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 No.491193

Why has so much of the left recently become such fucking puritanical pro-Copyright fags to an absolutely insane level?
From the Anti-AI movement pushing that anybody using AI is "stealing" from fucking slop artists on deviantart, to people whining about "plagerism" because someone has a similar thought to them and they weren't credited. What the fuck is going on?
You have leftists cheering on bills to literally EXPAND COPYRIGHT and IP restrictions. It's fucking bonkers.
I've been arguing with leftists recently who are saying by using AI, I'm "stealing" from creative artisans… and? How is this different from me streaming a show from a non-official streaming site, or pirating a game? Why should I care? What is wrong about democratising the creation of art, or even commodities? Should leftists celebrate the driving of value to 0?
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 No.491194

A few things:

Firstly, you're an adult. Not everyone you see saying a certain thing represents a monolithic "left."

Secondly, the premise here isn't really correct. The idea that opposition to ""AI"" is purely about defending copyright is inaccurate, and the idea that there even is any meaningful opposition to copyright in general is false. IP isn't on the verge of going away, in fact it's pretty much more enforced than ever, and the people who deal in IP for a living are not under threat; but those people are not artists, they are patent lawyers, large corporations, etc. The idea that ""AI"" is a threat to this model at all is delusional; ""AI"" art is simply allowing the same entities which already are the primary beneficiaries of IP law to make even more money off of other people's creative labor than they already do, whether or not those who they profit off of are making a profit themselves. There is no meaningful opposition to IP from the corporations pushing these overhyped programs, they merely want artists to unilaterally waive rights which they themselves categorically refuse to waive, so that the corporate powers can take an even larger cut of the profit.
If you look at this critically, and don't just take the marketing as the final word, this is very clear.

There is no "democratizing" at play here, for the same reason that "right to work laws" don't "democratize" the labor force. This is a consolidation of even more monopolistic control in the hands of rentseeking "tech" elites.

I say all of this, and still I'll add a third thing; I'll elaborate on the real repulsion to ""AI"" a bit as it relates to me, because although I've explained how things are in relation to other people, I'd like to add that I do have my own concern and disregard. Art, whatever you might personally think about it, is expression. It doesn't matter what you specifically think of someone else's art, it doesn't matter what motivation they had to create it, there is both expression and discipline involved in the creation of art. Outsourcing it to lines of code sold by Sam Altman seems like a grotesque failure to embrace what is joyful about the human soul; it is not hard labor, it is not dull paperwork, it is expression, and I would rather see a poorly produced stick figure made by a real human being than a "fancy" corporate synthesis of what "professional" art is supposed to look like in order to appeal to humans. Every critique anyone ever had of dull corporate art created for advertising applies doubly here, as the human is factored out to the fullest possible extent, a degree of alienation from humanness which was once impossible.

Instead of taking some dull or painful necessary labor, automating it, and socializing the profit, "tech" capitalists have, through trade in others' labor, taken something fun and expressive, created an automated facsimile of it to spare users the joy of expression, and taken the profits wholly for themselves. You will express yourself within their confines, you will see and hear what they want you to see and hear, your soul is theirs and they will charge you rent for your own conception of self. That's very sad to me.
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 No.491195

Cool story OP, have you stopped beating your wife yet? It's trivial to extend Marx's critique of capital to intellectual property laws, whoever you're dealing with is not "the left".
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 No.491199

There is no organized left-wing in America, and you're just referring to tumblerinas who migrated into politics but retained their shitty intereste in furry/anime small business shit.

Also there's a growing reflexive dismissal of progressiveness in general among those you call left-wing, opposing nearly any popular technical progress

I agree the anti-recent-AI people are deranged. This new technology can easily displace half our current jobs and give more time for leisure and healthier pursuits.
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 No.491232

because the left is constantly infiltrated at every level and sabotaged to take self-defeating political lines
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 No.491242

>>491199
>I agree the anti-recent-AI people are deranged. This new technology can easily displace half our current jobs and give more time for leisure and healthier pursuits.

And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.

>>491194
>Firstly, you're an adult. Not everyone you see saying a certain thing represents a monolithic "left."

What does being an adult have to do with this?
Also leftism died in the 1970s in the west

>Art, whatever you might personally think about it, is expression. It doesn't matter what you specifically think of someone else's art, it doesn't matter what motivation they had to create it, there is both expression and discipline involved in the creation of art. Outsourcing it to lines of code sold by Sam Altman seems like a grotesque failure to embrace what is joyful about the human soul; it is not hard labor, it is not dull paperwork, it is expression, and I would rather see a poorly produced stick figure made by a real human being than a "fancy" corporate synthesis of what "professional" art is supposed to look like in order to appeal to humans. Every critique anyone ever had of dull corporate art created for advertising applies doubly here, as the human is factored out to the fullest possible extent, a degree of alienation from humanness which was once impossible.


People are saying this now just because of some machine learning algorithm but before then, people were complaining about PhotoShop “removing humanness” or even digitally made manual art.

Also you saying you’d rather have a stick figure drawn by humans rather than a “line of code” is typical virtue signaling because you are the same folks who shit on DeviantArt posts for not being “eloquent“ enough.
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 No.491252

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>>491193
>uyghur just found out that the entire foundation of leftism is about horizontal distribution of capital and nothing else (national socialism). Watch and laugh.
Remind me who were the worst enemies of communists in russia and germany. No the monarchists only had 2% of representation, look further fucking retard.

>>491194
Get proled, artisoid. What a load of idealistic wankery you've just generated I wonder if it could be optimized in its production.
Fucking soul in sharting out one media piece for massa after another for years! Soul! Do not fret my little uyghur, picking up cotton is not a mechanistic process but an art unto itself! Blaqq qreativity! Take that you whitey!

>>491242
>And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.
Guess how profit is made! Fucking retard.
>Also leftism died in
Leftism, being an inalienable part of capital (it's in the fucking name you retard!) will only die along with private property when there would be no ownership to stretch along the masses to make them participants in the process of exploitation of labor up to imperialism proper. Dying leftism is a sign of societal fabric ripping into contradictive classes, when the ruling bourgs find themselves in a systemic crisis which forces them to strip everything off and throw it into the oven of profit despite the hitleritian screechings of the genetically enhanced free and democratic unterbourgeoisie finding itself in the trashbin of exploitation they spat into their entire rational and educated upstanding mittelklassoid lives.
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 No.491261

>>491242
>And yet with AI, there’s seems to be MORE work to be done, not less.

You're using it wrong then. And in a few years it won't even require being that strategic in what you feed it or how you prompt it.

The whole definition of AI is replacing human capabilities. If there's "more work" after than then it's just make-work.

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