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 No.72

Does free will and determinism actually hold any solid bearing against Marxism? i've been in conversations where Marxism was labelled determinist and that it doesn't recognize free will. How true is this?
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 No.73

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Marxism is an analytical political theory that rest upon the foundation of history as it's engine and has nothing to do with the question of free will. Marx explicitly states that it is the job of the prolotarate to rise up and over take the bourgeoisie as a political act of their own fruition. The question obviously never crossed Marx's mind to my understanding. At least not in his major works.

Now to the question itself. Free will is much like solipsism. I can't really tell and so there for it doesn't really matter to me and I go about my day anyways. I do, however, tend to lean towards hard determinism as being the driving philosophical background underlying the universe giving the nature of entropy and cause and effect.
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 No.74

Free will is a completely meaningless term, something Christians cling onto in order to justify their heaven/hell crap.
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 No.75

Free will is used to justify heaven and hell.
Heaven and hell are used to justify church power.
Souls don't exist, can you even define free will?

Determinism BTFOs naive religion and spirituality.
It goes hand in hand with materialism absolutely.
If you are ignorant of how psychological conditioning works, or how material conditions dictate your range of possibilities and psychological states, keep coping.
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 No.76

They have nothing to do with each other. Whoever told you that Marxism was determinist was either clueless or trolling.
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 No.77

>>76
I mean I wouldn't say they have "nothing" to do with each other. Basically all of philosophy is influenced by the Greeks
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 No.78

>>76
why wouldn't Marxism reject "free will" if it's materialist?
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 No.79

>>78
Because the proposition of wether or not free will exists is irrelevant. As far as we can tell history is in our hands and that's all that matters.
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 No.80

>>79
Before you can decide free will vs determinism.
You have to answer the question of "free from what ?" and "determined by what ?".

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