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 No.1660[Last 50 Posts]

Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.

&ltS Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001

&ltA Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
>Cocteau: Orpheus, Blood of a Poet
>Godard: Breathless, Band of Outsiders, The Little Soldier
>Kurosawa: Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Ran
>Mizoguchi: Sansho, Ugetsu
>Kobayashi: Seppuku, Human Condition
>Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse, Metropolis, M
>Bunuel: Discreet Charm, Simon of the Desert, The Exterminating Angel
>Kieslowski: Dekalog
>David Lynch: Anything, including Twin Peaks old and new.
>Ki-duk Kim: Spring, Summer…
>Gilliam: Brazil
>Kubrick (pt. 2): The Shining, Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, FMJ

&ltA- Tier - Entertainment
>Cronenberg: Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers
>Billy Wilder: One, Two, Three, Sunset Blvd, Witness for the Prosecution
>Becker: Le Trou, Touchez pas au Grisbi
>Melville: Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge, Bob le Flambeur
>Clouzot: Diabolique, Wages of Fear (the ultimate languagefag film)
>Bresson: A Man Escaped, Pickpocket
>Renoir: The Grand Illusion, Rules of the Game
>Ferrara: Bad Lieutenant, King of NY
>Jodorowsky: The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre
>Peckinpah: Straw Dogs, Alfredo Garcia
>Woody Allen: Annie Hall. All the other old-and-good ones too.
>Carpenter: The Thing, They Live
>Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs
>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. The rest can kinda fuck off.
>Hitchcock: Pretty much all of them.

Let's talk about movies, then. Don't have to be lefty films but obviously recommendations on that front are also welcome.
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 No.1661

>>1660
>>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver.
>The rest can kinda fuck off.
why tho
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 No.1663

>>1660
I could post a list but it would be so much the inverse of yours that I don't think it would be fruitful discussion.
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 No.1664

>>1661
Bit harsh maybe. He made some other good ones but those two are apart imo.

>>1663
Wait, wouldn't that actually make it fruitful tho?
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 No.1665

>>1663
Post it
What did you lads think about the Irishman? Gonna watch it today.
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 No.1667

>>1664
>>1665
Ok well alright. I'll just post my IMDB ratings

10 rated:
Network (1976)
Children of Men (2006)
Canadian Bacon (1995)
American Beauty (1999)
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Untouchable (2011)

Actually never mind, I just realised there's a share list feature, you can press 'sort by: top rated' to see the top stuff.

https://www.imdb.com/user/ur46013471/ratings
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 No.1672

>>1667
>Avengers 1 star
Based.
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 No.1673

>>1672
I haven't seen any of the capeshit/new Star Wars movies tbh but there was a brief period when Avengers Whatever had a higher score on the top 250 than The Godfather which I think is a travesty… and I don't even like the Godfather.
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 No.1674

>>1667
> The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure (2012)
lol what
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 No.1675

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>>1667
Network is mega-based. I actually can't believe I forgot Sydney Lumet on my list got dam.
>Sydney Lumet: Network, Death Trap, Dog Day Afternoon.

I still haven't seen Children of Men yet but people seem to like it. Will check it soon.
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 No.1676

Alright so some movies which I'd put in my top ten which people probably haven't seen would be:

Paths of Glory(Surprised nobody knows about it since it's a Kubrik, but it did get buried by the French government for telling French history [i]accurately[/i] COMPLETELY FALSE, THE FRENCH NEVER LOST A WAR!)

Tora Tora Tora(simply because of how accurate it is compared to some *cough* other films)

The Seven Samurai

The Lobster(I have a soft spot for absurdism that manages to tell a play in film format)

The French Connection(nothing revolutionary but it's quite accurate and tells the story it sets out to without convoluting it)
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 No.1677

>>1674
IIRC I voted that because a story came out that they were stuffing their own reviews and scores and that behaviour should be punished. Then I saw it in my list again that I gave it a 1 and thought 'well maybe that's a little harsh'.
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 No.1678

what's that fucking movie where a woman starts to cry because she can't believe how much less medicine costs in another country than in her own I've been looking for it ever since I saw someone mention that scene all the way back to old 8chan /leftypol/ FUCK which movie is it
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 No.1691

All right here's my top films:

Come and See
A Boy and his Dog
Reservoir Dogs
Akira
Taxi Driver (hated the ending tho)
Full Metal Jacket
Rango (that one is a real hidden gem)
Super Bad
Libertarias
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 No.1693

I don’t watch movies that much, but here’re my top 5 anyways:
>Casablanca
>the godfather
>12 angry men
>Joker
>Judgment at Nuremberg
I should probably start watching some soviet films tbh. Even /tv/tards shill for them.
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 No.1696

>>1693
I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalism
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 No.1701

My 5 favorite, probably in this order:
>Paris, Texas
>Sunset Boulevard
>Vertigo
>The Brood
>Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes

Pretty random makeup I guess, but these are the movies I've enjoyed the most so far.
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 No.1702

>>1676
>Paths of Glory
Love that one, would be my favorite of Kubrick if it wasn't for Dr Strangelove. The ending of Paths of Glory always strikes an emotional chord inside me, just like It's a wonderful life.

>Network (1976)

Mega based.

