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 No.495618

I am progressive myself (I even occasionally skim through /lgbt/) but this body positivity thing is not only #woke but genuinely harmful imho. I don't want fat people to be bullied and a little chubbiness is fine (but JoJo physique is the only way towards socialism) but encouraging people not to work on their bodies will only lead to the worsening of their health. Like, we all hear about how huge jugs are bad for a woman's back. But at least women with huge jugs can go to gym to compensate this. These feminists accept themselves as they are AND refuse to work out. That's kinda suicidal if you ask me. This refusal to work out will lead to:
>difficult in breathing
>bone problems
>heart problems
>and many others
Even sumo wrestlers train their muscles.
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 No.495619

>>495618
>JoJo physique
JoJo Siwa?
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 No.495620

>>495619
>JoJo Siwa?
OHNONONONONONO WAITWAITWAITWAITWAIT!!
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 No.495621

>>495618
Agreed
I never understood why fat shaming was seen as bad i mean yeah dont bully the poor person for it but we need to call it out.
Unless the person is fat due to medical substances or has acne because of it we should say something. Acne is another one of those things where if you are not at the age of puberty where it is common or it is substance induced then you are a dirty fag! Wash your face!!!
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 No.495623

>>495621
I've washed my face (properly) daily and would still get acne at 25 and up. It took topical antibiotics to clean them up.

Pseuds need to stfu
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 No.495624

>>495618
I have never met anyone who disagrees with this. Firstie btw. Are you hanging around tumblr 24/7 or what?
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 No.495638

>>495624
>Are you hanging around tumblr 24/7 or what?
No. I just never understood that position ever since it became widespread online and in corporate advertizing.
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 No.495735

Body Positivity died when Ozempic was normalized
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 No.495737

>>495735
Proofs?
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 No.495766

Being fat seems like a uniquely American problem (and I'm including Mexico and Canada into this). My guess is everything is the car industry made everyone so reliant on cars that people have to commit to exercising instead of it happening naturally during your commute, the food industry industry either has deals with the chemical/petrochemical industry to put random shit in their food, or this is straight up cheaper than actually growing ingredients. And finally the pharmaceutical industry has an interest in deregulating everything and making people unhealthy so they can profit too. Did I miss anything?
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 No.495775

I think we should fight against consumerism in general, not against its weak-willed victims
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 No.495779

body positivity is a psyop by big soda
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 No.495784

>>495766
Also being lazy and watching TV all day.
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 No.495789

>>495623
Tea tree oil is underrated as a topical ointment for any minor skin issues that otherwise would be persistent. I just want to put that out there, I'm not saying it would have helped your specific case.
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 No.495796

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>>495775
It's not about fighting fat people, it's about fighting the rhetoric.
>big soda
I'LL HAVE TWO NUMBER NINES!! A NUMBER NINE LARGE!!
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 No.495803

body neutrality is the far superior movement.
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 No.497165

Body positivity is mainly catered towards women
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 No.497257

it's mostly ragebait tendencies about "not working out". many people who i saw usually root for accepting chubbiness and etc. as for men - nobody cares about men looks.

just look outside and look at people who are around you, not celeb magazines with ozempic.

we all shall understand poor people and people with mental/physical issues. don't harass people with less discipline, give them good info sources how to eat better. companies hunt on these people and sell weekly dose of sugar in a cup.

idk op… its just ragebait. nobody is saying that physical activity is bad. these is some individuals that are radically accepting their own obese bodies (in almost narcissistic way) and we can't do anything about it.
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 No.497258

america is falling to fast food and high sugar intake, every 3rd american i know has diabetes or something similiar to it. many companies put weird additives that fuck up hormonal balance and affect children. high sugars. ultra processed food. it's all the fault. also no walking spaces at all! embrace olive oil and long walks
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 No.497259

body positivity was born as movement to fight for women's freedom of body, since many girls starve themselves or harm due to being overweight or "overweight". female beauty standards are so much stricter for men.

