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 No.15233[View All]

Old /co/ thread is dead and buried.
Let's have a new thread to talk about comics and animation.
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 No.17415

>>17411
wait he was a radlib and was against reganism
woah
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 No.17417

When is Freakazoid coming back
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 No.17435

>>17417
Preferably never. Warner have a track record of shitting on every animated reboot they’ve ever made and the original creators are now too busy sucking off batman to care.
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 No.17473

>>17435
yeah that's crazy that paul dini wrote for freakazoid
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 No.17876

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Just finished the entire Moebius collection. Sad that there will never be any other artist like him again. What a wonderful old crank.
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 No.17886

>>15233
>DD is a lawyer
>WW is a ruling class despot and have no problem with slavery.
>SM already have everything a man can want without having to work
>Fishman is a king.
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 No.17899

>>17886
That's the Flash, not Daredevil. He's worse, he's a mechanic for the police. GL is obviously a space-cop too.
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 No.17901

>>17899
are superheroes not basically cops?
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 No.17905

Was the multiverse gimmick a good or bad thing that happened to modern comic books

It pretty much lets you rewrite and redo and take and pick whatever you want.

Which comic book writer invented this trope by reading science books
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 No.17922

>>17876

What is that from? It looks dope
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 No.17923

>>17905

The worst thing that ever happened to comic books is the obsession with continuity that heralded the arrival of the multiverse stuff. Canon as a consept to get obsessed with ruined genre fic ever since it became a huge thing
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 No.17925

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>>17905
Probably the flash of two worlds being one of the first incarnation of comic multiverses. Probably started from DC’s corporate deciding that they want their cake and eat it too by taking a double dip in making two different characters with the same name.
Most comic writers can’t write multiverse for shit. It’s either extremely lazy crap or mega-autism with rigid rules.
>>17923
Agreed. The autism over it was stupid and led to a misuse of multiverse and parallel worlds into not a tool to tell interesting perspectives on the same character archetype but just pure over-indulgence in excess.
Hickman and Snyder are notorious for this. The former is notable to push his gay agenda against hope just to be dark for edginess’ sake and his obsession with graphs.
The latter on the other just want to wank Batman by recycling ideas.
>>17922
A Moebius story about how a US officer refusing to nuke the USSR in retaliation was executed for treason. Pretty cool and based.
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 No.17926

>>17923
The worst thing to ever happen to comic books was clowns in tights and capes.
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 No.17927

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>Job leaves me no time for comics
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 No.17931

>>17927
to read or to make?

>>17926
really
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 No.17947

>>17901
Kind of, they're vigilantes who are mostly tools for cops and government, but sometimes go against them. GL corps are literally a space police force.

I wish there could be an actually based story about Kilowog the GL's politics, he comes from a communist world, but the closest we got is some lib bullshit where he starts working with the USSR and then denounces them as too authoritarian.
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 No.17955

>>17901
I wouldn't call stoping the Joker from blowing the city, fucking a thief and making a kid with a half demon being a cop.
Now go read the watchmen.
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 No.17957

>>17931
to read, I have a pile of unread floppies since last week
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 No.17965

>>17957
such is life
i have the time but i lack the drive

i'll read one for you today
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 No.17967

>>17965
Solidarity forever
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 No.17968

>>17967
o7
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 No.17970

>>17926
Hey blame the game not the player. The CCA killed non-capeshit comics in its entirety and it’s still recovering from it.
>>17955
Morrison addressed this aspect the best.
>"I got interested in the class element of Batman: He’s a rich man who beats up poor people. It’s quite a bizarre mission to go out at night dressed as a bat and punch the hell out of junkies. And then he goes home and lives in this mansion. There’s an aspirational quality to him—he’s an outlaw and he can buy anything. He has a new Batmobile every movie. He’s very plutonian in the sense that he’s wealthy and also in the sense that he’s sexually deviant. Gayness is built into Batman. I’m not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There’s just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he’s intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay.I think that’s why people like it. All these women fancy him and they all wear fetish clothes and jump around rooftops to get to him. He doesn’t care—he’s more interested in hanging out with the old guy and the kid.”
http://www.playboy.com/playground/entertainment/culture/the-super-psyche
His entire run on Batman is in essence a way to avoid the inherent class aspects of a vigilante that is the views that not systematic solutions but individual actions can cure societal ills. He made it explicit that his Batman is too big to take on normal crime so that the fantastic can be explored.
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 No.17978

>>15991
Wait. They were supposed to be left wing?
They seemed more like neonazis to me.
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 No.17989

>>16491
homostuck
gooood
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 No.17991

>>17970
I don't want to sound pedantic but the CCA didn't kill non cape comics, non capes survived up until the early 70's
What killed non cape comics was the paperback novel, which also killed pulp/fiction magazines.
Paperbacks where very cheap for the amount of entertainment they offered and comics and magazines just could not compete. Cape comics survived because capes where a genre exclusive to comic books and so got no competition from paperbacks.
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 No.17997

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>>17978
Yeah in the comics they’re essentially Mautists. Crumb was explicitly hard on Maoism and China at the time as well as the western supporters of the ideology. Dude made an entire strip on trashing Mao’s comment on nukes being a paper tiger. In the strips, one of the cell member was a glowie from the start, something that he got from seeing some real Maoist orgs in San Francisco.Crumb ridicules his revolutionaries but more because they’re ineffective not because they’re extreme or evil like Bakshi.
The schism between Bakshi and Crumb in the adaptation of Fritz really mirrored the latter adaptation of watchmen by Snyder. Crumb basically had no say in the film with his signature on the contract wasn’t even confirmed to be his.
The film was a bastardized version of the three comics that not only got molded by Bakshi’s liberal mentality but also his love for extravagant violence and sex. Kinda like how Snyder made the scenes that was supposed to show silk spectre I in a vulnerable position into just another way of romanticizing rape. The fact that Fritz also became a projection for Bakshi’s extremely contradictory liberal beliefs is even worse, he saw Fritz as a fraud because deep down he interpreted his own shallow leftism as a fraud in of itself.
Dude nearly pissed himself when Crumb got Rodriguez and Wilson into the screening of Fritz.
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 No.17998

