/b/ - Siberia

>>148243
Banning soyjaks was one of the few things they did right.

>better than .orgre
Is it tho?

>>148245
Yes

>>148237
eyty

>>148238
>The keyword here is "was".

Who fucking decided it wasn't? Seems like the change was just kind of made behind closed doors and then imposed on the people who were already there.

The restrictions imposed on it are actually stricter in ways than a lot of non-chan forums even have, now, and that decision was clearly made by a bunch of little despots. Yes, it was a stupid decision to take a board which was closer to old /b/ than current /b/ is, and start imposing a bunch of arbitrary rules on it, some of which they don't even bother to tell people about. That is incompetent management, the problems it creates were incredibly predictable, and I have never seen moderation on any site I've used degrade to that extent.

>Point of correction (not disagreeing with the idea) - The site admin doesn't do shit, intentionally, since 2021. The mods get together and decide.

True! It's a problem!

>wut. no.
>Most people aren't autistic enough to leave a site because they aren't allowed to post pepes and wojaks.

Yeah, but they get banned for it, so it doesn't matter if they're "autistic enough" to leave. Also, it's an offshoot of an 8ch board, so frankly I think you're still underestimating the autism level - that's something which comes with the territory, and if you're that hostile towards it, then you're going to antagonize a lot of harmless regulars. In fact, people who don't post those also get banned for so many bizarre, often unknown reasons that the question of whether or not this was a reasonable decision is almost a moot point. But for the record, it wasn't a reasonable decision, and the moderation have proven that they are not reasonable.

>That said, I still believe there should be intentional efforts to promote original memes developing.

This is a dumb ass /pol/-era idea of what memes are. If you really want stuff to catch on methodically, just populate the site with boomers, and have them spam everywhere with the most bland shit imaginable until people think it's popular. Memes used to be fun, it was a dumb hobby, it was reaction images, now ya'll think it's a project and that's kind of sad.

>Even a slow original IB is better than a fast 4chan clone.

I mean, at peak 7chan had loads of crossover. I remember it was like… 2010 or 2011, and there were dudes there who were just wild about trollface still. It's not like it was the anti-4chan.

>Nah, tell American immigrants that McDonalds and Coca-Cola is boring, mass-produced and everywhere. Go to nearly every country in the world and it's there.

If /leftypol/ers owned McDonald's and Coca-Cola, we'd be extremely powerful. If we had the capacity to open bottling plants and storefronts anywhere we wanted, using as much of those recipes as we wanted, running them however we wanted, and no one would stop us or charge us for the rights, that would be an asset to us as a group. I'm not a fan of Pepe or Wojak, but that shit didn't belong to anybody else. They were part of /leftypol/'s inherited culture, the users had as much right and ownership of those memes as anyone else who used them did. There's not some outside force which owns them, it's not a megacorporation, it was something which was our common right.

>You can't just blame it all on their self-destructive moderation, because if that were the case than leftychan would have started to take its place, instead of being as dead as 7chan.

If America's healthcare system is still so bad, why hasn't everybody moved to Canada? Like, that's a much more pressing issue, isn't it? Why hasn't everyone reacted accordingly?

Look, I almost didn't even come over here. .org literally had to become unusable (posts randomly disappearing, weird out-of-nowhere range bans which mods would give bizarre non-explanations for, etc.) before I'd even consider its (former) competitor. The schism which this site lost was years ago, and even after .org came out on top, they continued to accuse this site of being too reactionary, too sketchy, etc. I almost didn't even give this one another chance, myself, I guarantee you that a lot of people will get put off of .org and then not even think to come here. A lot of people didn't even migrate from /leftypol/ to bunkerchan, and a lot of people didn't migrate from bunkerchan to either of these. Every time this happens, it loses users.

>That's why /leftypol/s should continue developing culture and extending that which we've created instead of just saying 'god i miss 2020', throwing charcoal into our engine.