it NOT supposed to be a movement for justification of self destruction!
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 No.497262

>>497257
You’re wrong on the last sentence. Mens looks are morally counted. It’s just that they’re not expected to be adored like women. Fat, ugly, or lanky men are commonly mocked as a blasphemy to masculinity


>>497259
beauty standards for men are also strict but men aren’t sympathized as much in that department. Men are expected to be muscley and handsome.
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 No.497263

>>497258
What’s especially sad is that the only form of exercise that’s promoted or rather the only convenience is gyms or ball courts
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 No.497264

>>497263

ah yes you're right! we all shouldn't remember about small stuff - walking, even warmups at home, everyday exercises…
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 No.497265

>>497262

they are not adored as women yes i agree. men don't have a huge variety of beauty services - usually it's gym and "please shower at least once in a week". being "too pretty" is considered faggy (i don't agree)

men are indeed shamed for being thin or "weak" or not masculine, being feminine, but DUH nobody really cares if their wrist aren't wide enough (only incels do) or whatever bone stuff they have novadays???
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 No.497266

>>497262

being fat and lunky can be a woman too, but noone is gonna shame a guy for having stretch marks, unshaven legs/ass/armpits, wide shoulders. (EVEN THOUGH men are shamed for height, physical appearance, amount of facial hair and masculinity!!! i absolutely should admit that. also cock size. everyone is obsessed about cock sizes… sad. no one is obsessed over my pussy deepth)

female beauty industry is THRIVING on selling women creams for eternal young look, anti aging serums. even little girls are using skincare as their moms. infinity of different beauty procedures with different affects to your body - botox and fillers. fashion shows usually have women as models. ozempic went sold out when it came. the amount of money made in beauty industry is INSANE.

even in this image board we can see a thread where men discuss girls' looks, that they are "mid" when they are actually quite pretty and skinny, calling them whores and "ruined" for having tattoos. (which hurt my heart)

i can say i wasn't right when i said "no one cares about men's looks". people do care, but there not so much pressure into it? they have different standards from us, for sure. there is valued strength, size, masculinity, which are maintained by exercise and different beauty practices (not makeup
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 No.497267

>>497262

i think men aren't sympathized in this medium because women started this movement , methinks… also they are less vocal about it? they just fall down the incel rabbit hole instead of trying to prove that being out of standard is ok?

i didn't think deep about this responce, open to critique
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 No.497268

>>497262
im sorry if my posts are cancerous or smth…. im ready to hear out
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 No.497270

>>497266
> being fat and lunky can be a woman too, but noone is gonna shame a guy for having stretch marks, unshaven legs/ass/armpits, wide shoulders

Actually they are. Men are mocked for excuses hairiness. Told they look scraggly or like a predator.
And yes they’re mocked for having love handles, although not the same way women are.
It’s more that men are expected to be ugly for laughingstock.
Women are not expected to be ugly but are laughingstock if they are.

>>497264
Tbh I think ballsports are toxic. The social aspect of it that is.
The physical aspect is just boring.
Imagine wasting youthful energy on chasing a ball in a small field

That could be spent on swimming or biking or rock climbing
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 No.497271

>>497267
It’s more that men aren’t allowed to sympathy for aesthetic flaws. Men are told to get over themselves.
Men are socially assigned to be jesters (comedians) or warriors (bodybuilders or soldiers).

Men have self image issues too but they’re not allowed desire beauty for themselves.
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 No.497272

>>497266
>female beauty industry is THRIVING on selling women creams for eternal young look, anti aging serums. even little girls are using skincare as their moms. infinity of different beauty procedures with different affects to your body - botox and fillers. fashion shows usually have women as models. ozempic went sold out when it came. the amount of money made in beauty industry is INSANE.


Men are subject to this too. Also it’s natural for girls to want to try out make up anyway.

> even in this image board we can see a thread where men discuss girls' looks, that they are "mid" when they are actually quite pretty and skinny, calling them whores and "ruined" for having tattoos. (which hurt my heart)

Men are also denigrated for having tattoos. Women refer to tattooed men as rapists/horndogs/idiots.