>I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalism

Yeah, but the film still expresses the best that liberalism gave us. It's really emotive and strong.
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 No.1703

What are some Soviet kinos?
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 No.1708

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>>1693
Tarkovsky GANG
Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's not for everyone and you might not like it, but you have to try.
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 No.1712

Hey, has anyone seen "parasite" yet?
People keep telling me it's good, but I keep hearing its analysis of class is shit.
Opinions?
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 No.1713

>>1708
>Tarkovsky
Yeah. I’ve just found his stuff on youtube, gonna watch it tonight.
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 No.1717

I liked The three colours trilogy. Especially Blue even though Red is the better film
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 No.3275

Currently checking out Kanopy for the first time through my public library. Anyone familiar with their catalogue and have any recommendations, preferably for foreign films? Deep cuts and classics are appreciated. I like French New Wave and Italian Neorealism but have seen most of the big names out of those movements (Godard, Truffaut, De Sica, et al.)
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 No.3290

Anyone got good and gritty Soviet war films that aren’t Come and See?
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 No.3450

What is your take on Fight Club? Not class conscious enough? Better than usual? Not enough?
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 No.3462

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>>1660
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Best_Fiend

fucking fantastic movie im such a big fan of all the Herzog character studies and i kinski is such a deranged werido
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 No.4594

The Cranes are Flying is top tier Sovietkino
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 No.4599

>>1660
I just finished reading Roadside Picnic and am about to watch Stalker. Really looking forwards to it, never seen anything by Tarkovsky before.
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 No.4604

How many fucking film threads are there FFS?
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 No.4611

>>4599
Let us know what you think once you're finished!
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 No.4622

>>1701
>Paris, Texas
I always forget this film when thinking of my favourites. A film that knows to take its time and not rely on constant shock and awe is always a pleasure.
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 No.4626

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Всем Русско-говоряшим смотреть!
[BadComedian] - На Париж (#СпасибоДедуЗаШалаву)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmC1HcTGBc
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 No.4627

>>1713
The sound on YouTube is shit, but I guess that comes from the entire restauration that was fucked up by the uploader (the official russian film archive I guess). You can hear that everything was redubbed, the foleys aren't right, etc. Are all versions available on the internet like this? Or should I wait for an obscure festival to have a original analog film projection?
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 No.4633

No love for Pasolini?
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 No.4740

>>4633
I enjoyed the Decameron. I consider Salo a failed film, and not because of the shock factor. Been a while since I've seen it though.

Which one is your favorite?
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 No.4867

>>4626
>No replies
Why?
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 No.5002

Who else wants the last Blockbuster in the world to stay? I hope it survives and can be a sort of museum. There were 9,000 of them around the world, but now there is only one left and it's in Oregon.

https://youtu.be/jJMEPHNjHE0
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 No.5004

>>5002
Blockbuster was a fucking legend, back when Netflix was sending CDs in the mail and online movies were unvailable except through Russian hacker torrents and Piratebay. I want that building of Nostalgia to stay up, its a great memory of simpler times.
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 No.5046

The Soviet war series "liberation" is now on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0t5CHhsuaM
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 No.5047

>>5046
Based GET
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 No.5048

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>>5047
didn't even realise
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 No.5073

>>1678
Perhaps it was Sicko (2007) by Michael Moore?
>A documentary comparing the highly profitable American health care industry to other nations, and HMO horror stories including shotgun deaths.


>Writer/producer Michael Moore interviews Americans who have been denied treatment by our health care insurance companies – companies who sacrifice essential health services in order to maximize profits. The consequences for the individual subscribers range from bankruptcy to the unnecessary deaths of loved ones.


>Moore then looks at universal free health care systems in Canada, France, Britain, and Cuba, debunking all the fears (lower quality of care, poorer compensation for doctors, big-government bureaucracy) that have been used to dissuade Americans from establishing such a system here. The roots of those health care systems are explored, and our failure to establish free health here care is traced to a) President Richard Nixon's deceptive support of the then-emerging HMOs pursuing huge profits and b) subsequent pressures for Congress to sacrifice sound health care in favor of corporate profit.


>A group of Americans who became ill from volunteering at 911 Ground Zero, but were refused health coverage for their illnesses, are ferried by Moore to Cuba, where they receive the top-rate, free care one would hope they'd get here at home.


>In his interviews, historical reportage, and typical sarcastic wit, Moore soundly condemns American health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, as well as the politicians who have been paid millions to do their bidding. He makes the case that there is something wrong with Americans that we cannot learn from the successes of other countries in providing better quality-of-health than we enjoy in the USA.
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 No.5074

>>1678
>>5073
Oh, yeah, I think it definitely is! Here's the scene:
https://youtu.be/j7cME3lCdwE?t=854
(that's 14:14 in the video)

I hope you're still around, anon
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 No.5103

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This one tho
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 No.5105

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Has anyone here seen Midsommar? If so what did you think of it? We watched it with friends (we are all euros) and the symbolic ties/gimmicks with neo-nazism in the states seemed obvious to me but not to them. Also the extreme collectivism is compared to Western indivualism, which by mirror effect is supposed to be extreme as well. Thus my analysis : being alone and without anybody to understand your burden isn't normal but showing mirroring empathy isn't. My liberal friend saw "human nature" in Dani's solitary suffering, and I tried to argue with him using anthropology as an example -which is ironic considering the importance it has in the film and he didn't seem to catch that. Am I giving the film too much credit on that?
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 No.5624

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Why do Ken Loach films seem like parodies of what a conservative thinks a socialist director would make?
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 No.5625

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Pans Labyrinth is hype and on netflix go watch it
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 No.5626

>>5105
All I know about midsommar is that some girl ik posted about about it and I hate her so now i dont want to see the movie
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 No.5630

>>5625
For those who don't know the film takes place in Francoist Spain.
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 No.5637

>>5626
I recommend you to watch it, it's great, trust me I'm not the girl you hate.
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 No.6325