A lot of mainstream memes which still go around are older than the oldest /leftypol/ memes. At best, your sentiment here is neurotic.

>While we produce no value, expect withering and death.

Memes have no value. They're fucking memes. The only problem with the memes other people like is that you don't like them, and that doesn't matter, right? Right??

>>148227
i actually don't even care that it was invented by an inner circle or whatever. there was nothing else being done beforehand. well, almost nothing. i remember there being one thread beforehand about people making a siberia mascot, and not with a poll or anything. and there were a few drawings and ideas, but then that thread died because there simply wasn't enough creative people that were active there.

>>148245
It's kinda cozier tbqpfhwy

Most sane ogre mod

>>148268
This is aimed at me. Believe me, it's only the tip of the iceberg.

>>148268

I, uh… what's this about?

>>148270
A single .org mod thinks someone from this site regularly spams CP on .org. There is no existing evidence to prove this fact, and none of the other .org mods have ever acknowledged or took action against this individual. It's most likely just an excuse for this mod to ban anons who question their overzealous moderating methods, including rangebanning a large chunk of North America only recently, causing the other mods to stage an intervention on them.

As for the actual source of the CP spam, it is unknown. All imaegboards get the same automated posts coming from some kind of botnet.

Basically, this is what happens when you can't rid of bad mods who go rogue.

>>148270
I don't know, it's just someone's ban I saved months ago because of how hysterical it was.
>>148271
Interesting.

>>148271

Wait, so that ban is ostensibly over the same kind of roboposts that hit here, 7chan, 4chan, etc., but in this case they're just accusing a random user of being behind it?

That actually kind of is bizarre. You'd think someone familiar enough with imageboards to be a mod would be aware of this particular nuisance, and not be so confused about it.

Are we allowed to post snuff films here?

>>148275
>Wait, so that ban is ostensibly over the same kind of roboposts that hit here, 7chan, 4chan, etc., but in this case they're just accusing a random user of being behind it?
I've seen the same kind of bot spam on wizchan, it's a common problem on almost every imageboard, especially small ones with no captcha. But it seems the ogre mods have conjured up an idea that it's a leftychan conspiracy.
>You'd think someone familiar enough with imageboards to be a mod would be aware of this particular nuisance, and not be so confused about it.
Not to the labor on about this, but again, more ammo for my theory that they know nothing about imageboards can came from twitter or somewhere else

>>148277
Probably not unless it's related like war footage or news and spoilered, someone posted a murder-suicide clip on the /r9k/ incel news thread without repercussion today.
I'm going to digress, but what made me embarrassed about .org enough to come here was getting a warning for posting a war painting. You know, the origin of the Liberators meme, of some stereotypical Slavic depiction of Soviets raping some pure Aryan fraulein in WWII made by some former Nazi member in the 50's. I made some meandering post about how the artist seems to like painting German women getting fucked by non Germans despite being a Nazi, and this is a common theme among racists.
Anyways I got a short warning and some mod literally responded with "yikes!", called it drawn CP rape snuff. It's a painting. One that everyone aware of Soviets online knows, everyone from leftists to general Russians made fun of, it's a meme. Bloody, ugly, propaganda, but a well worn meme at this point. I just don't like a mod talking that fucking faggy, and like he's never seen it before.

>>148279
No, I don't intend to post anything political. These are just videos of women committing suicide.>>148279

>>148282
Well there's only one way to find out

>>148285
Fug, and I thought this site was better than .ogre

>>148268
imagine writing you gay tldr fantasies as a ban reason lol

Who's the best mod? Who's the 2nd worst mod? We all know em-tse-tse is the worst.

>>148275
>You'd think someone familiar enough with imageboards to be a mod would be aware of this particular nuisance, and not be so confused about it.
This is the same person who accidentally rangebanned half of America because they didn't realise the first part of an IP address isn't unique. Imo for mods to have the power to rangeban and do shit with IPs they should have to be an IT nerd, otherwise IP addresses need to be hashed.

