>>465996How does lots of dead workers + an apparatus to liquidate those who survive, populated by screaming death cult fanatics = workers have a stronger position? It has long been understood that the strength of the workers is their numerical superiority and the resources they bring to bear - their bodies. Access to machines can be revoked at any time if any worker is considered a potential trouble source, but actually killing many millions of people, who are ostensibly of your own nation, is not an easy task. The subordinated classes do not have any good reason to turn on each other, and a sense that if an open democide is the organizing principle of human society, they are likely to be next no matter what promises they are given that they're in the know and in the group selected to live. That has been one of the greatest barriers to depopulation - that even the groups selected to live have a sense that this operation is grotesque and not truly in their interest. The great numbers of workers are of little consequence to most people of the middle or upper classes, because many of the upper classes did not have a personal vendetta against the lower classes, and the lower classes are deferential to a fault to their social superiors. All of this depopulation agenda is driven by certain middle and upper class elements that are driven by ideology and a particular ethos, rather than any true incentive for it. Ideology and institutions can perpetuate the cycle of death, but none of this depopulation death and the torture involved is actually helpful or beneficial. It doesn't make us better in any way, and the ideas of depopulation have to invent insane and self-contradictory moral and ethical codes just to get their loyal officers to lock ranks with the program. The middle and upper classes already secured their property against any lower class incursion - the lower classes simply didn't want to seize the property of the rich, because that wasn't really the concern of the lower classes. What the lower classes wanted was not to rule, but to be able to live their life. Actually ruling is difficult because politics, as you might have figured out, is not easy and it is not a sport that weak men can play. That is one problem with making the whole economic system a political matter down to the smallest detail; and that is why in practice, a socialist society would not indulge in obsessive micromanagement, but would mitigate the worst of it. The political struggle largely concerns the oligarchic concentration of wealth, which is predicated on denying to the subordinated classes exactly that which would allow them to live and be secure. It is not that the oligarchy takes literally everything or they're concerned with the paper money. The oligarchy knows that the way to control the subordinated groups is to make them dependent on institutions controlled by the oligarchy, and threaten to remove their means of survival if they offend the oligarchy by merely existing or not conforming to what the oligarchy wants. That means that it is precisely that which workers truly need that is denied to them. They can have however much garbage they want, so long as they don't have quality of life that would allow them to escape the oligarchs. The lower classes simply want that apparatus gone, and they don't care how it is done.
It should be noted that this depopulation isn't done by a tiny cabal that is super-secret. The drive for depopulation has a base supporting it that is class collaborationist. It is not a particularly large conspiracy, and the drivers of the conspiracy - the leaders giving the thumbs-up saying this torture and death is approved - are a small group selected as the vanguard for this task. Many of the people enthusiastically going along with depopulation and eugenics are habitual followers and the shittiest sort of people, who have always found some pretext to attack other people to get ahead. Eugenics selected those people for advancement, and encourages that behavior among people who would see that eugenics does nothing for them. How this is done is a complicated story, but eugenics is able to prevail because of institutional approval, and because it is basically illegal to oppose eugenics in any way that would truly impede its progress and its invasion of private life. Those who truly are oppositional to the system are neutralized or othered, because meaningful opposition to eugenics would run against political principles that are active today, that are not reducible to simply an idea. Meaningful opposition to eugenics would entail something new is possible, and the framework of acceptable ideas was designed specifically so that this alternative is never allowed independence or a way to assert demands in the slightest. You are allowed fake rebellion, even fake revolution, but you are not allowed to actually defend yourself, and if you show signs that you will defend yourself regardless of permission, you will be attacked and isolated. The first thing eugenics did was enforce discipline among the classes that would be tasked with the eugenic doctrine, and even if someone was opposed, there are not that many who will throw away their lives for the residuum, especially when many in the residuum are the Judas goats of their race and among the most faithful soldiers for eugenics.
For us, depopulation is encouraged by those who hold the money. You might oppose depopulation, but you're given a story that varies depending on what class you belong to and the interests where you are vulnerable. For the rich and the scientific elite, they style themselves as the rightful stewards of the land in one way or another. For the politicians, they aspire to power in cut-throat competition with each other, in a vain effort to be the leading man or woman in the world. For the workers who are slightly favored, they are told that "they're taking our jobs", as if the jobs were a precious resource to be rationed out. For the lowest classes, the race for crumbs and the celebration of bumfighting is the only life they're told they're allowed to have, and maximum degeneracy is the order of the day. The lumpenized residuum, as mentioned, is seeded with faithful soldiers for eugenics, as many of them are easily influenced and have no principles. If such people are not found organically, trained liars are seeded among the lumpen to goad them into action. This was done to ensure, for example, black gangs would fight each other over the stupidest shit, and drugs would be used as a pretext to heighten the shittiness. If there weren't enough takers among the urban black proles, some asshole in a suit would give the hint and bring some fuckers who are the lowest of the low, and push money around to induce the necessary competition. Eventually, whatever solidarity exists will break, and this was supported by certain white liberals who wanted to see the inner cities turn into cesspits, because that comported with their moral philosophy. Amplifying the death cult from Reagan onward was a new project, and one that could not be done until the time it happened - and make no mistake, the hardliners who imbibe that ideology are basically Satanic and there's no changing them. I've seen people who get into that mindset and it really is beyond the pale. In all cases, men attached to ample pay are tasked with advancing depopulation and given virtually unlimited money to pursue it, while the honest struggle to continue doing anything, because the oligarchs don't want to reward productivity or even sound distribution of the product. The entire point is depopulation, and the economic incentives are set up to reward only that which aids depopulation. That is why the tech sector is boosted - it grants to the oligarchs the machinery it needs to truly suppress a large population, to make the conditions of eugenics fully real and enforceable. This also required time for the eugenic creed to percolate, after a few generations were taught nothing but eugenics and their education was stripped of any historical knowledge of a time before eugenics.
Anyway, capitalism wasn't exactly a planned system that was implemented atop a blank slate. The existence of a middle class was a condition the rulers had to accept, not something they chose. Captialism has been described as a Jewish money making scheme for a reason - the free trade mentality doesn't work towards strengthening the middle class, but encouraging the middle class to fork over their money to stocks, which included the trading companies that really did the work of making capitalism a force in the world. Capitalism isn't premised foundationally on a desire for economic growth. From the start, Malthus wants depopulation and says the poor breed too much, and this is a common aristocratic sentiment. That runs contra to any desire for economic growth. The growth of the system as a whole is less important than what that system does for those who command it. Economic growth was desired only so far as it allowed for industrialization and competition of empires on the world stage. Economic growth was not about making the middle class happier, but because the middle class was invested in these operations, they were going to demand a pay-off for their investment. Some would win, many would lose, and some of the middle class were concerned not with the growth of the system but with ulterior motives. Those who win do not have any solidarity with those who lose, and the same is true within every class.