>2 film threads
>both are good quality
&ltfuckers still post independent OPs for esoteric shit
Pathetic
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 No.6385

>>6325
Brainlets like to feel special.
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 No.6553

>>4867
Because Russian.
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 No.6565

>when the 2 film threads are both on Page 1
LOL
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 No.10320

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>how do you even measure the intellectual level of movies or do you just 'feel' like they are?
You measure by how they treat the viewer. As an example, in Captain Marvel there is a scene where she's breaking out of her chains. If the writer thinks the viewer is a retard, they'll add a shot of a side character going "She's breaking out!", which is exactly what they did. For a movie that expects its viewer to be moderately intelligent they'll assume the viewer can pick up on visual clues, like in Alita: Battle Angel (which doesn't require you to be a genius but you'll miss some stuff if you're not paying attention).

This has to do with the changing nature of the film business because of competition from streaming. The number of films released by major studios is down, as are the prospects of mid-budget films
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/is-the-mid-budget-movie-an-endangered-species
The studios are competing by betting on epic big budget films, much as they did in the sixties in their first battle with television. They also have the advantage of playing about as well everywhere in the world.

So, when you're spending 200 million on a single film, your focus is going to be on making sure the investment pays off, not innovation or art. That's why nearly all big movies are adaptations, reboots or sequels and why they're all so samey. The Marvel films in particular have hit upon a very efficient formula. Modern information technology has allowed media companies to narrow down the most safe and profitable content in media produced today.
They almost always have generic plots. And the epic ending is usually either battling thousands of faceless drones or fighting a villain who monologues every time the fight is about to transition, the serious hero says something serious, the jokey hero says a quip, then they generically fight some more, then something something sky beam does shit, the villain gets arrogant because the plan is working, then the hero says the final quip and the villain makes an “oh shit” face then dies.
Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, Thor Ragnarok, both Guardian of the Galaxy movies, Endgame and Black Panther to name just a few marvel movies all do this.

The reason this slides and is liked is because they don't know nor understand alternatives of the past or future. People have no hope so they look up to mythological tales set in modern era and the destruction takes place which one might enjoy in a nihilistic way. It very much reflects many more simple hero-stories of Greek Mythology, however lacking the counterbalances in the form of tales of Oedipus, Orpheus and Phersephone, the Illiad and Hercules' labours. These criticized many aspects of over-powered Greek heroes like Theseus, who just win at everything and are smarter and stronger than anyone they meet.

This reflects Adorno's laments on cultural decay and machinization, in his theory of social spectacle and the resulting industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m_7G31yh4

I wonder from time to time if Adorno and the other Frankfurts were purposefully targeted as conspirators specifically because cultural degradation has always been a reactionary racket, and the right didn't want competition from the left in the marketplace. After all, the CIA has literally admitted to helping this along, with people like Gloria Steinhem being their direct assets as well as Ghettofication and subsequent thug subculture after revolutionary leaders were removed and replaced by angry liberals.
>https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-the-cia-created-gangsta-rap.701728/
>https://newspunch.com/cia-hip-hop/
>https://daily.jstor.org/was-modern-art-really-a-cia-psy-op/
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 No.10321

>>10320
there is nothing wrong with pouring beer on your tits
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 No.10322

>>10321
Ok porky
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 No.10324

>>16531
I've seen this, but so long ago that I've forgotten the actual movie. Imma watch later. Maybe respond
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 No.13797

>>1712
its very good and not as on the nose as a lot of the praise and detraction might make you think.
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 No.13798

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 No.13799

Been really into Pasolini lately, recently watched Arabian Nights and Salo or 120 Days of Sodom. Both were masterpieces, though I'm not sure Arabian Nights would resonate with someone who hasn't read the source before.
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 No.13800

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>>13799
Like just look at this framing
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 No.13819

A lot of old stuff here, I will try to give a list of recent directors (alongside two films) and draw a hardline at the millenium (though most are within the decade).

Flannel blanket with hot cocoa tier:
> Jim Cummings: Thunder Road, The Wolf Of Snow Hollow
> Kantamir Balagov: Beanpole, Closeness
> Jonathon Glaser: Under The Skin, Birth, Sexy Beast
> Nuri Bilge Ceylan: Winter's Sleep, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia
> Thomas Clay: Fanny Lye Deliver'd, The Great Ecstasy Of Robert Carmichael

Fluffy quilt tier:
> Peter Strickland: In Fabric, the Duke Of Burgundy
> Richard Ayoade: Submarine, The Double
> Park Chan Wook: I'm A Cyborg And That's Ok, The Handmaiden
> Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster
> Quentin Dupieux: Wrong, Rubber

Decent Blanket Tier:
> Jeff Nichols: Take Shelter, Midnight Special
> John Cameron Mitchell: Hedwig and the Angry Inch, How To Talk To Girls At Parties
> Darren Aronofsky: Black Swan, The Fountain
> Ben Wheatley: A Field In England, Kill List
> Panos Cosmatos: Mandy, Beyond The Black Rainbow
> Daniel Scheinert: The Death Of Dick Long, Swiss Army Man


Honourable mentions to some filmmakers still at it but also span back a while so I didn't include above:
Peter Greenaway: Eisenstein In Guanajuato, Drowning By Numbers
Mike Leigh: Peterloo, Naked
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 No.13820

>>13819
Please, kinophile anons, could you tell me what's so great about the film Rubber?
I got curious about it ike 5 years ago, but never to to actually watching it
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 No.13821

