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>I suggest a different, even darker solution to Fermi's Paradox. Basically, I think the aliens don't blow themselves up; they just get addicted to computer games. They forget to send radio signals or colonize space because they're too busy with runaway consumerism and virtual-reality narcissism. They don't need Sentinels to enslave them in a Matrix; they do it to themselves, just as we are doing today.

>The fundamental problem is that any evolved mind must pay attention to indirect cues of biological fitness, rather than tracking fitness itself. We don't seek reproductive success directly; we seek tasty foods that tended to promote survival and luscious mates who tended to produce bright, healthy babies. Modern results: fast food and pornography. Technology is fairly good at controlling external reality to promote our real biological fitness, but it's even better at delivering fake fitness — subjective cues of survival and reproduction, without the real-world effects. Fresh organic fruit juice costs so much more than nutrition-free soda. Having real friends is so much more effort than watching Friends on TV. Actually colonizing the galaxy would be so much harder than pretending to have done it when filming Star Wars or Serenity.



If this is your way to make social commentary: A+

But if you want to solve the Fermi paradox, via a big filter hypothesis, that stops civilization from exploring the universe, you have to explain why this affects every single species. Because it just takes one species and roughly 10K years to conquer the hole galaxy with technology we could already build.

In my humble opinion the only reason why we're not getting alien signals is because advanced alien species found something better to send information than radio waves.

The ISS got outfitted with it's first communication laser in 2014. If all the Aliens laser-phone with each other, you're not going to notice it unless you're crossing one of their beams. They might have something even better than lasers. There are already scientists that are attempting to use Neutrino based communication. The military is funding this because that would make communication with submarines a lot easier.

Anyway I wouldn't be too harsh on sci-fi entertainment, to a significant extend this is people trying to popularize the idea that it's possible to go to space. If you invent the tech that will make it possible to kick off large scale space exploration, there will not be much cultural objection to it, because people watched enough scifi to normalize the idea. Go back in history when air-planes got invented, there was considerable resistance by people who thought that humans lacking wings simply weren't meant to fly and actively tried to stop it. That shit happens a lot less these days.

I guess you can perhaps complain that there is too much science fantasy where technology is just magic, and that doesn't really serve as points of entry for people going into space-tech. But this entertainment could also serve as a bridge to education. Make a sci-fi video game where it's possible to seamlessly move from the fiction part to the science part simply by digging deeper into the game. Get people interested with brain-candy and then gradually bait-and switch them over to a technical education without them noticing.

I also want to point out that if you're on a space-ship crossing the vast darkness of space, all that distraction technology might come in handy to keep you from loosing your shit, because it prevents you from staring into the abyss.


Retard, fermi paradox isiabout them being undetectable, not just staying on their home planet. He doesn't even grasp how consumerism works or forms.


>fermi paradox isiabout them being undetectable, not just staying on their home planet
You are correct but don't bee too harsh on OP, there is considerable overlap between undetectable and non-space-faring


>He doesn't even grasp how consumerism works or forms

Can you give me a quick rundown? Is this about commodity fetishism?


>Because it just takes one species and roughly 10K years to conquer the hole galaxy with technology we could already build.
Even at the speed of light with a species arising on a planet in the galactic center, no. The diameter of the Milky Way is something like 87,000 light-years.


Yeah sorry, brain fart
It's 10 million years to colonize the galaxy with 1% light speed ships and the assumption that your colonization effort only moves for about half the time, while the other half is spend building up solar systems along the way.



>Is this about commodity fetishism?
Well that's at the core of it yeah. Like it's a broad thing that I'd have a hard time bundling into a quick run down but generally it all revolves that.
Like for example, things like games can be made as genuine enrichment and be beneficial, just like music and other forms of art, but the economics around it creates games that are like opium and waste time by design. The economics around it makes the food poisonous, or in such abundance it becomes so, ect…

I agree that capitalism is quite likely be what's game-overing all the aliens, but hyper-focusing on the results of consumerism rather than it's cause (capitalism) is a weird underscope that seems to be trying to dodge the capitalism question.

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