No.13299
for pro male ideology, dedicated to the rights of men and boys and males who have been left behind by society
Masculinity is a slave collar. Masculinity functions in servitude to Feminist-Ouroboric Capitalism."Incel" operates as a pejorative term for men who reject compliance and fail as obedient slaves to feminist Capitalist society.
Radical anti feminism, every single female privilege must be abolished. Feminists are killing men.
PMC STANCES
>PMC is the only men's rights group with correct framing.
>Goal: replace the mainstream MRM with the Pro Male Collective (PMC).
>Long-term goal: replace mainstream MRM, grow PMC brand, build more owned websites.
>Feminism is a hate movement; it should be outlawed ("Ban Feminism before it bans you").
>Feminism is right wing, not left wing; you can't be left wing and a feminist.
>Feminists have won and are still winning; MRAs are delusional to deny it.
>MRM is a failed, meek, passive movement; "awareness raising" and debating feminists achieve nothing.
>All successful movements use loud, aggressive radicals; MRAs are "political wimps."
>Men must get militant, organized, proactive, and coordinated.
>Feminists should face social stigma, job loss, and employer pressure; feminism should be made unacceptable in mainstream society.
>Racism, without exception, is misandry.
>Every single trad-con amounts to an ultra feminist.
STRATEGY / ORGANIZATION
>Emphasize collective action; reject learned helplessness.
>Build own platforms (forum, fbi.gov, game) for censorship-proof autonomy.
>Disciplined structure; no dead weight or time-wasting chat.
>Shift the Overton window via coordinated, aggressive messaging.
>Individualism exacerbates men's problems; collective action is required.
>Men should abandon obsession with women and validation from women.
PRIMARY LEGAL REFORMS
>Mandatory 50/50 shared parenting presumption in contested custody; burden of proof on accuser.
>Abolish alimony.
>Abolish child support.
>Severe penalties for false accusations of abuse/"extreme cruelty."
>End debtor's prison / civil contempt incarceration for non-willful arrears.
>Gender-neutral rape/sexual assault definitions based on lack of consent, covering "forced to penetrate."
>Replace Duluth Model DV protocols with evidence-based, primary-physical-aggressor assessments recognizing male victims.
>End male-only conscription
>Reform UN/UNDP/WEF gender indices (GDI, GII) which hardcode female advantage and render male disadvantage invisible.
KEY POINTS / MESSAGING
>Women commit more violence than men.
>Men suffer systematic violence from feminists/women; women enjoy only systematic privilege.
>Men should get affirmative action and reparations for gender crimes.
>Feminists are increasingly pro-rape-of-men, pro-gender-apartheid, pro-violence-against-men; this is normalized.
>Marriage is a dead end for men; it should be abolished.
>Male death/disposability is recurring but caused by structural forces (primogeniture, conscription, colonialism), not "natural selection."
>"Natural selection" appeals are a bastardized Darwinism used to justify male genocide; the same logic is never applied to women.
>Humans ignore "nature" when convenient (wet nurses, IVF, epidurals); appeals to nature are feminist sophistry.
>Women were major investors/traders in colonialism (EIC, Siam, China) and drove luxury demand; they sent men to die for profit.
>Male disposability is global and structural (conscription, hazardous labor, criminal sentencing disparities).
>Non-Western countries are often more explicitly misandrist (e.g., Indonesia rape law, marital rape laws, alimony/child support enforcement).
>Reject "passport nostalgia" and xenophobia; foreign family law is not an easy fix.
>Don't denigrate foreign men or romanticize foreign women.
>UN imposes feminist legal norms globally (e.g., Japan/Toriko age-of-consent case).
>Sex work should be taxed at a much higher rate, funds dedicated to men.
>Male buyers are potentially vulnerable and should be protected, not criminalized.
>Female nature is "revolting" and hypergamy is a "plague," but focusing on it is strategically useless.
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No.13308
>>13303You're forgetting about women in general.
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No.13309
>>13299Masculinity isn't the problem.
Machismo is.
Machismo is the suicidal slave collar that demands boys to be daredevils, brawlers, and hairy behemoths.
Also, male beauty is pathologised by machismo and feminism as low T, misogynist, sociopathy, etc
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No.13311
>>13309Women don't want men who are effeminate. It's shitty, but, it's what it is. Society and men are controlled by our biological need for sex. Your average woman is turned off by men that display things like this. I am bi and I can't just openly be bisexual because most women give me gross looks. Not because I like to have sex with men as well as women, but, because it's seen as not masculine.