>>13820
Would you like a pretentious essay or the truth? Because to be honest I just found it funny and liked that it took plot turns I didn't expect it to while the on screen audience reacted basically how various people I know would react to the movie.
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 No.13822

>>13821
Yeah that's fine. It it's genuinely funny and doesn't get repetitive I'll watch it.
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 No.13824

are there any geiger alien movies besides the first two that are worth watching?
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 No.13842

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i miss this nigga
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 No.13876

Has anyone watched the movie King Charles III?
What did you make of it?
Here it is for those who are interested: https://vimeo.com/445148461
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 No.13941

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 No.14059

I'm usually not into biopics but this looks interesting.
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 No.14061

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My favorite movies are marvel movies and star wars and anything else thats popular with my friends

I dont go for all that weird stuff you guys are talking about
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 No.14062

>>14059
looks like some fed glowie shit ngl.
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 No.14234

Everyday this scorsese guy whines about muh art form
They make millions and weep for the imaginary indie director or some shit
Why can't these old directors shut the fuck up with their pile of money.

Film is not a important cultural issue to be talking about in pop culture. Pretentious rich cunts should die off.
I hate every director with a passion, They are high off their own asses
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 No.14235

Watched À Bout de Souffle (1960) last night after checking out La Chinoise (1967), liking the latter but being too tired to finish it.
My god, I fucking hated À Bout de Souffle - they say La Chinoise isn't "good" as a first Godard because it represents a pretty big departure from classic French New Wave toward a more purely didactic style, but I actually found that more innovative, engaging and daring than the self-absorbed meaninglessness of À Bout de Souffle. That surface-level conversation, that smugly style-over-substance attitude, those insufferable midwit main characters, is that just what the French New Wave usually is or am I totally missing something? Or are there other films by Godard that simply evolve the same style in a more interesting direction (I've heard good things about Vivre Sa Vie [1962])?
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 No.14622

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I know it's kinda wokesploitation but I enjoyed and found it very moving
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>>1660
The first film I'll contribute is Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon, here's a video showcasing some of its best shots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo. It's not just visually beautiful, it's a great drama, every scene is captivating and the protagonist Redmond Barry (later, Barry Lyndon) is relatable and multi-dimensional. The acting is great, the cinematography is amazing. It's a little bit long at over 3 hours, but you don't ever feel like Kubrick wasted time or included filler. Silent moments are full of meaning, which is communicated by the environment or by the actions of the characters of the scene. Go watch it, it's great.
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 No.14679

>>1660
>>14678
Elia Kazan's A Face in the Crowd is an engaging drama that explores the cost of fame, and at the same time criticizes the media industry for it. Andy Griffith's performance is legendary and elevates the film into a must-watch. It isn't beautiful like Barry Lyndon, but it has good cinematography, dramatic scenes make good use of shadows and camera motion. The actors, especially Andy Griffith, express an impressive amount of emotion through facial expressions alone. Must-watch if you enjoy dramas.

BTW I know that the director Elia Kazan is kind of anathema to leftists b/c of his testimony to HUAC but at the same time this movie has a redeeming theme in its criticism of the culture industry. One of my favorite films ever.
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 No.14680

>>14679
Thought I should add that it's a lot more than just a criticism of the culture industry, it criticizes racism, sexism, the sexualization of minors, and elitism, among others
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 No.14681

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>>14235
Agree tbh. A bout de souffle is the beginning, and imo the evolution of Godard during the new wave period is what made him compelling as a director moreso than any particular film. Have you seen Le Mépris (1963) or Pierrot le fou (1965)? You can feel the evolution in motion very keenly in both of those and it's very engaging.

If you liked La Chinoise I'd recommend Tout va bien (1972). It has a coherent narrative structure and a far less cynical dialogue/consideration of the left while remaining unabashedly experimental. If I do have a favorite movie of his, it's probably this one.
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 No.14682

>>14678
>>14679
Based. Two classics I've missed but heard about. You've definitely sold me on both. I'll report here when I've seen them!
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 No.14690

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my favorite movie? The one where Ryan Gosling plays a weird depressed loner.
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 No.14700

This is a music video, but it uses scenes from a very beautiful 1973 dutch movie called Turks Fruits
https://youtu.be/ksEHfUof184
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 No.14733

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This series profoundly changed my view Trotsky and the whole political situation of Russian civil war. Its not totally historically accurate and its a little bit tacky with its low budget and some bad actors but I'm having fucking dreams about this series. I fucking cried and went into revolutionary bloodlust as the series progressed. I cannot recommend this series enough.

But this morning I was in a such melancholic/romantic (there isn't a English word for this) state this morning after the love of my life killed herself in my dream. The dream seemed to take a lifetime for me. I was Trotsky in Havana not Mexico and at the end of the dream I was watching movie about myself that a sexy French journalist made about me and she wanted to show everyone the true Trotsky with his weaknesses but also the love story between me and my wife. Me and my wife stared at each other with love as the black and white movie rolled in the background. Later my wife threw herself from a bridge because we were in some kind of terrible situation and basically fugitives. I didn't care about the crowd mocking me I was occupied with sorrow and bitterness and was organizing mobster like communist terrorism shootouts. I wish I had written it all down but the feeling stays still in the evening.
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 No.14792

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Hi people, sharing another film, this time it's "To Live" (or Lifetimes) by Zhang Yimou, a Chinese historical drama tracing the life of a man and his family from pre-Revolution China to the end of the Cultural Revolution and everything in between. The soundtrack is simple and poignant, which befits the straightforward narrative. The dramatic scenes feature the recurring riff in different emotional contexts, which ties them together; the decades-spanning narrative is totally cohesive. It's moving and is just as effective on a rewatch. Here is a youtube link, although it's not in HD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNTd0dydfE4
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 No.14793

