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 No.471638

Nigeriens being Based at the moment. From what I gather they have a military junta going on atm, and told the French and Americans to go fuck themselves. sounds like leftychan that one time amirite

I hope they get to keep their uranium
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 No.471639

>>471638
Fr*nch on reddit are seething so hard over this it's the funniest shit ever.
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 No.471647

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>>471638
the french are cunts and every nigerian ive ever come across has been a loud asswipe tryhard bitchass, trust me on that. also they really have a hardcore white women fetish on autistic levels. overall pretty satisfied with the situation since theres probably gonna be plenty of retards getting their shit pushed in
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 No.471651

>>471638
>based
Literally the dumbest coup in recent memory. It's also funny that retards like you will cheer on a coup that establishes martial law just because you perceive it to be anti-western.
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 No.471658

>>471651
hopefully something good comes from it.
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 No.471659

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>>471658
hope is for retarded bitches
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 No.471660

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>>471647
holy based bicycle fag got btfod kek

what do you think was gonna happen when your 150 pound ass is on a collision course with 4000 pound car?

Send your complaints to my fucking lawyer kek, the universe already passed its judgement
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 No.471661

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>>471647
>>471660
These are some of the worst, most unproductive posts I've ever seen on an imageboard.

>>471638
What was the regime that got couped doing that you think the regime that couped them will rectify? How do you think that rectification will be enacted?

>>471639
Why are you telling me about something so irrelevant?
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 No.471663

>>471661
>most unproductive
suck on my pee-pee

what are you, my employer?
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 No.471666

>>471638
>Nigeriens being Based at the moment.
It does appear that way.

>From what I gather they have a military junta going on atm

You can engage in cautious optimism, there have been military juntas of this type that drive development of a society forward, but these are very vulnerable to counter-coups. This is not as solid as a revolution by the masses.

>I hope they get to keep their uranium

They should use the Uranium as leverage to make the French and US respect Niger's economic and political autonomy. But they should not resolutely cut off the Frogs from Uranium because it could result in a war that would greatly damage Niger. This is not a big and powerful country, they have to make cautious moves.

>>471661
>These are some of the worst, most unproductive posts I've ever seen on an imageboard.
there def. is worse, but you're right it ain't great either.

>>471661
>What was the regime that got couped doing that you think the regime that couped them will rectify? How do you think that rectification will be enacted?
It's not really clear what's going to happen, but there have been examples of military coups that had decent results, that's why a number of people are being cautiously optimistic.
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 No.471667

>>471666
>but there have been examples of military coups that had decent results
such as?
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 No.471669

>>471667
He has none. These types of people just hate anything democratic or western, so they'll side with a literal military takeover of the government instead of just calling something bad for what it is.
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 No.471680

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>>471667
>>471669
NTA but to name a few off the top of my head…
>China (1911)
>Ottoman (1910s, progressives)
>Venezuela (Chavez)
>Egypt (Nasser)
>Iraq (14 July)
>Ethiopia (Derg)
>Tunisia (republican/baathist)
>Russia (1991)
>Russian Empire (Decemberist)
>England (Cromwell)
>Libya (Gaddafi)
>Portugal (Carnation)
>Bolivia (1936)
>Yugoslavia (1940)
>Bulgaria (1944)
>Afghanistan (pro-soviet secularists)
>Burkina Faso (Sankara)

All of these coups were progressive in nature and often far more radical than the internal opposition within that state's political establishment at the time. They were objectively a force for good is what I am saying.
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 No.471681

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>>471667
Recent coups that might lead to developmental progress and more political and economic sovereignty could be the ones in Burkina Faso and Mali.

>>471669
You can't say with a straight face that Western foreign policy spreads democracy, so many democratically elected leaders have been deposed and murdered in the name of "freedom and democracy". Like for example Patrice Lumumba in Congo that was dissolved in acid, or Thomas Sankara the socialist leader of Burkina Faso in the 80s that was shot.

The overall context here is that the imperial ruling class in the west wants to maintain or re-assert Neo-colonial domination over these countries. There is a rationally self interested reason to oppose this, because this will be very costly, and it will come at the expense of the working class in the imperial core. Of course the people in those other countries also get the short end of the stick too. The only benefactors here are a narrow slice of haute-bourgeoisie usually like imperial finance capital and their lackeys.

For the case in Niger, French workers do benefit from the cheap electricity that can be made from cheap niger-uranium. However if you tabulate all the economic odds and ends the conclusion is that, France having trade with Niger on equal terms instead of neo-colonial terms is more beneficial for the workers.

Mutually beneficial bilateral trade on equal terms between countries leads to mutual economical development that increases demand on labor-power which increases the leverage for workers in both countries. While the neo-colonial relations causes super-exploitation in the neo-colonized country and the workers in the imperial country loose economic leverage because they have to compete with the low wages of the super-exploited workers in the neo-colonized country. It also causes economic stagnation because when the wages of workers are depressed, there is less incentive to invest in productivity enhancing technology.

