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 No.158270

Go ahead and complain about the state of society past the 2000s and reminisce about your youth.

Member VHS tapes? Member CDs? Member Windows XP? Member Winamp? Member early Nickelodeon? Member Sonic X? Member PS2? Member Nokia bricks? MEMBER?

I member… 😢
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Youtube Poops/remixes were awesome and I will never forgive Youtube for burning the library of Alexandria with their inane copyright strikes nobody asked for and the Google buyout and modern content creators that chase algorithms and do things like talk about Chris Chan when the scandal got out even though they never talked a day in their life about Chris Chan.
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 No.158273

>>158272
inane copyright strikes and arbitrary rule violations*
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 No.158274

I would still buy CDs if I had any money.
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 No.158275

>>158272
>I will never forgive Youtube for burning the library of Alexandria with their inane copyright strikes nobody asked for
So that's why some poops are reuploads.

How many AMVs were killed off?
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 No.158276

>>158272
The golden age of YouTube Poops was 2009 thru 2015

Thomas The Tank Engine and SpongeBob, Nintendo, SEGA etc were popular subjects for splicing
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 No.158287>>158288>>158294

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You can demarcate this as the real beginning of the decline of Hollywood movies, cable/streaming, the Internet and AAA gaming and the start of that culture war bullshit, it only went downhill from here. It's like our entire society has decided to commit suicide in that specific decade. Maybe all this anti-woke leftist content I watch and this very imageboard are just my way of coping with the fact that the entire world is fucking collapsing and that there is no turning back…
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 No.158288

>>158287 (me)
Ah, I forgot to mention new wars and a thread of a nuclear apocalypse.

This is fine… 😬
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>>158287
People said the 2000s were the beginning of the end.

Also. The culture war bullshit started as early as the 1980s/90s.
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>>158294
>Also. The culture war bullshit started as early as the 1980s/90s.
Nah. The ideological inspirations for the culture war? Yes. But not the culture war itself. But then again, conservatards and reactionaries have always existed.
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>>158295
I like it when people downplay the sins of the past


We had a culture war in the 1980s/90s. Hell, culture war has always existed.
But it probably wasn't the exact same kind as we had today.

Back in the 1960s thru 90s, conservatives wanted to ban rap and rock.
We had people mass burning disco records in the late 1970s because they thought it was too "faggy".

In 1966 when John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus, American adults went apeshit and burned Beatles records.

When rap music became gangster, groups like NWA had a cease and desist letter from the FBI because their hit song Fuck Tha Police.

Or let's go back to the seventeenth/eighteenth century when novels were gaining popularity with the plebians.

The village elders thought secular original stories were corrupting the youth and would burn them.
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 No.158298>>158303

Nostalgia is the spark of reactionaryism. In fact I could say that nostalgia indirectly is responsible for the obnoxious culture war of this century.

We already had to put up with he boomers with their cultural chauvinism. Don't become like them.
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>>158297
I mean, these weren't culture wars because they were rather one-sided. And now we have TWO sides who are equally obnoxious, people even fear of a new civil war. That's how it used to be: do a little civil war and it's over. Now all the battles are done online instead of shooting each other in the face with a rifle.
>>158298
>Nostalgia is the spark of reactionaryism.
Nostalgia is more complex than that. I think nostalgia is a cry for help from people who are confused by the material causes of the cultural decay. The cultural decay not in a sense that "RAHHHH, GAY PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS NOW!!!!!" but rather in a sense that the constant expansion of capital ruins creativity and leads to rushed products manufactured specifically to make the biggest amount of money from the largest amount of people. It's close to Cory Doctorow's concept of chokepoint capitalism but some may view it as the late-stage capitalism's corruption of the entertainment industry. Regardless of what you call it, this phenomena is very much real but people refer to it as "nostalgia" because they're confused by the material reality they find themselves in and falsely assume that their childhood is somehow a special one-of-a-kind period instead of being an early stage of commercialization of entertainment where the entertainment businesses haven't yet become too big to fail. As I've already mentioned in my Western pop culture thread ( >>>/ent/9259 ) mainstream music got fucked the earliest, with other industries meeting their downfall later either because they were too young or too expensive. You can pop out hundreds of boy bands without much effort but blockbuster movies used to be a fucking event… before Disney and WB decided to pump out dozens of MCU and DCU movies and streaming shows every year.
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>>158303
>dozens of (…) DCU movies
Nyah, actually, the previous interconnected universe was named DCEU (DC Extended Universe AKA Snyderverse) and the new universe is the one named DCU which will officially start with Gunn's Superman, which hasn't come out yet, so that's technically wrong, nyah.
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>>158303
Perhaps. But also, I think the masses incentive the corporate overlords.

