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 No.494400

Hey, I'm a guest here. Why do leftists believe that sex is morally good and that sex-positivity is nessesary?

I'm currently writing a paper of sorts and I need to know the perspective of the sex-positive.

I'm not looking for pretentious sources that try to overcomplicate themselves to make the author look smsrt. I just need a good explanation of the whole thing.

What do most people here agree is a valid reason to push sex-positivity on society itself?

And what do sex-positivists think of leftist puritism?
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 No.494401

>>494400
>Why do leftists believe that sex is morally good and that sex-positivity is nessesary?
Political economy says very little about sex, even though it says a lot about other kinds of social relationships in our society. It's more focused on the social relationships that lead to the material output that is necessary to reproduce society.

You're right to note that there is a brand of leftists who either make sex the main focus of their struggle or at least make it a big part of it.

While these people seem to be the majority of what people consider 'the left' in western countries, I think they have yet to demonstrate themselves to be effective leftists. Every real historical communist movement was conservative by their standards.

Individual grievances we are faced with under capitalism don't manifest themselves under socialism, therefore there isn't a need to focus on many of them.

Identity politics, and therefore discussion about sex, gender, trans issues etc, is a topic that the ruling class would rather you focus on than class issues. You can create more and more categories that you are part of until you are a lone individual in your own set with your own labels. This makes you much easier to fight than if the working class self-actualized as a class and worked together along class lines.

Sex, gooner shit, troon shit, pornography etc is pushed onto people by the ruling class, and injected into every circle of marxists precisely for the same reason that discussion about race is pushed as an alternative to class politics, we've seen an upswing of this during Occupy Wall Street.

Personally I think these issues have no place in a marxist organization that's focused on revolutionary class struggle, as they have yet to prove themselves as furthering the struggle, but make the left intollerable to the conservative working class of america, who will, like you OP, associate the left with being focused on sexuality.
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 No.494402

I wouldn't know, I'm trying to do communism over here.
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 No.494404

>>494400
>Why do leftists believe that sex is morally good and that sex-positivity is necessary?
Some do, some don't.

I couldn't tell you about the "dos." Personally, I'm a sex negativist. Or really a sex neutralist, I just am indifferent. Having any hard line about sex is generally kind of dumb - I think the best argument for "sex positivity" in the loosest sense, IE simple sex objectivity where it isn't treated as scary or taboo, is that you could theoretically end up with a society which maybe just sees sex as normal and boring and not something to base an entire morality around.
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 No.494408

>>494404
>I couldn't tell you about the "dos."
What does "dos." mean?
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 No.494415

You can have sex after you've won something.
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 No.494418

OP, are you ok?
Why are people so morally obsessed with sex and sexuality?
Leftists don't view sex as good. They call anything sexual as "predatory"
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 No.494419

>>494401
>Sex, gooner shit, troon shit, pornography etc is pushed onto people by the ruling class,

This is popular anti-sec sentiment pushed by people.
iMO, there's nothing wrong with sex and porn. People just wanna politicize things that should not be.

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