The solution to the Niger crisis, is that France accepts that it has to pay like 5% to 10% more Euros for Niger-Uranium and other Niger resources, but if they package it in a trade deal where Niger spends those Euros on French goods and services that help Niger develop economically. Then it becomes an exchange where France gets resources and Niger get advanced French means of economic development. The medium sized capitalists and the workers in both countries will benefit from this. The big bourgeoisie in France will not.

One has to note that the alternative to mutual-trade on equal terms, that i proposed here isn't necessarily that the big bourgeoisie in France gets it's neo-colonial designs. This could fail, and if they attempt to start a war, China will get the opportunity to do one of their Ninja peace initiatives. (like the one that broke the alliance between the US and Saudi Arabia).

One of the other big stakes is the US's massive drone base in Niger (Air Base 201). That one will go poof in a failed neo-colonial war. And then Chinese SOE bulldozers will come and turn it into a industrial park + commercial freight airport.
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 No.471687

>>471681
>You can't say with a straight face that Western foreign policy spreads democracy
Thank god that I didn't say that, retard. Wrong dialogue tree, you stupid faggot.
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 No.471690

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>>471661
>These are some of the worst, most unproductive posts I've ever seen on an imageboard.
newfag lol. "unproductive" is pretty lulzy this is an imageboard, bitch. pretty much gave decent description of the average nigerian to warn anons to beware.
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 No.471800

>>471651
Is it not actually anti-western? Because it sounds like it is. Change is usually good in these situations, don't be such a lib.
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 No.471801

>>471669
>democratic or western
There's never any overlap there. If you think the west is democratic somehow then you must be smoking rocks.
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 No.471853

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https://gowans.blog/2023/08/08/swapping-france-for-russia-in-niger-and-lenin-for-putin-in-edmonton/
Swapping France for Russia in Niger and Lenin for Putin in Edmonton
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 No.471859

>>471801
i must be smoking cocks
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 No.471902

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China is drowning and the world is deaf and dumb. The big giant cannot save its own people or rescue the inhabitants of its capital who are displaced by millions and victims by thousands . Where is the glory of China and where is the Silk Road and the bright and sunny future promised by China so that every underdeveloped country dreamt of becoming China by relying on China ? Now, the dream had evaporated or has drowned and melted in the waters of the Typhoon that the country has never witnessed before .

As for Russia it is becoming obvious what role it will play in the future as a destabilizer of countries and societies . And Putin’s visit to Africa is bearing fruit right now and the Syrian and Ukrainian models will be generalized to Africa where destruction and war have already started in Sudan and extended to other places. In Niger right now the coupists are challenging the threats of invasion and attack on behalf of the ECOWAS and raising the Russian flag together with the national flag . Russia is given in Africa the opportunity to cause further destabilization and to infiltrate Africa and be on the side of the Natives in their struggle against colonialism . A struggle in partnership and cooperation with Russia that will never be resolved, and will extend endlessly like what is happening in Syria that today suffered an israeli strike in the vicinity of Damascus that took the lives of 4 Syrian soldiers and injured others . These strikes like others are Russian coordinated and causing destruction and victims whereby Syria cannot transgress a certain Russian ceiling in responding or retaliating to these attacks which allows israel further transgressions . Russia is candidate to full partnership with world powers whose scheme of destruction of countries and genocide of people Russia is starting to fulfil in Africa after Ukraine.
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 No.471905

>>471902
>the Syrian model
You mean the one where the CIA engaged in the most expensive covert war in its history to foment civil war and overthrow a government that was keeping its resources out of US hands and then Russia came in to stabilize the government? That model?
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 No.471936

>>471905
>Russia came in to stabilize the government
which R*shia has invested too fucking much into to let it loose. Gotta love that bitch boy ASSad who's privatizing & selling everything he can just like mr. pooteen does for all of his presidency.
Fuck R*shian Empire 2.0: Nuclear Boogaloo.
All my homies hate R*shian Empire 2.0: Nuclear Boogaloo.
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 No.471939

>>471936
>Gotta love that bitch boy ASSad who's privatizing & selling everything he can just like mr. pooteen does for all of his presidency.
Source?
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 No.471950

>>471939
I'm not that anon, but there is indeed a story about the Syrian government shrinking because they have trouble paying decent salaries to public-sector employees. Tho it's not a verified story.
https://syrianobserver.com/news/83959/regime-is-facing-job-losses-due-to-privatization.html

If this story checks out, I think it would be very dishonest to construe this as Assad doing privatization for ideological reasons. People allegedly quit the public sector because it doesn't pay enough to live. Syria is having economic trouble because it's under economic-war sanctions.

