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 No.500195

Thread about discussing a possibility of a planned economy in the 21st century, the Soviet experiment and possibly ai integration.
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 No.500196

Overemphasis on "planning" was a dead end and an unjustified reaction to Marx's original critique of wage labor and industrial production.  What really matters is cybernetic feedback in the production process.  All capitalist firms of the 21st century have this figured out now.  It goes by various names: just-in-time production, "lean" production, "pull" production, the Toyota production system, etc.  Today it's simply a matter of co-opting their fine-tuned feedback systems towards democratic society-wide goals rather than private profit extraction.
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 No.500200

I also think that implementing an short of energy value to goods is a way better option than price signalling
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 No.500202

I would prefer a gift economy, as I expect that a gift economy would be both easier to implement and more efficient.  A gift economy also would be less likely to fall into the classic trap of the central authority becoming an antagonistic class relative to producers.

That said, a planned economy would be helpful for getting production situated closer to consumers and for developing an infrastructure based on more local distribution.  The current economic dependency upon giant container ships and cargo jets is suboptimal.  Efficiency really is the name of the game, since production is already far more than sufficient to meet present needs.  The reduction of waste coupled with the elimination of the overproduction of goods would be fairly easy to accomplish in a planned post-capitalist economy, which would meet immediate needs.  If a moneyless planned economy could be built with mechanisms in place for it to be dismantled within a very brief time period (say twenty years), it might make for a practical transition stage to a gift economy.
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 No.500203

>>500202
Idk current level of technological-social development make a gift economy improper.
Also let's not forget that prices play a crucial role in produce-consumption relation.

It is far easier to imagine something like energy credits than purley gift economy

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