>>148278
>Not to the labor on about this, but again, more ammo for my theory that they know nothing about imageboards can came from twitter or somewhere else
leftypol.org is only an imageboad on the surface, their rules and moderation policies are lifted straight from reddit and the likes of that chapo spin-off forum. The mods are constantly adding 'joke' reddit-humour mod notices on random posts and posting under their LOOK AT ME mod tags. Clearly nobody on that mod team has any prior experience with imageboards. All the old guard have left and been replaced with zoomers.

>>148292

I think just describing them as zoomers is really, really generous. There are zoomers who know how IPs work.

>>148277
>>148286
Both are fine as long as it's not excessive or exceptionally degenerate, and gore should always be spoilered preferably.

That rule is a relic of .org and hasn't been updated since the split. Just use common sense when posting, and equally don't be a moralfag if you see something which you don't like.

>>148294

Idk, like gore is one thing, but "snuff films" might not be a flat "yes" in all cases, right? Seems like one of those areas where it can cut it kinda close.

>>148291
imagine knowing who all those fags are

fucking redditoids

>>148295
It just really depends on the individual case. As long as it's spoilered, stuff like cop bodycam footage, ukraine footage, cctv robbery videos, industrial accidents etc. are fine if relevant to the thread they're posted in. It's not like we have to worry about advertisers, and the site is 18+ after all.

However extreme shit like monkey torture porn, rape videos and plain execution footage are just psycho and will probably end up getting the site taken down or at least blocked in certain countries. So that will get removed.

>>148291
I don't know most of the jannies, but wvobbly is one of the reasons i quit ogre.

>>148291
>>148303
I don't know any of these names or their individual reputations, other than discomrade due to him publicly quitting in protest and wvobbly who's supposedly the worst and most visible mod

>>148299
>>148295
Both of these posts read like pearl-clutching apologia for censorship. Man up pussies, don't click it if you don't like it.

>>148299
>>148295
selfcensoring is contrarevolutionary

>>148279
>I made some meandering post about how the artist seems to like painting German women getting fucked by non Germans despite being a Nazi, and this is a common theme among racists.
>despite
Not despite, but because all reactionaries are in love with such shit. Psychomarxists called this phenomenon "social necrophilia" when describing authpersons' infatuation with death, rotting, dirt, destruction, disintegrating in general & ideal clean mechanisms @ the same time. Fromm even dug out some record from the last days of European front by a German Joe who have seen Hitler outside his bunker, staring maniacally @ a rotting corpse of a dead soldier's body which was swarming with larvae. This man was seeing the destruction of Germany, & he was cooming. Talk about the us soviet troops raping every grandpa in their vicinity after that.
So actually it would be very strange if a nazoid wouldn't coom at the thoughts of the most horrific shit happening to his "fellow" germans. Absolutely sick fucks. Imagine what would happen of they would ever get to power. Oh right…

>>148247
>Yeah, but they get banned for it, so it doesn't matter if they're "autistic enough" to leave.
I literally forgot some people don't just ban evade. I Torpost as a security habit so bans just kind of don't apply.

>>148247
>Memes have no value. They're fucking memes.
They can value to a community, or at least are an important part of the process. Consider something like the /pol/jak. We didn't invent the basis and the forerunners, le pol face already existed on… I want to say krautchan or kohlchan.
Then it comes over to bunkerchan and gets associated with us, we make memes and variants of it, and soon it gets used in raids on /pol/, with other 4chan boards soon joining in and /leftypol/ further ingrained in the minds of poltroons.
Stuff like that helps a community grow, with free publicity from people who found the meme fun and discovered that a leftypol existed because of it.
And look, I understand this may sound like THE MEMES ARE SRSBSNS or some shit, honestly it isn't. It's that a site needs to be worth coming to if it expects people to discover it or use it. Either that, or all the other ones need to be so repulsive like .org that it pushes people away to look for an alternative.
And that worth can be anything. Threads useful enough that people share them, funny posts and memes, whatever. I'm not saying memes should be a project the way .org tried, artificially manufactured or industrialized. Fuck that, no. But when no-one is making anything that can't already be found on a more popular site, all you get are the crumbs that fall from .org mods banning too many users. Growth isn't a goal or aim, but it's necessary if you don't want 20 users to become 19, 18, 17….

