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 No.8356

Matrix/Element is a fucking joke. Do I seriously need to not delete cookies to have access to encrypted DMs that were sent when I was offline? This completely defeats the purpose of using it via tor.

Its development has been slow and lousy but this issue is the one that takes the cake.
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 No.8357

Yeah but its still in the top tier of options unfortunately
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 No.8358

What >>8357 said. Honestly as an end user it's "good", it's awful when you're trying to host and manage an instance.
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 No.8359

Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, matrix and element are two different things, buddy.
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 No.8362

>>8359
One is just the official client for the protocol developed by the exact same people.
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 No.8364

>Do I seriously need to not delete cookies to have access to encrypted DMs that were sent when I was offline?
End to end encryption stores keys on the client side. Your browser wiped them. There isn't really a secure way to avoid it unless you export your keys, which I think they actually recommend and try and get you to do that when you first log in.
Use Tor, not Tor Browser.
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 No.8370

>>8356
how the fuck do you want them to auth you ? magically ?
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 No.8373

>>8370
post a stamp of your butthole
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 No.8374

>>8356
Don't use it from the browser, friend. Install a real client. The official one is probably the most featureful but I'm also looking at something like matrix-commander
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 No.8376

>>8356
Just use the desktop client.
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 No.8403

>>8364
You do that with the Export/Import E2E keys function, right?
I must be doing something wrong because any DM sent to me when I was offline isn't getting decrypted.
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 No.9279

Should I use my personal email when signing up for matrix chat?
How secure is it?
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 No.9284

>>9279
it depends on what you're using the matrix account for. If you want them to be linked, then use your personal email. Otherwise, get a new email.
Simple flow chart to use when deciding what emails and information to use with everything, i guess. FWIW I recc using a different email for everything, unless you have a strong need to tie together a persona like for work, or between social media accounts.
>>8403
I think that's just how it is. It's shit if you log out. (actually some anon said there's a way to preserve sessions while opening a new one?) Maybe XMPP+OMEMO is better???
basically tho don't ever log out, and use the element client not web client
i havent tried any other than element, like nheko and others
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 No.9285

>>9284
Thanks for your reply. Any advice on secure email providers? I remember reading that the Russian one is good for privacy.
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 No.9288

>>9285
>secure
oops!

Secure from who? Hackers? Surveillance capitalism? The NSA? Your boyfriend? Bears?
Email in general is shit, avoid where you can, but I know you can't always.
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 No.9292

>>9288
>Hackers? Surveillance capitalism? The NSA?
I meant from these lot. I know it'll never be completely secure, but is there anything better than Gmail?
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 No.9323

>>9285
>>9292
i used to use cock.li but they stopped letting you make new ones because supposedly glowies were using their shit for anonymous emails or something
honestly i suspect the exact opposite is what's happened, but whatever

basically anything that lets me register an email with no identifying data over tor is all i want. There's mail2tor or something, and there's DNMX which i guess advertizes scam sites but just don't click on shit basically.

Always assume your email provider sees everything, because they can. If you dont want them to see contents, encrypt it. If you dont want them to know who you are, tor is good enough for me but maybe just consider hosting your own email server at that point, or at least using a mail server on your computer rather than webmail just so you can avoid javascript… if that's not enough, i dont know i mean there's always contrived ways to increase security like if you're not wanting to be found literally (literally) by nsa investigations or very motivated hackers rather than just random bullshit, this might not be enough, but for the non-hyperterrorist basically that should work, just any email u can register over tor anonymously and for free, and then assume they read ur emails or sell the contents and then just don't use email for important shit unless ur using pgp

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