/R9K/ - Robot - 9000

People should be allowed to self terminate with the help of a physician when they have no hope of improving through medical treatment or otherwise.

I agree, death should be honored and not feared, the vilification of death started when private owners and city dwellers became afraid of you dying and stop being their cuck. Before primitive accumulation and technology hunter-gatherers risked death constantly every day and it was just embraced as part of life and even cherished, in some societies that survived in the form of ritualistic sacrifices. Offing yourself is a valid way to go I even think funerals should be celebrated.

Like the zombies, their origin traces back to legends told by voodoo priests in Haiti telling the slaves that if they were to kill themselves, they would become a slave or "zombie" forever. They preferred to keep suffering alive thinking that there was some greater evil out there or reprisal

This already happens in my dystopian country. Then they started recommending death instead of medical treatment lol.

>>9039
People who really want to kill themselves no law is going to stop them anyways so the idea that people should only be allowed to kill the mselves if they are "Worthy" of it I mean, it's a bit ridiculous. It's like abortion, all you do by banning it is force people to do it in more barbaric ways.

for virtually everyone except the most extreme bedbound cases, hospitalized, or among super old folks, it's a non-issue.

Most everyone can just jump over 12 stories or so onto concrete and it's foolproof

>>9059
>Most everyone can just jump over 12 stories or so onto concrete and it's foolproof


In theory. Most likely it would end up in extreme pain and brain-death

>>9063

A 2002 study by Sasser et al. looked at fall injury mortality and found survival rates drop dramatically above 6 stories (~20 m). Mortality approaches 90–95% above this height.


Falls from 10 stories or more generally have near-100% fatality on hard surfaces, but exact numbers are difficult to pin down due to rarity of survival and reporting biases.

Your comment has no basis in fact, it would be an instant death, and foolproof. The people bumbling about pretending IV euthanasia is safe and painfree are cruel sadists at worst and totally ignorant at best.

7-10 stories averages about 95%, but as the fall height onto concrete increases, the mortality rate creeps closer and closer to 100%. By the time you get to 12 stories (about 40 meters), the survival rate is extremely low so close to 100% fatality that it might as well be.

>>9075
No, actually above 8 stories is 100% mortality in 287 jumpers studied

Lapostolle F, Gere C, Borron SW, Petrovic T, Dallemagne F, Beruben A, Lapandry C, Adnet F: Prognostic factors in victims of falls from height. Crit Care Med. 2005, 33 (6): 1239-1242. 10.1097/01.CCM.0000164564.11989.C3

It's literally the most successful and foolproof method, instant brain damage, but suicide fetishists dick all day about IV euthanasia and drugs and overdoses and all this painful, often cruel shit.

The euthanasia industrial complex doesn't want people to know about this simple fact: jumping onto concrete is foolproof above a certain height. See chart

>>9078
>>9076
>>9075

>Death by euthanasia is cruel
>Jumping off of roofs is honorable

You know that roofs and other high places are closed off for this reason?
Not only that, instant death isn't guaranteed. You most likely die slowly and painfully.
And you're forgetting about passerby or cars that you could accidentally land upon

I find it funny that people think euthanasia is eugenics yet they have no problem with wanting to sustain vegetables

>>9078
The same size in higher tiers is kinda small tbh.

>>9083
The US is littered with parking garages 14+ stories high with little to no barrier for jumping

If i were to do it, I'd just do it when there's no traffic to the place or, if I'm super concerned just wall off the area i'd land with some caution tape.

A 12 story fall would be hitting solid concrete at 60 miles per hour.

That death would be instantaneous with no suffering. The severe traumatic brain injury, particularly the diffuse axonal shearing and brainstem damage, would cause an immediate loss of consciousness at the moment of impact. Simultaneously, the aortic transection would lead to an immediate cessation of blood flow to the brain, ensuring an irreversible loss of brain function within moments. Forensic pathology classifies such events as 'immediate death.' There is no credible scientific evidence to suggest that consciousness or pain perception could be maintained in a fall of this magnitude onto solid concrete without obstacles.

The term "instantaneous" in the context of death must be defined with scientific precision. It does not refer to the cessation of all cellular metabolism, but to the immediate and irreversible termination of integrated organismal function.

The impact from a 45+ meter fall delivers over 35,000 Joules of kinetic energy, which, upon contact with a non-deformable surface, generates forces that cause simultaneous, catastrophic failure of the body's most critical systems. The key event is the complete destruction of the central nervous system, particularly the brainstem, which controls all vital functions. This injury, whether from direct impact, shear forces, or axial loading, results in immediate brain death. This is compounded by the simultaneous traumatic transection of the aorta, which causes an immediate cessation of cerebral perfusion. The convergence of these independent, unsurvivable injuries means that the moment of impact and the onset of medico-legal death are, for all practical and scientific purposes, the same. The classic trimodal distribution of trauma deaths, immediate, early, and late, is rendered moot; this event falls squarely and entirely within the "immediate" category, occurring within seconds of the traumatic event.

The question of suffering is answered by the same mechanism. Suffering requires consciousness, and consciousness requires a functioning brain. The distinction between nociception (the signal) and pain (the perception) is paramount. The pathological evidence shows that the very structures required to perceive pain: the thalamus, the cortex, the entire integrated network of the brain are obliterated by the impact forces on a timescale that is faster than the speed of neural transmission and processing. The brain is destroyed before it can register that the body has been injured.

While the fall itself from this height is a conscious event, the impact is not.