>>148249
>because there simply wasn't enough creative people that were active there
One thing that astounded me was seeing a shortlived thread showing that many of these people could draw well. There's just no inspiration or passion.

>>148271
>>148272
>As for the actual source of the CP spam, it is unknown. All imaegboards get the same automated posts coming from some kind of botnet.
*cracks knuckles*
0) CP advertising spam on forums has been going on for at least a decade, probably at least two or three. It is not one person or even one group. It's different groups advertising their own sites, and they don't just target imageboards. One of the current active groups makes the identical posts on imageboards and Japanese open forums, for example. The typical MO is to post a CP image, stills from a video or some other indicator (e.g. last year was an image of pedobear with a link), and a shortened URL link to their site. Sites tend to get hit by these ones every few days. Again, this is advertising, they do this to get visitors to their websites. Judging by posting styles, it's believed that some sites have multiple distinct people spamming for them.
1) You're correct, this affects most imageboards. It's not targeted. Most imageboards don't have the expertise to block them (it's not easy, especially using naive strategies or conventional imageboard features), and many more don't have the staff to quickly respond. So they're a real problem, and there's evidence they still post to leftypol.org regularly.
HOWEVER
2) /leftypol/ has also had non-advertising CP posts, as malicious posts.
I remember one of the devs posting that around 2020 and 2021, there was a user that arrived whenever there were /pol/ raids (therefore believed to be a /pol/ pedo) who would purchase DigitalOcean servers to post CP to /leftypol/, buying new ones in different regions to ban evade, who was eventually banned systematically.
3) There was also a user around 2021 just after the split who would repeatedly spam CP to /siberia/ with filenames such as "12 years old.jpg" and IIRC occasionally write messages with them. I haven't seen CP on /leftypol/ since then so I don't know if this poster is still active, but it's likely that these posts are why m00dy alleges the link between one of the users here and the CP spam: a foreign malicious user would have just hit /leftypol/ instead and it clearly wasn't an advertiser posting those.

There have been anon posts on /siberia/ as recent as two weeks ago complaining about "the CP guy" but there's no way to know if it's just talking about the generic ad spammers or not without seeing the posts they're talking about, or finding someone who has.

>>148306
how are you supposed to not click that if it's either already in the thumbnail or you don't know what it will be?
just post it on a site that thats made for niche psycho junk. win win.

>>148268
>>148271
Upon some memories being conjured up, I have to be a bit more generous to the mods. It's not JUST spambots, I think there was actually someone manually posting cp in random threads to shit them up. So it isn't just the usual bots that attack almost every small imageboard.
But that said, there's no reason to think it's form here. There are plenty of people that want to attack any left leaning site.

>>148314
> didn't invent the basis and the forerunners, le pol face already existed on… I want to say krautchan or kohlchan.
I still refuse to believe this. I'm not even sure kohlchan was a thing yet when that meme came about. Even so, it says enough that the meme became associated with here. Most bernds would be a prime target for the meme in the first place

>>148310
>Pic
I remember that on one of the /leftypol/s
>Psychomarxists called this phenomenon "social necrophilia" when describing authpersons' infatuation with death, rotting, dirt, destruction, disintegrating in general & ideal clean mechanisms @ the same time.
Fascinating, so I'm not the only one who noticed this.
I mainly started thinking about it whenever I saw old propaganda depicting the in-group as young women/girls about to be violated by the ugly animalistic Other. Like even this fucking picture, drawn by a Japanese ultra-nationalist with a fucking hatred even for Korean children, drawing Japan as a little girl being upskirted by Koreans. Someone on ogre brought up some Freudian psychologist who suggested the swastika was supposed to be parents mating, but I think that went a bit too far.
>infatuation with death, rotting, dirt, destruction, disintegrating in general
I remember seeing that conservatives on average get easily queasy and are more afraid of dirt or shit. Would fit with the meme of a neatfreak who is into weird shit.

