why do leftists generally dislike Althusser?

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:43 No.2194

IDK if they dislike him. He's a negative point of reference for a lot of left theorists because of the level of impact his ideas had.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:44 No.2199

>>2192 (OP)
The only Althusserian I know was an adjunct studio art professor who tried getting me to analyze art through esoteric means. I hated him.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:44 No.2203

Because someone tried to pull that lame-ass kafkatrap joke of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" on him. His answer was just a chad NO.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:44 No.2205

>>2192 (OP)
Because he ignores the human subject and actor in favour of History with a capital H as the only conscious actor. Reification of History is silly and so is the subsequent anti-humanist Marxist movement.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:47 No.2241>>2242

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>>2192 (OP)
because he was right

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:47 No.2242>>2246

>>2241
On the contrary, it turns out he was practically universally wrong.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:48 No.2246>>2248 >>2249

>>2242
how

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:48 No.2248

>>2246
>>>/leftypol/714196

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:48 No.2249>>2327

>>2246
Also, this:
>Althusser and Ideology [by Cockshott]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Mbjv7q9F8

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:54 No.2327>>2328 >>2329 >>2330 >>2341 >>2345

>>2249
>using C*ckshott to form your opinions on philosophy
Oh nonono
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/04/28/please-waste-no-time-on-hegel/

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2328>>2355

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>>2327
wtf

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2329>>2331 >>2332

>>2327
He's right

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2330>>2332 >>2336

>>2327
>Not refuting any of the points raised against Althusser
>"Here's a supposedly damning[?] article!

He's right, you know.
[b]Fuck "Hegelian[/b] more like [b]idealist[/b] [b]Marxism".[/b]

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2331

>>2329
Yes but he's only allowed to say that because he's one of the elite few who has actually read Hegel

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2332>>2333

>>2329
>>2330
you mean his point that capitalism doesn’t rely on ideology? that’s retarded. if the proles tomorrow we’re 100% unanimous in trying to stop communism there would be nothing stopping them. alternatively if none of them ever concerned themselves with class consciousness the idea of communism would never have existed in the first place. Cockshott’s positivist thinking is w*sternoid analytical retardation that treats people like Kantian robots. the absolute state of /edu/

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2333

>>2332
*trying to stop capitalism

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2334>>2335

the fact that this bird relies on a computer scientist to understand continental philosophy is pathetic.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2335

>>2334
Read Hegel

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2336>>2337

>>2330
you couldn't define hegelianism or idealism if your life depended on it faggot, lenin was right (as always)

>it is impossible completely to understand Marx's Capital, and especially its first chapter, without having thoroughly studied and understood the whole of Hegel's Logic

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2337

>>2336
Maybe Lenin forgot to read the afterword to the second German edition where Marx admits that the first Chapter was written in a Hegelian style as a joke?

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2338

This thread is just going in circles.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2341>>2343 >>2354

>>2327
Lol wow. Why anyone would give this guy the time of day on theory after getting filtered so hard I don't know.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2343>>2350 >>2351

>>2341
The fuck are you even saying

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:55 No.2345

>>2327
Academic Marxism B T F O

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:56 No.2350

>>2343
Reaction to Cockshot. He's doomed himself to mostly bourgeois epistemology and pretends he's still reading hard hitting stuff and trying to get at the "pure Marx." He struggled with Hegel at 18 and said that was enough. Plus he has this weird scientism. None of what he said was enough to ignore Hegel and push aside all those that have tried to expand on Hegel and Marx.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:56 No.2351>>2358

>>2343
Plus Zizek said Hegel was a better materialist than Marx. There's a lot Cockshot misses in his half-arsed reading of Hegel.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:56 No.2354

>>2341
he's unironically a great mathematician and programmer. I just find it annoying when people shill him on anything philosophy related.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:56 No.2355

>>2328

Can a mod or someone reach out to him and have him do an AMA here on a pinned thread? That would be cool

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:56 No.2358>>2365

>>2351
Zizek is a fucking joke and the fact that you cite him favorably in a thread like this speaks volumes.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:57 No.2365>>2366

>>2358
Oh really? Compared to a non-theorist blogger? Zizek has serious work other than cultural takes.

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▶Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:57 No.2366

>>2365
You're a silly person and I'm ending this here.

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