call it what you will, but it's something much more concrete and realistic.
As I've said, you can't point to a concrete case where some hypothetical 'workers' democracy produced the result you say it will. The reason is simple. Such a workers democracy is an abstract fantasy that, when tried, collapse under the weight of material reality
>Inb4 but muh fuedalism and muh people thought that capitalism was unrealistic.
Well golly jee. Why didn't we just skip to socialism from fuedalism.
Oh, that's right, material constraints that dictated the direction of political economy, much the same way as today.
<If only they had bright people like you designing their system, comrade, things would be different, for sure!!!
I think we can both agree that the current system is fucked. You, however, offer a fantasy-cope solution that's been tried by more qualified and capable people and has never worked. In the process, you forgo structural amendments that are realistic but not pure enough in the eyes of effete faggotry, opting instead to tacitly support the actually existing ruling class against muh dangerous rightoids earning 60k a year.
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 No.1468

>>1465
>Can't both things be true?
>The system is rather broken and encourages shit outcomes AND most people, regardless of the system, are rather mediocre.

Lets assume for the sake of the argument that capitalism has no influence over how people develop. (Capitalism is omnipresent in the lives of people so this is a hypothetical scenario that is not congruent with reality).

In this fictional hypothetical, people just lack the capacity for discipline and the conclusion would not change, you would still blame the design of the system. If people are undisciplined by nature, then you have to build the system to account for that, and make the system for actually existing people.
Otherwise you build an unusable system, comparable to building housing that assume people are 10m/30feet tall and once people complain that they can't reach the amenities, you just accuse them of being too short, instead of fessing up that you screwed up the design.

However all that said, People can be much more than they are under capitalism, the system is designed to degrade people.
For example advertisement is specifically designed to push psychological buttons to by-pass high-brain-function and create an impulse-buy. Because people that think about what they buy are harder to ripp off. Another example food is being designed to be addictive, in order to have repeat-customers, people that eat a lot of junk food have brain-scans that look similar to those that are addicted to crack or heroin.

If you go down this rabbit hole of how people are being nudged, pushed and prodded by the system, if you realise the sheer scale and intensity, you come to the conclusion that most of the people you see now are just a shadow of their full potential. Like some zoo-animal that got stuffed into a zoo-exhibit that isn't species-appropriate.
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 No.1469

>>1468
No real disagreement with this.

Personally, I think there's something of a paradox at play.

On one hand, you want a system which encourages more capable people. On the other, if you simply dictate what people must do, then you're inculcating a sort of slavish mentality. I generally support a sort of system which reigns in the worst and most degradative aspects of capitalism while allowing for the full and free development of individuals.
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 No.1470

>>1467
>Didn't address the fact that the largest Communist Party in the world wants nothing to do with cultural leftism
I don't know what you mean with this.
I'm not sure why you think I'm saying anything about culture.

>abandoned any notion of workers democracy long ago.

You are referencing China right ? They have their own democratic aspirations. They say they are a Deliberative Democracy.
It would derail the debate to much to start analyzing that, but you are denying them the potential for democracy by default, and that's not correct.

>What they have opted for is something like the bureacratic management of the total economy through policy mechanism as well as social programs that encourage specific traits among the population.

Sure China has bureaucratic management, everybody does, western corporations have vast bureaucracies.
The accusation that China has a soft-eugenics program that selects for traits among the population, has to be rejected, there is no evidence of that.
I can't imagine that they would attempt something so unscientific.

>As I've said, you can't point to a concrete case where some hypothetical 'workers' democracy produced the result you say it will. The reason is simple. Such a workers democracy is an abstract fantasy that, when tried, collapse under the weight of material reality.

let me be clear i don't know what you imagine a workers democracy would be like, so i'm going to talk about the workers democracy the way i understand it.

You certainly can't pull one out of your ass and deploy it like a pop up tent, it would take time and dedication to build it. You need higher order social organization to build effective mass participation for a political system. 20th century socialism did not have the technical means, it needs something like the internet just for the logistics.

>Inb4 but muh fuedalism and muh people thought that capitalism was unrealistic.

>Well golly jee. Why didn't we just skip to socialism from fuedalism.
>Oh, that's right, material constraints that dictated the direction of political economy, much the same way as today.
I don't understand how that's related to anything that was discussed.

>I think we can both agree that the current system is fucked.

Indeed

>You, however, offer a fantasy-cope solution that's been tried by more qualified and capable people and has never worked. In the process, you forgo structural amendments that are realistic but not pure enough in the eyes of effete faggotry, opting instead to tacitly support the actually existing ruling class against muh dangerous rightoids earning 60k a year.

I think you have mistaken my political positions. I'm not a liberal telling you to voot the lesser evil.