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No.13312
>>13308every woman is a feminist
>>13311>Women don't want menftfy
>>13310>It's also good for keeping your cultural identity purespooked
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No.13317
>>13312>Being spooked by spooksStirner is an interesting tip toe in the kiddie pool, but, cultural identity is something that exists and is generated through the evolutionary path of different civilizations; Greeks, Romans, Africans, Cambodians, Japanese, Americans, we all share common micro cultural and ethical ideals and traits that shape us sub-consciously . Stirner is cool for realizing that you have self power as an individual, but, in much the same way that the collective of the working class is made up of individuals as is the collective cultural zeitgeist. It is in your individual self interest to maintain your cultural identity. Not to the point of becoming ideological; allow it to evolve naturally, but, the inverse is also true. If you allow people to invade your country you will soon find yourself a stranger in your place of birth.
But that's cute, though.
Pre-programed npc responses are typical for society.
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No.13318
>>13317>cultural identity is something that existsSo does the weather. You don't worship it. You use it or ignore it.
>It's in your self-interest to maintain itThen
you maintain it. The moment you say "we must," you've traded your will for a that a corpse's. Your interest is yours to define, not inherited like a debt.
>Invaders will make you a strangerThe "stranger" is the one who thinks his identity is a deed to the dirt. You were born a stranger to every culture, including your own. You Own nothing, you lose nothing.
>NPC response<reciting lineage as destiny and script.You're the NPC. You trying respawn as your granddaddy.
Stop squatting in your own skull, boo.
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No.13319
>>13318>If you like or identify youtself with culture you are a part of you worship itHow much cuck porn do you have to masturbate to to reach this point of metropolitanism?
>Then you maintain it. The moment you say "we must," you've traded your will for a that a corpse's. Your interest is yours to define, not inherited likeYou are a fucking retard; No one said anything about your strawman. It's just self interest you retard.
>The "stranger" is the one who thinks his identity is a deed to the dirt. You were born a stranger to every culture, including your own. You Own nothing, you lose nothing.No you fucking retardmy identity is a long lineage of people who preceded me and whether you want to admit it you as well. But keep shoving immigrants into your society totally swearing that it totally works bro cause culture is a "spook" You are just an ideological retard and you can't even have an honest conversation that doesn't offend your liberal sensibilities, kek.
>You're the NPC. You trying respawn as your granddaddy.Go back to reddit you fucking uyghur, or, leftypol, whatever cess pool you came from. Your gay memes are a clear give away of where you are from.
There's nothing wrong with cont the legacy of traditions that you're family and people gave to you. You are just following the sheep who want to eradicate anything that is perceived as "white" really. You would never say this about Hispanic, or, uyghur culture.
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No.13321
>>13320>Le green textVery smart and wise.
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No.13325
>>13315Fair point. Women often like to accuse men of imprisoning them with "femininity" and even say "beauty is a spook" but then turn around and crucify men for not conforming to the pop-cultural impression of "masculinity"
They also like to pathologise men for their looks.
They say average look in g men are too dumb, ugly, mediocre
Or they say handsome men are shallow narcissistic divas with no nuance.
>>13311You're confusing femininity as being a mutual opposite/exclusive of machismo.
Non-macho doesn't mean automatically girly.
But you're right about women patronizing men whom don't conform to the aesthetics of machismo.
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No.13326
>>13324(You)
picrel>>13325I mean I get what you mean in that regard, but, your average void brained femoid cannot understand the difference, or, nuance in anyway for that matter.
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No.13328
>>13327>Everything is just meaningless and nothing has any attachment to anything. No one effects anything in anyway (unless of course it is ideologically pertinent to myself) I am perfectly encapsulated in my echo chamber of "totally not spooks"Of course don't mention to me at all that this logic perfectly follows the expansion and development of capitalism to turn everyone into self alienated islands of consumerism
>You're so spooked bro!You are a kike.
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No.13330
>>13326That's the fault of chivalry, not women. Although women do seem too dependent on chivalry for sense of purpose.
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No.13331
>>13329Except I never said anything like that. You just went there in your peabrained mind because you have a script your IDF masters tell you to follow and anyone that deviates from that script is subversive and has to be shut down with thought terminating cliches.
If you can support class movments based on self interest you can support other things also based on your own self interest including race and culture. This is the paradox of retarded stirner bros. They are spooked by their own ideology an don't understand why, or, how.
INB4: Some dumb ass one liner quip that has no actual, response to anything being said because he lacks the mental fortitude to actually generate novel ideals.