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>>14792
Here is another one, "Dear Comrades!" from veteran Russian filmmaker Andrei Konchalovsky, a film about the 1962 Novocherkassk massacre, in which a protest over consumer price increases led to the deaths of 26 people. Right off the bat the film has an austere tone, it's shot in black and white and framed in 4:3, no doubt emulating Soviet films of the 1960s. The massacre and the events leading up to it are told exclusively from the perspective of Lyudmila, a bureaucrat serving on a city committee, who experiences a crisis of faith. Since I'm posting on leftypol.org I should emphasize it's not a crude anti-soviet movie, it should be interpreted as a character study of a person whose trauma conflicts with her convictions.
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 No.15456

File: 1620252864495.mp4 ( 26.19 MB , 1920x1080 , Tom Cruise Repeats Everyth….mp4 )

Anybody else notice this? I saw this video and now everytime I see that movie I laugh my ass off
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 No.15457

>>13941
Ah yes, give one of your main characters a face contraption that makes it really hard to understand what he's saying
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 No.15458

>>15457
ov corsh!
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 No.15466

>>15456
Metal Gear?!
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 No.15474

>Klimov: Come and See
Out of all soviet films you had to pick this one. Plebean taste.
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 No.15478

>>15474
>First item in OP's list is Tarkovsky
And to think you're calling anyone a plebeian. How embarassing!
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 No.15479

>>15478
Kinda missed that. The thing is, it doesn't change what is said. Those films are pretty meh or even shit compared to what soviet cinema can offer. Unless you are some fart-sniffin liberal
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 No.15483

>>15479
How about you post the "best ones" then, comrade of impeccable taste?
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 No.15486

>>15483
Чапаев, Великий Гражданин, Доживем до понедельника, Премия, Кин-дза-дза.

If we also add TV series then Вечный зов and Тени исчезают в полдень.

Plenty of ther ones.
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 No.15489

>>15486
It's a start, I'll check em out. Thanks.
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 No.15490

>>15489
I am not sure they have translation or subs to english though.
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 No.15616

Any Soviet (or Russian) WW2 movie recommendations? Other than Come and see.
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 No.15655

>>5624
Because Ken Loach is one of the few prominent Western relics of social realist, explicitly left-wing filmmaking. As modern cinema got increasingly co-opted by liberals and their post-modern views on narratology and art, every movie that is deemed as "having a message" is either banal, surface-level drivel or purposefully ambiguous, preferring meta-commentary and stylistic expression to telling an actual story, honest-to-god story about the working class.
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 No.15658

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>>15616
17 Moments of Spring. It was a USSR state-sponsored TV series about a Russian spy in German high command near the end of the war. Can't recommend it enough.
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 No.15697

Give me the most depressing film. Not something cheap and moralizing but something that crushes your soul no matter how numb or already disadvantaged you are.
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 No.15841

1. Bram Stoker's Dracula( Coppola)
2. Ray Got His Gun
3. Hell comes to Frogtown
4. Speedracer( Wachowsky siblings )
5. Star Wars Prequel Trilogy
6. Norah( Aronovsky)
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 No.15850

>>15697
"Antichrist" (Von Trier) would fit that description fairly well imo.
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 No.15852

>>14059
watched it, pretty good
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 No.15870

>>15697
Come and See
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 No.15871

>>15697
Frownland
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 No.15876

>>1667
>Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Such a good fucking show
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 No.15922

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 No.15959

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What are the chances The Room was unironically a money laundering scheme? I thought it was crazy talk before but I read some good arguments for it recently
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 No.15966

>>15959
I don't know anything about that theory. I only know that Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.
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 No.16058

>>1660
Trying to figure out how you managed to not include the Coen borthers.
Also Hitchcock has plenty of excellent films, but when you make over 50 films some of them are duds. Saboteur (1942) is the big one for me
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 No.16080

>>15966
>>15966
>Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.
who wants to make Tommy Wiseau a communist
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 No.16094

>>16080
I don't know what he would think about it, because according to The Disaster Artist, he had a lot of bad experiences growing up in the Eastern Bloc (other source claims it was Poland), but was treated even worse when he migrated to Western Europe. Then, he moved to the US.
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 No.16095

>>16094
woah he lived in the eastern bloc
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 No.16106

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>timeless
>it's literally called 2001
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 No.16272

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>completely shameless Sovietboo hardliner who wears his general's uniform including Hero of the Soviet Union medallion
>keeps a nuclear arsenal, strikes fear into the hearts of Yeltsinites and Americans alike
>makes the kleptocratic oligarchs in Moscow shit themselves along with their puppet masters
>ready to invade Russia itself with his massive fanatical army
>his biggest fanboy/henchman gary oldman is a badass villain whose every criticism of American imperialism is correct with no hyperbole whatsoever (in a rabidly pro-American film with Harrison Ford as the goddamn president)
>from prison, has his men seize the highest-value target in the world as leverage for his release
>walks out of his cell triumphantly
>the entire inmate population sings the Internationale in his honor
>puts on his uniform and walks out
Is he /ourguy/?
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 No.16276

>>16272
Yes. Air Force One is the tragic tale of how a hero of the Soviet Union was struck down by the American imperialists and their Yeltsinite lapdogs. But there is hope since the Kazakh SSR continues to exist with its nuclear arsenal even at the end of the film.
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 No.16283

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 No.16345

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>>15697
Naked by Mike Leigh
It's depressing because it never stop being grimier, and it became soul-crushing to me when I realized the main character was just a psychopathic pseud, there was nothing profound in all his ramblings, his nihilistic posture is his own way to bully the people around him
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 No.16346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78ELzCaOfA
I liked the trailer of this move recently

It reminded me of previews while being in theater during intermissions
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 No.16360

>>16283
I GOTTA WATCH THIS FILM HOLY SHIT
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 No.16367

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Has anyone here seen Miss Marx? It's a biopic of the life of Eleanor Marx. WoosWoos had a negative review claiming it exclusively focuses on her personal instead of her political life, which I could guess from the trailers. Just want to know if it's still worth watching or pure liberal feminist cringe.