I'm here to do ideological struggle against capitalist narratives that blame the proletariat for the dis-function of capitalism.
I'm just saying don't blame the proles, blame the system.
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 No.1471

>>1469
>I generally support a sort of system which reigns in the worst and most degradative aspects of capitalism
2 variants that satisfy this criteria, have existed:

One is social democracy, however that only existed along side really hardcore ML-socialism that threatened the capitalist-class with non-existence. As soon as ML states lost influence the capitalists have been categorically refusing moderation.
The other is China, who sometimes execute big capitalists, if they try to push too far.

Can you see the pattern, as long as capitalism exists you get a nicer society to the extend you hold a gun to their heads.

>while allowing for the full and free development of individuals.

That is Star Trek / Orville scifi society.
You can only have free development of individuals if your economic system is money-less.

Consider that money = the power to command labor.
If you have money and you want it to be able to buy something, somebody else needs to be compelled to work for that money.
There is no free development of individuals in that.
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 No.1472

>>1471
>You can only have free development of individuals if your economic system is money-less.
Evidence of this? Of course not
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 No.1473

>>1472
Money isn't based on free association, that's ideology.

Go ahead play it out in your mind, remove all the mechanisms that capitalism uses to compel workers to sell their labor power. Do you still believe money could command labor without that ?
If you answered yes, than make new money and get people to work for it.
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 No.1474

>>1473
Sorry, I quit doing drugs and spend less time in fantasy land these days
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 No.1477

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>being attracted to attractive women is bad, mkay
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 No.1479

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>>142
>I-It just so happens that I date a 6.3+ White pretty boy!
every ethnic "muh raycism" chick ever
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 No.1480

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>>1444
Man, this pic never fails to crack me up. It might as well have been painted by one of the Renaissance Greats.
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 No.1481

>>1477
With those kickin' hips and big 'ol tiddies, how could anyone think these are teens.
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 No.1482

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>19 yo women are old enough to vote and get bottom surgery
>Omg she's dating an older man
Sorry sweetie. Leo doesn't want your roast beef sandwich
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 No.1488

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>>1464
>The most successful people under any system are those who are best at delaying gratification.
our resident chudjak thinks that what determines success in capitalism is how ascetic you are lol
that's what basic economics does to a mf
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 No.1491

>>1482
>roast beef sandwich
Anon you might want to look at that twitter person's profile.
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 No.1493

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 No.1511

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 No.1518

>>1493
What is it with plain janes and becoming infatuated with serial killers? Someone should do a study on this.
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 No.1520

>>1518
It's usually just a form of attention-seeking behaviour. Quite easy to get media coverage for being one of the few weirdos who wants to fuck serial killers.
Other times it's literally just because the killer in question is attractive, like the Boston marathon bomber.
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 No.1555

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 No.1571

Arkansas Proposes Requiring ID to Watch Porn Online | After a similar bill became law in Louisiana last month, seven more states have introduced copycat legislation that force users to show identification.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/akexaz/arkansas-porn-sites-id-age-verification
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 No.1618

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 No.1625

>>1618
>You just need to open up more
Yes Hank, "open up more" about you being a sub5 male. I'm sure this will work wonders..
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 No.1663

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Metal Gear Chad
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 No.1664

>>1663
kek even chad's neighbors are ready to help him out to fool a mad beccy
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 No.1956

>>1942
cute trap
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 No.1960

>>1959
I work with a bitch who has one of these.
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 No.1961

>>1958
I hate women.
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 No.2025

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<I like boobs, so I got fat and have boobs now. Why aren't women interested in me?
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 No.2046

>>139
Can someone explain this retarded shit? This is literally what every leftist zoomer is like these days when this topic comes up.
>Ewww he's 29 and she's 24, Nonce much!?
>A 25 year old dating an 19 year old? GROOMING!

Like what the actual fuck is this shit? It's complete infantilization of adults. I'm in my 30s and I wouldn't date a 20 year old because I find most people under 25 completely fucking insufferable, but I'm not going to lie when I say like a 23 year old is attractive.
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 No.2051

>>2025
>imma senior manager
>why aint people taking me for a human being?
am i high or is it a bait
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 No.2058

>>2046
It's just insecurity. These people feel the need to wield moral authority over others. The Left™ is a good home for them since its defeatism leads to hypermoralization.
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 No.2150

>>2046
>Can someone explain this
If you want to have the rational reasons.

Brains aren't fully matured until 25. You would be maximizing cognitive capacity and emotional stability by delaying sexualization until then. There's also another aspect. If you shift coupling until later in life you select for the cultural-virility-value of longevity.
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 No.2154

>>2150
>Brains aren't fully matured until 25.
Complete bullshit from a study that was purposefully distorted.
What really going on can be explained by Marxism. The Boomer generation owns something like 80% of all property (Stocks, Real Estate etc) and they want to keep young people from voting for progressive policies so they parrot bullshit like 25 year olds still being children. All whole hypocritically telling young people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

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