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 No.241

<Addition by subtraction

>Most of the shit you spend time on or put into your body isn't helping you.

Sure, it might provide a temporary feeling of pleasure. But chasing short-term, immediate happiness is one of the primary reasons that people fail in life and become so existentially ghey.
>'But capitalism promotes the pursuit of short term pleasure,' you might say.
So fucking what. Are you an automaton? (Rhetorical question. Probably 50% of people here are, in fact, faggot NPCs and would unironically answer yes if they are being honest).
The point remains: your life would start to improve if only you could identify and ruthlessly excise those things which are holding you back.
Here's the litmus test. If it's helping you 'deal with' or 'cope with' your life, then it's holding you in place. Drugs, junk food, video games, porn, spergy media, certain people. Most likely, they provide temporary relief and help you feel ok about being a loser.
I'm not saying that if you give all these up, you're going to become a billionaire. But you're going to start making the marginal improvements which, taken together and compounded over time, lead to a much more satisfying life with far more opportunities and cool experiences. You'll be able to become someone who other people are capable of feeling respect for, who can make a positive impact directly in the lives of people around them (instead of larping as a revolutionary online like a fag).
>Inb4: 'waaaah, no we have to end capitalism and then I'll be able to get my shit together and have a better life waaaah.'
Retard faggot uyghur. How the fuck are you going to get rid of porkie and the capitalist system, something you really have no control over, but can't even get rid of just some of your own shit habits, addictions, and cope behaviors? This is exactly what I mean by the term 'existential faggot.'
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 No.242

>>241
The retarded thread on Ukraine is a good example of something that is existentially ghey. It has no effect on the actual conflict or wider world at all, and instead serves to make various losers feel moral or smart while living in immanence. Imagine if they had just spent that time learning a language, exercising, gaining some other skill, or doing almost anything else. Nothing would have changed in Ukraine/Russia, but the fags arguing about it would have instead improved their lives in some marginal way.
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 No.243

>>241
>capitalism promotes the pursuit of short term pleasure
Yes, as long as the system does this, people will be degraded by the system.
You are huffing pure ideology if you think your appeals to personal responsibility can override systemic shit.

You are trying to find individual solutions to collective problems.
If you want people to have better pursuits, you need to change the system so that it promotes those.

>to get rid of porkie and the capitalist system, something you really have no control over

It's possible to change economic systems, if you look at history, that happens alot.
Individually people have no control, but collectively they do have the power to change the economic structures.
You are making the mistake of ignoring the societal level.

In class societies, the lower classes tend to get degraded, because ruling classes usually are very unexceptional and mediocre people, and the only way for them to be better than the rest is to make everybody else worse. In capitalism there is a lot of money to be made from that degrading stuff, so even if your individual motivation could work and all the people started to self improve, the system would start to loose profits and react to it and increase the intensity of degrading people.

But class-societies also kill the motivation for self-improvement. If you invest all that time and energy into leveling your self up, it's still the capitalists that reap most of the rewards, because they get better workers. People simply don't invest in self-improvement because they don't get enough returns.

Your appeals would work in a socialist society that has progressed to the stage where people really are no longer exploited and society really is classless. In the current society however, i think you can't motivate people to improve them selves unless that is the path to systemic change, if you say the economic system can't be changed, you are asking people to make an investment without any hope of returns.
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 No.244

>>243
Poast gf
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 No.247

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>>243
>It's possible to change economic systems, if you look at history, that happens alot.
>Individually people have no control, but collectively they do have the power to change the economic structures.
>You are making the mistake of ignoring the societal level.
>In class societies, the lower classes tend to get degraded, because ruling classes usually are very unexceptional and mediocre people, and the only way for them to be better than the rest is to make everybody else worse. In capitalism there is a lot of money to be made from that degrading stuff, so even if your individual motivation could work and all the people started to self improve, the system would start to loose profits and react to it and increase the intensity of degrading people.

You are such an autistic faggot

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