>>9314>honestly who cares if ur not gonna do a crime>>9314well he can't admit to planning one nowadays can he?
it's never been about crime
Knowledge is power, if corporations or other organisations know more about you as you know about them, they have an knowledge advantage over you that lets them politically disenfranchise you. Class societies have a class war going , and the surveillance stuff is them following the doctrine of "know your enemy". Even if you are just a rightist social democrat that wants bourgeois democracy with welfare capitalism, you have to insist on completely removing the state and corporations from personal devices and home networks, or you' won't even be able to have bourgeois democracy.
Even if the proletariat has robust control over the state you would still make personal devices off limits, people store their personal lives in these things and it's almost like violating bodily autonomy if you give powerful organisations access to personal devices. You wouldn't want to be frisked by the police in the offline world even if you have nothing to hide, so it's not ok to do that in the online world.
It's also really stupid for strategical considerations, the NSA or big tech is not securing the access they have to your machines, so even if you are fine with making people corporate serfs without political rights, you would still hand them over to basically moderately tech-able organisations that can buy cyber-break-in tools from the grey market. Basically the backdoors to your computer and communications will become available to your local mafia, eventually, because big organisations leak what ever trick they develop.
For a strong socialist society the reasons are different, people cannot be politically disenfranchised even if you backdoor devices. But it would still compromise your technology and infrastructure. You have no reason to believe that a socialist society would be better at securing "the other end of the backdoor". It makes your society vulnerable to coordination-collapse-attacks. An example of this type of attack was the Soviet block dissolution. The entire economic system relied on the central planning buro for economic coordination and once the neo-liberal coup was able to break it the entire system collapsed. Never build fragile systems like that ! The more robust soviet planning system, they should have build, would have backup coordination layers for the economy. The backup system needs to have an irresistible tendency to regenerate a new central planning buro within a short time after a coup destroys the original one.
A system has to reproduce it's existence and it has the regenerate bits if they get destroyed.
I have a hunch that a lot of cyberwar stuff will be in our future and societies that do not have these backup layers will not make it through. Many societies will choose to use legal and police terror to deter attacks instead of improving the robustness of their systems, that will make them mimic the error of the late soviet union and suffer the same fate. Capitalist societies might have it worse because the big bourgeoisie now have aristocratic desires and activel tries to suppress things that make the system resilient, because they see that as competition.