/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

What the man with cookies in the second one is saying makes no sense to me. Why would the black guy be careful?

If you subtract the retarded addition of 'benefits' to the guy on the left (in the original he's a "foreigner" and wouldn't necessarily be eligible for benefits in the US anyway), which is clearly overcompensation on the part of the person who edited it (also, as the least relevant nitpick, the original was clearly set, if loosely, in the UK or Australia, so adding an EBT card and Section 8 voucher is incoherent in addition to the fact that this stuff wouldn't be applicable to many migrant workers), then they're the same image. The individual who edited it, an idpol-brained retard, had to add in extra, irrelevant, allusions to American right-wing talking points because otherwise it would be obvious that they hadn't actually changed much of anything about the message. The original is arguing on class, but the person who edited it clearly did not even understand the message of the original and seems to have thought that it was about race rather than the futility and fraud of racism and xenophobic idpol; and, unsurprisingly, the editor also doesn't understand how meager and drained the American welfare system has been since the '90s for anyone who isn't already rich, and also, equally unsurprisingly, doesn't understand how the meager remaining assistance programs work at all (the single largest racial group that receives government assistance is still poor and unemployed white people, the only connection to race at all is that black people in the US are disproportionately poor and unemployed, which makes sense when you consider that they were targeted with systematic economic discrimination for centuries right up into living memory, even long after the end of the civil war when they were emancipated with zero property or wealth of their own - IE it's about poverty and unemployment, not skin color).

>>498336

>the single largest racial group that receives government assistance is still poor and unemployed white people

Now do it per capita.

>the editor also doesn't understand how meager and drained the American welfare system has been since the '90s

The welfare system is going strong, it just shifted from governament offering services to private business being paid to offer services. Money printing has been the name of the game for welfare since the neoliberal revolution: give people the cash, let them spend in the "free market" so that private enterprise can thrive.

>>498382
The only reason to do it per capita is to skew the results to fit a pre-existing argument, an argument which is irrelevant when I already pointed out in the very post you're replying to that black people are disproportionately poor and unemployed. It's like saying poor, unemployed white people receive a disproportionate amount of benefits compared to white people with land, money, and regular work - the difference is that the poor whites are poorer on average than the non-poor whites, not that one group is white and another isn't. The fact that you immediately resort to this racebrained faggotry after I pointed out that it's nonsense bodes really poorly for your capacity to have a serious conversation with anybody about anything.

>The welfare system is going strong
It isn't anything close to what it was before, and it's meager compared to many states around the world that are far less wealthy. By far the vast majority of the benefits of public handouts in the US go to exemptions for, public programs for, and investments directly in the rich without going through the hands or pockets of the poor. Your talking point about what welfare in the US is now is actually also the talking point from before neoliberalism. The facts don't support it:
https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-spending-on-direct-cash-welfare-over-time/

>>498388

>The only reason to do it per capita is to skew the results to fit a pre-existing argument

Funny, cause using absolute figures does exactly that, makes it seems like Laquisha's subsidizing Clatus meth emporium in West Virginia with her black owned slay queen wig LLC that she runs from her Altima, and not everyone else subsidizing both of them, plus her kids: Darnell, Deshonda and Andrequey.

>It's like saying poor, unemployed white people receive a disproportionate amount of benefits compared to white people with land, money, and regular work

False equivalance. Despite being associated with poverty and manual labor, latinos are around 15% to 18% of beneficiaries of EBT, despite being 20% of the population.

>The fact that you immediately resort to this racebrained faggotry

Race is a major factor in this conversartion, I didn't jump to shit. Pointing out that whitey is the majority of welfare beneficiaries is itself racebrained faggotry since proportionally they are less benefited than what they represent demographically

>>498394
>Race is a major factor in this conversartion,
Theo original meme was about migration, and you, or some retard exactly like you, decided to make it about race.

>Pointing out that whitey is the majority of welfare beneficiaries is itself racebrained faggotry
It wasn't a racial point, retard. It was pointing out the fallacy of the edit in the OP claiming that benefits were somehow exclusive to the person on the left in the picture (who, again, is not even a black American in the original pre-edit version), it wasn't a dunk against you or white people, it was pointing out a basic fact which you, apparently, simply cannot comprehend without immediately taking offense and thinking that it's some kind of callout for the color of your skin.

The largest group of people on poverty welfare benefits in the United States of America are white. The largest group of impoverished, unemployed people in the United States of America is white. This is a class problem. If you can't address it without getting mad at black people or assuming that anyone who points out that the few scraps of welfare which remain are not reserved exclusively for black people (or migrants or whatever tf was intended since the edit makes the meme incoherent) then you are a racebrained retard. Self-reflect and get over your disease.

>>498395

Right, cause immigration and race aren't related at all. He probably made the immigrant dark skinned and the worker white because race is inconsequential to this discussion.

Whining about the image being altered to expand the scope of the discussion, or to make it about something else is itself stupid, people do that all the time, this time they didn't even make a radical change from the source material.

How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>498396
>race is inconsequential to this discussion
Yes, that's the point of the image, dumbass. The migrant is being scapegoated, and the only correlation to skin color is that skin color is used by capitalists today as an easy thing to point to for scapegoating purposes.

>expand the scope
It reduces the scope massively. It goes from being a broadly applicable message about migrants being scapegoated by bosses to divert from class politics to being an America-exclusive neoliberal talking point from 40 years ago about scary black people. You misunderstood the original because you are an idpol-infected dumbass with zero comprehension of class anywhere or politics outside of the United States. It's difficult to imagine being so stupid that you think that lowering a simple, broad message about class to the impaired domain of American idpol garbage is somehow interesting or profound.

>>498397

Denounce the Talmud