And women also rank men based on looks as well, calling them mid or ugly.
As a boy, I’ve been witness to how vitriolic girls can be about judging mens looks and wit.

They often mock boys for wearing colorful flashy shirts, they call them faggy for being lean, they call them creeps for being chubby and wearing glasses.

Girls are not the only victims of lookism.

> i can say i wasn't right when i said "no one cares about men's looks". people do care, but there not so much pressure into it? they have different standards from us, for sure. there is valued strength, size, masculinity, which are maintained by exercise and different beauty practices (not makeup

If men aren’t pressured to maintain good looks, why is then that young men are constantly accused of being “less than men” for having any ounce of nuance in their hair style?

Why are they mocked as low T for being skinny or lean? Or having long hair?

Exercise alone doesn’t give you buff muscles.

Nor does it give you a buff chin.
Men who lack sharp facial features are pathologized as infantile.

Masculinity is often reduced to having gaunt and hairy features.
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 No.497273

>>497266
> even in this image board we can see a thread where men discuss girls' looks, that they are "mid" when they are actually quite pretty and skinny, calling them whores and "ruined" for having tattoos. (which hurt my heart)

I wouldn’t trust this imageboard for mens preferences because sits mainly just bitter virtue signallers who wanna vent their sexual frustration for being invisible to women

Most men are more flexible in their aesthetic preferences.

The problem is, men are pathologized for having a diverse palette of turn-ons
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 No.497278

>>497258
High fructose corn syrup. When they added it to "new" coke and pepsi we didn't have an obesity epidemic. Through the '80s and '90s they started putting it everything as opposed to cane sugar. Now US soda has 44g a can.
>>497273
I have a feeling most men don't have really high standards, just that fat is unhealthy and a turnoff where genetic selection is conserned. Other than that, who hasn't checked out a homeless chick that doesn't look too bad and thought "I bet she'd clean up pretty nice"?
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 No.497281

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>>497270

i see. i get you. it's true, i have seen nasty comments online about hairy men(usually people called them monkeys). i happy that many women enjoy hairy men and it's based. i can't imagine bullying a man over this, honestly. it's very pretty.

i'm complaining about shaving mostly because it hits close home - my mom always nags me and shames me for not shaving my legs. my fiends do that sometimes. i'm too lazy for that shit, ok? i'm not standing in shower for 40 minutes every 3 days

>ball sports

man ok i see you have a trauma and i hate ball too but it's not the worst thing in the world 😭 i personally hate every sport, and every movement game. i suck at them.

picture is to make you feel better
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 No.497282

>>497271

true. men are usually seen as stoic and emotionless, when they are human and can cry and feel and desire, think. many people omit that. whole culture around men is about being "strong" which is toxic and often overseen
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 No.497284

>>497271

i would be very very happy if more men chosen beauty and stuff because after sharing home with some men i have "ptsd" from the smell and dirty dishes in the sink :( sorry it's true
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 No.497285

>>497272

men are subjected but they aren't the targeted audience. (even though men get hate for being a faggot wheb they try to be prettier by cosmetics…)

>As a boy, I’ve been witness to how vitriolic girls can be about judging mens looks and wit

i'm sorry you had to witness that. please leave these circles of women because it's not normal to be so salty about guys looks. i understand saying shit about colorful clothing as a joke and irony between friends but UNironically? wild. i feel disgusted. i hope these girls get appropriate treatment for that. nasty. please don't associate yourself with these people, its not normal.

you're right especially about "chubby guy with glasses" since it's a widely knows stereotype for a freak/predator/stalker in media. these aren't bad people and we should be more considerate. thank you for pointing this out. you're right, not only women are victims of lookism. ugly men are treated as lulz source…
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 No.497286

>>497272

>“less than men” for having any ounce of nuance in their hair style?
>Why are they mocked as low T for being skinny or lean? Or having long hair?

