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 No.493997

The secession of the kneegrows owner was the best thing to happen in North America. It separated the wheat from he chaff. Our guys should have opposed the war and when it started supported the South to make the war last as long as possible.
The Confederacy actually won when it was reabsorbed. The United States is an imposter.
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 No.494007

Nah.
Lincoln was essentially trying to catch the momentum of a simultaneous real revolution (the revolution of the slaves and abolitionists) up into the US conflict with the secessionists. The Lincoln faction weren't absolute good guys per se, but there would be absolutely no reason to root for the Confederacy, and Lincoln himself was a positive historical actor which is why he was ultimately assassinated by a long-time friend of his close acquaintance Simon Wolf, and replaced by people who made more and more capitulations to the former slave-holding class.

Simon Wolf was actually arrested at one point by Union forces under the suspicion that, through B'Nai B'Rith, Wolf had been engaging in treason and aiding the Confederacy. Simon Wolf's Masonic lodge also pledged loyalty to Albert Pike, a confederate general and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction.

The Confederacy actually could have won militarily, which would have been the worst possible outcome. At multiple times during the war, they had the upper hand. Supporting them would have been an extremely bad idea.
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 No.494029

>>493997
>The Confederacy actually could have won militarily
That seemed true at the time but they could have only won their independence, realistically. More than that would have been too much to swallow and lead to more explosive contradictions.
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 No.494031

>>494029
Them winning independence would have been a win for them, which would be bad. Lincoln would still probably get assassinated, and the success of the secession would mean a massive, militarized expansionist chattel slave state to the south of the US whose influence would likely be greater than that of the defeated south. The betrayal of the Union victory after the war ultimately came from capitulations by Lincoln's successors, which would probably still have happened even if the north lost, it would just be in an even worse position.

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