Also can't find a torrent of it if anyone wants to help
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 No.16369

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>>15697
Testament of 1983, without a doubt. It's the story about how a family in a Norman Rockwell style close-knit rural town tries to survive the aftermath of an all-out nuclear war. There is no bombing scene, no mushroom cloud, no political context - just a series of bright flashes, the power goes out, never comes back on, and everyone is left to die of starvation and radiation sickness. Threads is shocking, but Testament is slow, hopeless despair.
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 No.16408

>>16345
I wish I could find more movies like it becaause it really made me think about how i act towards everyone
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 No.16425

>>16367
what's a woo woo

>https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=44066510


install qbittorrent if you already don't have
it has a search engine built in
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 No.16441

>>16425
Woos Woos is WSWS/World Socialist Web Site
>it has a search engine built in
Not that anon but I installed it yesterday and you need to install search engines for each torrent site. Any recommendations and where can I get them?
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 No.16450

>>16441
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficial-search-plugins

i think it comes with some built in you just gotta update them
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 No.16464

File: 1623631205999.mp4 ( 23.32 MB , 1280x720 , Miss Marx excerpt.mp4 )

>>16367
>>16425
I just watched Miss Marx, thanks for the torrent link. Here's my review:

Well, WoosWoos wasn't wrong. Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view in favor of her personal relationships with her family and Edward Aveling. After bizarre title credits mutilated in After Effects and set to punk rock, the film begins with a (fictional) eulogy by Eleanor at Karl Marx's funeral, which sets the tone for the rest of the drama: "[Karl and Jenny] never doubted, they never faltered, and they were faithful until death". Immediately after the funeral Eleanor is hit up by Edward Aveling (not present historically), which kicks off a relationship much rockier than the one she just described. What follows is a plodding romantic drama wherein Eleanor struggles to reconcile with Edward's sexual infidelity and profligate spending.

Like I said before, Eleanor's political activities are usually kept in the background as literal set dressing. WoosWoos (of course) denounces the film's "feminist outlook", but this the only trace of this comes from the one sole feminist speech shown in the trailer. I had thought for sure that Eleanor's confrontation with Ernest Belfort Bax would be portrayed. Bax was a leading Marxist theorist with rhetoric similar to today's Men's Rights Activist movement; as an open opponent of women's suffrage he provoked an incensed Eleanor Marx to challenge him to a public debate (Bax refused). Bax is nowhere to be seen, nor any other major figures from the British socialist movement. Instead, the climactic event in the story is a (fictional) deathbed revelation from Engels that Karl Marx was the real father of Freddy Demuth, therefore exposing that her father was just as deceitful as Aveling. (The "Marx's illegitimate son" theory is probably not true, see https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/terrell-carver/article.htm)

I have a few more things to nitpick: first, practically none of the figures portrayed in the film are recognizable compared to their historic photographs. This can be forgiven for the lead roles, but a little extra makeup would go a long way for fans of the Marxist Cinematic Universe to spot cameos in the background, like Liebknecht, Bernstein, etc. Second, while all the actors give decent performances, the script is flawed. It waters down the political content and adds exposition (IE, no family nicknames like "Mohr" and "The General"), but apparently not enough to appease general critics. On the flipside of this the Marxist audience is slighted, the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrong. Enough things have been changed for dramatic license that I don't trust the characterization of Eleanor to be "real". Finally, the anachronistic punk rock soundtrack is cringeworthy every single time it shows up. The absolute worst scene is the inexplicable dance sequence at the end, which - apparently - symbolizes the moment Eleanor decided to end her life.

Overall score: 1.5/4 stars. TL;DR: plodding romantic drama devoid of political content that fails both as entertainment and as a historic biopic. Skip unless you're really bored.
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 No.16467

>>16464
>Marxist Cinematic Universe
lol
I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeral
>the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrong
YOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??

>Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view

you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it? and I see what you mean by "using the political activities as literal set dressing"
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 No.16470

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>>16467
>I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeral
Unfortunately, no. Although thinking about it reminds me of his characterization again, the Engels shown in the movie could never deliver that famous speech.
>YOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??
Not as an essential role but yes, he has a few scenes. Pic related is him in the movie.
>you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it?
Pretty much yes. There is a montage style scene showing her day-to-day political work that I excerpted from, then one more speech that implies Aveling's abuse inspired Eleanor to become a feminist. This biopic of a famous revolutionary has maybe five minutes worth of political content.
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 No.16472

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>>16464
What a disappointment. You'd really expect more out of this story than just an honestly (and ironically) sexist interpretation. I remember seeing the trailer, like the movie it was set to a punk rock soundtrack and it reeked of "girlboss" vibes.
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 No.16476

i've never watched network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc

what is this speech about
is it the corporate character going full "capitalism is everything, there is no idpol" type speech

i can't be arsed to listen to the entire thing
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 No.16477

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>>16476
Watch the movie, it's even on the /leftypol/ reading list AND a top movie of all time.