i swear. I SWEAR only fxukin incels care about it. like, i literally have seen no one saying that but incels. i swear! nobody fucking bothers about hairstyle. idk don't shave a swastika on your head or don't wear a monk hair. some people complain and mock men for being bald or balding and it's sad. my brother is morbidly obese and he doesn't care about anything and he think he is perfect. no normal person will call you "low on T" or "lesser than a man" for having long hair or being lean??? idk log off that dumbass idiot forum where you're getting all that info. look at other men. think about how they look and you will understand that these standards are some u really bullshit

(side note: some people may call you girly for having long hair but these are conservatives)
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 No.497287

>>497272

ofc for exercise to work you have to eat and sleep good, yes

>Men who lack sharp facial features are pathologized as infantile. + sports don't give you sharp jawline

UGHHHHHH i can disagree. with losing weight (is that's the case) features can sharpen. i still think taht you can perfectly play around unsharp features with hairstyles and etc but i really cant be a professor here. some features can't be played around i think and then surgery comes or self acceptance

im sorry taht you got into these circles. honestly nobody fucking cares. i may be too offline to say someone unironically "you're low T" or whatever bs they say. please leave that toxic space. embrace your looks and your face, your body. you can transform only through self love and acceptance. loathing yourself only will bring you suffering. you need body positivism and i understand it. i now get it that incel culture is abusing men in this sence.
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 No.497288

>Men are also denigrated for having tattoos. Women refer to tattooed men as rapists/horndogs/idiots.

i haven't witnessed such retardism in a while. i hope they change and become better people. awful.
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 No.497290

i still stand by opinion that women's lookism is widespread and is worldwide, when for men it's still worldwide and widespread but stays on less "popular" levels since demands aren't that high and men's voices about lookism are silenced.

in other words "i don't think your mom knows what low T means" meanwhile "my mom tells me to eat less every time she sees me"

i shouldn't make your problems seem less and powerscale you in general but i just did it. yikes.

please stay safe and leave incel forums and stop watching andrew tate or what his name was. find people who love you.
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 No.497291

>>497284
I have stories about cleaning ladies restrooms.
And having witnessed female roommates, they’re not all as classy they seem.
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 No.497292

>>497286
I’m talking about hairstyles like the man bun or having a ponytail.
Or the buzz cut on one side of the head.

Or how about the broccoli hair cut?
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 No.497293

>>497278
This. I thank you for recognizing the difference between high fructose corn syrup and sugar.

People complain far too much about sugar when we don’t even use any real sugars in our food products at all.

The sugar you buy at the stores in America, is mainly white sugar, which is processed.
The only healthy sugar is brown sugar.
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 No.497294

>>497282
Have you hear about stoicism? The philosophy that is.
Purely redundant stuff.
Irony is, all this talk about trying hard to not give a fuck turns men into giving too many fucks.

It’s like the inverse for “empathy” for women

In fact I would say “stoicism” and “empathy “ are gender-chauvinist ideologies.

Compassion and self-reservation should be the proper principalities
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 No.497295

>>497291

if one is these girls didn't vacuum water from the floor then i'm not listening. and these guys always smelled. like, it was hard to breath in the guest room. if a guy passed by me i could smell it.
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 No.497296

>>497292

i literally don't care. broccoli or not brocolli. NO ONe CARES. only if you have green/red neon hair yes people will notice you. i have neon colored hair and people see me and comment on me. i look like a non binary libtard. it doesn't make me a less woman than who i am. hairstyles is so fucking no existent topic honestly like nobody fucking cares. (unless you're balding)
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 No.497297

>>497281
I’m a man and I think body hair is an unfortunate thing for both for men and women

What’s the point of having it? Why did God give us this?
It itches, it stinks, it spreads germs, easily soils, and look horrible. Worst of all, it doesn’t keep us warm.

If humans were furry, like dogs and cats, that’s one thing. But we have only skin that’s assaulted with an ugly “thin” sheen of useless body hair.

