No.13537
Maybe we don't have enough power to have a great influence over politics but we have the power to have a great influence over people if we mobilize and take action by creating a new subculture to atract people's interest and take them out from that ignorance that leaves our enemies and traitors to win, a subculture with good aesthetic and it's own type of mentality will work the best to have a great change into society or just make things more fun a plan for this is SovCore.
>What is SovCore?
SovCore is a Soviet nostalgic subgenre of punk which incorporates several during or post Warsaw Pact aesthetics into one mixed with some alternative ones, it is a way to revolt against this Capitalist system and also promote a strong patriotic sentient.
>Mentality of a SovCorist
Basic Soviet mentality like Brotherhood/Sisterhood like minded, promotes gun, fitness or car cultures, helpful to community, feminist, aggressive, fanatical patriotic, AntiGlobalist, AntiFascist, AntiCapitalist, Antinationalist, racial separatist, continental unionism ex Asian Union, equalitarian, opposed to Capitalist rooten fruits such as sexual revolution stuff or mainstream pop culture
>Style
Basic alternative fashion combined with East European aesthetics such as military surplus or thug styles, the goal is your style to give an East bloc vibe, piercings are welcome in a small number and tattoos the best are the minimalist ones or based of Soviet prison tattoos ones
>Music
WitchHouse, Harbass, Post Punk, New/Dark wave, Chanson, Alternative rap the goal is to sound as gloomy, angry or Sovietic as possible
pic related a potential example for a SovCore style for women and excuse мой anglish
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No.13541
>>13537Sounds interesting what existing subcultures could we promote this to
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No.13543
>racial separatist
For what?
>fanatical patriotic
>Antinationalist
A bit close to the sun m8. Low key spooked.
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No.13545
>>13537>SovCoreis this some joke with the russian word "совок"?
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No.13546
Nobody cares about "soviet aesthetics". All it will do is make most people roll their eyes and dismiss your group/movement as out of touch.
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No.13547
>>13543By racial separatism I mean that idea everyone has to live and work only for his lands of origins not somewhere else for others and why?Maybe because it's just another way of exploitation used by Capitalists from which your working skills are used for others and not for your lands which will make them to stagnate if not just fall plus a multiethnic society is part of Globalism and there are high risks of indtabilities because of our history.
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No.13548
>>13544oops forgot about this one
>>13545no i wasn't thinking of it lol
>>13546who knows maybe they will find it better than the crap is promoted, maybe they will love the idea after, that idea here in Russia for example would work perfectly especially that our youth is attracted to that idea and history of USSR and alternative subcultures, we had something similar called Lyubera but once the Westernization started it just changed and splitted in more
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No.13550
>>13546Maybe for boomers it does but I think the IRA and Mao are memed a lot nowadays.
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No.13551
>>13537while I do like this, alot actually, this does feed into the left's doomerism and nostalgia. There isn't enough attention to the hope of communism, largely the left exists only as an opposition. The caps say this we say that. None the less this sounds based as fuck and it would be dope to see it actually take off
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No.13553
>>13537BASED AS FUCK
Socialism+Trap will be the defining subculture though IMHO
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No.13554
>>13553Trap as in the music
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No.13555
>>13553lmao there is an good example of that FEARSTbea†s - Xorow
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No.13556
>>13552but zizek… everything is ideology
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No.13559
>>13552Isn't Zizek himself an idealist?
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No.13560
>>13559I don't see how somebody familiar with what idealism means could say that. Zizek is a Marxist and is thus a materialist, apart from having explicitly said that he is a materialist during talks.
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No.13561
there is an audience for something like this. doomer types have a fetish for bleak soviet esque/eastern european stuff. theres this band molchat doma thats big online who plays with this aesthetic
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No.13563
>>13537Stay the fuck away from Eastern Europe, you filthy fucking westerner.
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No.13564
>>13537Idk about the racial sepratism bit there bud.
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No.13565
>>13563I'm easterner you дебил
>>13564what's wrong with it after all?
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No.13566
This thread just proves teenagers are a blight on this board, and on the internet.
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No.13567
>>13562Chester Perry goggle parka damn expensive but in Russia there are some big lucks to find them very cheap because of them being stolen or just because it's a decent quality copy, since a time it's full of them on the streets of Russia and Stone Island
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No.13568
>>13565Don't fucking touch me. You reek of westernization.
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No.13569
>>13568Better they play around w/ SovCore than end up a liberal dermocrat
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No.13570
>>13568Nah, my grandpa is full time commie and hates most of the Western things especially their liberals he would've beat the shit out of me till coma and I'd be everywhere on the news if i reeked of westernization
>>13569exactly
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No.13571
kys comrade
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No.13572
>>13537This is a good idea but you don't understand Soviet culture enough to be blueprinting this.
The idea of meshing "gloomy, angry" emotions with Soviet culture is stupid, Soviet culture was extremely optimistic from beginning to end. Your propositions ring anti-Soviet as much as anti-capitalist.
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No.13575
>>13561>theres this band molchat doma thats big online who plays with this aestheticEmerging Europe described their lyrics as "not explicitly anti-Soviet" but also "[painting] a bleak picture of life under communism as well as contemporary life in Belarus, a country still trying to break free of the shackles of its communist past"
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No.13576
>creating a culture
Pure idealist autism.
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No.13579
this is the stupidest shit
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No.13580
>>13579Yes, the guy who made this should get off his ass and maybe talk to people. Literally most people under 45 can be convinced of socialism as long as you aren't a dumbass in your arguements.
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No.13584
>>13565>what's wrong with it after all?Seems at odds with Class Struggle, but I get it my Parents are Eastern Euro as well and the Left in the East just works different. And I'm not saying they are worse than the Western Left, when in Fact they have a better Understanding of Marxism than most westerners. From my experience the Anti-Idpol Sentiment sometimes results in a bit of Racism from some Communists
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No.13594
>>13580So long as they are totally ignorant of history and aren't of Cuban, Vietnamese, or Eastern European descent.
Descendants of gulag survivors say hi, and recommend you kill yourself.
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No.13600
>>13594And Descendents of Guantanamo and the whole US-Prison comlex say also "hi". Why do retards believe the GULAG was on the same level as Auschwitz agains?
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No.13601
>>13600(me)
Forgot to add survivors after Guantanamo and Prison Complex
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No.13648
>>20267
>statistics
Cringe and liberalpilled.
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No.18044
>>13537>fanatical patrioticcringe
>car cultureswut?
Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Punk and Hip-Hop are good examples of working class subcultures.
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No.18045
>>13537>fanatical patrioticcringe
>car cultureswut?
Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Pun>>13537
>fanatical patrioticcringe
>car cultureswut?
Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Punk and Hip-Hop are good examples of working class subcultures.k and Hip-Hop
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No.18075
I like the general idea but this sounds shit
>>18045I both agree and disagree. There has been attempts to create subcultures and it got people to hate them because it was too obvious example being Romo. However if it's not too blatantly obvious and if you get enough people involved people can mistake a manifactured subculture for a spontaneously occuring subculture and start following it if it actually appeals to them enough.
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No.18424
OK no offense but why whould any leftists subculture focus on car ownership, see how bikers became in America and Japan post 80s