If you don't have time or are a lazy bastard:
The main character, news anchor Howard Beale, suffered a mental breakdown and rants about the world being shit. His jaded boss lets it air because "it's the truth", and instead of being fired, Beale becomes start of a televangelist-like show. He has delusions of being a prophet, and at one point he learns about and preaches against how the TV station's conglomerate parent is about to be sold to the Saudis. A chairman of the conglomerate, Arthur Jensen (Ned Beatty), then brings him to a room and performs this speech to manipulate him into preaching his "corporate cosmology", similar to what you said, a 'money is the quantum of life today, there aren't nations or peoples, just money', which he claims will someday bring a post-warfare, post-scarcity, post-mortal utopia. (The "why me?" back and forth at the end verbatim mirrors what Beale claimed God had said to him in an earlier scene)
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 No.16478

>>16477
so what exactly is the movie about
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 No.16479

>>16478
Literally? Read the wikipedia synopsis.
Thematically? A satire of television corporate media in general, in particular profit-over-morals, media circus, media desensitization and dehumanization.
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 No.16554

what is the ideology/story of citizen kane?
i've never watched it
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 No.16588

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 No.16590

>>16588
who the fuck is this orange uhyga and why the fuck is he everywhere
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 No.16856

https://twitter.com/johencho/status/1407076394652225549

I don't get it
Why is everybody saying the boyfriend from Devil Wears Prada was bad and the villain?

From where I see it, He was the right one. She was becoming too bougie and he maturely left her
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 No.16980

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Sooo, you guys have watched it, right??
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 No.17906

why do people like boogie nights
from the wikipedia film summary it sounds like just another story about rags to riches than to rags again because of sex and drugs story

is it the dialogue and acting that's good about it? because it sure doesn't sound the like the story is anything special.
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 No.17908

>>16980
No, should we ? what is it about ?
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 No.17911

>>17906
It was good / fresh for its time, but it aged like milk imo. Saw it when I was young and even back then I realized it's a shit film.
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 No.17912

>>17911
reading the letterboxd reviews made me think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, i felt insane

somebody quoted a line from the movie and it was the goofiest shit imaginable. something out of cartoon. but they wrote up so much fluff on how great the movie is.

sometimes i feel like people just keep this long prank going on where they praise a thing because others are praising it too just to keep some random semblance of status quo going on

do you remember anything else about watching it in theatres? it's been a long while since i've been in one
recount anything if you can
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 No.17934

2001 like most of Kubrick's work is overrated garbage

Some of my favorites:

> Chinatown

> Solaris / (Mirror, Stalker)
> Vertigo/ (Rear View, Psycho)
> Salo, or 120 Days of Sodom
> Akira

>>16477
Network is garbage and the director is a Proudhonist and an actual Zionist - his Marxist hateboner is apparent too.
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 No.17936

>>17934
What's so bad about Kubrick
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 No.17938

>>16472
It's the same shit as every other "girlboss" movie coming out in the past decade - generic, ironically sexist to both men and women and disgustingly stupid.
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 No.17941

>>17936
I just think he's an overrated hack with above-average shots. Eyes Wide Shut is good, but I fucking hate everything else he's made especially 2001 - and its insulting to put him next to actual auteurs like Polanski/Tarkovsky/Ozu etc
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 No.17942

>>15697
Груз 200
Awful film (see >>10107 ) but made in such a way that it leaves you black inside - I only recommend if you like being suicidal.

>>15616
А Зори Здесь Тихий
Отец Солдата
Они Срожались За Родину
В Бой Идут Одни Старики
Освобождение
Аты Баты Шли Солдаты
Жаворонок (1965)


>>13798
Try Archive.is, the site must have made itself PPV
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 No.17945

>>17934
The director is anarchist?
Why does he hate marxists

>>17936
Speaking of Kubrick what did that furry oral sex in the Shining mean?

It's so fucking weird and confusing
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 No.17946

>>16470
why is my mans looking like dr.frasier claus
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 No.17951

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Revisionists. Revisionists everywhere. Even in the MCU.

I love the chunky anarchist communist superhero.

I just want to know one thing.
Am I out of touch or are they out of touch?

Tattooing "Karl Marx" on your knuckles is a weird thing to do even for a communist, Yes?
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 No.17954

>>17951
It was a garbage film but despite him being portrayed as an idiot, The Captain was the best character in the movie.

Also
>Tattooing "Karl Marx" on your knuckles is a weird thing to do even for a communist
More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.
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 No.17958

>>17945
Ah sry the screenwriter I meant,I actually like the director (mash is great which he also dirrcted) but the screenwriter was a Zionist socdem (his words) but his vision is essentially proudhonist if you watch the film.
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 No.17964

>>17954
>More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.

wtf how does that mock the communists
did they think they would escape out and beat the communists with their fists thus being ironic?
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 No.18003

>>17951
What film is that? I don't watch Marvel.
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 No.18011

>>17964
well yes that irony is a part of it, but frankly it' a bit hard to explain Russian prison life, myself being aware of it only through people I knew who were there. It's similar to people tattooing religious figures and other stuff on themselves in prison there, there is a double meaning within the criminal world, that only criminals really know, like the origins of their nicknames and such.

>>18003
The Black Widow movies, basically it's that shitty Red Sparrow but less graphic and with bad humor thrown in.
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 No.18037

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Japanese New Wave is kino and I have been binging it for the past year or so. My favorite is Throw Away Your Books Rally In The Streets. It has a killer soundtrack as well
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 No.18361

Best Laid Plans is forgotten kino. IMHO
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 No.18412

>>1660
I watched Aguirre the other day; great film.
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 No.18426

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Anyone seen picrel? It has some pretty good reviews.