I especially don’t care for facial hair.

Have you ever had a hair get caught in your genitals area? It chafes like hell.

Hair removal surgery should be cheap. All body hair should be transplanted to the head.
Except from the genital area.
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 No.497298

>>497291

witnessing a bloody tampon or seeing blood in the toilet doesn't count. i want to hear "pissing on the floor" stuff or "leaving dishes with food for a week" and "bringing a huge party at 4 am"
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 No.497299

>>497297
i pull out my long long pussy hair out of crotch are as we speak

and yes. i know this itchy feeling. i had bad bad irritations in that zone and scars. i never shaven that place again
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 No.497300

>>497295
Did they bathe? Did they do heavy duty jobs?
Did they do drugs?

These are important factors.

Body odor isn’t always due to lack of showers but rather lack of proper diet.

Also, I think apartments are no good for roommates. Too cramped and smells and stains are easily more trapped in and apartments are notorious for having those occasional dead bodies that nobody knew about until months later.
And they’re decrepit, in need of repairs but the landlord is too greedy/stupid to fix everything.

And as a guy, if I’m inside, I wear light clothing so that I can get ventilation.
And I try to avoid eating greasy food because it messes with my pores.

I seriously think people should consume more fluids than solid food. It may help with body odor and colon cleansing.
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 No.497301

>>497297

you have a very good point! hair now serves for looks and for being weird. instead of lowering prices for surgery o would have opted to accepting your hair and integrity of your body with it, your body as a whole and its "nasty, feral" nature
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 No.497302

>>497300

there were young guys who did a lot of sports. in the beginning they lacked basic hygiene skills but it subsided later. still smelled. we have 2 showers. i don't know their problem. :/ they didn't do drugs, but yes they were quite… uneducated

many guys are dirty and it's considered "normal". men in my family commonly pissed in the sink.

and no nobody died. it's a good shared flat for students and we have cleaning here.
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 No.497303

>>497294

yes they are gendered for sure! i have heard of stoicism but mmleh not my thing. i'm too simple for all that
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 No.497304

>>497300

i rent a room and it's only one good option we found for me to stay
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 No.497305

>>497298
I have seen this in ghettos and trailer parks.
And as for ladies rooms, it’s not just tampons.

I witness blood and fecal stains on the toilet bowl and floor. The tampon waste boxes are overflowing.

>>497301
If you study zoology you’d know that looks are everything for attracting mates.
It’s just that humans think themselves as always special in their behavioral phenomena.

Honestly though, for hygienic purposes I would rather have all body hair except for my head hair and eyelashes removed.

>>497302
> many guys are dirty and it's considered "normal". men in my family commonly pissed in the sink.

Idk if it’s considered normal it’s more that it’s considered an “common” male flaw.
Also where do you live where men piss in the counter sink?

And do you mean “uneducated” as in they didn’t do well in school or that they did grunt work jobs or that they’re dumb?

Because that sounds like something straight out of a movie.

I’m black and black men are stereotyped as being dirty and jocular but we are more about keeping fresh and clean
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 No.497306

>>497302
> and no nobody died. it's a good shared flat for students and we have cleaning here.

All the more reason why college is overpromoted.
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 No.497307

>>497293

ugh?! wait wait wait wait- what do you mean by un/healthy sugars??? honestly it's better to cut off any fast carbs out of your diet. brown, normal and glucose shit included. it doesn't matter if you throw brown sugar or white into your coca cola. it's all the same - glucose and frutose are monosaccharides and are fast sugars. sucrose too. brown sugar isn't really much healthier than normal one.. what
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 No.497308

>>497306

over promoted because nobody died or because guys smelled??
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 No.497309

Those girls in the OP are so cute and my type. I wish they could smother my face with their bottoms and their feet. Especially if they had a long hot summer day
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 No.497310

>>497308
College is overpromoted as a way to cash in on student dorms

At least that’s what I think.
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 No.497311