>>17970
Bro somebody tell morrisson that batman is just a very clueless volcel
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 No.18001

>>17998
Didn’t he go full non-binary recently? Makes sense since his wife is basically a female version of himself.
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 No.18018

>>18001
bro i straight up got alan morre and grant morrison mixed up
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 No.18205

>>16532
Issue 2 and a faction of the capes are literally invading china, busting open uiyghur concentration camps and parking nukes on Xi's successor's lawn, then having arguments about how they have to do it because interventionism is based.
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 No.18206

>>18205
Not something outside of Millar’s writing mind you. The dude genuinely believes in world policing even though the people who do it being a bunch of self righteous fascists. In his Authority run he had the group straight up invade Tibet and take it from China.
The only few comics that do this trope in a coherent way are books like Miracle Man where the “heroes” took over, overthrew capitalism, nation states and then rule over as gods. The other one of my personal guilty pleasure is No Hero, in which the world is so sick of the superpowered vigilantes that they joined forces to murder them all. Since these bastards had been in the world since the 70s most of their changes were horrific.
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 No.18254

>>18206
Yeah I'm not enjoying this book but I'll keep reading it for more lib idiocy.

No Hero is terrible, but I'm definitely also in that guilty pleasure camp. I think it's that one where the guy makes himself a dick out of someone's spine.
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 No.18581

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Any other good Argentinian comics? Just finished El Eternauta and it was truly phenomenal.
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 No.18869

What are some good long running web comics to bing read
I always enjoyed going through pages of that rotund guy who strangles an animephobic dodo

I've been thinking about reading that Ctrl+Alt+Del comic
Is it funny like that?

Drop some website links for some fun webcomics (If you can from the first page) I prefer non serialized

https://www.smbc-comics.com/
https://www.whompcomic.com/
http://www.deathbulge.com/comics
https://poorlydrawnlines.com/
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 No.18926

>>18581
Horacio Altuna's work is pretty fun.
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 No.18936

>>18869
>Is it funny like that?
imagine the time when gamers thought that they’re special snowflakes. That’s basically all of the comics content. K9BD or gunnerig court are better.
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 No.19104

Can anybody rec me some modern fruity superhero comic runs?

Colourful and bright to read?

I remember reading some avengers comic with ms.marvel and falcon capitan america and it was fun and i need to read something like that

Anything after 2015 is okay
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 No.19105

Do orphans write batman?

Like I don't know how you'd write a comic about something you've never really felt before, how would you channel those emotions
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 No.19106

>The Communist Red Skull vs. the Nazi Red Skull

What happened in the end
Who won?
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 No.19109

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WTF is wrong with the comics being so weirdly progressive in social aspects then straight up right wing when it comes to the economics of it
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>>19109
I hate these comics, They are so anti-progress, anti-human advancement

>omg no you can't create a post scarcity world bcos!!! it's new and weird!!! you just can't okay!!!

I fucking hate the avengers, loyal pigs to the american empire and they get to decide everything for the world

And I hate capitan america the most

Worst most annoying character that has ever existed in all of comics
the ignoramus is almost always rewarded for his foolish, old fashioned attitudes

I lost interest by the 7th issue where they forcefully make a issue for no reason for the x-men to fight the avengers again
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 No.19111

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I just skipped ahead to the last issue and they just do whatever and bring back the mutants after scarlett witch had wished the mutants out of existence because of muh sadness

Whatever. Now cyclops is the "bad guy" and shitstain america lectures him

Honestly spiderman is the only highlight of these major events and that's why I enjoy him in those mcu movies

He's completely out of place with these adults with omega level superpowers and he's just there quipping in the face of full annihilation and swinging around with some party strings

If anybody knows any other neutral spidey moments where he appears in these "deep and super serious" major marvel event to crack jokes let me know
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 No.19191

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The absolute state of western comics industry
Why is this so?
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 No.19194

>>19191
The Comics Code made Western comics develop in the direction of endless serial derivatives of capeshit.
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 No.19198

>>19194
but how does capeshit translate to this mess where reading the comics is troublesome requiring a guide
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 No.19200

>>19198
Because serial capeshit generally isn't attached to any single author. Dozens of different authors over the years have done their own takes on characters resulting in an incoherent mess of continuity and "universes".
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 No.19201

>>19198
Think of it as different directors for the same franchise. They end up covering the same ground with origins and big bads, but the tone and plot of each series is different.
Which is why the dark knight is the only Batman comic you should read.
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 No.19202

>>19200
>>19201
Alright I got it.
Do japanese authors have more control over their comics they make that stops giants like marvel and dc owning their creations and allowing differnet spins on it ?
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 No.19203

>>19202
Manga artists generally control their own stories and characters, although I have observed some instances (which seem to be increasing lately?) of authors whoring out their creations to other authors for side stories and sequels, like with Dr. Stone, Naruto, and My Hero Academy.
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 No.19204

>>19202
Depends on the publisher. Weekly Shounen Jump requires a chapter a week, forever. Those artists require help and direction from lesser artists as well as publisher big wigs. As long as the chapter gets done, and people like reading it, the series gets to stay another week.
This is why Araki (JoJo) moved to Ultra Shounen Jump monthly. This is also why Togashi (HxH) goes on so many hiatuses.

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