It's a chinese movie about communist spies that received training in the Soviet Union doing a job over at the puppet state of Manchuko.

Trailer: https://youtu.be/dlQYk0O56HU
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 No.18429

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What does /hobby/ think of this movie?
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 No.18493

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>>18426 (me)

I've watched it, and it's a very good spy movie. At the beginning, we see one of the communists spilling out details about the operation to avoid being shot, but our four protagonists don't know about it. The operation is kaput from the start, which makes sure the movie is always tense. All of the spies are smart, making moves to withhold/extract information from others. This feels exactly like what a spy movie should feel.

Unfortunately, I can't say I enjoyed the movie to it's fullest. There were moments where I couldn't absorb new information fast enough. All the characters wear the same clothes, which did not make things easier, plus I find remembering their names quite hard. A character/event flowchart would be a welcome companion while watching it.

From what I've been able to research, this is actually a prequel to the 2012 tv show "悬崖" (Cliff) by the same writer, Quan Yongxian. In an interview (https://inf.news/entertainment/bd5332246260958e06dc8ead644ec3da.html), he said that in 2015 he had written the script for this prequel as a 60-episode show.

If this had been a tv show – or even a book –, where things could flow in a more friendly pace, this would've been a absolute must watch. Overall, it is a very good movie, and I recommend anyone interested to watch it, even though you'll scratch your head sometimes and may wish to rewind a bit to understand what is happening (though I didn't, and was still able to enjoy it very much).
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 No.18499

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>>1660
>La Chinoise not being on the /leftywatchlist/
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 No.18501

>>18429
Everything I know about Soul Plane, I learned from The Boondocks.
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 No.18538

Anyone seen L'An 01?

>The film narrates a utopian abandonment, consensual and festive of the market economy and high productivity. The population decides on a number of resolutions, beginning with "Let's stop everything," and the second "After a period of total stoppage, let's bring back — reluctantly — just the services and products we can't do without. Probably : water to drink, electricity for reading at night, the radio to say 'This is not the end of the world, this is Year 1, and now a page of Celestial Mechanics." The implementation of these resolutions is the first day of a new era, Year 1. L'An 01 is emblematic of the challenge of the 1970s and covers such diverse topics as ecology, negation of authority, free love, communal living, rejection of private property and labor.
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 No.18540

Have no idea whether to watch the 90s Treasure Island movie first or read the book first
might also watch the 50s version and Muppets version after just out of curiousity
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 No.18882

Ayy montecellos (New word I just invented)

Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watch?
I don't mean like are there 2 minutes of good fights and comedy

Is the entire experience fun to watch?
Is it plagued by the same problems of the other monsterverse movies where the human characters are utterly boring?
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 No.18883

>>18429
I'll watch this
It looks like there'll be boobs innit
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 No.18958

I hate the only theatres shit so much.

I want to pirate Free Guys and watch it when it comes out not 6 months after. I liked the forced digital shit HBO did

If we weren't living in capitalism. This wouldn't even be a problem. We would still have theatres for the culture without forcefully releasing first only on theatres for muh economy.
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 No.18973

>>18958
try Kinogo.la, thy have all the versions of nearly every film and tv series from all sorts of countries and can be downloaded
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 No.18974

>>18882
>Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watch
There's a good review of the movie from a cinematographical perspective on the /m/ thread on >>>/anime/

It's a fun, cheesy but generally silly movie, so maybe not to your tastes.
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 No.18980

>>18973
Thanks for the new piracy site

>>18974
And Thanks for the review. I feel like I can enjoy this movie.
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 No.18985

>>18980
>I can enjoy this movie
I certainly did, and I'm glad to help both with the review and the site.
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 No.19080

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Jd149IVSY
This vid got me thinking about background actors

Who is the best background actor? You will never know.

Because if you have a favourite background actor then haven't they jobs already? Their not supposed to take the attention away from the main characters but they did somehow. Standing out is bad if you're job is to blend in with the scenery and be background

We will never have an award for the best background actors because it'd be so hard to pick the best one
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 No.19199

Why teh fuck is there an entire genere of italian films that's about "le savage cannibals, nudity and gore" as their main plot?

WTF was happening in italy in that time? Why does italian expolitation genre exist

is the wiki page to understand this good?
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 No.19212

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Thoughts on Pier Paolo Pasolini?
As a person and a filmmaker?

There's a lot of history to him
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 No.19213

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>>19212
Extremely based, Salo and Arabian Nights are beautiful films.
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 No.19214

>>19213
irl he was a gay communist gigachad
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 No.19215

>>19213
Have you watched salo? does the message of fascism bad really set it apart from the other disturbing borderline snuff films that salo is usually categorized with?


>>19214
about that
why was he assassinated
was it differences in the Italian Communist Party, The religious fundamentalists who hated him for being gay and communist or some other mafia related reason
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 No.19216

>>19215
It's not really a snuff film and does pound for pound have real artistic merit

I don't know about his assassination or much about the italian communist party
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 No.19217

>>19216
This line of questioning is so pointless too, just watch Salo its on fucking rarbg you could finish it and have an opinion on it in two hours.
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 No.19220

>>19217
Why is it pointless?
I don't want to watch it but I want to understand it

Accidentally hearing some scenes from the movie in a youtube video as a child still disturbs me
I hate the word "manja" whenever I hear it because of the movie.

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