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How bad is Spotify?

It's a bourgeoise vice, but I really like it. I hate having to search all over the web to pirate albums, organize those albums in my desktop, and transfer transfer both to my phone and laptop from my desktop. Spotify just makes the process so much easier. I can listen from any device I want. I want to add some songs to my playlist? I search it up and add it in a matter of seconds. I want to share music? I copy a link and send it over in seconds. Spotify has 99% of the music I listen to and I don't even listen to mainstream stuff.

Should I really make the effort to switch back to pirating? Should I stop prioritizing comfort over data security? What does /tech/ think?


Well it's obviously a big fucking botnet like all proprietary mobile apps. Also they're miserable to artists.


But should I really care if I'm in a music botnet? I mean, the only data they can get is what I listen to—why should I care about that?



Well torrenting is retarded easy, I dunno why you'd ever stop.


https://newpipe.net/ newpipe is a free (of charge, but also free) android app that lets you use youtube with no ads, and you can have audio in the background or in a popup window. newpipe has been the reason not to use spotify for me, for so long


I never switched away from pirating. My digital music collection has been growing for 15 years and while probably 90% of it is available on Spotify I wouldn't trade it away for anything.

What about the rare radio freestyles I downloaded on underground rap forums ~2006?
What about the rare compilations and B-sides?
What about all the fanmade video game remixes from OCRemix?
What about the hundreds of datpiff mixtapes?
What about fanmade remasters that eclipse the botched commercial release (e.g. Frances the Mute)?
What about songs that get region-locked or that Spotify loses the rights to or may lose the right to in the future?
What if I want the ability to play the music on any device, at any time, without the device ever connecting to the internet?

If you have to ask why piracy is better then you're obviously already at home in the botnet. You yourself say it's convenient and has everything you need, so what's the problem?


Not when I don't have a dependable torrent site and I have to scout a million sites just to listen to music.




I had an app like that on my phone but I deleted it because I'm trying to make my phone as "dumb" as possible.

Also youtube quality is crap.

1% of the music I like isn't on spotify but I pirate those and put in on my phone. Easier than doing it for every single album that I listen to.


I just "google" whatever I need and find it immediately lol, mostly lossless even.


Maybe it's different now. I got on Spotify in 2016. Back then, it was a real pain in the ass to pirate everything. Perhaps it's easier now. If it is, maybe I'll switch back.


I got a huge music collection, but I've been using Spotify because most devices today are so storage averse that it became a pain carrying even 1/3rd of my ENORMOUS library around.

I really wish there was a 1TB music player with bluetooth and some internet connectivity

use Soulseek dummy


SD cards?


Mine's going strong after 4 years.

plus an SD card like >>8176 says. If you really need 1TB you're gonna have to cough up another 200 clams for the storage. No way around that though.


Spotify is great for discovering new music from it's playlists and shit.
I still pirate music after finding stuff from it.

Sucks there's not way to download stuff from it though. I don't want to download from deezer or youtube.


Sounds like you're too far gone, stick to goyify.




just use soulseek (nicotine+) to download music


join a private tracker, you can get the best version of any album you want and people there know how to rip music from streaming services. supplement with soulseek or just use soulseek alone if you're not picky about quality control
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There is though. I found this app on F-Droid called SpotiFlyer that literally does that. I'm not a tech expert, but I trust F-Droid apps for privacy and it only wants permission to access storage do download the file, but you can see that on their F-droid page.


Use Any Video Converter (desktop app) or Free Online Video Convdrter website to download your music


I use SpotiFlyer to download any playlist on Spotify.


I actually just bought an old mp3 player to subvert this pos.


There's a old-school mp3 player launching soon that has the trifecta of open source firmware, software and hardware.


Maybe check that out, could be nice, or just in case your current mp3 player breaks.


Holy shit based.


I like everything about this except that shitty fucking disc control. Why in god's name would you want to replicate that cancer when you have the ability to design something however you want?


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It's very open source, so anybody with the necessary skills could put different inputs on it.

I don't have experience with that type of input scheme, but it seems to be a scroll wheel when you slide your finger over it in a circular motion, a directional-pad if you press the top/bottom or sides. And the middle bit is an ok/menue button. That seems usable enough for an mp3 player.

Do you have a particular input scheme in mind that's better ?

My hunch is that a track-point/keyboard-nob might make for a nice navigation input.


i have a cracked apk on my phone so its is all free and without ads.


tbh i only pay for hardware and a vpn, everything else is free. i dont see why you would genuinely want to pay for music, or any media for that matter. I buy a top of the line server from 10 years ago for 300 and then buy used 10 tb hard drives i stress test and send back when they fail. I then use the ones that are fine to store torrented media I stream through jellyfin.

Torrenting is stupid easy, and I never get caught because im not stupid and use a vpn.

I will say, I do pay for resold iptv 2 years at a time but that is honestly still way cheaper. I can't win every battle, but I will rebel against the private oligopoly as much as possible, even if its in vain.


>i dont see why you would genuinely want to pay for music
Sure, a lot of contemporary music was ruined by corporate lowest common denominator design. It's not worth paying for that, and it's probably not worth listening to it either.

Parts of the music market will disappear. Machine learning software will likely generate good enough sound for generic background music. It will get condensed into a cheap box similarly to other low cost commodity electronic goods. Today it takes a pricey workstation computer to do this, tomorrow it will be a tiny chip costing a thousand times less.

If you want good music you might want to pay as a means to influence what kind of music gets made to get more small scale good quality independent stuff. File-sharing solves the distribution part, it brings down the cost to near zero, which is important for small time independents, who can't roll out sales infrastructure. The part that is still missing is organizing production.

Big corporate is trying to monetize access, which is a very negative strategy that leads to a lot of hostility. First they fence off the music to keep people out and then they take on the role of gate keepers, who need to be bribed to let people through. It's very reminiscent of medieval market places where producers, merchants and customers alike had to pay a toll to the local baron to enter the market-place.

If we could find a way to monetize direction of sound, you'd pay to influence what kind of music your favorite musician, band, orchestra, etc composes and produces next. The insanity of access-control schemes would evaporate. And it would be a positive strategy, that doesn't require all that hostility and keeping people out.


My only issue with torrenting music is that underground music with less than 100,kmlisteners is impossible Tom actually listen to on anything other than Spotify now a days.

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