Anytime when anything completely new comes out, the masses shut it down as newfangled non sense

People would rather rely on stuff that has been a staple of their childhood, even if it means being rehashed.

Also, people are just addicted to indignation.

Cultural decay is relative and cyclical..

Again, you say the 2000s was the golden age?
I remember growing up in the 2000s. Adults said things were better before 1996.

In the 1990s, adults said things were better in the 1970s and early 80s.

Cultural decay is motivated mainly by the solipsism of aging.

There's more to life than top quality pop culture products.

There's so much opportunity for growth and what not.
But nope

People would rather obsess over why fictional characters don't appeal to their tastes.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
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>>158303
>You can pop out hundreds of boy bands without much effort

I like how people complain about boy bands but they're ok with "indie" music (which is recycled punk/hip-hop).

Also, boy bands aren't really that easy to make. Choreography, vocal training, dress style. Etc.

You may as well dismiss Motown as some boy/girl band crap factory.

There are more indie groups making crap music nowadays than boy bands making crap music.
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 No.158309

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>>158304
>the previous interconnected universe was named DCEU
Dunning-Krueger ig.
>>158305
>But also, I think the masses incentive the corporate overlords.
Yes and no. Consoomers certainly bear part of the blame for the current state of the mainstream pop culture but they are influenced by the bourgeoisie as much as they influence them. It's dialectical. So it's more of a systemic issue caused by capitalism rather than something that's entirely the fault of individual proles. I'm an individualist but I recognize that our understanding of the world is clouded by spooks which allow us to act like one unit to begin with, it's a kind of brain programming where you're wired to do certain things because you are convinced that it's a desirable behavior, the people are just very confused and misled.
>People would rather rely on stuff that has been a staple of their childhood, even if it means being rehashed.
That's why I'm saying that nostalgia is just confusion. Things from one's childhood are not good because of their ingredients but because they were made in a time when the industry was small and young enough to prioritize quality and allow more creative freedom. Just mimicking ingredients won't recreate the passion people had behind your beloved franchises but people want to believe otherwise because they're desperate. It's kinda like that King Neptune vs SpongeBob meme.
>>158306
>I like how people complain about boy bands but they're ok with "indie" music (which is recycled punk/hip-hop).
Nah, hipsters are just normies who think they're special.
>Also, boy bands aren't really that easy to make. Choreography, vocal training, dress style. Etc.
You're confusing the difficulty of execution with the difficulty of conceptualization. Even the workers in AAA gamedev and TV cartoons work hard. But the creators of Clair Obscur are ex-Ubisoft employees and many artists who went on to create well-recieved cartoons started from something like the Powerpuff Girls 2016 reboot so the employees themselves can be very, very talented. Too bad that in big corpos they have NO CREATIVE CONTROL.
>There are more indie groups making crap music nowadays than boy bands making crap music.
Well, there's way more music nowadays to begin with with the rise of platforms like SoundCloud, Bandcamp and Spotify so it's not a fair comparasent. Just as there are more bad indie bands there are also good indie bands while mainstream music is in a consistant decline, rare gems like Kendrick Lamar notwithstanding. I wouldn't say mainstream music is terrible either. Most of the time it's just kinda… meh. It's inoffensive and rather boring. But I like some K-pop artists like NewJeans, tho the K-pop industry is still an abomination for the sole fact of how fucked up their worker treatment is, this would give people working for Amnesty International a heart attack.

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