>>497305

>And do you mean “uneducated” as in they didn’t do well in school or that they did grunt work jobs or that they’re dumb?

dude was fucking rude to me and he was WHITE(and blond)

a black guy there actually listened to me and he was kind. he was messy too but i forgive him everything for being kind and listening to me, and letting me teach him how to clean up properly

im angry for being accused of being racist but i'm ready to hear out
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 No.497312

>>497310

i have no other legal option but living in dorms or renting a room :/ i'm serious, i can't rent an apartment
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 No.497313

>>497305

>If you study zoology you’d know that looks are everything for attracting mates.

i think it's common knowledge and not zoology specific… you want to say that it's better for looks to take out all of your hair? idk i prefer to be what i am already. i'm not going to experience pain for hair removal or smth
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 No.497314

>>497309

the only true based guy in this whole thread. you're a winner, anon. you will get your woman.
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 No.497315

>>497305

im sorry that you had to see and clean up all that! honestly bathrooms in any social space and level are shit. even in EU public female bathrooms can shock with amount of piss and toilet paper. at least we don't have used condoms in mall's WCs. you def powerscaled me in this sense. using public bathroom is a dirty move but you're right. women can be dirty(i never rejected it but yes). i still stand that women are cleaner in general and i think you can agree (as you said it's a common men's flaw)

… ah club bathrooms… great view…. one memory brings so much emotion…

and my family is slavic and some men piss in bathroom sink or they don't close doors to bathroom or whatver. brother is quite messy and dirty too in general. at least he doesn't smell.

and i did study zoology/ecology and finding a mate depends on many more factors than looks but nobody cares
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 No.497316

>>497310

i think dorms are rather symptom of people coming to the city to study and novadays we don't have enough space and rooms and space to fit all them in? honestly i can't agree on one thing - these dorms promote themselves as too cool. they usually have strict rules on cleaning and sound, visitors. they may be very expensive too because of "student" specialization

at least it what happens in my zone and EU
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 No.497317

>>497293
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ultra processed stuff is designed to be more 'addictive', for lack of a better term. I use dark brown sugar and sucralose in recipes since I developed type 2 diabetes, and blackstrap molasses in moderation. I've always been fairly thin and now I can't keep weight on. The main thing I cut from my diet was mountain dew, which was sort of an addiction. Sucralose is made from sugar but it doesn't raise glucose levels. It's in the newish zero sugar products and it's not too bad once you get used to it.
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 No.497318

>>497317

yes ultraprocessed food is made to be addictive and is half digested already, so calories and sugars are more accessible and it lacks vitamins and fiber. it's supposed to be cheap and fast. imitation of food.

very good job on maintaining your diabetes and health! please be careful! i don't know a lot about diabetes. i heard that high fiber helps with blood sugar too. i think you already know it but i will note(you also can tell me stfu) - dark brown sugar is still sugar and affects you the same way normal sugar
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 No.497319

yall fuckers are probably so tired of me lol😭 i'm the least woke libtard person💔💔💔💔 please all stay good and safe
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 No.497332

>>497316
This is yet another reason why college enrollment should be restricted on basis of the most academically competent.
Everyone else can do five hundred hours of community service to be eligible
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 No.497333

>>497257
> we all shall understand poor people and people with mental/physical issues. don't harass people with less discipline, give them good info sources how to eat better. companies hunt on these people and sell weekly dose of sugar in a cup

That means stop excessively patronizing kids.
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 No.497392

>>497318
The biggest problem was cutting carbs (on top of the Dew) and going with high protein and fruits and vegetables. I lost 40lbs too fast and had frequent low blood sugar causing afib and nsvt. Now I eat carbs again but I can't gain weight. The point of brown sugar is when a recipe calls for baking soda it has to have a catalyst. So I don't use it on anything, that's what Splenda is for. Monkfruit on granola is tolerable but that's about as much sweets as I can take.
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 No.497393

>>497392
>a catalyst
reactive ingredient for thermal decomposition and leavening. lol

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