>>148316
>2) /leftypol/ has also had non-advertising CP posts, as malicious posts.
Ah someone said it before me
>I remember one of the devs posting that around 2020 and 2021, there was a user that arrived whenever there were /pol/ raids (therefore believed to be a /pol/ pedo) who would purchase DigitalOcean servers to post CP to /leftypol/, buying new ones in different regions to ban evade, who was eventually banned systematically.
And that it's some falseflag and intentional attack against the site from some rightoid, not from here. Ogre mods are just using leftychan as a scapegoat
>I haven't seen CP on /leftypol/ since then
>2021
I saw it last year around the fourth of July shooting, I think in the USA thread on /leftypol/. So they're probably still out there.

>>148313
The tor node was the Achilles' heel for the jannies, really. Very lucky it got through.

>>148317
Any good image boards for extremely disturbing (but not illegal) content?

>>148320
Now that I look into it, it's interesting.
I can't find any evidence that it was invented on kohlchan, but it was certainly a meme there prior to the poljak version being popularized on /leftypol/ in August 2020 [1], because "le kohl face" was already being posted on 4chan in May 2020.[2]
However, both picrels are from early August 2019 (/int/ and /biz/), the first being the day after the shooting, and a likely inspiration for the second. Whether "le pol face" was drawn off-site or by a 4chan anon, I have no idea. Odds are that some kohl user later adapted le pol face into le kohl face, and it became a meme there, then whiny kohlbabies on pol assumed kohl made it.

Funnily enough, ">le /pol/ face" (text) goes back at least to 2012.

[1] OC Thread 5.0 https://archive.li/o4roT#q821232
[2] https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/257374902/#257406601

>>148313

Why would anyone who wasn't already doing that want to load up TOR just to be able to use the site when they never had to on any previous incarnation? There are sites where you don't have to ban evade just to post.

>>148328
My suspicion is that the claims that it's berndface or kohlface I think are just attempts to appropriate the meme for themselves, because again there is a hatred for leftypol and its offshoots, even if it didn't come here first. I wouldn't be surprised if the pedo spammer on .org is from KC.
Looking through my folder, first two pics (September 2019) and third(April 2020), are my oldest related to this
>Funnily enough, ">le /pol/ face" (text) goes back at least to 2012.
It may be a 'jak, which have always been a thing but much more the craze in the last few years, but the ">le [x]face" meme format was much more during 2012. The original creator probably edited a way older meme he had.
Also I appreciate the Wikipedia/KYM format of your post

>>148338
>prone to being angry and volatile during discussion
its over bros…

t. le ftypol face

>>148293
No matter where on the net, you Millennials cannot stop blaming zoomers or comparing them to negative standards.

Your generation is not special.
Youre not the first Internet generation with the hardware/software know how.


All of the OG culture you millennials brag about having was given to you by Gen X.

>>150679
Zoomer faggotry is somewhat self aware. Millennials are faggy and oblivious to it

>>150680
everything millennials whine about is the same shit they do.

they whine about boomers being grumpy old men ruining kids fun.

And they turn around and accuse zoomers or Gen alpha of ruining pop culture.

Like what intrinsic diffference is there between 2007-2013 and post-2016?

Pop culture has remained similar since the mid-late 1980s.

Yet millennials will swear up and down the aisle that individual year numbers have unique flavors.

>>147908
Cishet men are the biggest clientele of any alternate gender/sexuality.

All trans and gays seek the validity of cishet men in one form or another.