I think the original plan was the Belt and Road project was supposed to get connected to Syria and that would help get them back on their feet. Not sure what the hold up is. The US still has a military presence in Syria maybe that's the cause.
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 No.471997

>>471939
>>471950
<Within a few years, Assad did make reforms — the kind that warmed the cockles of international bankers’ hearts. He “liberalized” the economy by selling off some state enterprises. He allowed businessmen to start up corporations such as cell phone companies that would have been state-owned in the past. Assad cleverly raised the hopes of Western powers that their businesspeople might benefit from the privatization. US and European officials deferred their criticisms of Syria. But it soon became clear that the privatization mainly benefitted Assad family cronies.
<Rami Makhlouf, an Assad cousin, is reportedly the richest man in Syria, worth an estimated $5 billion. He owns a variety of businesses, including tourist hotels, duty-free shops, and luxury department stores.[23] He became infamous for his role as owner of cell phone giant Syriatel. The company grew to control 55 percent of the Syrian market. In the early months of the 2011 uprising, regime opponents accused Makhlouf of financing pro-Assad demonstrations. They later learned that Syriatel was cooperating with the regime to tap activists’ phones. Demonstrators burned Syriatel posters and stomped on SIM cards in protest.[24]
<Some Syrians benefited from the crony capitalism as wealth trickled down to ordinary people. They could buy cell phones and later got connected to the Internet, albeit with close government monitoring of social media. But trickle-down wasn't enough. Most Syrians were angry at the poor state of the economy.

<Long before the uprising, on one sultry evening in Damascus, I met Hamad standing with a gaggle of friends in front of a café. Like many Syrians critical of the government, he declined to use his last name. At age twenty-two, he remained in school to avoid military conscription.

<Hamad told me it was “extremely difficult” to find work. “Most of my friends are not working, and those who are working receive a very low salary. The people who have jobs have connections.”[25]
<Hamad's comments were borne out in the economic statistics. In the 2000s, unemployment went as high as 20 percent and the poverty rate hit 44 percent.26 I interviewed many young people who were victims of Assad's economic policies. Ayman Abdel Nour, a reform-minded Syrian economist, warned me that unemployed youths posed a big problem for the government. “It's a very dangerous situation,” he said. Government officials made “some plans to overcome this problem, like launching a program to overcome unemployment and financing small and medium enterprises. They are trying, but it's all on paper.”[27]


I also remember an interview with some motherfuckin trots trying to stir up class consciousness over there by participating in battles against the *ssad gubbmint. I've learned about their existence while reading some obscure blog of a Rojava radfem interbrigade-ish fighter where she mentioned with grief that the leader of that trot brigade was killed in fighting while being only 24 years old.

& the first shocking thing these guys had to deal with is the fact that ASSads' "socialist" gubbmint have, & still continue to persistently terrorize the local populace to such a degree that these trots had to hide the entirety of their political adherence & appear as just some vague "good guys for the simple good good" to not be fucking lynched by the locals.
<Muad and his friends joined the local coordination committees and started to recruit people into their group. “We couldn’t say we were communists, we couldn’t even utter the word ‘socialism’ because among the Syrians it had become a bad word. Assad’s Ba’ath party claimed to be socialist. They saw so-called socialists torturing and killing people,” he told me. So the Brigade put words aside and decided to demonstrate their commitment to the people with their actions. They would live among the people, working in factories and construction sites in the city, making friends and helping their neighbors until the day they could talk about Marx and Lenin and be listened to.
https://thebaffler.com/latest/revolutionaries-for-hire-salvia (just one of the issues about them)


I also just found out about *ssad inviting fucking white supremacists, banned greek fascists & other similar socialists for giving speeches even before the civil meatgrinder started. I don't even know if \lebtyboll\ must be considered a petit imperialist propaganda project from the start due to the sheer amount of sucking this bastard off barring any kind of criticism towards this ultra-reactionary "socialist" neolibbiefuck.
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 No.472001

>>471997
>I also just found out about *ssad inviting fucking white supremacists, banned greek fascists & other similar socialists for giving speeches

"other similar socialists" ? Are you trying to conflate fascism with socialism ? usually that kind of ideological BS comes from the Neo-liberal extremism corner.

Anyway, assuming you didn't just make shit up, I wouldn't put much weight on the Syrian governments choices of guest-speakers, they probably had no other criteria besides: invite westerners that speak out against regime-change operations in Syria. It's also very unlikely that Syrians understand western political positions.

>I don't even know if \lebtyboll\ must be considered a petit imperialist propaganda project


Most anti-imperialist leftists lend critical support to Countries like Syria and heads of state like Bashar al-Assad because they don't want to be pseudo-leftist useful idiots for imperialism. There's basically no more political room to criticize the countries that are on the imperial regime-change list. Every criticism of Syria you can make, regardless how justified and correct it is, will be co-opted by the consent manufacturing machine.

Unless you can find away to short circuit the imperial consent manufacturing machine, there is not much use for this. To Syrians you'll never be more than an outsider attempting to meddle in their internal politics. As a westerner you're better off criticizing western governments. I get it this is much harder, because the system always tries to redirect critical voices towards criticizing external stuff. It's ass ineffective for you to criticize the Syrian government, as it is for Syrians to criticize the western governments.

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