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No.13332
>>13330It's not just chivalry. It's a chicken or the egg. Ultimantly it's the "fault" of capitalism and the culture that capitalism creates. Back in the day we had aristocracy that was in control of merchants. Typically Jewish merchants. Even as early as 100 years ago WASP was the aristocracy of the united states. This ideological hegemonic enforcement system kept society as we know it intact. Now Jews art the aristocracy of the modern system. Capital moves the world to profit maximization while Jews set the cultural hegemony to subvert white institutions and flood out societies with browns.
So, all and all, it's both. The superstructure is effected by the base and so on and so forth. Jews and Capital have driven society to normalize white women (and all women) being complete whores.
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No.13333
>>13299Masculinity is a human trait of the male sex, just because capitalism commodities it, like it does everything else, doesn't mean it's not an innate thing that exists, you can't just abolish masculinity.
In fact you doing so sounds like you want to promote soyboy femboyism, and widen the divide between men and women.
Men and women need to support each other more than ever in the ongoing class war.
>PMCThat's already a term for "professional managerial class" is that a coincidence?
>MRAWtf is MRA you haven't defined this
>Women commit more violence than men.Hoooly shit fuck you, please kill yourself. There are only
CLASS ISSUES dipshitstein, stop posting idpol brained garbage. You know how much violence the fucking capitalist class commits?
All of these problems are literally rooted in capitalism, you should be promoting joining a revolutionary party not positioning yourself as opposed-to-feminism.
This is retarded and gay, you're gay OP.
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No.13335
>>13332Id never thought I'd see that day we have an alt righter on Leftychan unfiltered and unapologetic.
No, it's not the fault of "le Jews" nor brown people.
Need I remind you that a lot of the "degeneracy" you're whining about was promoted by the same WASPs you praise?
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No.13336
>>13333>In fact you doing so sounds like you want to promote soyboy femboyism, and widen the divide between men and women.You're making the mistake of assuming "femboyism" is antithetical to masculinity
>Men and women need to support each other more than ever in the ongoing class war. >>
No.13338
>>13333"Innate" ≠ unchangeable. Capitalism commodities everything because it's malleable. If masculinity were fixed biology, advertising couldn't sell it back to you. You're arguing it's both innate and fragile enough to need defending
>Soyboy femboyismyou're proving the PMC's point: masculinity enforced through disgust at deviation. Your collar is tight
Class war doesn't pause for gender war; PMC's framing is class analysis - male disposable labor (conscription, hazardous work, prison) is a class issue. Solidarity requires naming who benefits from men's deaths, not silencing it.
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No.13339
>>13335No one is praising anyone. You people cannot tell critique apart from analysis. It's just a simple fact of the matter; Anglo protestant Christians set cultural norms in society based on their own material and self interests. That has largely been replaced by Jewish aristocracy though out the world as capitalism has developed. Jews, while not the centrality of what is going on, have the most outsized amount of power with in the system of capitalism. Look at Israel, I mean, it's really quite obvious. Every year the united states spends trillions supporting the nation of Israel.
>Men and women need to support eachother.>>13336Feminism is liberal cancer that has largely been spread by Jews to destroy white people. Women are not like men and they are not equal to men. Women largely just follow whatever hegemony is in charge and go with that. The class dynamics, especially, those with in the realm of the working class are largely lead and organized by men. Any society, even a communist one, will largely need to rely on the nuclear family. Not this feminist myth of equality.
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No.13341
>>13340Post more political fetish pics
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No.13628
>>13301The entire 'pro-male collective' is a narcissist furry named Alex Brown and an old dude named Trevor Cormier.
Their activity is just their billion alt accounts socking all day.
It's like a Marxist-Leninist organization, even though they aren't Marxists, in that anyway who even wants to be a member just ends up listening and waiting to get approved by Alex or Trevor.
Nothing about their 'PMC' is particularly leftist, its more just anti-conservative, which is a nice break sometimes.
But Trevor and Alex are way too sketchy to make any headway for mens rights outside banning subreddits.
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No.13644
>>13629Nothing he wrote was argumentum ad hominem. Pointing out that the "collective" is just two grifters is indeed a valid criticism.
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No.13660
>>13644The main issue isn't that they're grifters, cuz they're not grifting anything,
the main issue is that it's just 2 sketchy guys who run their group so strict they don't actually want any members or supporters. why advertise it as a group when no one is allowed to have any opinion outside 30 niche things